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#teeth.txt#watching pmmm for the first time rubbing my hands together evilly#this also happens in triangle (2009). spoilers for triangle (2009)#also pmmm reminds me a lot of undertale in a lot of ways i'm curious to know if toby fox has said anything about being influenced by it#i know he watches anime and stuff so i think it's likely/nearly certain#although maybe pmmm is referencing some other thing i don't know about idk#anyways i've been watching soooo many time loop/travel movies/shows recently#it's such a peak trope for me esp when it's a groundhogs day doing the same thing over and over again type of story
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Queer Themes Masterlist
Colour Me Free (ao3) - realeyesrealize
Summary: Over the next few days Dan draws and redraws a tiny triangle on his bicep every morning with a sharpie, because he��s never been one to take decisions lightly, because he’s still afraid of commitment but the need to have those three lines on his skin is stronger.
Or: queer signaling, a triangle, an earring and Russia.
Come On Down To The Lavender Luck Lounge (ao3) - orphan_account
Summary: Mr. Philip Lester is the suave, flamboyant owner of a queer casino and resort, Lavender Luck Lounge. Mr. Daniel Howell is the uptight and dry accounting manager for the casino.
Demons That Dwell (ao3) - realeyesrealize
Summary: He put those feelings, along with the passing comments that were thrown his way during his teenage years in a closet, as a replacement for himself. But they happened and they left a mark.
or: phil and pride: a character study.
Edelweiss Green (ao3) - orpheusTestifies
Summary: 'The employee had given them a strange look, like it was weird for two people to have an argument about paint colors in the middle of the paint aisle. Dan, despite his attempts to repress everything about his previous employment, was absolutely confident that it was not.'
(Or, in which a house is built, improved upon, and lived in, more or less in that order.)
every ounce of me (ao3) - Tarredion
Summary: Dan and Phil being (mostly) soft on October 19th, 2009—with a bit of introspective Dan (and also him trying to avoid it)
Formless (ao3) - truerequitedlove
Summary: Dan wished he was formless.
Goalie (ao3) - kitkattaylor
Summary: The thing is, everyone thinks they know everything about Dan. They hear enough about him. But they don’t remember the boy who hid in hoodies, who was soft-spoken and embarrassed. They were never witness to his self-doubt, to his neediness, never had the privilege of seeing his genuine smile, his uninhibited laughter.
Of course Dan had changed, but Phil would be (might be) damned if he didn’t believe there was something of the boy Phil used to know still inside him.
If you wanna be like me (ao3) - ottertrashpalace
Summary: A sequel to Experience is Key in two parts, the first of which is a bit serious and the second of which is just more self-indulgent porn
in a simpler world (ao3) - possumdnp
Summary: It was never really an option to make Dil gay.
(or, “how the Sims series [and Dab and Evan’s relationship] hits differently”)
King of the Queens (ao3) - ThoughtaThought
Summary: What if Dan never messaged Phil?
Prism (ao3) - realeyesrealize
Summary: Dan's story, now in colour. A few spoilers: a dark night, Jamaica's orange, the Isle of Man's turquoise and a blue box of Domino's.
Queer Eye for the Non-Straight Guy (ao3) - adorkablephil (kimberly_a)
Summary: Dan watches "Queer Eye" Season 2 episode 1 while on the plane to America and gets emotional
Role Model (ao3) - gorgeousnerd
Summary: "It meant a lot to me," Dan said again, carefully. "You and your friends being who you were. Still does."
Dan reconnects with Nick Grimshaw after he comes out.
rules for lovers (ao3) - dabiideviito
Summary: pride colours: an interpretation
scratch bark bite (oh, love me, i lied) (ao3) - Tarredion
Summary: Music & Drama teacher Dan Howell has a well-known rivalry with his coworker, English teacher Phil Lester.
An unforeseen event flips everything Dan thought he knew about Phil and himself on its head. Slowly but surely, the grudge withers, and the two of them cross the line between enemy and friend. But what will happen when their true intents and feelings get revealed? And was what they had ever really a rivalry? Was it even mutual?
Skirting Around the Subject -- a Phil Lester Gender Struggle (ao3) - TrashFan
Summary: It started as an accident, a series of small disasters that landed Phil standing in a train station in a skirt. From there, things seemed to spiral out of control. A google search here, a shopping trip there, and suddenly Phil is left not knowing who he is and what he wants for himself.
some killer queen you are (ao3) - possumdnp
Summary: Dan’s enjoyed taking a break from YouTube, but for some reason, he still feels like something is missing. Determined to fill the creative void in his life, he decides to try out something new: drag.
the june video (ao3) - possumdnp
Summary: Dan posts “the June Video” as originally planned... in 2018, right in the middle of the Interactive Introverts tour.
two lions (ao3) - calvinahobbes
Summary: Phil fiddles with another toy lion, a copy of the one his gran has taken to pay for. “It needs a mate,” he says thoughtfully, feeling an odd longing suddenly, a weird kind of sadness.
When Do We Get Our Parade? (ao3) - adorkablephil (kimberly_a)
Summary: During his first Pride celebration, Dan is frustrated that even the queer community doesn't seem to understand asexuality and the romantic spectrum
#phanfictioncatalogue#phanfic#phan#phanfiction#dan and phil#masterlists#queer themes#queer themes masterlist
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The Fandom’s Least Favorite Character - an analysis on Kate
Kate is probably the most hated character in the Robin Hood fandom. Not even probably, she is the one who consistently gets the most hate. So, what has she done? Did she commit several murders? Did she kill off a beloved character? Did she do something so problematic that she deserves to burn in hell? Did she do war crimes? No, her biggest sin is existing among unfair circumstances.
The title of this post is kind of a lie. This analysis is not really about Kate as a character, but about how she is written, how the narrative presents her and how this all affects the fandom’s treatment of her. I started writing this because I am sick of seeing so much unnecessary hate for Kate. This is just me commenting on larger trends I have witnessed and a decade’s worth of frustrations finally being written out. If you do recognize yourself from some of my descriptions, I hope that this post will give you something to think about, but just know that this is not meant for any one person in particular.
I’m not going to try to convince anyone to think of Kate as their favorite character. I’m not even trying to make anyone like her. I’m just trying to see why she is so hated within the fandom. So, let’s start off with how it all began. Grab some snacks, you’re going to need them; this is a long one.
Introduction: Is it all Merlin’s fault?
To understand the context in which Kate was introduced to the show, let’s first look at where we left off at the end of season 2. I’ll start with the in-universe changes first. The biggest change obviously is that Gisborne murdered Marian. This altered the whole course of the show. Marian was such a central part of not only the show but also the Robin Hood legends, that at that point it was obvious that things were going to change. Will and Djaq left the show as well. Them leaving is not as dramatic of a change for the show’s narrative since they were not as central as Marian, but they did make up one third of the gang. This meant that there was a need for new characters to be introduced in season 3.
In our world, things changed between seasons 2 and 3 as well. There was a larger gap in production than before (with seasons 1 and 2 coming out in consecutive years and there being a gap year between seasons 2 and 3), and some of the people working on the show left or were replaced. Robin Hood’s spot on the BBC schedule was taken over by Merlin for 2008 so I guess we could blame that show for everything that went wrong in season 3. (I’m obviously joking here but conspiracy theories are welcome.)
The most important change in my opinion – and I think this is even more important to how season 3 turned out than anything that happened in-universe in season 2 – is the fact that Dominic Minghella was no longer writing or producing the show. It’s surprising to me that the fandom as a whole doesn’t ever really talk about this, when in many other fandoms creators or showrunners leaving the show are usually a big deal and mark the end of an era. I myself only found out about Minghella’s departure from the show before season 3 this year, but it seems to explain a lot on why season 3 felt so different from seasons 1 and 2.
With all that out of the way, the stage is set, and it is time to look at how exactly Kate came into the show.
Six boots, two feet
Season 3 starts off with my least favorite episode of the whole show (see my episode ranking for more details). It tries its best to address the events of the season 2 finale, but in a way that will let it quickly get to the season 3 storylines. Unfortunately, the things that happened at the end of the previous season were so important that they would have needed several episodes to cover the full impact of the events.
Kate herself is introduced in episode 2. She is immediately given a reason to hate the villains and join the fight when her brother dies. She doesn’t join the outlaws right away, but when she does, she essentially has to take over three roles at once. I do not think it’s a coincidence that I think episode 4 is Kate’s best episode and that she’s at her best before she actually joins the gang. That is the point in the show when she is allowed to be her own character rather than someone who is trying to fill a void.
Like I said, Kate has three roles to take over; she gets Djaq’s spot in the gang as “the girl one”, Will’s role as “the peasant with personal connections to the people’s suffering” (and interestingly, since Kate’s family is around, her connection could have been even stronger than Will’s) and Marian’s as “the love interest”. Since the season 2 finale got rid of both of the only female characters in the show, it was inevitable that they would eventually be replaced if the show wanted to include any romantic storylines (it was, after all, 2009, so queer representation was out of the question). With three pairs of boots to fill, and only two feet, it should not come as a surprise to anyone that Kate can’t possibly do it all alone. The show does introduce Tuck and Isabella as well to help fill the gaps, but I think Kate gets labeled as “the replacement” far more often than the other two.
A triangle without a base is just an angle
Kate had all the potential for a good plotline. Her brother died, making her hungry for revenge, yet this part of her is only sprinkled in every now and then instead of being a part of her character arc. Instead, she is made a part of not one, not two, but three love triangles.
I’ll start with the Much/Kate/Allan one. Spoiler alert: it doesn’t actually exist. All sides of this “triangle” are… weird. The writers try to frame it as a legitimate love triangle, when only one person in it seems to have any real feelings for another character. Much is shown to be interested in Kate, but we as the audience are never given a reason for why he likes her or even how he fell for her. I guess we’ll just have to take his “I fall in love very easily” (from 2x4) quite literally. Kate does not seem to have any romantic feelings for Much, and she seems oblivious to his feelings as well.
To be honest, I don’t think Kate ever really saw Allan as an option either. At best I could admit that maybe she had a slight attraction to him, but I never got the impression that it was something she would seriously pursue. I don’t think Allan was seriously interested in Kate either. His flirting with her is quite similar to his joke-y flirting with Marian and Djaq. My friend and I talked at length about this, but Allan doesn’t seem like the type of person to flirt for real. This could be a whole analysis on its own, so I won’t go too deep into it here. But I don’t think Allan considers Kate a legitimate romantic option.
So, this “love triangle” only exists in Much’s head and in the narrative the writers try to force on the audience. The Kate/Allan side of it is practically dropped the minute Kate/Robin becomes a thing.
Then there is the Much/Kate/Robin/Isabella triangle that is not a triangle either. I already covered Much/Kate for the most part, so I won’t go into it. Since the Robin/Isabella relationship is not that central to Kate’s character, I won’t bore you and myself by going through it that deeply. The buildup for that relationship is practically nonexistent, and so is the end of it. The whole Robin/Isabella relationship feels forced, because the writers didn’t know how to properly replace Marian while coming up with something new.
Kate’s crush on Robin seems to develop out of nowhere as well. It looks like a pattern when it comes to romances this season. Robin himself doesn’t appear to have any romantic interest towards Kate until he and Isabella “break up”. After that point, their relationship progresses way too fast. It doesn’t help that they seem to have no chemistry between them, and Robin treats Kate like a child and then five seconds later proceeds to make out with her.
Honestly, if Kate had to have a romance with a character on the show (and with it being 2009 obviously they could not fulfil my dreams of Kate being bi but that’s beside the point), it should have been with Archer. The two of them had more chemistry in the 30 seconds they worked together in 3x12 than Robin and Kate had the entire season. It would have also made me far less uncomfortable, since the characters would have been closer in age. Which brings me to my next point.
“There is only one thing worse than a rapist – a child”
How old is Kate supposed to be? Seriously, this show can’t seem to make its mind about her. In general, I do not trust anyone’s age on this show unless it’s been stated somewhere. I know some people try to base the characters’ ages on the actors’ real ages, but to that I say, “fuck that”. Archer is the best example of the fact that this show did not even try to cast people who are the right age, or even look the part. (Seriously, he does not look even close to being 20.)
That being said, Kate is written like she is both 15 and 25 at the same time. I don’t know if the writers had a specific age in mind when they were writing her, but there is a huge difference between those ages. I think it’s the most reasonable thing to assume that she’s in her late teens, maybe at most in her very early twenties. She is still living with her family (I know that most women at the time married in their 20s but it’s not like this show is concerned with historical accuracy) and her behavior is a little immature at times. With all that said, I hope it doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone that I find it incredibly uncomfortable that all the men that are presented as possible love interests to her are fully grown men.
It is the most obvious in Robin and Kate’s scenes. Like I said earlier, Robin treats Kate like a child and speaks to her in a condescending way, only to then make out with her in the same scene. I must wonder why the writers didn’t just age up Kate. I think it would have been more interesting to make her someone who is already married, and instead of losing her brother, it would be her husband that dies. Of course, I would prefer it if Kate didn’t have to be a part of any of these love triangles to begin with but aging her up would have made the dynamics far less uncomfortable. (I do have to also point out the fact that Meg is also written like she is a teen girl. The show then tries to pair her off with Gisborne, who is even older than the men Kate is being forced into love triangles with. So… yikes.)
Let’s take a break, drink some water
Let’s take a moment to recap what we’ve learned here. First of all, Kate entered the show in unfair circumstances and with only two feet to fill three pairs of boots. She was only ever allowed to be a part romance plots, and she didn’t get a proper character arc of her own. In general, the women in this season were not written well (not that seasons 1 and 2 were the height of feminist television either), and they were reduced to being love interests or tools to further the male character’s plotlines. Without Dominic Minghella involved and with a full year between seasons 2 and 3, the show lost some of its charm. Unfortunately, this meant that Kate was not the best written character. But I do not think she deserves all the hate the fandom has given her over the years.
Interlude: Doctor Death
Before I get too much into how the fandom has reacted to Kate over the years, I feel like I should explain my own history with this show and the fandom surrounding it.
I started watching the show when it was first airing here on TV. It was some time during season 2, and once I had seen my very first episode, I watched all the following ones as well. With the finale, there was a problem. I had seen 2x12 and knew that the final episode of the season would air the next week. I was so excited for it, but then my mother decided that we would all go out and have dinner. I kept looking at the clock all day, hoping I would make it home in time. I got home just to see the credits rolling. I’m still a little bitter about it.
After this, I was desperate to see how the season ended. I’ll remind you that this was before it was common for shows to be put online officially. Streaming wasn’t really a thing yet. I did the only thing I knew what to do; I went to YouTube. The thing is, I did not know that what I had been watching was the second season of the show. So, you can imagine my confusion, when I find the very grainy version of 1x13 on YouTube and start watching it. Eventually I figured out my mistake and watched 2x13. At some point I watched season 1 as well, but I honestly don’t have that many memories of when I first watched this show. My clearest memory is being betrayed by my own mother when she forced me to go out for dinner.
Since I do not remember what year this all happened in, I did some googling and if I’m correct, season 2 aired here for the first time in the summer of 2009, with reruns in the summer of 2010. Because I have no other memories for context, I can’t say whether or not season 3 was even out in the UK at the time. Anyway, I did not watch season 3 for a few years. I also didn’t engage with the fandom until 2012, when I joined Tumblr. (A side note: while trying to find out when season 2 aired, I found the episode titles and descriptions. Apparently 2x4’s Finnish title was Doctor Death. There were some real gems on that list but this one was my favorite.)
Over the years, I had read bits and pieces about season 3 on the internet. I was still upset about the end of season 2, and the things I read did not make me want to watch season 3. Sometime in 2012-2013 I finally gave in and watched season 3. I was mostly disappointed by the season as a whole, and as for Kate specifically, I found her annoying. In the fandom, I went along with the Kate-hate that was popular in the fandom at the time.
I did a full rewatch of the show with my friend in 2016–2017. During that time, I didn’t hate Kate as much as I did before. Maybe it was that I had a fresh perspective, maybe it was that I had matured in those few years. Who knows? I was mostly disappointed by the bad writing. Even back then, I wished that Kate had been given a proper chance.
The next proper rewatch of the whole series I did was this past winter. I watched the show in a non-chronological order with someone who had never seen it before. This time, I was angry at the writers and found myself half-ironically becoming a Kate-stan. I also began to really pay attention to how the fandom has talked about her over the years and was unnerved by the hate has she gotten.
So, here we are. Time to take a look at how the fandom has treated Kate. Most of this will be based on my own experiences and memories, so if someone else has a different point of view to offer (especially from the early days of the fandom while the show was still ongoing), feel free to comment! I just wanted to give you my own history with the fandom to show that I have indeed been around for most of the fandom’s history.
The hate-train for Kate-town leaves from platform 4
It seems that from the very beginning, Kate was disliked. I remember reading negative comments about her way back in the early 2010s (I would try to look for examples, but I just spent 30 minutes trying to find out when season 2 first aired here and it’s currently 1am so I am not spending any more time googling right now). There are fics that make fun of her and how badly she was written, and most of the jokes and dislike about season 3 seem to always come back to her. This attitude has been present in the fandom in other contexts as well. Over the years, the hate towards Kate has come and gone along with the popularity of the fandom.
Every once in a while, someone has tried to either write Kate better or even see her as a character that was let down by the writers. Mostly this has not led to any significant change in the fandom’s attitudes. I feel like whenever some of the older fans outgrow their Kate-hate by either just maturing and realizing it’s pointless or just not wanting to waste their time making fun of her, new fans come in and start the whole thing all over again.
I am grateful, however, that the general consensus in the fandom seems to be (at least in the year 2021) that the actress is not to blame for Kate’s faults. It still does make me uncomfortable that people go so far as to cross out her face on pictured etc. just to show how much they hate the character. This hate that Kate gets feels very misogynistic at times and is at least partially the result of the show’s misogynistic writing, but the actress deserves no negativity for playing Kate.
What about Isabella?
One thing that is very interesting to note is that while both Kate and Isabella were newcomers in season 3 and were both replacements for Marian in the sense that they were love interests for Robin, only Kate has received a significant amount of hate over the years. So why does the fandom not hate Isabella?
I think that a big reason for why Isabella is tolerated – not necessarily liked, I haven’t seen too many people genuinely enjoying her character – better than Kate is the way the narrative treats them. Kate is essentially forced down our throats. The show is so desperate for us to like her that they end up making her unlikeable. Isabella, on the other hand, is eventually made into a villain, and thus we’re not meant to sympathize with her in the end anyway. (I could write a whole rant about how Isabella’s treatment in the narrative is bad but let’s not do it here.) Isabella also has the advantage of being Gisborne’s sister, so her backstory ties better into already existing characters. I think it’s reasonable to say that Gisborne being a fan-favorite in certain parts of the fandom doesn’t hurt Isabella’s case either.
Isabella is also only involved with Robin, while the show keeps pairing Kate off (unsuccessfully) with almost half the cast. I think she was written in a way that reminds people of Mary Sues, and considering how fandoms tend to not like characters like that, it’s no surprise that Kate got all the hate she did.
Murder and being annoying – they’re the same thing, right?
So why exactly does the fandom hate Kate so much? Obviously, the writing is a big reason. Season 3 is not written well, which means that Kate is not written well either. She doesn’t really get a storyline of her own, and instead her main purpose is to be someone else’s love interest. I would also add that Kate doesn’t really get hate for her personality. Most of the hate that she gets in terms of character traits revolves around her being annoying, but that’s not really a personality trait. So I think the issue is not her personality, but her role.
The next reason won’t surprise anyone who has spent as much time in fandoms as I have: Fandoms do not like female characters. Well, I should probably rephrase that. Fandoms tend to hate female characters more easily than male characters. I’m not going to analyze too deeply on why this is, as I’m sure someone has already done research on this with references to actual feminist theory. There is a lot of internalized misogyny in fandoms, and female characters get hate for even the slightest wrongdoing, while male characters who commit far worse crimes often have a strong fanbase that will defend them despite these flaws, especially if said male character is played by a conventionally attractive man.
Kate is also blamed for things such as breaking Much’s heart, even though she was never really aware of Much’s feelings in the first place, so it was definitely not intentional. She’s blamed for every small wrongdoing in a way other characters in the show are not. I’ve seen people criticize Kate for small things that she has not even done on purpose. Some of these people then also go on to ignore the fact that Gisborne has committed several murders, taken part in the oppression of the poor and done many many more atrocious things, and paint him as a more sympathetic character than Kate. I understand if you do not like Kate, but it feels misogynistic that the female characters are held to different standards than the male characters. I can already hear some of the Gisborne-fans saying “but I acknowledge his actions and think what he did was wrong! I just find him to be a misunderstood and/or interesting character”. To those people I will just say: Why are you not applying this same logic for Kate? Why are you making outright hateful comments about her? If you don’t like her, why not just ignore her? If you are a Gisborne-fan and have never made these comments about Kate, this obviously doesn’t apply to you. And even if you aren’t a Gisborne-fan, but you do recognize this way of thinking in yourself in regard to some other character, I encourage you to think about it critically. I just used Gisborne as an example since I know he’s perhaps the most popular male character in the fandom (at least if Ao3’s numbers are anything to go by). I’ve also seen a similar attitude from a lot of Allan-fans, though in their case the hypocrisy is often not as obvious, but I’ll return to Allan in a moment.
Many female characters end up getting hate because they get in the way of a popular (often m/m) ship. In this regard, Kate is kind of an outlier since she doesn’t exactly do that, since there isn’t really a ship to get in the way of. Sure, she’s eventually paired off with Robin, but Marian is already dead by the time she shows up, and if people were truly bothered by someone other than Marian trying to get Robin’s attention, they would also hate Isabella with the same intensity. I do think there is one “ship” Kate does come in the middle of, and here’s where we get back to Allan.
Now, the ship Kate does get in the middle of is not in fact canonical. I am of course talking about the popular Allan/OC trope. If you go on Ao3 or Fanfiction.net, you won’t have a hard time finding fics where Allan is paired with an OC. This is understandable, seeing that the show only has four main female characters to begin with, one of whom is already in a love triangle with other people, one of whom canonically ends up with someone else, one of whom is actively hated by the fandom and one of whom just does not interact with Allan.
I want to make it clear that I think it’s fine if people want to come up with their own OCs for the purpose of shipping them with existing characters, it’s just not my thing, especially when those OCs are any level of self-inserts. (I personally don’t feel the need to ship Allan romantically with anyone. I just tend to not like OCs in any fandom.) Since Kate is presented as a potential love-interest for Allan, I think many fans who would rather see Allan with their own character or even themselves view Kate as an obstacle or a threat.
As you may see, this fandom, like many others, unfortunately treats the women in the show differently from the men. Male characters like Gisborne are viewed as redeemable so long as they are attractive, but Kate is irredeemable for… breaking Much’s heart and/or getting in the way of Robin/Marian or Allan/OC? This is something that really bothers me. I don’t mind the fact that people don’t like Kate, it’s the extensive hate she gets that makes me uncomfortable.
Conclusion: Where do we go from here?
Like I said in the beginning, I am not asking anyone to say Kate is their favorite character or to even like her. I just wanted to provide some things for people to think about regarding how they treat female characters. I think it’s about time the fandom took a proper look at itself and critically thought about how it speaks about female characters. It’s 2021, let’s not hate on female characters just for being a little annoying or getting in the way of shipping.
I haven’t seen the fandom analyze that much why season 3 is the way it is. I would love to see some meta about how Dominic Minghella’s departure and other behind the scenes factors contributed to the story and aesthetics of season 3. I would also love to see some actual analysis on the season 3 characters that isn’t focused on tearing them down. If the fandom never made another post about how terrible Kate is without providing any actual reasons, I would be happy. I can sort of understand this immature hatred coming from 15-year-olds, but I’m disappointed to say that I have seen fully grown adults tearing down Kate in this quite misogynistic way. I know that many people do not intend for their dislike of Kate to come across as misogynistic, but it does not erase the fact that that is how many of those hateful comments appear.
I think Kate had a lot of potential. Season 3 had a lot of potential. It is quite a move to kill Marian in the middle of a Robin Hood story, so they had the chance to take the story to all kinds of places. Unfortunately, the season 3 we ended up with was not of the same quality as the previous seasons. Instead of just hating on the characters or story in general, I think we should focus on really analyzing the season, and even coming up with our own ways of improving it. Many people have already done this (though unfortunately many of these attempts also include thinly veiled hatred towards Kate. It’s your story, why are you not treating her any better than the actual writers of the show?), but there’s always room for more takes.
At this point I will shamelessly advertise my own “Kate should have been the new Nightwatchman” theory and my Nightwatchman-fic. I wrote the latter in a way that would let it be a part of canon if necessary. I think that by refocusing the story and shifting the way we read the text, we can find new aspects of season 3, and perhaps even enjoy it more. That is what happened to me during my latest rewatch, and all it took was watching it in a non-chronological order and talking about it with someone who had never seen the show.
I’m not trying to gatekeep the fandom and say that only thought-provoking analysis or fix-it fanfiction is allowed. I just feel like people should be more conscious of the message they are sending out when they write hateful comments about Kate, censor her name or even cross out her face from pictures. Is it actually funny? Are you contributing something to the conversation? Is it actual criticism or just hate for the sake of hate? You don’t have to start writing posts in the defense of Kate, but you can just start ignoring her. It’s not that difficult. It’s fine to make jokes, but let’s start thinking about what our jokes say about us.
I once more want to emphasize that this is not a callout post I wrote with any one person in mind. So, if you felt offended when I was talking about Gisborne-fans, Allan/OC-shippers or Kate-haters in general, I can assure you that this post was not about you personally. This is not about any individual person. I’m just commenting on trends in the fandom I have noticed over the years. I don’t think any of you have committed any sins or that you need to be cancelled. I just hope that if you did feel guilty reading this, you’ll realize that maybe this post was something you definitely needed to read. As a woman, I would love it if this fandom worked on getting rid of its internalized misogyny.
I’m not claiming to be right on all of this, in fact I have a lot of bad opinions as well. I hope this post has provided people with things to think about. Feel free to use this as a starting point for your own meta or analysis. I’ll end my rant here, and leave you with this thought:
Kate had a lot of potential to be a good character. She did not let us down. The writers did.
#robin hood bbc#bbc robin hood#I'm not gonna tag any characters just to be polite#this is less of an analysis and more like a rant#the second half really is something#90% of this was written at night so it shows#anyway I hope every kate-hater reads this
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“Invincible”, Season 1 (2021) Review
Somehow both very cool and very fucking stupid :D
About Created and written primarily by Robert Kirkman (principle writer for The Walking Dead comic and TV show), this Young Adult cartoon basically synthesizes a number of comic book characters (e.g., Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Hellboy, Wonder Woman, Gambit) and tries to balance their heroism with cynical twists and dark realities. It's an exercise like Brightburn (2019) in that it mirrors existing comic writing all too closely in order to make violent twists. The cool stuff arrives pretty much immediately. You can tell right away that the physics have some level of realism, and it quickly gets serious because of this. The easy comparison would be to The Boys (also by Amazon, also about violent heroes, and also very well-produced). So, if you like The Boys (2019–), you'll probably like Invincible only a little less.
(( Some spoilers but nothing too specific ))
Wrong Focus But, the stupid stuff comes from the same error that the Kick-Ass movie (2010) made: it focuses on the wrong person(s). In Kick-Ass, the error was focusing on.. well.. "Kick-Ass", an irredeemable loser and waste of screen time. Invincible makes the same mistake, focusing on.. well.. "Invincible", a (so far) irredeemable loser and waste of screen time. So, despite its virtues, this show cannot escape that it made the decision to go for the Young Adult viewing demographic. It reminds me of Alita: Battle Angel (2019) in that way too: some very cool adult concepts ruined by the dramatic devices of unrepentant teenage stupidity and irrelevance. I didn't even like that stuff when I was a teenager, though Jordan Catalano gets a pass.
Main Cast and Characters The supporting characters were also very stupid. The most annoying was definitely Amber Bennett (voiced by the otherwise cool Zazie Beetz from Deadpool 2 (2018) and Joker (2019)),
who is supposed to be attractive somehow to Mark Grayson ("Invincible", voiced by Steven Yeun, who played Glenn on The Walking Dead)
despite the fact that she constantly judges him, fails to understand him, often fails to give him any kind of benefit of the doubt, and continues to scowl at him and be hurtful towards him even when she has information that should change her outlook towards him. And because she is part of the love triangle shared between herself, Invincible/Mark, and "Atom Eve"/Samantha (voiced by the awesome Gillian Jacobs from Community (2009–2014)),
audiences simply have to bear with it that Amber's annoying character will be present and wasting time until Mark can realize that Amber is in fact toxic and that Eve actually understands him and can improve him in more positive directions. That love triangle should have been a 20-minute distraction, but I'm guessing that it will eat up a season or two more, especially if the writers become cowardly and fail to change things for fear of messing up a perceived "winning" formula. In my ideal story line, they would skip ahead 10 years, drop the teen drama, the love triangle, and the stupid jokes and have Invincible and Eve paired in defense of Earth, with the main tension being from their worry that the other would be horribly gored in front of them during lethal fights against cosmic enemies ;)
Aside, I am aware of Amber’s motivation for being a bad person, I just think her justification is not based in understanding, empathy, and a regard for the gravity of Invincible’s situation. In a strict political sense, Invincible should not commit a lie of omission by keeping her in the dark about his identity — even if for the “noble lie” reason of protecting her — but in a real sense, he is a fucking teenager who just developed his super powers. For her to pretend that he should reveal his entire identity to her — a potentially transformative and even dangerous decision — after a few months of teenage romance paints an absurd portrait of her mind. It does, however, align her with Omni-Man, because where Omni-Man forces Invincible to become an adult in the fighting sense (pushing with full force early on), Amber forces Invincible to become an emotional adult by getting him to understand that toxic people such as herself need to be given boundaries — and he needs to learn to clearly delineate and communicate his real desires. By knowing that he does not want Amber, people who regiment his free time, or people who do not suit him, for instance, he can realize why Eve was an obvious decision: Eve understands, can make time when they have time, and will let him find his decisions. Part of a coming-of-age story tends to be realizing what one actually wants, and Invincible’s hesitation in telling Amber his identity shows that he does not truly want her. This separates Invincible from, say, Spider-Man, who avoided telling Mary Jane his identity not because he did not want her but because he wanted at all costs to protect her.
The next most annoying character has to be Debbie Grayson (voiced by TV-cancer Sandra Oh and who luckily was not animated to look like the real Sandra Oh and who should have been voiced instead by Bobby Lee due to Lee's successful MadTV parody of Sandra Oh).
Debbie basically fills the role of Skyler in Breaking Bad, except that Debbie's character tends to be slightly more understanding before her inevitable and toxic Skyler-resentment and undermining behavior. Despite having an 8-episode arc of change, Debbie's character flips too quickly and lacks the empathy and Omni-Man motive-justifying that would make her interesting (the comic's development may vary). For instance, if she refused to believe that Omni-Man meant his own words, that would make her empathetic and perhaps virtuous even if misled, but instead she dropped their "20 years" of understanding after viewing Omni-Man in action, which makes her appear shallow, easily manipulated, and unsympathetic. That was a definite "Young Adult" genre move because it shows immaturity by the writers to break apart a bond of 20 years so quickly. Mediocre teens might accept such a fissure because their lives have not yet seen or may not comprehend that level of time, but adults know that even long-standing and problematic relationships (which, beyond the lie, Omni-Man's and Debbie's was not shown to be) take a lot of time to break — even with lies exposed.
Omni-Man The biggest show strength for me was of course Omni-Man, who in a success of casting was voiced by J.K. Simmons in a kind of reprisal of Simmons' role as Fletcher from Whiplash (2014).
The Fletcher/Omni-Man parallel shows through their being incredibly harsh but extremely disciplined and principled, forcing people to become beyond even their own ideal selves (this via Omni-Man's tough-love teaching of Invincible — comically, Omni-Man was actually psychologically easier on Invincible than Fletcher was on Whiplash's Andrew character). Despite the show's attempts to villainize Omni-Man, he, like Fletcher and also like Breaking Bad's Walter White, becomes progressively more awesome, eventually representing a Spartan will, an unconquerable drive, and a realistic and martial understanding of a hero's role.
To the show's credit, while it wrote Omni-Man to be outright genocidal and from a culture of eugenicists (again, Spartan), they could not help but admire him and his "violence" and "naked force" (for a Starship Troopers reference), giving him a path to redemption. That redemption comes in part because — despite the show's attempt to be often realistic and violent — its decision to be directed at young adults via dumb jokes, petty relationship drama, the characters’ reckless lack of anonymity and security in their neighborhood (loudly taking off and landing right at the doorstep), and light indy music also made the portrayed violence far less literal. With a less literal violence, the real statement becomes not that Omni-Man really did kill so many people (though he certainly did kill those people within the show's plot) but that he was symbolically capable of terrible violence but could be reformed for good. That's the shortcoming with putting violence under demographic limitations. If it's a PG-13 Godzilla knocking down cities, the deaths in the many fallen skyscrapers don't matter so much (the audience will even forgive Godzilla for mass death if it happens mostly in removed spectacle), whereas if it's Cormac McCarthy envisioning a very realistic fiction, every death rides the edge of true trauma.
By showing light between the real and the symbolic, it is much easier to identify and agree with Omni-Man. For instance, when Robot (voiced by Zachary Quinto of Heroes and the newer Star Trek movies)
shows too much empathy for the revealed weakness of "Monster Girl" (voiced by Grey Griffin), the audience may have thought, "Pathetic," even before Omni-Man himself said it. And this because Omni-Man knows that true and powerful enemies (including himself) will not hesitate to use ultra-violence against these avenues of weakness. "Invincible" can make his Spider-Man quips while in lethal battles, but he does so while riding the edge of death — something that Omni-Man has to teach Invincible by riding him to the brink of his own.
Other Cast/Characters and Amazon's Hidden Budget It was impressive how many big-name actors were thrown into this — a true hemorrhage of producer funding. Amazon has so far hidden the budget numbers, perhaps because they don't want people to know that the show (like many of its shows) represents a kind of loss-leader to jump-start its entertainment brand.
Aside from those already mentioned, the show borrows a number of actors from The Walking Dead (WD), including.. • Chad L. Coleman ("Martian Man"; "Tyreese" on WD),
• Khary Payton ("Black Samson"; "Ezekiel" on WD),
• Ross Marquand (several characters; "Aaron" on WD)
• Lauren Cohan ("War Woman"; "Maggie" on WD)
• Michael Cudlitz ("Red Rush"; "Abraham" on WD)
• Lennie James ("Darkwing"; "Morgan" on WD)
• Sonequa Martin-Green ("Green Ghost"; "Sasha" on WD)
There were also connections to Rick and Morty and Community, not just with Gillian Jacobs but also with... • Justin Roiland ("Doug Cheston"), who voices both Rick and Morty in Rick and Morty,
• Jason Mantzoukas ("Rex"),
• Walton Goggins ("Cecil"),
• Chris Diamantopoulos (several characters),
• Clancy Brown ("Damien Darkblood"),
• Kevin Michael Richardson ("Mauler Twins"), and
• Ryan Ridley (writing)
That's a lot of overlap. They even had Michael Dorn from Star Trek: TNG (1987–1994) (there he played Worf) and Reginald VelJohnson from Family Matters (1989–1998) and Die Hard (1988), and even Mark Hamill. Pretty much everyone in the voice cast was significant and known. Maybe Amazon got a discount for COVID since the actors could all do voice-work from home? ;)
Overall Bad that it was for the Young Adult target demo but good for the infrequent adult themes and ultra-violence. Very high production value and a good watch for those who like dark superhero stories. I have heard that the comic gets progressively darker, which fits for Robert Kirkman, so it will likely be worth keeping up with this show.
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Vampire Diaries Universe: The 25 Best Characters, Ranked

For the first time since 2009, we’re entering a fall season devoid of any new offerings from the Vampire Diaries universe. And like Stefan Salvatore without his daily diet of forest friends, we’re insatiable.
Like so many longtime TVD enthusiasts (those of us to whom the word “thesmatos” really means something!), we’ve spent much of quarantine revisiting the weird, wonderful universe — from Mystic Falls to New Orleans and back again. We’re suddenly spending a lot of time with characters we haven’t seen in years. And we’re having a lot of feelings about them.
In celebration of the franchise’s 11th anniversary, TVLine has assembled another totally non-controversial ranking, this time of the 25 best characters from the Vampire Diaries universe — a category that also includes familiar faces from The Originals and Legacies. (In Legacies‘ defense, the franchise’s latest offshoot hasn’t been around as long to endear itself to us, but that didn’t stop four Salvatore School students from making their way onto our list.)
In lieu of new content from the TVD universe this fall, TVLine is looking back at our 25 favorite characters from the entire franchise, including stand-out favorites from its two spinoffs.
SPOILER ALERT: This ranking discusses major plot points from all three shows. If you haven’t finished The Vampire Diaries (Season 1-8), The Originals (Season 1-5) or Legacies (Season 1-2), proceed at your own risk. Don’t say we didn’t warn you!
25. VINCENT GRIFFITH
Thanks to the magic of body swapping, the Mikaelson siblings have inhabited multiple physical vessels throughout the years, but none have remained in the family’s orbit quite like this Southern gentleman. Powerful, thoughtful and downright Shakespearean in his delivery (Yusuf Gatewood, ladies and gentlemen!), Vincent always has the greater good in mind. And as we learned in The Originals’ series finale, he helped Freya and Keelan pass that good along to the next generation.

24. LANDON KIRBY
Even though we’re still getting to know him, there’s already so much to like about this pure-hearted Mystic Falls townie. Not only is he the franchise’s first-ever phoenix, but he also looks like he could pass for Damon and Elena’s offspring — and that’s never a bad thing. We could tell he had a long future in this universe the moment he danced with Hope in The Originals’ final season. (So far, so good!)
23. JENNA SOMMERS
Like so many paved paradises, we didn’t fully appreciate what we had with Jenna until she was gone. Her death marked the end of Elena’s innocence — which is saying a lot, considering she was still mourning her own parents when The Vampire Diaries began. And if we’re being honest, Jenna was the ghost we were most excited to see again in the series finale. (For the record, Joseph Morgan has apologized on Klaus’ behalf for killing Jenna several times.)
22. TYLER LOCKWOOD
The First Son of Mystic Falls was kind of a jerk when we met him in The Vampire Diaries‘ first season. He was arrogant, aggressive and reckless — so it actually made perfect sense when he was revealed to be a werewolf. Fortunately, Michael Trevino’s character developed a little more nuance from that point on, especially via his Romeo and Juliet romance with Caroline. (After everything that’s happened since 2013, can you believe that they were once in a love triangle with Klaus?)
21. JEREMY GILBERT
Elena’s little brother (er, cousin?) went through a number of different, wonderful phases during his tenure in Mystic Falls. We loved him in The Vampire Diaries’ earlier seasons as the human embodiment of all things emo (he literally dated a ghost!), and we… um… appreciated his unexpected evolution into a shirt-ripping, wood-chopping vampire hunter.
20. CAMILLE ‘CAMI’ O’CONNELL
The Clarice Starling to Klaus’ Hannibal Lecter, this brave bartender was able to tap into the show’s darkest, most complicated character’s psyche in ways that no one named Mikaelson (or even Forbes) ever could. She helped him conquer a number of his demons in the few short years they spent together on The Originals, and like most people who play a significant role in Klaus’ life, she suffered the consequences. (Side note: Are we the only ones who really dug Cami as a vampire? Justice for that short-lived story arc.)
19. SHERIFF ELIZABETH FORBES
Of The Vampire Diaries’ many maternal figures, none put us through the emotional ringer quite like Caroline’s mother. We weren’t her biggest fans in the show’s early seasons, given her penchant for hunting the undead (including her own daughter), but hey, what was this show if not an endless series of redemption arcs? Also, if you don’t get a little choked up when Caroline felt her mom’s presence in the series finale, you don’t have a soul.
18. FREYA MIKAELSON
The long-lost fifth Mikaelson sibling was a little rough around the edges when we first encountered her on The Originals, but the poor woman was in the midst of escaping a centuries-long imprisonment, so we cut her a little slack. And we’re glad we did, because Freya has since become one of the strongest, most inspiring and all-around likable characters in the Vampire Diaries canon. #FreelinForever
17. MARCEL GERARD
While it’s easy to get swept up in Marcel’s charm and swagger (we were robbed of a second karaoke number, by the way!), it’s important to remember just how far back his time with the Mikaelson family goes. When you consider that Klaus literally freed Marcel from slavery and raised him to lead New Orleans as his right-hand vampire, it adds a whole other layer of tension to their passionate power struggle on The Originals. Though he’s treated like an unofficial Mikaelson sibling, Marcel often feels like more of a Mikaelson than Kol — and definitely more than Finn.
16. REBEKAH MIKAELSON
Arguably the funniest (and most glamorous) member of the Mikaelson family, the woman Damon once referred to as “Barbie Klaus” never fai to tell it exactly like it was, beginning with her thoughts on then-lovebirds Stefan and Elena. (“Honestly, I don’t get you two as a couple.”) And Bex only became more complex as the years went on, from her desperate desire for humanity to her undeniable love for Marcel. Just don’t call her insane — she prefers “spontaneous.”

15. ALARIC SALTZMAN
In hindsight, Alaric’s journey from hot history teacher to hot headmaster of a supernatural school makes perfect sense. Still, it was impossible to predict back in The Vampire Diaries’ first season just how much of an impact the man formerly known as Warner Huntington III would have on this franchise. A drinking buddy to some, a father figure to others and a literal father to a lucky pair, Alaric has truly woven himself into the fabric of this universe like few others. (That said, we still wouldn’t recommend dating him if you value your life.)
14. SHERIFF MATT DONOVAN
Only one full-blooded human survived all eight seasons of The Vampire Diaries, and you’re looking at him. The pinnacle of mortal goodness, this blue-eyed patriot hasn’t always been on the same page as his vampire brethren, but that’s only because he didn’t want to see any more his friends and family get eaten. And we can sympathize with that!

12-13. LIZZIE AND JOSIE SALTZMAN
Asking us to choose between Jo (by way of Caroline) and Alaric’s daughters is an impossible task, which is ironic, considering the Gemini twins are literally destined for a fight to the death on their 22nd birthday. Besides, these sisters have always felt like a package deal, from the moment we witnessed their birth on The Vampire Diaries to the day we reunited with them as teenagers on Legacies. (They also popped up in The Originals’ penultimate episode, putting them in the prestigious category of characters who have appeared in all three series.) Despite their inherent connection, Lizzie and Josie really have grown into two very different people, a journey we hope will continue for years (and shows) to come.
11. MALACHAI ‘KAI’ PARKER
The fact that this remorseless, pork rind-loving psychopath ranks so high on our list speaks volumes about actor Chris Wood, who brought a refreshingly sassy vibe to The Vampire Diaries’ sixth season. The guy was so likable, fans were even ‘shipping him with Bonnie… as if that poor girl hadn’t been through enough already! You also have to give Kai points for longevity — even after his head got knocked off, he managed to make two encore appearances on TVD (Season 8) and Legacies (Season 2).

10. HOPE MIKAELSON
As we mentioned with Lizzie and Josie earlier, we feel like we’ve watched Hope grow up before our eyes… because we have. Given the epic circumstances surrounding her conception, birth and upbringing, an adult version of this character had a lot of hype to live up to, and Danielle Rose Russell has proven herself more than up to the challenge. Imbued with her parents’ best qualities, Hope’s power and passion make her both a formidable foe and an invaluable ally. Besides, Legacies showed us what the world would be like without Hope, and it was not a good place.

9. HAYLEY MARSHALL
We can’t even think about this fierce, fearless mama wolf without shedding a single tear. Hayley’s story was basically one long tragedy, from her complicated marriage with Jackson to her tumultuous relationship with Elijah. And then there was her untimely demise in The Originals’ final season, which… actually, let’s not talk about that. From the moment she gave birth, Hayley’s heart belonged to Hope, and it was in her most extreme maternal moments that Hayley’s true strength was on display. That’s how we’ll remember her.
8. ELIJAH MIKAELSON
Suits? Pressed. Hair? Immaculate. Vocabulary? Thicc. With his smooth moves and cunning intellect, Klaus’ extremely respectful brother could do it all — well, except keep the people he loved from meeting horrific ends. (Seriously, this guy’s track record for dead lovers is right up there with Alaric’s.)
7. BONNIE BENNETT
Simply put, this is the witch you want in your corner when things go south. Endlessly powerful and selfless to a fault, Kat Graham’s character spent eight agonizing seasons sacrificing herself — often literally, hence her multiple deaths — in order to keep her friends and family safe. No amount of bloody noses or dead boyfriends could stop this badass from crushing her enemies.

6. CAROLINE FORBES
Getting smothered to death was honestly the best thing that could have happened to Caroline, who evolved from a basic, boy-crazy cheerleader into a bad-ass vampire overnight. And that was just the first phase of her franchise-long evolution into the empowered, globe-trotting mother of two she is today. She’s also responsible for all of The Vampire Diaries’ memorable musical moments, from her sweet song for Matt to her devastating performance at Sheriff Forbes’ funeral. (Now if only she’d pay her old pals at Legacies a visit…)

5. ELENA SALVATORE
She may not have Katherine’s chaotic flare, but Elena deserves credit for carrying much of The Vampire Diaries’ dramatic and romantic weight for six years. And for that pink hair she experimented with in Season 4. On top of that, Elena also rolled with the punches better than almost anyone. (You’re vampires? I’m a doppelgänger? Now I’m a vampire? Now I’m human again? Now I’m in a coma? Sure, let’s do this.)

3-4. DAMON AND STEFAN SALVATORE
Two sides of the same brooding coin, these brothers were as proficient at breaking hearts as they were at breaking necks. And while their love triangle with Elena will remain the stuff of TV legend, their relationship as brothers was revealed to be the real heart of The Vampire Diaries in its final two seasons. Honestly, it’s too hard to choose between them, so we’re not going to.
2. KATHERINE PIERCE
Come on, when were you not excited to see this leather-clad lunatic on your screen? Deliciously twisted and infinitely more interesting than her human doppelgänger, Katherine was behind many of The Vampire Diaries’ most jaw-dropping twists, from her iconic encounter with John(’s bloody fingers) to her long-awaited return in the series finale. Honestly, putting Katherine on hell’s throne in Season 8 was merely a formality — she was always a queen.

1. KLAUS MIKAELSON
The man, the myth, the legend. To think that the monster who slaughtered poor, defenseless Aunt Jenna on The Vampire Diaries is the same person who gave it all up to save his daughter on The Originals… well, there isn’t a clap slow enough to commend that kind of growth. (Again, Joseph Morgan is very sorry about the whole Jenna thing!) By the time Klaus evaporated on the streets of New Orleans, it felt like we had explored every conceivable nook and cranny of his existence, from his traumatic childhood to his fatal romances — and we relished every second of it.
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But isn't the one who forget about Zack the devs not us they were so bias toward Aerith all these years as someone who's a big fan of Zack I felt so disappointed and furious at them because Zack gave his life to Cloud and Aerith gave her life to save the planet but all I saw is his over the top guilt over Aerith heck even the op of AC had him bury her in the water where's Z ?? No where to be found it was only in the complete version , what IAM saying it not us who keep forgetting about Zack(1)
Not to mention all these years despite Tifa who ended up with him SE kept promoting A as the love interest while Tifa kept being negelating by SE so it not only Z but T too , that why I'm happy right now with their treatment to T after years of being so bias toward A and forgetting what Z done to C and T ,but I know I can't trust SE i know what they're going to do for next parts I do know one thing they are going to hype A to the last scene of her and leave T to the last as usual (2)
Hi anon.
I’ve never felt they were biased towards Aerith. Talking to Japanese fans, Tifa is by far more popular overall in Japan. Worldwide she’s had more cameo appearances. The only other FFVII character that has more than her is Cloud. When polls that are actually controlled (not bottable), Tifa is more popular.
Google trends shows that Cloti has always been more popular - since 2004, which is the furthest back it’ll go. I don’t fully trust it since I don’t think it takes every area into account, but it is interesting to see the stark difference.
There will always be fan service - and in the case of things like Airship Brigade (I think that’s what its called) you can have whatever couple you want. It’s for fun, but it’s not canon.
I think that’s where people can get mixed up. There’s fanon/fanservice and canon. Canon doesn’t show any type of romantic relationship between Cloud and Aerith. In fanon you can have this happen - but that’s because it’s fanon. I can also make Clack/Zakkura legit in fanon. It’s not canon.
There’s actually more evidence for Clack/Zakkura and AerTi than there is for CA, but that’s not for this post.
I think unfortunately some antis spread a lot of false information online and they really do make it seem like its their life’s work to do this. New fans can get confused and discouraged and slowly learn what the truth is. Yesterday I saw a tweet that somebody just finally found out that Maiden Who Traveled the Planet and Dismantled weren’t actually canon resources, but had been told by people online that they were.
Fans of C/A - especially Tifa haters - will make people think that Tifa is hated by SE and everyone else. It’s just not true. SE is going to go with where the money is in most cases. Nojima and the team want to make sure their story is clear now. OG, Advent Children, and Case of Tifa are usually very misunderstood. If you put ALL of the compilation together and actually look at it as it should be looked at, all of this makes sense.
In the case of Zack, he’s a very popular character. I think timing can cause a problem here, and I just had this argument last night.
Dirge of Cerberus came out in 2006.
Crisis Core - 2007
Advent Children Complete - 2009
Revised Cases in OtWtaS - 2009
People will argue since in DoC it’s not explicitly stated that Cloud and Tifa are lovers/romantically involved, that it must not have ever worked out. The devs purposely put Crisis Core out. They purposely redid parts of Advent Children and their novels because they realized people had SEVERELY misunderstood things.
Zack isn’t mentioned in DoC because at the time he was only mentioned in OG briefly and shown briefly during the Lifestream and then if you go and find the hidden/optional scene from the Shinra Mansion basement.
The reason Tifa is called a childhood friend in things like user guides is because the big reveal on what is actually going on with Cloud is the plot twist. Why would they freely advertise that? It’s a big reveal, it’s supposed to be a surprise. In the case of DoC’s guide, they get stuck on that and the “engraved in heart” which is actually “who he’ll never forget” in the English version - either way - why would he forget her? She was killed in front of him. He tried to kill her twice.

The other thing... people really forget how much guilt Tifa has. It’s just not heavily talked about and a LOT of people haven’t read Case of Tifa. I think it was one of the best things I did because it filled in some concerns I had over Advent Children.
So Zack isn’t forgotten - but they do keep his stuff sealed because it’s part of the ending of Remake Part 1. Zack was WRITTEN in so much for the Famitsu poll, they had to censor his name because of spoilers. He wasn’t even an option and people still got him int he top 10 - that’s how well liked he is.
A lot of people also will flat out deny Crisis Core. I saw this just as recently as yesterday as well. It’s hard to navigate at times. I think the only way I can keep myself sane is to ONLY refer and look at canon materials. To ONLY use non-optional scenes in arguments.
Even spin-off games like Kingdom Hearts end up showing Cloti. People said he was looking for Aerith, but he was actually looking for Sephiroth. People say Aerith was his light, but Nomura confirmed that Tifa was his light.
These two here are good to go over the KH and some other stuff.
The Love Triangle of FFVII - LS.net
Cloud and Tifa in Kingdom Hearts - by @danseru-kun
In conclusion, the devs love Tifa too much to be neglecting her. The internet is a den of monsters. It’s like SOLDIER. It’s messy, it’s brutal, and full of lies. You can think something is more popular just by reading a biased person’s blog or going to certain websites. They’re very good at swaying you. Look at official materials, what games have been released where Cloud and Tifa have cameos, and decide for yourself on it.
I think Mobius also has a whole One True Love thing where Cloud is trying to remember something and it’s heavily implied that it’s Tifa. The little fairy thing actually is the one trying to help him with this. @silver-wield may have some more info on this.
Hey, Silver, I think I picked a good summoning gif for you. :)
#cloti#ff7r#ff7#tifa lockhart#zack fair#cloud strife#cloud x tifa#zerith#kingdom hearts#ff7 spoilers#kingdom heart spoilers
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babe we need to hear your vampire diaries opinions
love of my life thank u for asking idk how well this will go down or if my opinions are controversial so i'll try to be brief also i do not mean to offend anyone if this show is ur ride or die sdffsd
first of all it may or may not come as a surprise that the best and only valid character imo is damon. he took so much shit from everyone and yeah he did bad things but they ALL did and the only one who was ALWAYS taking shit for their mistakes was damon. like how many times did anyone on that show say... “wow...damon Actually did the right thing for once”. like listen he does the right thing a lot u guys just give him shit everytime he fucks up even a little. like his heart is the right place and they all know it they just refuse to accept it. hated stefan and his holier than thou attitude. elena...........ok. somehow the most unlikable main character?? like yes her life is shit and everyone she loves dies but she’s also a hypocrite and everyone else is always failing her apparently but she can literally do no wrong? ok. she and stefan actually did make sense together. bonnie was always doing her very best but life just had to keep knocking her down huh. alaric is fine caroline is whatever everyone else was just There
as far as storyline............jesus. To Be Fair i will say that i had never seen the show until a few months ago. IF i had seen it when it was priemiering i may have liked it better just because i was the same age as they all were in the show and it was of course vampire time 2009 so i will say that. however i really truly hated the storylines. like it was Painful for me to just finish the show i had to force myself to finish it. the first season was just a fine cw first season and then it just got worse and worse and worse. the love triangle yeah we all know about that but it was PAINFUL watching her go from one brother to the other. all the shitty relationships aside IMO the worst aspect of the ENTIRE show was the fucking humanity switch oh my god i couldn't stand that. first of all unrealistic for vampires imho idk the concept just doesn't vibe with me. but god..the back and forth...oh he turned it off oh he's back on oh she turned it off oh we have to save her literally we get it. SECOND worst part was the arc about the cure. unrealistic as well and damon was right when he said he didn't want to take it. i actually didn't hate katherine sldfkj. but the doppelganger thing went on for way too long. the entire last two seasons i wont even talk about them they didn't even happen that was so completely off course. i thought the show would get better when nina left but holy shit was i wrong i actually missed her. the ENDING. ok spoilers but in general i despise endings that kill everyone in the end and they all go to heaven or whatever like another cw show we all hate.....and i hated this too like we just spent 8 seasons watching these people. give them an actual ending not Death. also what happened to bonnie in season 8.....despicable. also confusing is how tf matt survived until the very end when he was completely useless. other than that i literally cannot remember what else happened because it just went on for too long.
i mean?? idk it Could have been good i just don't know why i hated it so much. like i think it was the mix of elena hating vampires so much it was the whole colonial town crap which i guess makes sense i just hated it. it's like ok....move to a new town. it was the back and forth with the original vampires and the hybrids and the hunters and i just don't know. u would think i would've loved it idk the best part for me was the music throwbacks and the 2010 outfits lmao
#anyway i wish i had liked it i really wanted to i just couldnt. again it could just be because i didnt see it in the right time period#for me to really be into it but i just did not like it. the characters the story just exhausting
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In the Tall Grass Review
*No spoilers - I don't think*
Vincenzo Natali is my all time favourite horror director. From step one, in his films, you know the characters are doomed. It's like they step into a invisible snare without realizing it and for the next two hours it tightens at a snails pace to close around their throat's.
Unlike most horror films the character's are required to think. They don't just instinctively react or follow the normal procedure of the situation. That won't save them here. So they have to strategise and decide what's important to them. Between that and being placed under high physical stress their true personality comes out. They act how they want to act rather than how they think they should act to get people to like them.
The viewer is also given space to think. The pace is never rushed but steady. It's the kind of fear you feel walking through an empty parking structure at night. Given that time to think and breathe, your mind suggest worse horrors that might happen to you than you can be shown but still you walk through it sure, logically, nothing will happen to you.
There were a few bits that felt unnecessary to me. I've never really understood the need to sicken a viewer. A good scare makes you feel alive but is there really that big an audience that enjoy being made to feel queasy? These were only small moments though in an otherwise clever film.
It is my suggestion that you watch this film if you were a fan of:
Cube (1997)
Triangle (2009)
Channel Zero
Also if you were a fan of Into the tall grass and wanted something else to watch the above are all fantastic.
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I haven't watched ml since season 1, I intended to start watching it again but everyone says it's gotten kind of bad. Could you please update me?
I’ll be entirely honest, I haven’t really been watching the episodes as such. I don’t bother blocking out spoilers so between them and just reading the synopsis for the episodes, I just pick and chose which episodes I want to watch.
But from what I’ve heard and read, I believe that Miraculous Ladybug is Good Idea, Dodgy Execution.
(This got longer than I thought. And a lot saltier. I’ve tried to keep it more critical than just salt. The rest is undercut and I think I’ve explained why everyone says it’s gotten bad. If you just want an update, scroll until the first line cut.)
Personally, I was never a fan of the Episodic Arcs Only format they went for. I don’t think it suits the type of show they were going for and it feels sloppy and like a... (there’s a word I’m looking for but the only that comes to mind is Shortcut). I could let it be for Season 1 (since it was the first season, they’re learning and we’re learning) but Season 2, for me, kinda failed to bring it up. The Collector, which was the first episode of Season 2 started strong but afterwards, the Season felt kinda flat. I haven’t even bothered with Season 3. The only one I watched was Chamelion and a bit of Weredad (to which I say, what the fuck was that?)
So the show hasn’t gotten worse. It just hasn’t gotten better.
To take an example of probably the only show I have ever watched more than once (I’m kinda a watch and done person so for me to watch it over and over is a big deal for me), the 2003-2009 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles did episodic formating the best since they didn’t stick to just Episode Arcs. I know the goal of Miraculous Ladybug was to be able to watch in any order but it doesn’t work. It showed in Season One that it didn’t work (Evillustrator comes to mind) but they just kept trying to pound it in. TMNT 2003 did it right. They focused on Episode Arcs but had background Arcs going, tried to tie up any loose ends (which they mostly succeeded at) and if you hadn’t seen a previous episode that led up to it, they had like a 30-second flashback. And for me, that worked. I could watch any episode and still know what was going on even in the middle of an arc.
So I think that’s the biggest contributor to the issues the fandom has now. The status quo of the show is Marinette is in Love with Adrien who is in love with Ladybug. The show has to keep that status if they want to keep going with Episodic Arcs.
Which means Chloe’s Character Development isn’t going to happen. I thought they might succeed with the Battle of the Queens Arcs but they failed immediately afterwards. (Look I would take Chloe just not being the cause of Akumas anymore which Stormy Weather 2 showed isn’t happening.)
It means Marinette isn’t going to start talking normally or make any headway with Adrien despite the fact the audience is going to get/have gotten sick of it.
It means Adrien is continuously going to keep flirting with Ladybug despite the fact that we have seen her turn him down numerous times. (Which is not a good message for the so-called target age group.)
It means that any character development that should have happened by now, doesn’t matter.
It means characters like Lila Rossi or Mayura/Nathalie aren’t going to be regular despite being major players to kick off arcs.
They wanted Episodic Arcs? They got it at the expense of Character Development, potential plotlines, a decent writing timeline and a solid release schedule. It’s predictable and in season 3? That’s not good. This was released four years ago and they are in contact with fans. They should know this.
(There also some suspicion that Fan Content was stolen by the creators which is hardly helped by the fact the show is predictable. Normally I would blow this off but the creators have been exposed to a huge amount of content (whereas normally Creators stay away from it to prevent that kind of accusation) and some of the stuff that has come out is a little suss. There was once a running joke that TheLastPilot was nearly prophetic about the show but now it’s just worrisome. Some acknowledgement about how similar the ideas are would have settled my unease rather than the defensive mocking than we got.)
They keep saying it’s a kids show. I’m saying it deserves better.
But you didn’t ask for my salt. So here’s what you need to know
Alya is a part-time user of the fox miraculous and is called Rena Rouge. Her power is a one time use of illusions called mirage.
Nino is a part-time user of the Turtle Miraculous and is called Carapace. His ability is a one time use of a massive shield bubble called Shelter.
Chloe is a part-time user of the Bee Miraculous and is called Queen Bee. Her power is a one time use stun called Venom.
(I am salty about the names. I won’t deny it. At least Nino’s is half creative.)
Marinette has met the Guardian of the Miraculous, Master Fu, and now she and Adrien have access to different environmental abilities. The ones we’ve seen are Underwater suits and Ice suits.
Gabriel Agreste is confirmed to be Hawkmoth.
Nathalie knows that he is Hawkmoth and actively helped him in the finale of Season 2, first as an Akuma then as a user of the Peacock Miraculous called Mayura. The Peacock Miraculous is ‘broken’ and it’s believed that that’s why Mrs Agreste is not missing but in a magical coma.
Mrs Agreste is in a weird ass tube under Agreste Mansion and Gabriel wants to use the Ultimate Power to cure her.
Another thing that has popped up is Love Interests. (Warning; Saltier than the Dead Sea)
To clarify, I haven’t bothered to watch any of these episodes and I will not watch them. I am not a fan of love triangles (the weird love square aside because technically that’s just two idiots who can’t recognise each other) and I find it annoying (and possibly sexist) that 1) Adrien’s love interests (Marinette, Chloe, Lila and the new one) all seem to fight over him and 2) Marinette’s love interests are all chill.
Kagami Tsurugi is a Japanese girl who looks similar to Marinette, only with dark almond eyes and a bob cut. Kagami is a great Fencer which is how she is introduced to the show. She seems cool but they immediately framed her as a love interest for Adrien which just pisses me off so I didn’t watch any of it. If they had just made her a friend and then slowly brought up the idea that she and Adrien might date, then I might have accepted it (doubtful but now we’ll never know).
Luka Couffaine is Juleka’s older brother that as far as I can tell takes chill to a whole new level and is a musician. I haven’t touched anything to do with him because of an irrational (and I admit it is irrational) annoyance that Luka is basically just bait. And he is. He is bait for Marinette Character Development that won’t happen, he’s bait for Adrien Character Development that won’t happen and he’s bait for shippers who are sick of the love square going nowhere.
We know that the Love Square is end game. This is already complicated enough without more love interests.
If the two had been introduced as new friends, Kagami as a Fencing Friend (preferably not an enabler like Nino kinda is) for Adrien (and maybe Marinette), and Luka as an older friend for Marinette (and maybe Adrien on how to stick up for your good friends when a liar tries to isolate them.) I would be more chill about this, but they introduced them as Love Interests and now I want basically nothing to do with them.
#Miraculous Ladybug#ml Salt#It's a little salty#And that's what you missed on -Glee- Miraculous Ladybug#oh look my salt about love interests#Anonymous
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"Girls kick ass; says so on a t-shirt”: Feminism in James Cameron’s ‘Dark Angel’
Author’s note: goes without saying the following meta contains some spoilers, and language warning coz it’s me writing it. Now, read on.
Recently, I have dived into a re-watch of James Cameron’s cyberpunk/biopunk scifi Dark Angel. The first time I watched Dark Angel was sometime around 2009-2010 mark, and a few things about it made a serious impact on my budding ideas of feminism. The series, which ran for two seasons from 2000-2002, is the story of Max, a genetically-engineered super-soldier (or ‘transgenic’) who escapes the top-secret government facility known as Manticore as a child. She, along with twelve of her ‘siblings’ split up in order to disappear into a ‘pseudo-post-apocalyptic police state’ AKA a United States of America where an Electromagnetic Pulse has wiped out most of the technology pre-2009. She eventually becomes entangled with Eyes Only, an idealistic hacker battling police corruption and the oppressive regime which controls Seattle, where most of the action in the series happens. Eyes Only AKA Logan Cale, is a cyberjournalist played by Michael Weatherby.
James Cameron has said that Max is medium of bringing back the ‘tough, female warrior’ to our TV screens, and for most part, he succeeded. The character, played by Jessica Alba, poses an interesting question in regards to feminism. On one hand, Max AKA X5-452, is undoubtedly a warrior; a bad-ass, ass-kicker with a banging bod, who oozes female sexuality and doesn’t back down from a fight. However, it really isn’t Max’s downright lethal fighting skills, or her sharp, scalding wit that make her memorable to me. It’s her relationships throughout the series with other women that always attracted me to the series, and to the character herself. In the first season is Max’s roommate, the perky, blonde Kendra as well as the wonderful series regular, Original Cindy, a black, gay woman who is Max’s best friend, as well as Asha, the idealistic crusader against government corruption. Asha’s one of those characters who gets dismissed as the unwanted third point on the inevitable love triangle. She’s introduced as a further complication in Max and Logan’s heart-wrenching love story in the second season (Uh, geez, Cliffnotes version: Max gets injected with a virus that’s targeted directly for Logan’s DNA sequence, when Manticore discovers his secret identity as Eyes Only). The thing is, Asha is so much damn more than simply a love interest. She’s a fighter for the S1W, a group of activists working with Eyes Only to fight the good fight, a great friend to Logan, and a genuinely decent human being. Ultimately, despite her position as the ‘other woman’ in the narrative, she and Max not only find common ground, but on more than one occasion, the two of them actively display mutual respect for one another. As rare and uncommon as that is in the love triangle trope, it’s the fact that despite initial hostilities between them—to be fair, Max is basically hostile to everyone she doesn’t know and love—they manage to move beyond the romantic entanglements. It’s a refreshing example of women supporting women, despite the narrative having every opportunity to pit them against one another in a bikini-wearing, wet t-shirt catfight to the death. It might be my lifetime membership to the SHARON CARTER IS NOT HERE TO BE STEVE ROGERS’ GODDAMN LOVE INTEREST club, but I really, really adore Asha and Max’s relationship. Next up to the discussion booth is the one, the only, the incredible Cynthia McEachin AKA ‘Original Cindy’. Hit me up: how many black, gay women who wear their natural hair, are nurturing and kind as well as sassy and unafraid to throw a few punches are actually represented in today’s media? Right?? Anyway, Original Cindy is Max’s best friend. She’s sex-positive as hell and multi-faceted. She’s also a normal-sized human, which is a nice element to have when Jessica Alba is running around being lithe and tiny and fit as hell. I am one thousand percent here for more Original Cindy’s in popular culture. Firstly, she has an understandable what the actual fuck reaction to finding out that her best friend is a genetically engineered super-soldier on the run from shady Men In Black types who will kill and maim whoever they have to in order to get their hands on her. Then, when she’s processed, she stands by Max, unhesitatingly. At one point, she literally puts herself between Max and a sniper’s rifle while pretending to be Max’s hostage. (However, she’s also biphobic as hell, uses some fairly transphobic language at one point in Season One and the one time Cindy gets a grounded, well-rounded love interest, Diamond gets stuck in the ‘bury your gays’ plot. Horrifically.) Of course, no discussion of feminism is complete without addressing our transwomen. I guess the fact that there is actually something to discuss gives the show props? I’m cisgender, so I’m not qualified to write from any platform of authority. The facts are this: Louise is a transwoman (who, by the way, is played by a transwoman Jessica Crockett) and lesbian who dates our heroine’s hard-to-like boss Normal before realising she’s gay. I would love to hear from any transwomen who might have watched Dark Angel, and what they think of Louise. As I said, a lot of the language surrounding Louise’s split second feature in a S1 filler ep is problematic and dated. She’s kind of outed against her will when Original Cindy rifles through her purse in order to find out what kind of woman would go out with Normal at all. The thing that always stuck in my mind is that Normal doesn’t give a shit that she’s trans, and it’s only the fact that she likes women that stops him from pursuing her romantically. To continue on the ‘Your favs are problematic’ roll I’ve got going now, let’s talk about Annie. Annie is introduced in Season 2 as a love interest for Joshua, a Manticore experiment who has ‘dog in his cocktail’ resulting in some altered facial features and super senses, as well as truly abominable table manners. She’s a black, blind woman who receives a grand total of three episodes before being unceremoniously murdered by Season 2’s antagonist Ames White. Her death facilitates Joshua moving to Terminal City, where the grand finale of the series goes down. Phew, boy. It’s telling that I completely forgot about Annie’s existence until this recent re-watch. The thing that drives me completely mad is that narratively there were ways around this. Sure, there always is, but sometimes character deaths are the most straight-forward, least convulated way to move a plot forward. I’m a writer, I get that. Sometimes it sucks, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Annie’s death did not have to happen. Sure, her murder by White shocks the audience into realising that Ames is indeed a monster (There were some episodes preceeding this one where his attitude towards his Murder All The Non-Humans deal seems to be softening slightly), and forces Joshua to move to Terminal City, where they find the rest of the Manticore transgenics and stage a last stand. But… Annie’s murder takes place during a chase to find Joshua in the labryth-like setting of the sewers under the city. Another series regular, Max’s workmate and friend the dorky, lovable Sketchy, is also in the sewers, chasing the story for his beloved gossip rag. He emerges, unscathed from the battle, while Annie is left behind to die at Ames’ hands. Now, Sketchy has had a heap of close calls: he’s been kidnapped by the government goons chasing Max and released on the assumption that he’s a bumbling idiot (Spoiler alert: he’s actually not) He’s also been knocked out by Max on more than one occasion and nearly beaten to death by a bunch of ‘steel-heads’: cybernetically enhanced punks. Sketchy is comic relief. He’s the jester of the court; you want to wound our heroes and shock the audience? Take him out. This is a character we’ve been rolling our eyes and laughing at for two straight seasons, and he would have died before we saw his redemption from hating the transgenics to realising that he’s best friends with two of them in Alec and Max. How is that not just as tragic as Annie’s death? I suppose because Sketchy is a loud, skinny white boy not a gentle, helpless blind woman whom Joshua loves, because as always Man Pain™ must win out. (I mean no disrespect to Joshua; Joshua is a golden retriever human and must be protected at all costs) See, Sketchy dies in the sewers, our heroes are collectively enraged and heart-broken, and Joshua still moves to Terminal City because it could have been Annie who died, I must protect her, whine-whine, howl at the moon, love sucks. See? We get to keep Annie and her guide dog Billie alive, and the plot continues in the exact same way, Man Pain™ included.
So I don’t mean to try and make out that ‘Dark Angel’ is a bad show. It may fall victim a little to the our strong female lead is strong because she can kill twenty grown men with her little finger while wearing booty shorts and a bikini top type of thinking, but it is genuinely a really cool, female-led scifi with a unique idea and really cool, edgy world-building.
Max is one of those heroes that sticks around in your head, and despite the unsatisfactory finale, ‘Dark Angel’ is a show seriously worth the watch.
#Chevy speaks#dark angel#max guevara#feminism#transgender#transwomen#representation matters#glbtq#black girl magic#jessica alba#jensen ackles#scifi#meta#james cameron#sharon carter
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Genre: Shooter, Third-Person 3D Shooter Developer: Sucker Punch Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment America ESRB Rating: Teen Release Date: June 9, 2009
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Kill The Golem Faster
First, destroy one arm he will bow shoot him with megawatt hammer. Repeat with the other arm do this as fast as you can. Instead or shooting his torso, aim for the legs he should be down in less than two minutes.
Dead Or Undead
When you see a person laying on the ground moving, you guess they’re dead? Think again. Run up to the persons body and angle the camera to where you can see their face. If you get a good look you can still see that they’re blinking and looking around. Weird huh?.
A Good Way To Defeat A First Sun Conduit.
An easy way to defeat a first sun conduit is to zap them in the head at least 2 to 5 times and it will kill him instantly then if he comes back up again you zap him again but next time he comes up (New conduit) you do the same thing but when the hologram thingy drops down he appears to be falling shoot him while he is falling and he will die.
Getting Out Of The City
First find the bridge that leads out of the city. Then go on the bridge. There you will find a large gate. Move to the very left of the gate. Keep jumping off the side of the container while facing the corner. Keep jumping until you end up jumping through the gate. Keep doing that for the rest of the gates. When you reach the end turn right until you see a rusted gate. Walk through and then jump to the platform in front of it*you may fall through the floor so try jumping on the metal container*. Turn left and keep walking till you can’t walk any farther. Then jump back on the road and walk to the city*you cannot walk in the city, you fall through the floor and walk through buildings*.
More Charge
If you are charging up and the object runs out of power shock it a couple times. You will be able to charge up some more.
Defeat Kressler
To defeat kessler you must avoid every attack and after 3 or 5 shockwave he will bow down to recharge there you must shoot him with the megawatt hammer (L1+triangle) repeat that and you will defeat him.
Being Resourceful With Energy Recharging
If you are out of energy and need a quick recharge fast but there’s no electrical resources available, just shock anything that is made of metal, or something that conducts electricity (manholes, T. V . ‘s, cars, water, people, used electrical sources, trashcans, metal chain-link fences, or just about anything made out of metal) enough with the default power and you can drain it, the amount of electricity available depends on how much you shocked it. You can even do it the people laying in the streets!
Heal Faster
If you want to heal faster just absorb lightning from anything if screen is black or injured to heal faster.
Free Energy
If there’s no energy drain near, or your in a battle, you can electrify any conductor such as an antenna and energy drain it.
Sly Logo On Cole’s Pack
If you look real closely on Cole’s backpack you will find Sly Cooper’s emblem. Sly Cooper was made by Sucker Punch and they also made the game “Infamous.
Snap Hands
If you tap the aim button (L1)rapidly it shall look he is snapping his fingers a little bit.
Tippy Toe Dance
Make cole glide a wire in the middle move L3 in the opposite direction like left to right or right to left keep moving it and it will look like cole is dancing.
How To Get Infinite Electricity
First, you must have lightning or shock wave, then use either one of them, then once you use it, absorb it’s power then it will glitch and then everyone will be dead (including reapers) and you can walk through buildings and have infinite electricity. Remember, you have to time it at the right time.
Helpful Tip for Mini Map
When you press L3 your mini map will tell you where blast shards are in that area.
What Happens to Trish *Spoiler*
At the end of the game you have the option of saving Trish or 6 doctors. If you choose the doctors, Trish dies. If you choose Trish, you really don’t, IMPOSTOR! Trish is one of the doctors! But somehow she still dies if you pick the doctors.
New Bridge
To do this you need to get farther in the game after you do a type of mission you can go on a bridge to the other side of the city.
New Dance Moves
Cole has a new dance move called heartbeep, by pressing the L2 button next to a source of energie cole will obsorbe it but what if, just before he starts obsobing it you let go of the button L2. Do it rapidly and cole does his dance.
Back To Sasha’s Lair
First, go to the place where the entrance of the lair then go to the very left of the whole thing. Then, start jumping side to side on the wall that has many metal sheets. It will take a wile but you will get through the wall as if nothing was there. P. S don’t go to where you fought Sasha, otherwise you will have to kill yourself to get out.
Super
Did you know that being bad makes you stronger you must be on infamous for this to work.
Defeating Alden
When Alden throws the boulder things at you, you use the push thing to reflect them, then when he leans back to grab another boulder start zapping him with normal blasts, after so many hits he will fall over than make the lil crab things attack you, use the pushthing on them to kill them instantly, soon he will start using a machine gun type attack, simply block it with your newly required shield (make sure you have it upgraded to give energy for every attack it blocks) then normal zapp him until he does the crab things again, repeat until he is red instead of yellow, then use the megawatt hammer on him until he is dead as a door nail.
AC/DC Thophy
To easily get the ac/dc trophy (drain 7500 megawatts of power from empire city) go up to one of those power generators when you have to recharge the substations go to the generator that gives you a new power and get a rubber band or something to hold down the L1 button and face the generator then put the rubber band on the L1 button and the controller after a few minutes it should pop up if it doesn’t pop up yet take the rubber band off use up your energy and then drain more power from the generator then it should pop up.
Cheats
Never Die, Infinite Health.
When you start type this in X, X, X, X, X, Square, Square, Up, Down, Left, Right, Up, Up, Down.
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Trophies
Trophy List
InFamous Platinum Collect all trophies.Hard Finish (Gold) Finish story mode on Hard, without changing the difficulty setting.Good Finish (Silver) Beat the game as a Hero.Evil Finish (Silver) Beat the game while Infamous.Community Organizer (Silver) Take over all territory in the Neon District.Civic Leader (Silver) Take over all territory in the Warren.Urban Designer (Silver) Take over all territory in the Historic District.Evil to the Core (Silver) Purchase every negative Karma upgrade for each power.True Hero (Silver) Purchase every positive Karma upgrade for each power.Goody Two Shoes (Silver) Reach full positive Karma.Truly Infamous (Silver) Reach full negative Karma.Stunt Master (Silver) Complete all of the stunts on the stunt list.Just Scratched the Surface (Bronze) Collect all Dead Drops in the Neon District.Further Down the Rabbit Hole (Bronze) Collect all Dead Drops in the Warren.You’re so Sly (Bronze) Collect all Dead Drops in the Historic District.Junior Geologist (Bronze) Find 25% of the Shards.Member of the Mineral Club (Bronze) Find 50% of the Shards.Rockhound (Bronze) Find 100% of the Shards.Frequent Flyer (Bronze) Travel 5 kilometers using Static Thrusters.Hotfoot (Bronze) Travel 25 kilometers while riding the rails.Electric Hobo (Bronze) Ride the train for 2 kilometers.Casey Jones (Bronze) Take down 25 enemies while riding on a moving train.Road Kill (Bronze) Take down 25 enemies while riding on the roof of a moving vehicle.Drop Everything (Bronze) Thunder Drop for a total distance of at least 500 meters.AC/DC (Bronze) Drain 750 megawatts of power from Empire City.Get Off My Cloud (Bronze) Get 100 High Fall take downs.Red Baron (Bronze) Take down 100 enemies while they are airborne.Fish in a Barrel (Bronze) Kill 50 enemies by using water.True Potential (Bronze) Purchase every upgrade for a single power.Oh, You’ve Done This Before (Bronze) Take down 50 enemies by sticking them with a grenade.The Hunger (Bronze) Bio Leech 100 enemies.Doctor Cole (Bronze) Heal 250 pedestrians.Good Eats (Bronze) Good guys feed the needy.Evil Eats (Bronze) Bad guys never share their food.Good Riot (Bronze) Good guys stand up and take the heat.Evil Riot (Bronze) Bad guys love starting riots.Good Train (Bronze) Good guys proactively facilitate transportation solutions.Evil Train (Bronze) Bad guys make it clear who the boss is.Good Exposure (Bronze) Good guys are heroes to others.Evil Exposure (Bronze) Bad guys love to be seen.Good Sphere (Bronze) Good guys put a stop to the madness.Evil Sphere (Bronze) Bad guys always want more power.Good Intentions (Bronze) Good guys work for the greater good.Evil Intentions (Bronze) Bad guys can’t say goodbye.Stunt Man (Bronze) Complete any one stunt from the stunt list.Stunt Coordinator (Bronze) Complete 10 of the stunts on the stunt list.Back With Trish (Bronze) Reconciled with TrishConfirmed Bachelor (Bronze) Trish hates youTaking Out The Trash (Bronze) Defeat AldenClean Up Your Act (Silver) Defeat Sasha
Drop Everything Trophy
Climb to the top of the tower in the warren city and jump off and do the thunder drop.
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