#respect to normal Swifties

[bodyhorrorprincess]

[inkbirdie]

why did i have to like taylor swifts music. i wish the world was normal

[imhereonthekitchenfloor]

Tumblr swifties, I love you❤️ The media and the general swiftie fanbase is so weird about Taylor Swift and I cannot imagine interacting with Taylor Swift content anywhere but here. We are the only sane ones. You go to any other platform and it's all conspiracy theories about Taylor's life and easter eggs galore and number theories that don't even make sense and theorizing about Taylor's sexuality. And it's considered cool to interact as unhinged as possible (respectable) but then everyone actually believes these things and holds Taylor to these crazy standards. Her fans create fanfiction about who Taylor is as a person and it's treated as canon law of Taylor's life. If you point out the truth people tell you that you are wrong and they are a bigger fan. The media sees these shenanigans on Twitter and tiktok and decides to capitalize off of Taylor and her fanbase doing whatever they can to prove they are the biggest and best fans. No one is normal about being a fan anymore. Casual swifties can't even escape this because the unhinged behavior is glorified everywhere they go. I know we joke about gatekeeping on here, but if I saw swifties on other platforms I would run as far as I could.

[swiftiedidsomethingbad]

Swifties, we need to do better. I’ve been a fan of Taylor since I was 10 years old and never in my life would I think it’s okay to put her in the situations we keep seeing unfold. Showing up outside her private dinner with Travis? Crowding outside Jack Antonoff’s wedding rehearsal? Treating her every public outing like a red carpet event? This is NOT what being a fan is about.

Taylor has given us so much—her music, her time, her energy, her emotions, her performances. She owes us nothing beyond that. She should be able to go out to dinner, attend a friend’s wedding or simply exist in public without being swarmed. She’s a person, not a spectacle. The fact that she literally cannot go anywhere without security should be a wake-up call. That’s not normal. That’s not okay.

If you truly love Taylor, show her respect. Support her from a distance. Go to her concerts, stream her music, buy her albums. But don’t track her movements, don’t show up uninvited and don’t act like you have a right to her private moments. She has spent her entire career fighting for boundaries and privacy—listen to her.

We are better than this. We should be the kind of fans who protect her, not the reason she needs protection. If you ever find yourself in a situation where you could join a crowd like this, DON'T. Be the fan who chooses respect. Be the fan who actually cares about Taylor as a person. It’s the least she deserves.

Stop justifying stalking as support. She is not a tourist attraction, she is a person who deserves privacy, peace and safety. If you wouldn’t want to be treated this way, why is it okay to do it to her? It’s time to reflect, take responsibility and be better.

[thegreatimpersonator]

i can’t wait for swifties to be totally respectful, normal and mature about this

[zot3-flopped]

Socialistay: Oh, I agree. I'm pretty sure I would get along fine with the reasonable antis. Or at the very least find common ground. But up until now I have only attracted the toxic ones.

Mind you i was the kendrick fan that called them out for the way they were fine with racist hate being sent to the ex of travis from swifties. I was reasonable, you saw and reblogged my asks i sent in later to another blog i liked. I was polite, i wasn‘t toxic, but she decided to not post my asks anymore because she couldn‘t defend herself against my reasonings anymore and now she is crying about how she only has toxic asks???

No, when we are reasonable, you (socialistay) decide to not post our asks and you decide to blatantly ignore us and shoo away those reasonable ones. Instead she posts all the toxic ones just so she can play the victim.

You can‘t burn the candle on two ends. Either treat the nontoxic/polite ones with respect and show how you get two types of asks, then you can complain about the toxic ones. Orrr you can do as you do already: delete the polite ones but only post the toxic ones thenn!!

You can‘t complain about boohoo me i only get toxic asks look guys. This just shows how unreasonable, how she just has a victim complex cause nobody pays attention to her anymore when she treats the nice ones like trash, how narrow minded she is and how you can not argue or even have a normal conversation with her.

i don‘t like people who paint the reality in a way to make themselves look like a victim, just show the reality, don‘t twist the truth.

reminds me a lot of somebody who they stan

that is why i love kendrick, he says how it is, no bs, she should take a listen

****

Had to cut down the long quote from defendingts. She maintains that antis are doing terrible things but is rarely specific. She has completely the wrong definition of doxxing and thinks it means sharing someone's primary blog on tumblr, when said blog is anonymous. Doxxing is sharing a real name. I could do that with Cages but I won't. Nobody knows defending's real name so she can't be doxxed.

[kwyw]

So according to the interview:

- TK can't shut up about Taylor, even though she "hates" him flapping his mouth about their relationship. (I see some seeds being down.)

- Travis sells himself hard as a sweet, sensitive guy, but even his friends don't know the real him, and Taylor is still trying to figure it out. (I smell an escape strategy.)

- Scott Swift arranged all of this. Like we suspected.

- Travis was a celebrity in Kansas City and a complete nobody outside it, before the promance. Slice it any way you want - Taylor made him famous, is the message here. (Can we say C-L-O-U-T C-H-A-S-E-R? All together now, come on, kids! Spelling is fun!)

- Travis lacks direction and has no idea what to do when his football career expires. He's just throwing whatever at the wall to see what sticks. He needs money. He thinks about money a lot, while driving around town in his half a million dollar customized car. It's not at all obnoxious.

- Travis has no problem telling Taylor's security guards to step down so he can take charge and feel like the man . . . but he can't assert himself against a friend who talked smack about him on a podcast, or argue his worth to the employers who underpay him.

- He doesn't seem to understand Taylor's popularity, thinking a Hollywood reporter will need the concept of the Eras Tour explained to him. Huh? That's not being "a Swiftie" - that's proving how little attention he pays to her as an artist. It comes across like he only knows the most basic, surface level things about her career. 1989 was a smash hit, the Eras Tour is huge right now, Taylor is known for her emotionally-resonant break-up songs. Maybe his team wrote him out a little primer. Taylor 101.

- I did enjoy the comedy of Blank Space being his favorite song though. Someone somewhere is having fun with all of this.

- Everyone who falls into this man's orbit is struck by a sudden desire to write fanfiction about his relationship with Taylor Swift. It's uncanny. She's probably at his home right now! Tapping her toes impatiently while a home cooked apple pie cools on the window sill! Sure, Jan.

- Stalking Taylor's jet has gone mainstream, apparently. Major publications are just openly admitting they track it to guess where she is. So respectful. Let's just put this in a magazine for millions of readers and normalize it. Why the heck not? What could go wrong? No wonder she cut the wings off the damn jet five years ago

- Travis may be the most cornball of all Taylor's beards. "Wish on a star and you might manifest dating Taylor Swift into being!" I need someone to drag Karlie to the nearest observatory and get her wishing, stat 😂

The main takeaway: this was hilarious, and sure was illuminating 🤭

[penguinlife]

Being part of a following

It is funny to me that over the years, I have joined and left a few followings. I was a massive supporter of the Olympic skating sensation VirtueMoir. Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir. If you don't know about them, please look them up on Youtube. They were amazing. Scott and Tessa started skating when they were 10 and 8. They competed in the Olympics a few times and also won a few times. But it was after the Sochi Olympics in 2018, and Thank You Tour that the fans went crazy, mostly on Twitter. Everything was analysed in detail. It seemingly looked like they finally hooked up. It was during their thank you tour that things changed. And then it just evaporated. They went their separate ways. We will never know what happened there.

Scott and Tessa are still good friends, but they are married to other people and are parents now. I sometimes go back and look at all the videos, but it is no longer the fan frenzy it was.

I supported Carol Chaves and Colby Schnacky. They were adorable. They are youtube influencers. They started in Covid with daily vidoes. It is still worth a watch. Carol is now married to Caleb and Colby is MIA. He sometimes still goes on Tiktok live.

Here is my fav vid of them.

There was Nina (Elena) and Ian (Damon) from The Vampire Diaries, known as Delena. It was sonhot when they were on, and super awkward when they were not. Ian turned on the fans, and they lost respect for him. He still blames the fans for how his acting career ended. But to be honest, it was the way he spoke to the fans, that did it. With all fandoms, as we have seen, there are a few that overstep, making it toxic. But normally, the fans will collectively manage the problem. When TVD ended. We all moved on.

I am also a Swifty who ships Taylor with Travis. I can't wait for them to get married.

So now to Polin. I love Luke and Nicola and hope for their happiness. Yes, I want them to be together. Mostly because the world needs more of that soul mate energy. We need to know that their love is real and exists. But, if they don't come out as a couple, it will be fine. We will be dissapounted, but it will not be the end of the world. I want to see Luke in everything and also in nothing (wink wink). I will support their careers no matter what. Well, except if they do something that is illegal or morally corrupt.

Fan ships come and go. It should not be your whole life. Your happiness, joy, purpose, and value should be determined by your own life.

[sophielovestaylor]

CALLING ALL SWIFTIES!! PLEASE READ THIS 🫶🏼🫶🏼

hey y’all!! this is an extremely big ask but i’ve been trying to get in touch with taylor and her team for ever, to hopefully one day try and meet her and i know it might not be likely but even if it isn’t i hope this message reaches her somehow!! let’s try make it happen swifties!

hi taylor!!! im not sure if this message will ever reach you or not seeing as you propably get loads of messages each day, but i’m gonna try and shoot my shot and see if by literally a miracle you’ll be able to read this message im gonna write to you!!

firstly, i’ve literally thought about writing this letter to you so many times (like SO MANY TIMES) but somehow my words always felt like they weren't enough to express the gratitude, admiration, and deep connection i feel toward you and your music but today i have FINALLY decided to just let my heart speak, and so therefore im writing to you! but no matter how hard i honestly don’t i could ever truly write how much you actually mean to me, how much your music has impacted my life, or how your presence in the world has been literally a light during some of the darkest times l've ever experienced (im so sorry if this letter might seem really creepy or weird i promise im just a normal 15 year old girl who loves her cat!!)

tbh i can't exactly pinpoint the first moment i discovered your music (i think it was around like 2017 and i was like 10) but when i first started consciously listening to you and knew who you where which is around when rep was released i remember how it felt and god was reputation such a good fucking album (rep tv or debut tv when because i am ACHING for those vault tracks ma’am!!!!) when i first listened to folklore when it came out it was like someone had finally put into words all the emotions i was too afraid or unable to express, your lyrics spoke directly to my heart and and it felt like for the first time, someone understood me and to me it was more than just listening to music it was like you were a friend who was there for me when I needed someone most, and your music even though you literally didn't know me at all helped me so much more than you could ever imagine

third off i just want to say thank you for being such an amazing person, you have one of the most genuinest and kindest souls i have ever seen, and beyond the music, i have to tell you that who you are as a person has been an equally important source of inspiration for me, i’ve watched you navigate your career with such strength, and an unwavering sense of self, even in the face of incredibly difficult situations (scooter braun they could never make me like you) and you as a person has shown me and so many others that it's okay to stand up for yourself, to speak your truth, and to own your story, even when the world tries to silence you.

your bravery in standing up for your rights as an artist, your dedication to us swifties, and your ability to remain authentic in an industry that often values image over substance has been nothing short of inspiring, you’ve faced public betrayal and criticism, yet somehow you continue to rise above it all with such resilience and this is something i honestly respect so much and you are honestly so so brave and such a role model for people all over the world (especially me) and watching you navigate those challenges with such literal amazingness gave me the strength to face my own challenges with a little more courage and to be myself no matter what anyone thinks and i will forever appreciate you for teaching me life lessons sometimes that nobody around me could

i have never felt more love and genuine happiness for literally anyone ever, i’m so proud of how far you’ve come in life and that you finally find someone that treats you with all the love and respect that you ma’am deserve (mrs kelce when????)

anyways tay i don’t want to bore you but thank you for being such an inspiring role model in my life, you’re music was always there for me when i needed it and even if you don’t know me i will always and forever be in your corner and will always root for you! when i stayed up watching the vmas i literally SCREAMED when you won!!!

when i first started secondary school, i used to go through a ton amount of bullying and people coming at for over nothing everyday over literally just the way i looked and i used to get added to so many group chats and get mugs of me posted alllll over peoples snapchat stories just because i was a little bit different to everyone, but through all of that who was there for me? FOLKLORE AND EVERMOREEE 🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️!! you’re music and a lot of the things you’ve said about mental health and empowering women has helped me find my voice and my confidence and to be myself no matter what and i’ve made every single moment since then to embrace myself as a person and make the most out of my life!

this year i’m about to sit my gcses which i honestly find so freaky! but to end this off, hopefully if you ever see this i’d love to one day be able to meet you and i know you propably get a thousand of messages a day of people asking the same thing, but to me meeting you would literally be a life long dream, i would love nothing more than to actually just sit and talk to you and hang out with you and literally just be two normal people having a conversation, so maybe if you do happen to see this..maybe it’ll work out 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

i love you tay, and i’ll always always be in your corner rooting for you!! <3

- sophie 🫶🏼

here’s my socials for any of y’all that want it!! :)

insta: sophiegrrce

snapchat: sophiegrxce12

twitter: sophsversionx

[theafterglow83]

A word about the crazy maylors I’ve been seeing popping up lately.

These people actually believe that Taylor Swift had a secret relationship with Matty Healy going on and Joe was PR to cover it up for the last 7-8 +years

Now I’ve heard of crazy things in my life but this is taking the cake. What kind of normal self respecting man ( supposedly Matty) would ever let another man beard ( Joe) for him? Like seriously? Would that not destroy a man’s self esteem and ego not to mention his pride. Sorry . They are barking up the wrong tree.

They got the secret relationship part right ( Karlie) and I understand why that would happen To keep Taylor’s career safe from scandalous lesbian rumors that were and still are flying everywhere.

But a man letting another man be a beard to cover up a male-female relationship?

No, that just isn’t happening. Taylor had no reason to hide any kind of relationship with a white male her own age. PR could have cleaned him up a bit and sold him to the swiftie cult Look what they’re doing with Travis.

[taylortruther]

Idk if this is an unpopular opinion or more of an observation: this fandom is very much not normal about gay men. It makes a 100% sense that conversations about homophobia in the fandom mainly are about sapphic swifties, because they are a huge part of the fandom and face intense harassment. Men generally are less prominent within the fandom, so I see why people don't always think about how they are spoken about. However, because of this and the fact that "twitter gays" are enemy of the state for swifties on that platform because of their frequent dislike of Taylor, it can feel like homophobia geared towards gay men is a free for all. And I don't just mean the absolutely horrendous comments people leave on Twitter, but also the way people talk about Joe's "lack" of masculinity or make jokes about him being bi* in a way that reduce (male) bisexuality to something ridiculous. Even the anon you got after somebody said Joe would have been good in Challengers felt (unintentionally) dismissive of him potentially playing a gay role. Why is that? This might also be a tumblr thing where the demographic of the website is a bit different then on twitter, but the fact that one of the main groups that regularly get harrassed by Swifties are gay men is frequently ignored and that rubs me the wrong way, and I think it relates to how the fandom in general talks about gender and sexuality.

*addition: the assumption that Joe must be queer because of his quiet demeanor or the field he works in was huge in the fandom at some point and it has always felt icky to me and very much tied to traditional gender roles, which is something this fandom is very infected by. But this was also very en vogue in gaylor spaces, for obvious reasons, but there is also a convo to be had about how gay women don't always treat gay men with dignity or respect. (Their male privilege is not a catch all excuse.)

you're preaching to the choir here. it stems from the same issues of misogyny and homophobia as the anti-wlw sentiments though. like, it's wrong for women to express sexual desire over another woman, especially one like taylor, whose femininity is pretty paramount to her persona. and in comparison to uber-masculine travis, joe becomes "gay," just like josh kushner was called gay in kaylor circles because of his ~mannerisms~ or perceived lack of masculinity. there are many other things to say about this phenomenon but it should be very obvious to everyone by now that swifties (like the rest of the world, but it's highly visible in this fandom due to who taylor is and how she looks) have very intense opinions about what femininity and masculinity should look like. and if someone in the universe steps out of line then it's criticized pretty openly.

[thekiddisnotmyson]

Just to say I don't actually hate Swifties. Yes some are annoying. But many seem to be normal. So if I talk shit about them I mean the few people who are toxic not the fandom as a whole.

I hate Taylor Swift. I respect Swifties who like her music but still hold her accountable and aren't afraid to criticise her. ( I don't respect those who stream her film on Disney+)

It's just alot of the fans are so toxic and Taylor Swift is largely to blame for that. Because she stirrs them on with her damn Easter Eggs like she is the Easterbunny and doesn't call them out when they are going to far.

[please-picturemeintheweeds]

What elements and emotions do you relate to in TTPD and the album? I love hearing how people relate to Taylor's music

Content note: trauma!

On a literal level, not many, tbh! I haven’t been through what she describes on TTPD:ta, except for a mediocre long term boyfriend between ages 18-21 (so marriage and kids were very abstract for us), and I had a really really horrible boyfriend in highschool and a “fling” that left me feeling extremely violated when I was on a break from that college boyfriend. So my experiences have flavors of what she describes, without the meat because I was squarely not an adult woman for them. However. I do have a very extensive child abuse history, and I deal with severe mental illness. And the themes of regret, losing time, not knowing who you are anymore, drowning in flashbacks and what ifs, having to retrace your steps to find the beginning, being alone with yourself when the dust settles, having to claw your way back from the brink of death, trust issues, self loathing, self sabotage, etc AND CRUCIALLY ON TTPD: the steadfast belief that creating and putting one foot in front of the next until you are OK again, even if you can’t see what’s in front of you, the tenderness for past selves, the judgement free exploration of How We Got Here, the unpacking of paranoia and how it leads to the realization that sometimes you aren’t being paranoid, you’re being observant, the determination to walk away from habits and patterns that no longer serve you anymore,.. all of the healing stuff is very relatable to me. Taylor has always explored these themes (and tbh I think they are nearly universal regardless of life experiences bc statistically most people deal with some form of ptsd!). But TTPD is so unapologetic about it. It’s a very proud album, to me, which I appreciate because that shit is hard! And it’s messy! And it means diving into the shit you’ve done to fuck up other people when you were acting from a wounded place! The anger in the album stands out, too. Idk.

I’ve said since release night that the album(s) feel like two weeks of therapy. Like week one is telling your therapist the Events and How You Felt About The Events, and week two is the therapist asking like 3 questions that make you have an existential crisis, brutally murder your past self, and then resurrect her using witchcraft and psychoanalysis and blazing self respect. and pure, old fashioned, childhood joy. Idk!!! It’s just really really messy and scary and off putting! It drives people away! It brings you closer to the people who will be there for you no matter what. It is rock bottom, when the person who pushed you off the cliff was yourself, and you realize that someone who should be throwing you a rope is just laughing at you from the top. And it’s also so very normal!!!

I’m also an evermore girlie for the same reasons, and think that folklore and evermore have the same two part therapy session vibes as TTPD:ta. Midnights is like… intake paperwork. Like when they make you write a timeline of every trauma that’s ever happened to you. And then you can start connecting the dots afterwards.

so overall, I am staying true to my roots as a swiftie blog and going with TRAUMA as my final answer 😌

[heystephen]

Of course!! You have an actual healthy relationship to being a Swiftie. You enjoy her music and content without defending every last thing she does and treat her like an actual genuine and sometimes flawed human being capable of both goodness and bad, and that's so rare. Fans now a days, I swear they see their favorite star/artist/actor as a god or something who's always perfect and never makes the wrong choice, and it's exhausting. Famous or not, Taylor is a person too, but finding fans who actually treat her as such are rare af. So I appreciate one when I see one. I always feel very out of place because I just can't stop seeing "celebrities" as just normal people. Famous or not, I dislike everyone equally ♡ /lh/hj I'm not a people person and being famous means absolutely nothing to me. Celebrities aren't any more special than every person is who's "ordinary" or not.

aw, i appreciate that ❤️‍🩹 you’re absolutely right- i think more than ever there’s a divide in many fandoms where one camp practically deifies their fave and defends their every little action while the other camp seeks to criticize every small thing their fave does. frankly, i’ve been both at different phases and found both to be exhausting. the most respectful thing one can do, in my opinion, as a fan of a celebrity, is to treat them like fallible human beings.

[joesalw]

I don't think the problem to Taylor and the swifties is only the not wanting to marry thing (I don't even think that was the case. I think he did want but at the some point changed his mind). I think the biggest issue is that both the swifties and Taylor thought well back in 2016, he agreed to live the life she needed, more reclusive and all. To the expense of his career mind you, cause he was just starting, could have ridden the hype, had a first taste by himself about fame, built a fanbase on his own...he made a choice that cost a different kind of career start. Because he liked her and we are dumb for love sometimes. So he did it, he built a life that was good for him and for them. Years later, little miss suddenly decides she loves attention and fame too much to just live a normal life where you are known for your work more than who you are dating. The way Joe carried himself made that possible for her, for the first time. The headlines about her were about her music, while his often were tied together to her no matter what he did. So she asks him again to change his life and what angers her and the swifties is that this time he didn't go along with something he didn't want. And why in hell should he if his life is working well just the way it is? I'm wondering if she suddenly wanted him to name drop her in every interview, because who freaking cares if he's promoting his work and even when he barely gave them anything that was still the headline being written. It's so freaking selfish not to notice the big power inbalance and then mock someone calling him jobless when if he's doing his job you want him to focus on gushing about his girlfriend. You already think he got money and jobs from her, I wonder what would have been said if he was the kind of boyfriend to talk about her every interview. Taylor more than anyone should know what's like being known for your romantic relationships, rather than your art, because she constantly complains about it (although she encourages it). She should have understood he is a human being first and even respect the fact that he wanted to build a name on its own, by not using her. I guess either she didn't or started to think other things were more important.

I highly doubt she didn't know he wouldn't have agreed to it, but she stayed anyway and ig pretended for a bit she's not a fame hungry person and was ok with all of it. All of this cause she didn't wanna lose him and I bet she knew it would happen lmao makes you think huh she was so unhappy and he was such a monster, but she was still there

this!

[infectiouspiss]

i have so much respect for the swifties who are down to clown on her little miss billionaire may make good music but she's not immune to criticism . also i think gaylors are funny and more normal about her than the diehard fans