#stein and Putin

[thingstrumperssay]

Shout out again to the people who were like "I'm voting for Jill Stein because Kamala isn't hard enough against Israel."

[tomorrowusa]

The Phantom Menace.

There should be pushback to anybody telling you that wasting a vote on Jill Stein is a good idea.

If people who foolishly voted for Jill Stein in three states in 2016 had instead voted for Hillary Clinton, Trump would never have been president and Roe v. Wade would still be the law of the land.

Jill Stein is a creature of Putin. She was a nobody in 2015 who somehow sat at Putin's table at anniversary celebrations for RT.

One thing worse than being a dupe is being the dupe of a dupe.

And voting for Jill Stein makes you a loser as well as a dupe. The last time a non-Democrat or non-Republican won the presidency was in 1848. Don't expect that streak to end this year.

The odds of winning the Jackpot prize in the Powerball lottery are 1 : 292,201,338. Those are excellent odds compared to the likelihood of a Jill Stein victory in 2024.

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace gave us Jar Jar Binks. Vladimir Putin gave us Jill Jill Stinks and ultimately Dozy Donny.

The ONLY way to defeat Donald Trump is to vote for Kamala Harris. Voting for Jill Stein or not voting at all would be tantamount to support for Trump.

[tanadrin]

Looks like the SPD may have squeaked it out in Brandenburg, which is good news--interestingly, their polling numbers went way up right before the election, which makes me wonder (and certainly hope) that their comparatively dismal state in other polls is at least partly an artifact of expressive responses or non-response bias ultimately counteracted by voters coming home, at least to oppose the AfD. The Greens and Die Linke got totally wiped out, though. Seems increasingly clear that the BSW is just gonna cannibalize Die Linke until there's nothing left of them.

But does mean that the Landtag is now precisely a 50/50 split between centrist parties (SPD, CDU) and two different flavors of complete asshole (BSW, AfD). Kind of awkward.

[hero-israel]

American Muslims throwing away their vote on pro-Putin Russian-stooge Jill Stein will go down in history as one of the dumbest decisions in coalition-building history:

https://x.com/JewishWonk/status/1833508960600535133

Congratulations, idiots, now you have no place at the table with the Democrats or the Republicans. You're officially politically homeless. And at a time where Islamophobia among the rest of Americans is at 2016-levels, rapidly approaching post-9/11 numbers of Muslim-distrust, broadcasting to everyone that you're willing to risk the well-being of every woman and minority in the country to a second Trump presidency because you're too busy throwing a temper tantrum that Biden won't allow the Arab League to wipe Israel off the map is certainly A Choice.

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[mugiwara-lucy]

So I’ve heard people claim Kamala Harris is a “Zionist” (people throw this term around like people pop in cough drops 🙄) and that we should all vote for Jill Stein (we all know what happened last time with that bright idea 😓), well I’d like you all to take a look at these:

So yeah….a “Zionist”, Kamala Harris is NOT!

[generallemarc]

Michael Flynn and Jill Stein having lunch with Vladimir Putin a year after he conquered Crimea

This is at a celebration event for the 10-year anniversary of the founding of Russia Today, which ought to be called Pravda 2.0. The fact that Flynn went on to unironically believe in QAnon(no, that's not something the left made up, he's sold merch related to it and been on podcasts that push it) and that Stein went on to simp for Maduro in Venezuela and Castro in Cuba doesn't really that surprising anymore, at least not to me. Here they are almost a decade ago, cozying up to the man who'd just conquered the Crimean peninsula and provoked the Donbas Conflict. The third Western politician there, Willy Wimmer, is a former member of the German Bundestag with a long history of denouncing NATO whenever it decided to do its job. And no, he's not a member of Die Linke or AfD, he was a Christian Democrat. Why they let him stay in the party when the party itself was so committed to the alliance I'll never know.

So, Green Party voters, lemme ask-are you alright with voting for a candidate so accepting of dictators? And to anyone familiar with Emir Kusturica and/or his work, the hell is a film director doing here?

[juicetrump2]

Jill Stein is as much of a narcissist as trump. Both are on Putin’s payroll.

[iguessweallcrazyithinktho]

This influx of people saying they're going to vote 3rd party is kinda funny and sad because i know a quarter of you are trying to do the right thing but also your vote doesn't mean shit now

[245inthemorning]

if ur an american adult and didn’t vote for kamala harris for whatever reason i don’t want to hear you complain about anything trump does like

[thingstrumperssay]

I'm sure I've explained this before the election but apparently I didn't dumb it down enough for people.

For all of the dumbass protest voters telling me "It's not my fault I voted third party or didn't vote! You can't just let the Democrats roll over you every time!" here's a reality check:

Third parties will never win an election.

Third parties know that they're just there to steal votes away from one of the actually two candidates because of dumbasses who cries "both sides are just as bad!" like you.

RFK Jr. only ran because he believed that he would take votes away from Kamala, and he dropped out when that didn't work. Jill Stein is fucking buddies with Putin. (And I'm pretty sure her VP is super anti-trans.)

And do you know why they will never win? Because the vast majority of Americans don't put in the fucking research into who they're voting for anyway. They choose based on vibes and grocery prices.

The amount of minorities for Trump that were like "wait I didn't know that he actually hates us!" despite Trump shouting "I hate you!" for ten years is staggering.

They've been having their fellow MAGAts shouting "I hate you" at their fucking face for a decade and they missed it.

So how the fuck do you just assume that every Democrat is going to know how complicit Biden was with Netanyahu (which spoil alert: A lot less complicit than Trump already is!) There are likely people who don't even know that a genocide is even going on over there.

All your "protest vote" to "punish the Democrats" did was not only make the genocide even worse for Palestine, (the thing you claimed you were voting against,) but made thing a lot, LOT worse for Ukraine and a lot worse for the majority of America. (From minorities to people using public services like SNAPP and Medicaid.)

You are just as complicit for every death that happens because of Trump's administration as the people who voted for him.

Fuck you.

[tomorrowusa]

A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Donald Trump. Despite that, people will make idiotic excuses for voting for a guaranteed loser who would help end American democracy as we know it.

If the people who voted for Jill Stein in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania in 2016 had instead voted for Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump would never have been elected and his three fanatical anti-abortion appointees to the US Supreme Court would still be picking their noses as judges at some lower courts.

Seriously, even Jill Stein's adult children won't vote for her. She's a terrible egotistical person. No wonder Trump adores her.

At best she is what might be called a vanity candidate, at worst she's a willing dupe for Putin.

I previously wrote about Jill Stein and the hopelessly impotent US Green Party here and here. Between Jill Stein and Ralph Nader, the Green Party has done more than any other US grouping to harm the environment, human rights, and American democracy this century.

The best way to think of the Green Party...

Get Republicans Elected Every November

Don't let anybody spout support for Jill Stein without challenging them.

P.S. Just a reminder that the last year a non-Democrat or non-Republican was elected president was 1848. And that will not change in 2024.

[vintageseawitch]

i see no lie here. at this point i have no faith in the Green Party. they're all vibes & no substance. they count on leftists & their need for "political purity" & their "principles" to divide them up.

the Green Party sounds great on paper... but they only ever appear like an election cicadas during the presidential election. they never run at local or state levels. they know they will never win. at this point since Republicans are more united than Democrats, it's quite clear that the Green Party isn't there to make sure Republicans lose... it's to make sure DEMOCRATS lose.

your "protest" vote isn't saving shit except maybe giving your ego a pat on the back. you could literally be helping the greater evil to win. do you think anyone will want to take you seriously should Project 2025 be implemented? oh, you sure showed those Democrats! please live in the real world & maybe do a little crash course on American civics to understand how our government works. y'all love theory. but I digress.

please don't stop talking about Project 2025 or Agenda 47. they're the same thing & the reason trump never talks policybis because Project 2025 IS his policy. check your registration status often & vote early if you can. Republicans & other non-Democrats who have decided to vote for Harris - welcome! we got this 💙

[mugiwara-lucy]

Talk about IRRELEVANT and WASHED UP.

Of course I had to chime in 😂

[trump666traitor]

[tomorrowusa]

^^^ a sample ballot somebody created for Nevada. 😆

Funny, but we need to take third party stand-ins for Trump seriously.

We should remind people that 1848 was the last year that a non-Democrat or non-Republican was elected president. That's not going to change in 2024. And as Rachel Maddow said on election night in 2016: "If you vote for somebody who can’t win for president, it means that you don’t care who wins for president."

When one of the two major candidates is preaching hate and violence, we really do need to care who wins for president.

In particular I'm no fan of the so called Green Party. Their candidate in 2000, Ralph Nader, ran with the intention of helping elect George W. Bush. It was part of the old and discredited Leninist theory of "heightening the contradictions". In plain English, that means making life miserable for the masses in the hope that they will turn to your party.

And Bush gave us two wars, two rounds of tax breaks for the filthy rich, and two recessions – including the Great Recession. Bush also ignored warnings of an impending attack by al-Qaeda. He appointed Chief Justice John Roberts and the odious Associate Justice Samuel Alito to the US Supreme Court. Of course, people did not turn to the Green Party for bringing this string of horrors to the country. If anything, Ralph Nader is somewhat like the Gavrilo Princip of the 21st century.

Jill Stein is in some ways worse than Nader. She had been cultivated by the Kremlin to help elect Trump in 2016 and is attempting to do a repeat in 2024.

Seriously, she was a political nobody in 2015 when she was invited to sit at Putin's table at the anniversary of Russia's propaganda outlet RT in Moscow. Also at that table, sitting next to Putin, was Trump conspiracy nut Michael Flynn.

Guess Who Came to Dinner With Flynn and Putin

People on the left who express support for Jull Stein are helping to elect Trump. If the votes which Stein got in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016 had instead gone to Hillary Clinton, Trump would not have been elected. (look up the results in those states!)

So if you notice any delusional folks pushing Jill Stein this year, be sure to give them a heavy dose of reality about the consequences of their actions. People who are helping to put Trump back in the Oval Office are no progressives – regardless of what they call themselves.