#ssov

[porcelianboy2]

Okay so like,

I wonder how long the Croatoans lasted after Klarion left. Charity tried to convince him to stay and become the new submissionary, but that didn’t work, so did they just… not have a leader? I mean all the witch men were probably killed or seriously injured, and I assume only men can be submissionaries cause pilgrim age and whatnot. I know they still had male kids but they’re yk KIDS. Maybe I missed something but I’ve never heard of any mentions of Croatoan witchfolk after SSOV, so did they just like, die out?

[quadrupleangst]

dw guys I'll give him a girlfriend in the next post

[phantamic-moriori]

Back on my limbo town soap box, what would people from limbo town be called?

Obviously, they're all homo magi thanks to pink Andrew tate, buts that's their genus (or whatever I'm not a biologist). Maybe Limbo Townian, but that sounds too awkward. Witch could work... If this wasn't dc where there's a thousand other witches.

Limboian? Limboish? Croatonian (I think this works well)?

Judging by Klarion's reaction, pilgrims wouldn't do either, and puritains aren't historically accurate. Side rant, Limbo townsfolk being called "puritains," yet also being Roanoke colonial settlers makes no sense. Why would the British, who oppressed the puritains, send them to America to settle on their behalf?

But back on track, i don't even know if Limbo Town is known enough to have a name for the people that come from there. Less than like 5% are or have interacted with the world's surface themselves for them to even be documented as an ethnicity. However, for the sake of this analysis, let's say Limbo Town has started to be somewhat accquanted (I can't spell sorry) with the overworld for a few years into the future. They're not publically known, but have provided some new crypid theories in America, and are instead only known by the deep American government. What would a person of Limbo Town descent be identified as? In the Dc universe, do they instead identify people as their genus because of the vast difference of species threatening earth?

GODDAMMIT DC HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO US???

[eclair-creampuff]

Cryptids spotted in the streets

[dailyjsa]

Stargirl Spring Break Special #1

Artist: Jerry Ordway

Colors: Hi-Fi

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⭐️👧

[static-martini]

after spending a couple years fixated on witch-boy, it really felt like plunging into ice water having the Bride to chew on :p and what's better is I've already read half her appearance list-

[brainrotgoverner]

EZEKIEL MENTION!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a VERY obvious favorite <3

Best step-father in fiction I don't care they tried to make him his uncle or whatever <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

[shyfurby]

Sorry but if you show me a character that wears little buckle shoes or anything slightly puritan in fashion I'm sold.

[lacunalunatic]

The spooky horrors ahead (warning for body horror)

The thing about the Horigal, is that I really wanted to draw back to its horrifying roots from the original SSOV comic by adding my interpretation here in this AU.

Extremely unstable, yet with horrifying intelligence. I think the worst part is that it doesn’t exactly have any physical limitations when it comes to expressions. This abomination (I say lovingly ✨) will appear soon in the fan comics, and play a detrimental role, as well as an enemy.

“Together, is better with you, my friend. They can’t hurt us if we are together.”

[dcdreamblog]

Stumbled into an online fight over whether SSoV member the Vigilante counted as a Western Hero, and there was a lot of confusion. Some of it was mixing him up with the other, more recent Vigilante with all the TWs, but I was wondering if you could address the following claims? That he was a werewolf, that he was Thanagarian, that he was racist, and/or was a time traveler from the Old West.

First, to answer the broadest question on the table. No, The Vigilante does not count as an old western gunslinger because he's too young to have lived during the actual Old West. His debut was in 1941 and his motif was intentionally playing on the dime novel and vaudeville stereotypes OF cowboys and western gunslingers.

(A sketch portrait The Vigilante himself commissioned during the height of his career. Striking the kind of pose and wearing the kind of things and gunslinger was imagined to wear by the early 40s)

I do know at least the small seed of truth that each of these wild accusations is coming from, though how some of them warped into what you heard is WILD. I'll go through them one by one:

Werewolf: It's not that he IS one, it's that he shot one. One of the most famous and impressive shots the man ever made was during a battle with a lycanthrope. After being pinned beneath heavy stones during the initial scuffle, he used his belt to lasso a nearby gun, loaded a silver bullet into the chamber and ricocheted the shot off the cave wall into the beast using only the wolf's shadow and the shadow of another hero battling the monster as reference points.

Thanagarian: Again, he's not Thanagarian, one would think we would notice massive avian wings sprouting from his back. His association with the Thanagarians is that he was captured during the Thanagarian invasion from some years back and was put through deeply inhumane torture at their hands before being freed by allies. The events have stayed with him making him hesitant to trust the Thanagarian Hawks, though public appearances alongside Hawkwoman suggest that that iceberg may be thawing with time.

Time Traveler: Got the order of events (from his perspective at least) reversed. After WWII the Seven Soldiers became dispersed across time during the final battle with their arch-nemesis. Vigilante spent months if not years in the wild west, making a name for himself as an ironically nameless bounty hunter and gunslinger before being rescued from history by the JLA

Racist; HARD-LY. Vigilante was known to go to bat directly for oppressed communities on his turf. Usually Native Americans, Hispanics, Ex-Convicts and Asian Americans. He sponsored multiple ex-convict societies where his personal vouching allowed former criminals to find well paying work even in war and post war industry. His own sidekick Stuff was of Chinese-American descent making both of them very active in fighting crime in Asian communities in the Southwest and more than once he engaged in tense standoffs with local law enforcement for the rights of tribes and natives. He blew at least one sheriff's toe off when he stepped it over the line of the Crow Reservation in Montana.

Greg Saunders has lived an interesting life. On top of all that there's the obvious fact that his secret ID is one of the most influential country western stars of his generation. As a society (and certainly my discipline) we are lucky he's such a candid public speaker even at this point in his life

[quadrupleangst]

Was he in time-out here or something

[motley-box-rose-1]

Yeah, SevSol Klarion and the world he comes from was definitely under explored. Honestly, reading those issues were what made me interested in Klarion in the first place, and they’re probably why the interest is persisting so far. There’s something very compelling, not only in SevSol Klarion’s coming of age narrative, but also in the tastes of worldbuilding that we are given. Mixing gothic puritan culture + oppressive necromancer society + mystery and exploration was a GENIUS move. It’s a balance of familiarity with new twists, so as readers we have enough to assume and latch onto while still being challenged to ask questions about how the world works.

Unfortunately, yeah, we really don’t get to go deeper.

With that said, I personally think Chaos Lord Klarion can be fun too. Or, at least I feel like he has the potential to be even more fun. Like, don’t get me wrong, I feel like the Young Justice version of Klarion was enjoyable and served his role well there, but I feel like there’s a way to combine the best of both worlds. Like, the backstory and aesthetic of SevSol combined with some sort of shenanigans and/or power boost that makes Klarion a chaos lord. I don’t think he should be totally evil though… that aspect, I feel, makes the character too predictable and one-note, ironically. I think Klarion is at his best when writers tap into his childishness, the chaos he causes by virtue of being a bratty, short-sighted kid who operates on the morals of a necromancer witch-society versus the morals of earth—the former, when combined with near godhood and immortality, probably making the idea of consequences seem like a vague fairytale.

I will never forgive dc for not letting limbo town be PROPERLY explored.

Don't get me wrong, I love choas Lord klarion and his recent appearances. It broadens Klarion's character out to be involved in more situations (instead of being one of Batman's like 1000000 enemies) and provides an interesting new look on the character.

HOWEVER, I believe SevSol (seven soliders) Klarion should've been given more attention, at least from an animation perspective. In The New Batman Adventures, we only see the og Klarion for one episode. After that, we IMMEDIATELY cut to only chaos Lord Klarion in animated media. The poor pilgrim wasn't even given a chance by the time SevSol was out for a while!

SevSol Klarion's story is so cool, too. I love it so much because I feel like his story is disconnected enough from the other DC comics that I don't have to read a bagillion just to understand the stuff in his run. His story gives SUCH 90s dark fantasy, Gothic horror, adventure realness that was just too good to be put on the back burner. Underground there's a secret colony of pilgrims who are actually witches, and then a boy from that colony escapes into the big city from the sewers? SIGN ME UP???

You could literally tweak a few things and it could be it's own original story, but NOOOOOOO DC had to take that concept and nip it in the bud after like...maybe the Sorcerer King's run/Suicide Squad: Black Files? And after that we got some shXtty reboot (don't even get me STARTEDDD) that die after a bit too.

Anyway, the point is I'm extremely angry from DC giving us a cool ass concept of underground witches and then tossing it out. Not to mention it wasn't even given a proper send off, is Salem still here? Uriah? Melmoth?

Something so interesting was slapped in the face and now nobody can actually expand on it, expect for the VERY little Klarion fans.

I would've loved to see SevSol Klarion animated in some way, but that's veryyyyyy unlikely now with Chaos Lord Klarion.

Also... Would it be a crime to say I find SevSol to be more interesting than Chaos Lord Klarion? He's kinda just a crazy villain now and I liked the focus that SevSol put onto Klarion's full character.

Safe to say, I mourn the potential Limbo town and SevSol Klarion could've had every day🥀.

[eclair-creampuff]

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[dailyjsa]

Leading Comics #2 cover by Mort Meskin

[ahthefreedomofbeingbacteria]

Some ideas if I wrote the 2015 Klarion comic:

-Klarion leaves Limbo Town (LT) at 14 and is homeless for a few years until he meets Rasp at 17 (gotta keep the homeless trend going)

-Klarion still leaves because he kills his teacher (angst)

-Teekl is alive and well

-LT is a faery town in another dimension. I'm still deciding how to make them puritans / puritan inspired (maybe half faery half human, maybe just the ideology instead of them being actual puritans). Their society is structured very similarly to puritan society, with rigid social + gender roles and hierarchy.

- Between LT and Earth there's another sort of mixed dimension that you have to cross through to get to one from the other (you can't jump directly from one to another, you need to cross through there first)

-Familiars in LT are formed from magic in this mixed realm. These familiars are captured and brought to LT to be chosen by young witches for a ceremony at 5 years old. Teekl was a familiar that survived in this mixed realm for several years, which is very rare because almost all familiars either get captured by LT or find there way to Earth and lose most of their magic, becoming normal animals with a little bit of extra supernatural in them. She was considered temperamental and disobedient because she was NOT happy about eventually being captured 💀. She was kept despite this because her being able to survive so long could mean she's a more powerful familiar.

-She was captured in the year that Klarion's ceremony took place in. Klarion instantly wanted her because she was rebellious and cool in his eyes; she was also much bigger than the other familiars because she'd grown up in the mixed realm so BIG FLUFFY KITTY. She hissed and bit at literally everyone.

-Uriah is a clergy member's son in this universe, so he's very bratty and very conceited

-Uriah also wanted Teekl because she was potentially more powerful than the other familiars. He spent the entire time allocated to choosing a familiar chasing after her and trying to force her to like him. Which, if you know cats, had the opposite effect

-Klarion spent what little time Uriah didn't take up talking to her, which is considered very weird behavior because 1) she's not his familiar yet and 2) its considered proper to either talk via the bond formed between witch and familiar or just give them verbal orders.

-At the end of the ceremony Uriah gave up and chose another one. Klarion decided to not pick any familiar because Teekl didnt want to pick anyone. Which was unheard of and also considered very weird behaviour.

-During the next 3 years Klarion sneaked into the Farm where the familiars are kept to talk to Teekl. When he was 8 he helped her escape and get back to the mixed realm

-She decided to stay there instead of losing her magic because Klarion was her friend and she wouldn't be able to visit him anymore if she left for Earth. She sneaks in a lot to see him.

-Him repeatedly turning down a familiar at the choosing ceremony makes his rebellious reputation much worse (he never chooses a familiar, so he has no actual familiar when he leaves at 14)

-Charity Bleak is his mother, Beulah is his sister and Ezekiel is his step-dad like on SSOV.

- I think Charity should have been outcasted for a bit because Klarion's dad left LT for Earth. This was because 1) her husband left her (wasn't killed) and 2) he was a rebel (she couldn't keep him in line). She worked very hard to get back into the good graces of LT and is desperate to keep herself there. Klarion's rebellious nature reminds her of his dad AND could potentially take away all the hard work she put into fitting into LT again. She paints all his Problems tm as him being his father's son and never defends him, even agreeing with other people's negative opinions of Klarion so she fits in.

-Beulah follows along with Charity because she fits in easily and because she remembers how bad it was to be outcasted by LT.

-Neither Beulah nor Charity can understand why Klarion chooses to outcast himself

-Ezekiel is just kind of There tm i don't have any thoughts ab him so far.