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I will stand by this till death takes me apart.

The sheer fact that The Problematic Prince might actually have been a masterpiece and a wonderfully done case study of a realistic patriarchal Institution, the underlying misogyny of society, and a woman's true, genuine struggles to try to escape this web, but instead we're stuck with it being a shitty 'romance'- I'm sorry, NOT ROMANCE, I am not calling it that. Its all because the the author Sochel, loves her 'male leads' as irredeemable and disgusting as possible.
Erna is genuinely such a beautiful character, her descent into despair is so realistically done, the crushing weight of her institutional responsibilities and her emotionally abusive, yes, abusive husband, all pull her so down in the depths of absolute misery.

She is a victim of abuse. At the hands of her father. At the hands of her husband. And most importantly, at the hands of society. Yet, we see her plight being undermined by the narrative itself. It's despicable, just because the author has some weird kinks.

I have so, SO MANY, more pointers for this, but man I'm just pissed off rn. Nor do I have the energy to type because two nights of no sleep can really do a number on you.

But good god do I hate wasted potential.
(Also my English is like, fucked FUCKED, so-)
I'm going to actually write a full ass essay on this when i get a break from school. I simply HAVE to.
#problematic prince#manhwa#korean#rant post#the problematic prince#sochel's wonderful potrayal of abuse and disgusting romanticism of it#fuck the patriarchy
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my contributions to the valentine's day celebrations in the otomeisekai discord server
#falcon princess#beware the villainess#twilight poem#for my derelict beloved#i tamed a tyrant and ran away#fantasie of a stepmother#villainess's maker#problematic prince#mother's contract marriage#another typical fantasy romance#taming the tyrant#a stepmother's märchen#heeran love song#can't be assed to find the alternate titles for the others#nine forton#what even is hestia's last name she's just hestia to me. like donna from suits#a name and a title#valentine's day#everybody give it up for the first original post i've made since *checks notes* october 31 2021 holy shit#oztalk
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has anyone noticed how the strongest guiding force of both erna and layla seems to be their sense of debt??
erna accepts bjorn's proposal because she feels indebted to him for helping her family. then she tries her level best to make that marraige work because she believes she "owes" it to her grandmother to be happy like she promised rather than "wanting" to be happy herself???
a lot of people say erna expected more from the marriage than what bjorn wanted to give but i honestly think erna's "love" for bjorn was more of a survival mechanism than anything else. she had no idea how badly she would be ostracized and villified because of gladys and believed "loving" bjorn would help her "endure."
it's a conspiracy theory of mine but notice how erna feel out of love with bjorn AFTER the whole Gladys thing was cleared and she was finally accepted in society?? i think erna finally subconsciously felt she didn't need to endure anymore and had payed off her debts by becoming the face of hatred in place of bjorn among other things.
#bjorn dneister#erna dneister#problematic prince#the problematic prince#solche#manhwa review#manhwa#light novel#isekai#thoughts#in this essay i will#webnovel#webcomic#webtoon
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Problematic Prince
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Look at this absolute nerd

[PRINT] - [COMMISSIONS]

Hermaeus Mora knows about lightbulbs (this drawing is lore friendly and immersive)
Process below ! vvv





The dragon was too big to fit in the frame fofklfof so you get Herma mora (less cute but more eyeballs !)
PS : Omfg the colors took so long aaaaaaaaaaa
#I'm still mad u don't have the option in vanilla to not side with Herma mora at the end#but then again it's skyrim why would you have a choice-#let me side with the problematic babygirl todd !!!!#miraak#tes#tes skyrim#skyrim#skyrim dragonborn#hermaeus mora#daedric prince#dragonborn#apocrypha#art#my art#digital art#illustration#fanart#skyrim fanart#the elder scrolls
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Y'know, I spent at least an hour scrolling through Viren/Lissa posts on many different platforms. The people defending Viren? Majority of them were men. The people defending Lissa? Majority of them were women.
The defenses for Viren were things like: "But it was for his son!", "He had to make her because she wouldn't do it herself!", "She should've just gave him her tears!" And then they'd bring up useless shit about Viren that doesn't even correlate to what he did to Lissa to make people feel bad for HIM.
The people defending Lissa are right.
Because she was assaulted, and she was violated. By the man she devoted herself to and trusted, friendly reminder. No mother wants to see her child suffer, so stop saying she didn't care. That's your argument in defense of the perpetrator?
Lissa gave her children the option of who to go with. Soren chose Viren, maybe because he saved him? Maybe because that's what felt right to Soren? Maybe he was afraid of his mother's sadness? Who knows? It probably would have been better had Claudia gone with Lissa, but Lissa told Claudia to stay because she needed to stay with her brother. She said nothing about Viren. She couldn't bear to keep her children apart.
Lissa did not "leave" as a bad mother, she saved herself. How many women are able to leave after they've been assaulted in a relationship? This happens in our reality too. Women are reprimanded and picked on because they didn't leave their abusive relationship, then they are reprimanded and picked on because they did leave their abusive relationship.
Try as you might, you cannot defend the perpetrator. Viren cannot be defended.
#tdp#the dragon prince#continue the saga#give us the saga#greenlight arc 3#tdp s7#tdp s6#tdp lissa#tdp viren#tdp soren#tdp claudia#magefam#tdp magefam#sigh#i'm going to face so much backlash for this#i know people are gonna come for me#but that's fine#because no matter what fandom you're in there will be those people that have to be problematic#people just can't accept others' opinions#i'm not saying only i'm right i'm just trying to explain what people are doing when they're defending viren and shaming lissa#viren was the perpetrator#lissa was the victim#it's not an opinion it's a fact
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as much as i sympathize with the readers who’ve devoted their time to supporting iaptbap, i think it’s in poor taste to say you want the fic to continue.
think about it: who would write the story in lavenoor’s absence? someone who lavenoor gives the account to, a friend who has chosen to maintain contact with a groomer? not to mention how the victim would feel if their groomer's fic continues to receive love and attention despite the author telling a child she wanted to date them.
i’m urging everyone to please write your own fic. fuck the feelings of a groomer who didn’t apologize and ran away when she was outed — she does not own the concept of a yandere disney princess harem isekai. not like she can stop you from writing your own fic unless she decides to not be a coward and face what she did head-on. stop looking to her for content since i can promise that every single one of you can write something far superior to any slop that groomer put out. let iaptbap die and fuck lavenoor
#and i’m going to keep calling her a groomer with my full chest 🫶 fuck you we were all 17 once. we’ve all been traumatized#none of us wanted to date a MIDDLE SCHOOL CHILD#if what she did was defendable then she’d fucking defend it.#and yes i will write something later discussing how problematic iaptbap is because yeah. that fic has some weird content#⤷ ㅤ 𝚂𝙴𝙴 𝚈𝙾𝚄 𝙾𝙽𝙻����𝙽𝙴 ▸ text messages#lavenoor#its a pain to be a prince#iaptbap
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Me finding a fandoms most hated character and somehow sympathizing, relating to, and obsessing over them
#this is mostly about#billy hargrove#jonah magnus#elias bouchard#draco malfoy#freddie lounds#eurylochus#Your problamatic fav? no no no. Our problematic fav.#and many other such cases#heather chandler#jimmy mouthwashing#i cant believe i forgot him#prince hans#<- my babygirl#aml speaks
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Actually feels like I'm losing my mind sometimes 'cause the TDP fandom is the only fandom where it feels like people are hardly at all fawning over the well curated selection of gay DILFs in the series.
Like this is one of the few children's media I know that has canonical mpreg (that's somehow done in a way that's also treated with just as much seriousness as it's treated comedically) and... no one cares? I mean, maybe that wasn't shocking to the fandom at the time and of course a ton of other shit has happened that's gone beyond that (like the cannibalism maybe), but seriously. Surely that should attract people to this show, right?
I mean, tragic old man yaoi became so popular in 2024, I saw everyone talking about it all throughout the year on Tumblr. And no one looked into exploring viravos more through that? Like, what? The way the ship so perfectly aligned with people's ideals for that trope and even hit points that I felt like some people said the most popular ships of that trope weren't able to fit... And if anything it seems like viravos has died down since mid 2024 (around when season 6 came out and when this trope seemed to be peaking in popularity because of the other media coming out at the time that used it) within the show's own fanbase. And it used to be the second most popular ship at that too.
And again, it's one thing for none of these characters or ships to be the main appeal for the fanbase itself... But somehow none of these things draw other people in? That's the crazy part to me. That's what's mind boggling.
#the dragon prince#tdp#viravos#viren#lord viren#aaravos#tdp viren#viren tdp#tdp aaravos#aaravos tdp#another day of wondering why is the series so damn underrated#this turned out to be more of a rant then I intended it to be#but okay so this is my own personal theory#I think a lot of this has to do with the advertising done for the show and creators' interactions with the fandom#cuz it seems like the creators are more heavily aiming at appealing to already existing fans#and I think the thing is most of the already existing fans aren't actually into those things (at least not much anymore)#so there's a lot more promortional material that's made for rayllum and draggang fans#cuz that's a lot more popular currently in the fandom#even tho outside of the fandom what's referenced in the post is what's currently more popular#so ppl outside the show aren't getting exposed to those aspects of the show that are more appealing in bigger fandom spaces#does that make sense?#like even the very few (but well known) ytbers who've done videos on tdp still seem to be more focused on rayllum above anything else#despite also not seeming to be that invested in the fandom#cuz that's all tdp presents itself as and allows itself to present as#(not that that's a bad thing)#also obviously this isn't me saying we should idolize problematic men in media and I'm glad the tdp fandom holds ppl accountable for that#and obviously like the main canon wlw and the most popular mlm ships (janaya and sorvus) are by miles healthier then viravos#but still#(also anyone who thinks that the subreddit is still made up of viren/virrow stans I assure you they lost interest post s6)
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tryna figure out how i wanna draw bentho ft. miku binder benthomaar.
#i would say im sorry but im not#is putting a fish in fishnets problematic#long haired bentho has my heart#ninjago benthomaar#ninjago bentho#prince benthomaar#lego ninjago#ninjago#ninjago fanart#ninjago art#benthomaar ninjago#hes my babygirl#the sharkpuppy ever#lego ninjago fanart#feeding the 5 benthomaar fans!!!!
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Help I got jumpscared by the scene where Nia calls the war refugees protesting arming the countries that drove them from their home as people harping on problems with no solutions
#I'm going to choose to believe she was simply being defensive because she's a Blade and what the countries were being armed with were Blades#No such excuses for Zeke though#bless Rex my little prince for refraining from making judgments before learning the context#and Morag. I mean you're from the royal family of one of those countries you did the best you could I think#xenoblade#xenoblade 2#xc2#Nia is my favorite problematic trans rep I support women's wrongs
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Anyone else tired of people lauding Zuko's redemption arc as "the gold standard of redemption arcs"? While its popularity is far from unearned, I wouldn't call his arc the "be-all and end-all" of examples; doing so entails overlooking other redemption arcs for taking different approaches to redeeming characters than the Zuko arc.

His misdeeds were a bit more serious than that, bud. Yet at the same time, the retweeter is correct about one thing: Zuko's crimes are indeed easier to stomach — the other villains outdid him in the heinous department — making him palatable to people who don't want redemption arcs for characters that do really bad stuff.
So, without further ado, here are some redeemed characters with worse misdeeds under their belts than Zuko!
Cartoons

Grace Monroe (Infinity Train)
Animated Films

Emperor Kuzco (The Emperor's New Groove)
Manga/Anime

Thorfinn Thorsson (Vinland Saga)
Live Action Films

Wikus van de Merwe (District 9)
Video Games

Red Hood/Jason Todd (Batman: Arkham Knight)
This one is... complicated, but yes.
Books

Severus Snape (Harry Potter)
Live-Action TV

Spike (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
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Who would you add to this list?
#avatar the last airbender#prince zuko#redemption#problematic faves#fandom#grace monroe#emperor kuzco#thorfinn#wikus van der merwe#jason todd#severus snape#spike#my posts
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Do you ship it?

Problematic Reasons: Enemies. Qi Rong helped murder Lang Qianqiu's entire family and once Lang Qianqiu found out he was responsible for the massacre he vowed to hunt him down for revenge (he did destroy Qi Rong's preferred ghost body once, by slicing him in half and teasing him in a cauldron, but then Qi Rong just possessed the body of some guy and ended up a single father).
Propaganda: The drama of it all compels me. Also Lang Qianqiu is looking after Qi Rong's adoptive son while they wait for Qi Rong to reform his ghost body (different situation than the aforementioned slicing+cauldron thing), so... enemies-to-coparents-to-friends-to-lovers? 🥴
#qi rong#lang qianqiu#qi rong x lang qianqiu#qi rong/lang qianqiu#qiurong#prince tai hua#night-touring green lantern#tian guan ci fu#tgcf#heaven official's blessing#poll#m/m#mlm#male slash#gay slash#problematic maleslash polls#tw: enemies#tw: murder#tw: mutilation
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I love that a well used ao3 tag for the locked tomb is ‘content warning: Ianthe Tridentarius’. It’s like yes that girl is a content warning simply by existing thank you for telling me
#the locked tomb#ianthe tridentarius#we stan a problematic queen#oops prince. we stan a problematic prince#incoherent owl screeching
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Problematic Prince
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I see people ship their characters with Daedric Princes, or at least simp and/or thirst very hard for them coughNocturnalcough but like what about the Aedra? The Divines? Yeah, no one wants to ship their character with Talos. I understand. But there are other options! Dibella-shaped options! And Stendarr, okay? I like Stendarr. And Arkay. And I know you all love Kyne/Kynareth, don't lie!
#where's the dibella/f!ldb fic#do i have to do EVERYTHING#look i know some of them are problematic but actually all of them are in some way and i don't just mean the aedra i mean the daedra too okay#but we ship anyway#the only one who doesn't get a pass is molag bal who is horrible and gets no fun shipping times because i hate him#mod post#tes#the elder scrolls#skyrim#oblivion#morrowind#AND LIKE WE KNOW FROM MORROWIND THAT THE AEDRA CAN MANIFEST A PRESENCE ON TAMRIEL IT'S NOT THAT FAR OF A REACH#and even if it were has that ever stopped you people?#by talos this can't be happening#divines#aedra#daedric princes#dibella#stendarr#arkay#mara#kyne#kynareth#akatosh#julianos#zenithar#nocturnal#talos
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