#pedojacketing mention

[sparkling-pink-lemonade]

Tell me you don't support mental health without telling me you don't support mental health.

Tw: anti bullshit, pedojacketing

Messages sorted by newest first, sorry!

Also there's the blatant misinterpreting of "fantasizing = wanting it to do that thing". Fantasizing just means imagining a scenerio. I'm talking about slasher films existing due to a fanasized depiction of serial killings, and teens who make fan art of Jeff the Killer with their self insert. Every single mafia AU where the citizen falls in love with the mob boss. Every house party scene where the protagonist first tries hard drugs, or gets irresponsibly black out drunk and has a wild night.

Anyways, I once talked with my licensed psychologist about paraphilic disorders, she asked me what I thought the treatment for those illnesses are. And she said that the official treatment for it was talking about it with a support system, and desensitization through creating and indulging in writing and art. So that the thoughts become less distressing and less intense.

Imagining something =/= wanting it.

Edit: if you saw OP's username where I forgot to block it out, no you didn't

[sitten1115]

i hate when people i’ve been following for ages are putting stuff from radfems on my dash and the specific posts are vague enough to seem harmless if you don’t know the context. So I can’t tell if the person I follow is normal about trans men or not (each time i check the op they’re not normal about them)

[autolenaphilia]

This is a perfect example of why vagueposting can be used to strawman and "make up a guy to get mad at".

Like genuinely who is saying this? Is this a a strawman of transfems pointing out the hot allostatic load problem, of transfems disproportionately face callouts and ostracization via pedojacketing, sometimes entirely made-up or for objectively harmless things, like shipping two fictional characters who are related, while men get away scot-free for actual abuse ? Is it a strawman of a popular post by a transfem child abuse survivor reflecting on how her trauma shaped her? (she isn't named because she got harassment strawmanning her in the exact same way the screenshotted post probably is doing, and people are directing harassment towards her in the notes).

But who knows, that is in the nature of vagueposting.

Like if this is vagueing about any of the transfems making a stand against callout culture, or that specific post by a survivor i mentioned, it is definitely a strawman, but you have no way of knowing that. It's a vaguepost, so there are no examples of the things OP is complaining about.

It's just vagueness, about how creepy transfems are making pedophilia part of being transfem. And, well, to quote porpentine, "Be extremely critical about what people say about trans people, especially things said in vagueness."

[beemovieerotica]

Mr beemovieerotica sir I need you to know that when I read the post regarding the person who tried to pedojacket you over you not gregory berryconing with them hard enough and I got to the part where it mentioned your name starting with a K I got such a strong recoil "Beemovieerotica doesn't start with a K what the hell" because I mildly forgot that BEEMOVIEEROTICA is not your IRL name

LMAOOOO also i appreciate the use of "gregory berryconing" here because it perfectly describes what was going on. like i love fanworks i love playing in other people's sandboxes but if something has never been written (???) and only exists as abstract concepts(???) HOW are we all supposed to engage with it?? do i need to obtain psychic powers ???? the whole situation was a mess

[communist-ojou-sama]

a trans girl genuinely got harassed into suicide for watching Made in Abyss? 😰

Lots of trans women have been harassed into suicide after being pedojacketed and "liking 'loli' anime", a range of things so broad as to include mentioning liking Made in Abyss, when the target is a trans woman anyway, is a classic in the genre of assembling "evidence" for pedojacketing a trans woman

[txttletale]

roadhogsbigbelly is doubling down. genuinely incredible (yes i am aware how deeply funny it is to start a serious post with that sentence. it is my one allotment of levity)

oh okay you just assumed that "loliporn" was involved and something that i deserved to be associated with defending and accused of making "integral to the queer identity" because of stuff that the OP (who i cannot stress enough i never followed or talked to or knew in any fucking way!) did that got called out months after i made my addition?

the rest of his post is just a very lengthy way of saying "umm if you didn't want to be called a pedophile because you were mean about stardew valley maybe you should be more careful about how you reblog from". yeah buddy im sure you apply that standard to yourself too huh. im sure you pull out your Bad Person detector every time you reblog a fucking post and beam OP with it. you literally screenshot my post about how as a trans women i get this standard uniquely applied to me and went "um its a good standard though. answer for the actions of every fucking person youve ever reblogged a post by".

and all this whole fucking schtick where he's like "ummmm im not calling you a pedophile :) i just assumed you thought 'loliporn was integral to the queer identity' based on source: i made it up and am going out of my way to repeatedly say you're agreeing with pedophiles and not being wary enough about pedophiles and that 99% of people who make the type of post im accusing you of making are pedophiles" is so fucking pathetic and if you fall for it you are a blatant transmisogynist like come the fuck on man.

i am no longer having a nice time on the computer, i am pretty fucking angry. and all this because he "doesnt have much skin in the game" but he doesn't like my stardew valley takes! yeah man real proportionate response.

not to mention the aside he makes to say 'wah wah someone told me to kill myself' amiguito do you have any fucking idea what my inbox has looked like since this entire transmisogynistic harassment campaign began a week ago? i delete those asks because i'm not into flaunting every piece of online abuse i get to make myself look like the victim in computer arguments but it has been constant and graphic! breaking news, women are people too, some of the most cutting-edge research suggests they might even have feelings!

"oh i censored her identity i dont know how she even found it" oh okay so you were anonymously pedojacketing me to your thousands of followers while vaguing about a post i made that had thousands of notes and using the same screenshot that an uncensored version of was passed around with thousands of notes as part of a transmisogynistic harassment campaign last fucking week?

how could anyone possibly have guessed it was me! it's a real mystery man it was basically witness protection. "oh but i didn't know, i didn't know she was trans", maybe he'll also say he didn't know about the harassment campaign, hey fucker, maybe apply some of the constant scrutiny you're reserving for women who are mean about farming game and apply it to yourself and consider looking into these things before baselessly making pedo accusations against someone!

this transmisogynistic crybully shit is absolutely fucking insufferable and i am absolutely sick of it and anyone who buys into it. i'm done assuming good faith or ignorance. i am not going to be a good placid little bullying target and acquiesce to this vile shit. it's truly fucking incredible that a tme guy can be found out as an actual pedophile and guys like mr. belly can immediately jump into action to use this as an opportunity to denounce a trans woman who had one interaction with him ever that consisted of five minutes spent typing an addition to a post and hitting ''reblog''. & if you don't find that sickening then straight up you are not safe for trans women to be around.

[wolfertinger]

"I’d like for this to be published anonymously, please

I’ve submitted several things and asks to this blog before. Before sending, I’d like to clarify: I am a transsexual transfeminine person. I transitioned early in my childhood. I am also intersex, of which my variants are no one’s business. However: I am visibly transfeminine. I will always visibly be transfeminine. So, no. No one can pull the transmisogyny card on me—especially not Wis. Secondly, I am a multiracial person of color. And finally, I am a rape survivor.

I will start by saying, yes. I think some asks here have lost the plot. I know that is the point of this blog, as opposed to the other one (bunnyhazedays I believe you mentioned? Feel free to @ it with the url when posting). I do believe some of them have fallen into transmisogynistic beliefs, and comments. More often than not, those have been acknowledged by the mod when they happened.

However

Wis’ point that this is essentially purely a harassment campaign, and purely transmisogyny, and purely racism is astonishing. That couldn’t be further from the truth, and acting like it is the truth is either (a) delusional, in which she genuinely believes herself, or (b) an outright lie, if not both. Many of these comments are lies, for example, including her ones pertaining to Majora and Mari. Every thing Wis has said in her defense has been completely blown out of proportion.

Not only did Luluyams never even meet Majora in person, Majora is confirmed to NOT be a trans woman.

Now, onto her point on her “opps harassing [her]” to this point—What level of harassment makes it okay for Wis to publicly prod a rape victim? To what extent is any of that okay? Mari is a self-admitted rapist, on multiple occasions, including to Wis herself. This is not a gray scenario. Mari is a rapist. She raped Sawyer while under the influence, and while they were unconscious. That is not “unconsensual sex.” “Unconsensual sex” is rape. Weed does not make you rape someone. Yes, it is true that trans women and transfeminine people are falsely accused of rape and sexual abuse. But Sawyer has verifiable proof they’ve shown to the public, while all the rest of you only have ‘he-said; she-said’ accounts. Then, you continue to make further accusations against Sawyer. Not only do you turn the tables on them out of pure spite, rather than a care for a rape victim, but you then: (1) accuse them of age faking, (2) accuse them of going after freshly 18 year olds, (3) accuse their boyfriend of creating the content that is associated with the people *you* and *your boyfriend* interact with, (4) claim that Sawyer is alleging *you* and *Salem* are pedophiles/zoophiles/etc…. All of which are verifiably false. It would take a lot of searching, but if you go through this blog (and the other) you will find mounds of evidence for the contrary.

Some other points:

Parts of this post I seriously do not understand whatsoever. I do not know what she means by “…both of the abusers that are using my transphobia during their whole process to whitewash their image as righteous warriors and allies of Trans women…” Her usage of whitewashing here makes no sense, outside of claiming you’re all trying to sanctify yourselves through her transphobic language…? I don’t know. But a white woman using “whitewash” in any context other than what it is, regarding racism and colorism, is odd. That isn’t to mention her claim that she has been “pedojacketed and called… every transmisoginstic [sic] stereotype under the Sun” is false. I agree that some people here have been transmisogynistic to her. And they *have* been called on their BS, more often than not (I don’t see every post here, given I have a life—but from what I have seen, they tend to be corrected); however, no one has pedojacketed her. In fact, people have went out of their way to clarify they find neither her nor Salem to be pedophiles (or zoophiles for that matter)—only that they (plural) surround themselves with these people.

And finally, Wis always continues to mention “perfect victims” (and imply the concept of imperfect victims). No one here has said they, neither her nor Salem, need to be perfect. People here, Sawyer included, have said they want both of them to get better, and to actually work on themselves as opposed to writing rage-fueled tangents that are filled to the brim with logical fallacies, lies, guilt tripping, and manipulative tactics. They want them—primarily Wis—to stop being racist. They want them, *both* of them, to stop calling people transmisogynistic (e.g.: Wis calling someone a tranny) and homophobic (e.g.: Salem referring to the entirety of those who oppose him and wish to discuss him faggots) slurs. They want them, *both* of them, to stop lying.

This also brings into light how they want *Sawyer* to be a perfect victim as well, but that is neither here nor there. While, objectively, Sawyer is “in the right” here, they also have not been perfect. That is to say no one on either side is perfect. No one is expecting either to be perfect but Wis and Salem for Sawyer, apparently. The same goes for Luluyams, but I don’t want them to be the forefront of my comments, as they have publicly stated they no longer wish to be involved (and for that matter, I apologize mentioning you if this bothers you.)

Yes, the unrelated harassment that has been directed to Salem for years has been unaccounted for. Yes, he has been undeniably scrutinized and put under pressure. But he can help that. He refuses to try and change, however. He continues to vague, and guilt trip, and build this public image where he idolizes himself and places him as the pinnacle of representation and diversity and alleges to cater to others all the while satisfying his own need for approval. Yet, simultaneously, he self-flagellates and lashes out at others. Wis, meanwhile, I have personally never seen in the public eye until Salem. I’m sure this has been stressful on her as well, but she continues to do this to herself by allowing herself to act on her impulse to defend Salem and herself. I do not believe this will be her final post, nor do I believe it will be Salem’s.

To Salem and Wis: Please try to gain a little bit of introspection. Just some. And this does not include public self-flagellation or threats. Truly, genuinely try to look inside and try to see your faults.

To Sawyer: I’m sorry this has been dragged on for you for so long. I hope you’ll find some peace soon.

To the mod: Thank you for running this blog and spreading awareness as much as you can. I’ve been in circles Salem has been in for years, and seeing him fall back into his patterns more over time has been saddening, even if I was never necessarily a fan.

If I have any further additions, I’ll send another ask. Thank you for tolerating this obscenely long message."

[rambling-crerchur]

its very clear to me that patricia wants to wield her large parasocially hyperdefensive audience against people she doesnt like while also trying to portray herself as an innocent victim who can do no wrong and is incapable of hurting others. its fucking weak shit imo. girl, if youre gonna be a bitch (pun intended), just be a fucking bitch!

She already wields it as such. I can only imagine what the inboxes of people she has actually mentioned on her blog look like. I already get a decent amount of hatemail, and she's never brought me up. She knows what her community does, so she'll just keep framing everyone who critiques her as a stalker and occasionally namedrop someone and let her fans do the rest. The reason she doesnt point her fans towards people as openly as someone like Lily is because she fully leans into that "smol bean innocent mentally ill transfem getting harrassed and pedojacketed by nazis and terfs" angle, whereas someone like Lily is more agressive. To further continue the Lily comparison, I think the reason Patricia doesnt use her community like Lily does is because she actually has foresight, and knows it looks bad, so she's just sneakier about it. But to loop back to the original point, Patricia doesnt only want to wield her audience like this, she already does, just in a way that has plausible deniability.

[sparkling-pink-lemonade]

Got an ignorant hate comment. Felt it deserved it's own post. It's a long one, and technically isn't doing anything productive as I blocked the person. I just like yelling into the void. Mind the tags.

1) You're funny. I'm agnostic, and wasn't even raised christian. It's like an atheist saying "Oh my god" (this can't be real/that's ridiculous) or "God save me" (I'm doomed). "My brother in Christ", what would normally be a term of endearment and familiarity in a christian setting becomes very condescending and 'holier than thou' if said to any non christian (not just jews). Because of that, outside of a christian setting, it's now a term of sarcasm and mockery to point out someone's stupidity and ignorance. So the fact you jumped into a defensive standpoint, calling someone you know nothing about antisemitic over a post that wasn't even directed at you, tells me a lot more about your insecurities.

2) Yes, you're right! It is perfectly reasonable to not WANT people with an involuntary attraction to real life children to INTERACT with your work. But let me lay out a few things. Stop using that word, it does not mean what you think it means. Being attracted to fictional characters depicted as kids in a form of media that is (at least in a non indie setting) designed, and written by a team of adults, fudging up the looks and behaviors of their characters compared to reality to be more appealing to a wide demographic, is not pedophilia. Pedophilia is a mental disorder, where an attraction to children who can't consent is causing direct harm to yourself or those around you in your day to day life. This usually presents itself as crippling distress for the person with the disorder due to their intrusive thoughts, and fear of losing your friends and family should they find out about your disorder. By calling an attraction to fictional character depicted as children "pedophilia" you are doing what's called pedojacketing. Which is a false accusation against someone in attempt to rally others by appealing to their disgust to ruin the life of another person. It causes major harm by both trivializing a serious and often debilitating mental illness into a "voluntary perversion", while also trivializing the seriousness of child predator allegations by equating the sexual abuse of real, breathing children, to that of fictional story that never happened. Most predators aren't even pedophiles, they are attracted to the power imbalance and control, not the kid itself. But that's not what proship is, it's an ideology that people should be allowed to have their own space to enjoy whatever fiction they want without harassment or censorship. And guess what, that doesn't mean we aren't entitled to your space. If our ideology makes you uncomfortable, it's your right to block us and keep us from interacting with your art.

But get this, consuming and interacting are two completely different things. Consuming means you've looked at a piece of art, you watched a video, read a piece of literature, or played a video game. The moment you post something to the public, and not somewhere with restricted access, you forfeit all right to decide who can consume your media. AO3 is a public website, even if you choose the lovely option of only showing your work to people who are logged in (which anyone can get an account), you can't then decide who is allowed to view your work. When you post media publicly, it is impossible to discern every single person who has consumed your work. At best a site may have a "views" counter, or in AO3's case, hits, but it will always remain anonymous. As such, if you don't like the idea of a proshipper consuming your work, congrats, you will never have to know.

Interacting however means that you've consumed a piece of media, and are now making a public display about your consumption where the creator can see it, that individualizes them from the rest of the crowd. A comment, a post, if the media has a non-anonymous "like" function, or non-anonymous subscription/follow function. Most people are sane, and don't go out of their way to do background checks on every single person that interacted with their work. But if it comes to your attention that someone who makes your uncomfortable is interacting with your work where you can see it, then you have the tools to make it so you'll never be able to see or hear from them again. They will still be able to consume your public work, but now you've curated your personal experience.

But if you're so paranoid and disgusted by the idea that someone you find icky or gross might be able to consume your content without your consent, then you have to take responsibility for your own experiencing it and revoke your consent from the wider public by removing your content from a public platform.

This person was deluding themself into believing that consumption was the same thing as interaction and that the existence of a dni means it was the public's responsibility to regulate their online experience for them, and was getting upset at the realization that they can't regulate a public space the same way as a private one, and that people they don't like will be able to see their public work even if they will never know about it.

[psudopod]

order of events to get it straight:

you didn’t read the /j so you made a statement.

i said you peed the pool

apparently you kept dropping hints that i still can’t find but when you made your boundaries clear i stopped

HOWEVER- you started mentioning my body and i asked you to stop and you continued for a bit

i called you a pedophile, (i should have said predator) because you apparently found joy in this by posting “child bullied”

i respect you’re boundaries but you can’t make the excuse i didn’t respect yours so you can continue disrespecting mine.

I won't disrespect yours. I'll admit, going thru the logs, I did imply, when I broke down why I won't engage with your "joke," that you were more of a predator than I actually believe you are. Probably. I am sorry for continuing on about your body, I'm pretty sure I was writing one reply when your reply about not "sexualisming" you was sent, so I didn't see it. Tumblr doesn't refresh comment threads like that. I am sorry for implying you were enjoying it in that way despite being 95% sure you are the dipshit kid you act like.

Not gonna lie, I have met people like that online. I was trying to give you fair warning from things I've seen in my geezer wisdom. I have seen countless people who make boundary violating comments and then try to pass them off as "jokes," in order to re-frame the conversation to make the victim into a "party pooper." I don't care if you think you were joking. It doesn't matter. Joke sexual harassment is called sexual harassment. Especially when it continues after being called out. It is a loser's game to try to distinguish.

The child bullied meme was hilarious. I am not sorry for that. You're a child throwing a tantrum because you don't want to hear the word "no." You resorted to pedojacketing me for telling you off, followed by libelously trying to fucking blackmail me by lying on a public post claiming you had my nudes.

You tried to fucking sextort me because I told you to back off about my body. You are a creep just for that. 100%

[shityaoi]

pro-weird kink mention ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

saw a clip from the newest game changer episode where the audience member talks about being abdl and i know the bar is in hell but its so refreshing to remember that the general public consciousness of the fetish is no longer wild pedojacketing and is instead "huh that's weird. neat"

like none of the reaction Felt judgemental or harsh it was just general humorous bewilderment which is. so nice to see compared to the alternative that i'm used to seeing lmao

[thenixkat]

[id: A screenshot of a google screenshot sent through a PM from @canonqueers

cannonqueers

This is a blog dedicated to LGBTQ characters in media! 🏳️‍🌈

Not following each other

Screenshot inside screenshot is of a Google AI Overview on the question 'how can aromantic people date'

/end id]

[id: Text between two users in a PM

@canonqueers: since u asked for a screenshot (this doesn’t mention anything about romantic attraction)

thenixkat: HAHAHAAH not you using AI overveiw like that's any fucking kind of accurate that's fucking hilarious. hahahahah oh god that made my day. that's so fucking funny

@canonqueers: i hate AI as much as the next guy but where do u think they get those definitions from 💀 it’s taken from multiple sources across the net

/end id]

Not the ai overview that's fucking hilarious. But this dingus sealion thinks I should waste my breath trying to educate them.

edit: We got into some pedojacketing from them. Plus confirmation of their aphobia and belief that aroaces can't be in relationships b/c aroace people dont feel attraction. And that it would be wrong for aroace people to date people they arent romantically/sexually attracted to. Which is yikes.

also they legit don't verify that what folks submit to their blog is accurate, they just go by whatever notes the submitter sends and a quick ai overview.

[rubbership]

oh yeah and that stupid fucking stridercest roleplayer that called me out for rping selfcest also tried to essentially pedojacket me at one point because he started shipping his hal and my jake. and then eventually he actually READ my pages and stats and he was like WAIT JAKES 38!? and i was like what? yeah i thought you knew that. and he was like dude we cannot ship jakehal hal is literally 18. and i was like you wanted to ship jakehal? jake isn't shippable. he's on a pretty locked storyline, he's legally married to jane, in a relationship with aranea and married to a halluc9ination of his ex eboyfriend from when he was a kid. i didnt realize you were planning to ship them in the first place. i thought you knew he was almost fourty

and then they went around telling people i was shipping a 40 year old with an 18 year old. thanks buddy. thanks dude. even though IN MY RULES it mentioned that jake was not up for shipping or meant to end up in any sort of relationship

[cdsillylilyposting]

are you genuinely so ignorant that you made a post calling lily out for *mentioning the name of a flower.* couldnt even bother to look up what she was talking about before pedojacketing her for it?

I never said she was a pedophile for talking about the flower?????

I didn't even want it to come across as an accusation of that at the time

I think you are mistaking genuine confusion for something way more severe

Understandable but is it perhaps you are used to going to bat for Lily whenever one of her actual allegations floats by?

[princessfur-witness]

Porcelain's thread just isn't enough at this point, they need to stop downplaying what they did, and they need to somehow get an actual apology to Trickster or post a real apology to Trickster that can then be posted here (I know he purposefully avoids these blogs, but I'm certain someone who knows him will see it), as well as telling people to stop pedojacketing him. They need to admit that they stalked him to make a thread on their bsky about him months ago and admit that behavior was wrong. And they need to be more serious about admitting that it has been seven months and they are still stalking him. But most importantly they then need to change and never mention him again.

Porcelain needs to get better. This is sick.

[catgirlforeskin]

girl you compared yourself to emmett till for getting anonhate because you defended a pedophile lmao give me a fucking break

Do you ever get embarrassed of using the most bad faith misinterpretations possible to lie about others because you don’t have any legitimate criticisms to levy? I’m guessing you know how shameful it is and that’s why you’re hiding on anon.

For context (since I’m guessing you haven’t even seen the post and just saw a poorly cropped screenshot) I was talking broadly about how pedojacketing is used against trans women, and when someone in the comments didn’t understand how those accusations could be used as targeted bigotry, I gave other historical examples, and mentioned emmett till as one.

This is obviously a very different thing, and given that you’re pedojacketing in your ask, I’m assuming you know this, and just don’t care.