#tmc theory

[st1tch-p0p]

IMPORTANT MANDELA THEORY.

The intruders name (Six) means *OR* is supposed to parallele the Sixth Dimension. Im going to refrain from calling The Intruder "Six" because Im gonna talk alot about the Sixth Dimension, Yada-Yada and I dont wanna cause confusion.

On Alex's insta, someone asks a question about The intruder and the meaning of his name/ its meaning in general, to this Alex says "stay tuned".

Now I have a screenshot from and old video that Im pretty sure was unlisted from Alex's videos *OR* privated, this video is a "Trailer" for Mandela catalouge and features quite a bit of stuff that we havent seen in actual videos created, but what caught my attention was this frame from the video. It says '4th Dimension" and shows a cube inside a cube.

We know that Alternates themselves are "On different spectrums" which implies they can live in different planes and *POSSIBLY* different Dimensions of existance. So, that cube or the "4th Dimension" could mean that, Alternates live and/or are from the "4th Dimension".

We also know that Alex has stated that the Intruder isnt an alternate himself, and that he is something else entirely that *works* with Alternates.

This means that he is different in some way from Alternates that for some reason makes him special.

The Difference that divides Alternates from The intruder is that The intruder is on a *COMPLETELY DIFFERENT* spectrum, plane, or Dimension of existance *entirely*

Which is maybe why his name is literally Six. Its because he is on/in the Sixth Dimension We also know that this series isnt over yet so things can change, or we could get New information. Hold on to the idea of New information because im gonna take a LEAP stay with me.

The last screenshot says that Six-dimensional space is any space that has *six dimensions, six degrees of freedom, and that needs six pieces of data, or coordinates, to specify a location in this space.* There are an infinite number of these, but those of most interest are simpler ones that model some aspect of the environment. We have seen The intruder *SO FAR* in 4 different spectrums

1. Inside TVs ANALOG]

2. Physically [He has been called "the man in the corner"

which implies hes quite literally *HERE* in the moment

physically to be seen]

3. Inside dreams/nightmares [Adam says that The intruder

comes to him in a dream]

4. Inside Mirrors [Hes seen inside the girls mirror in the

newest Mandela catalouge video]

This all points to the fact that The intruder can appear on completely different spectrums. While we have only seen alternates appear physically and/or torment people mentally (inside dreams, nighmares, and hallucinations.)

So, the intruders name SIX paralleles the Dimension he exists inside.

[analog-autistic]

the new tmc video (cognitohazard) is confirmation that I was right about the information that give you M.A.D. (which I am going to refer to as ‘the information’ from now on)

name alone, a cognitohazard is something that, if perceived, is harmful to the person perceiving it

verbally, the information would be an infohazard, which is information that if known, is harmful, but I’m not gonna nitpick grammar

anyway, the term ‘cognitohazard’ being used directly implies that the information itself is harmful- if a human told another human the information, it would be just as damaging

harmful enough that us, as the viewers, aren’t allowed to see it.

therefore, the information that gives you M.A.D. is anomalous in and of itself.

thank you for coming to my autism rant

[susiesdealmaker]

so here's a question.

WTF IS GOING ON WITH SARAH?

because she's been acting so weirdly around evelin and i can't figure out what her deal is.

for starters, we know that sarah has to have some idea of what's going on with adam. she knows he's talking to somebody at the end of vol4 ("what's going on adam? who are you talking to?") even though she wouldn't have been able to know that unless she was standing right behind him in his bedroom.

secondly, in catalyst, she starts the conversation with evelin about adam but then immediately pivots and claims he's entirely fine and nothing's wrong even though she and evelin both know something isn't right.

and now, in presto, she's being weird again. firstly, you're telling me you somehow learned how to "hack" into any security camera database you want? and you just do this for fun from time to time? no wonder you have a warrant out.

then we have the call. evelin is clearly terrified and confused, and sarah has to know (at least somewhat) what's going on with adam (see point 1) so why isn't she telling her the truth? oh he just happens to do this every now and then but you've noticed a sudden, significant change in his behavior recently and you're not gonna tell his ex-girlfriend who is clearly concerned and worried about him??

then we cut to SARAH's computer being interrupted by a security cam signal from the mcpd station. how would it know how to access her computer if she hadn't already logged onto it's network? it wouldn't. so she's been searching through the mcpd cam footage herself (would she have seen evelin go to the police station???)

and then of course, we're watching adam and thatcher's conversation at the station through SARAH's computer. there's no universe where she doesn't know what's going on at this point.

so why isn't she telling evelin? i'm glad they're bonding over adam being a dickbag but like... why is she hiding what's really going on? does sarah know that evelin has viewed the tapes (from dave's security cam)? does she know evelin went to the police station?

this puts EVERY SCENE we've ever seen with a security cam in it into a whole new perspective. I always thought it was weird that we were watching security cam footage from the mcpd bc... who was watching the footage? SARAH.

if there's one thing i've learned from following this series, it's that alex doesn't add details for no reason. sarah technically has a motive to be spying on the mcpd. they let her brother's case go cold, and we know for a fact that she's always been pissed about it. so spying on the police fits her character like a glove. but i just can't get past why she's being so cryptic with evelin??

[beansforwhat]

Favorite TMC quote and theory, and why?

Ooh this is a tough one

As far as quotes, I'd have to say "When you stare into the mirror, you see the same monsters from your bedroom, don't you?" is a very strong contender,because of the way Six says it, and because of the kind of subtle truth it represents.

And for theories, I'd like to bring up this one theory - I don't know if it has a name proper - that basically says that preacher became adam. I like that one because it deepens Adam's character arc more, the nature versus nurture aspect and such.

[iekeejkeek]

TMC vol.4 in nutshell

[astrokid425]

can we talk about how Thatcher totally took in Adam to defeat the alternates and not because he cared about Adam? To fool Gabriel, he needs to move his selfish action of "intuition" to a selfless action of kindness.

I think this might come where they both run into an alternate. Thatcher will need to make a decision to either leave Adam behind (maybe the alternates pull a fucked up "ruth is still alive" shot to Thatcher) or to try and save Adam (following the sheperd and realizing the delusion). I think only then will Gabriel's plans be shaken up and he'll stumble.

[thequasarwinds]

actually if I spend one more second thinking about Adam and Sarah I am going to explode

I NEED more content of them, their…friendship?? Is SO interesting to me and NOBODY talks about it

I am not gonna get into it because this post would get too long

but I just need to see more of their fucked dynamic- these weird…not acquaintances..not just coworkers- but you can’t say they’re friends

idk how to describe it they have the vibes of weird distant half siblings

AND NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT but I’m not surprised this fandom…ehhh

sorry very disorganized post I am very very tired

[possessedramblings]

TMC theory?

okay so like-

I know that this might sound stupid to some people, but I've had a theory bubbling in my skull for a few days now, and I gotta share it SOMEWHERE or I'm gonna go crazy. Just hear me out.

In Vol. 2, Jonah and Adam get into the fight, as we all know, and it ends with Adam staying in the basement, while Jonah leaves him behind. There's a theory that I have about this fight.

What if Adam hadn't told Jonah to leave?

Listen, listen, listen, Adam is known to be an asshole, obviously - we see that in his behavior leading up to this, and it's even more confirmed throughout the series, but what if this wasn't a moment that showed it, because it wasn't Adam?

What if the voice that yelled at Jonah, quote: "WELL THEN JUST FUCKING LEAVE, THEN. LEAVE!" wasn't Adam, and instead was an alternate?

It would make sense! Alternates can mimic human voices, we see that in Vol. 1 with alternate Cesar, and the woman who called about the cat in Vol. 2 is heavily theorized to be an alternate as well, so they can SOUND extremely human, as well as behave human.

Not only that, but it would make sense because it would put the alternate in the car WITH JONAH to kill him later. It would also put two alternates at the scene, which then raises the question: when did it get in the car?

Simple: either during the night, or it got in when Adam got in, using him opening the door and the conversation as a distraction to slip into the car.

BUT ALSO - it would make sense for Adam to ask if Jonah is still there (quote: "Jonah? Are you there?"). If Adam told Jonah to leave, he would rightfully assume that he left - but if he didn't know, if he had no idea, the way he asks it both in tone and word choice, would 100% make more sense because Adam isn't sure if Jonah's even still listening, or if he shut off his radio to not listen to him.

TO ADD: it would make sense, because in vol. 333, Adam says that he's PRETTY SURE that Jonah is dead. He doesn't know, because Jonah left, and the way that he words it, it's clear that he doesn't know anything about that at all.

Really weird theory, but like- it hit me at three in the morning and I HAD to tell someone about it or I was going to actually go insane.

[st1tch-p0p]

I FOUND THE IMPORTANT LORE TIME!

In the newest wendigoon stream with Alex kister, Alex is watching vol 5 with wendigoon.

Alex mentions that the time that is happening (In vol 5) is VERY important to lore.

So here are my findings- Most of these Alternate attacks are happening around 3:30, the only thing that throws this off is the Clock from the 2:38 [VINE] video because the clock is at a warped angle, so I dont know for sure what time it is.

Also a small note, vol 3 is literally called vol 333 which could mean "3:33" am.

[nerves-nebula]

list of things the alternates in the mandela catalog do according to my friend

look "weird"

tell you things you'd rather not know (this somehow makes you want to kill yourself)

like literally apparently they cannot actually touch people? they can only make you kill yourself by telling you shit that is somehow both true and makes u go crazy AAAAAA and kys or smth. inch resting

which is just some shit i do every day (look weird tell ppl things theyd rather not know and cannot touch ppl) cementing once and for all that i'll be joining the war on alternates on the side of alternates

[bohioeveanga]

Oh, boy do I got a dumb Zelda theory that I will not be translating into any other language because this will be long as heck...🙃

And I do mean long, so buckle up and get ready. Because the theory goes as follows: what if the Zonai and Minish are somehow connected?

I know I'm grasping at the stupidest straws and I actually thought about it while falling asleep last night, I've only got one open eye this morning while writing this, so these are really rambles of a madwoman!🤣 Still, I think this needs to be discussed. I think there might be, in the smallest of chances, a connection.

Let's start with the obvious, physical traits. There's not much, I know. We only have the extremely large ears and snout. That's about it, really. Minish have lighter skin, and seem to have a feathery tail coming from behind. On the other hand, Zonai have a grayish-greenish skin, overall white hair, and don't have tails. The biggest and most obvious difference is size, with the Minish being small and the Zonai, well, do I really need to explain that? The Zonai are even much taller than Hylians in comparison.

Though it seems they can have a lot hair, both, if we compare Rauru and Ezlo in his Minish form. Who knows if Zonai can grow beards too?

Also, the Minish came from the sky, much like the Zonai did. Coincidence?!

But wait! There's more. Let's talk about designs.

Can you see it? The eye. That effing eye! Took one look at that shield, and all I could think was the Four Sword Sanctuary. Now, granted, that's in FS and FSA, but those stories are connected to MC. I saw the Elemental Sanctuary, and while there's no eye, it's safe to say that maybe there's a connection to the sanctuaries, housing the Four Sword and elements. And the Ranger Constructs seem to have an akin eye to the shield and sanctuary, even hanging at the side of their faces. It's so similar, that I can't help but think there might be a connection. (Low-key, I actually thought the Ranger Constructs would be a new version of the Eyegore.)

Still on the eye-theme, the Zonai themselves have a third eye. You know two other people who seem to have a connection to a third eye? Hmm, yeah, Vaati and Astor.

Now, Astor is from AoC, so I'm not too worried on him, but he's eerily similar to Vaati, to the point I actually believed he was an incarnation of him back before AoC came out. And why not? Similar dark clothes, gold accents, red highlights in magic, the circlet with red jewel, gray skin, maniac tendencies, need I say more? But Vaati used to once be a Minish, remember? He turned human with his newfound powers through the magical cap Ezlo made prior to the MC events. The Minish are creatures of magic and desire good. Zonai too. If we analyze at a slightly scientific and magical perspective, maybe the Minish might have evolved into a large and superior advanced race, even going as far as abandoning there small stature and simplistic lifestyle. Similarly to our smart Sheikahs from BoTW/AoC/ToTK and 10,000 years prior.

Eye these other shots! (See what I did there? No, okay, I'll shut up.😏)

Dark Hyrule Castle in MC? Filled with eye-related puzzles. Zonaite armor? Eye on the freaking helmet! Mazaal, boss for the Fortress of Winds in MC? Eyes on his hands, literally! Plus, who's to say that Mazaal isn't some super ancient prototype of a Construct? Look at the shape of the head and Zonaite helmet! (WHAT IF THE SHEIKAH TOOK INSPIRATION TO CREATE GOHDAN FOR THE TOWER OF THE GODS IN WW?! Theory for another day.)

Now, finally giving a shut-eye to that topic (I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself,) let's talk about Constructs. Asides from Mazaal above, you know what device is super similar between Minish and Zonai?

A classic Zelda staple seems way too similar for this particular theory. Sure, the Remote Bomb is gray, but the aspect between the Remote and Time Bomb are way too similar. Even the 'fuse' is pretty much the exact same look and color! On top of that, its usage is exactly the same. It's a small stupid piece of circumstantial evidence, but I'm going with it.

Now, finally, for my last bit. TotK brought some new flora into the game, fitting naturally. But there's one that's unique and stands out, and surprisingly shares a part of its name with a plant that makes an appearance in MC. Can you guess?

Aren't they pretty? The shape and look of the Brightbloom and Pico Bloom, respectively, are identical. When the bud is close, its shape is similar as well. When the bud is open, it provides lighting in its general area. Pico Blooms, in particular, offer different lights, asides from the above yellow, including, yes, white. Pico Blooms lights glow very obviously while the Brightbloom's glow is steady and unwavering. While it's hard to guess if Pico Blooms are able to provide as much light as a Brightbloom in the darkness, maybe the Depths, the similarities are impossible to ignore. Even the way the leaves at the bottom of the stem are similar. Brightblooms don't make an appearance in BotW, much like the Pico Blooms do not exist, or at least, not seen, in any other Zelda game. And while Pico Blooms serve more as a side quest appearance, they still form a part of the Minish's general flora. Brightblooms appeared right after the Upheaval, a crucial item to explore the Depths. And they seem to have a strong connection with the Zonai, as they are seen as a part of the Ranger Constructs decoration, as well as within the shrines, and even in the mines and other architectural locations found in the Depths.

The entire Miner's freaking Set is an entire copy to the Brightbloom!

Welp, that's my tea and essay for today, y'all. I think I'm still kind of asleep, despite everything I wrote and all the above images. Am I crazy and seeing too much into it? Probably am, but it seems there's a connection. Maybe the Minish evolved into the Zonai, much like the Zora evolved into the Rito. Maybe the Minish, while trying magic, backfired into the Zonai? Or maybe they're just completely separate from each other. The possibilities are endless. At the end of the day, that's what makes the games so great, and makes me just another sleepy Zelda theorist.

See later ya later guys! Back to bed!🤣

[beansforwhat]

Late night thought:

So we see the hallway alternate stretch its face out with its hands right

What if Adam (intentional or not) actually stretched his own face out in a similar manner

[forested--vampire]

I rewatched the events of Dave's death and those leading up to it to help. timeline things in my brain for AU purposes. and I have a few words to say because Obrien is a weird untalked about creature of the deep and I need to dissect this man. 1. He and Dave clearly ave spoken. A LOT. Like, not just brushing by a few times these guys know each other. Which means this is a really elaborate trick. 2. Just a funny thing I noticed, his accent gets a lot. thicker. During the dave death scene which I find super funny. Gabriel just cranking up the cowboy-meter on him. 3. The church is, heavily implied to have been put off limits. This is an interesting observation since, well, OBrien brags about literally brining people to their feet during his performances, which, is super funny if this church is off-limits because this man is making bullshit up to make himself seem cooler. Like. Of coarse he'd brag about some bullshit he made up that seemes extremely on parr, if this is real though??? There needs to be some serious M.A.D check-ups on people.

[hoperoiselover]

GUYS, SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ALREADY, MR. KISTER MADE THIS POST ON YOUTUBE

AND I KNEW THAT THIS WAS A CODE, AND FUCK I WAS RIGHT, IT'S SHIFTED ALPHABET CODE. IT TRANSLATED INTO THIS

NOW I'M NOT TO SURE WHAT THIS COULD MEAN, BUT I HAVE SOME IDEAS, SO I'LL JUST LIST THEM CAUSE WHY NOT IT COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH ADAM'S TRANSFORMATION IN MANDELA CATALYST FORESHADOWING THE NEXT VIDEO REFRENCING MARK'S DEATH HOW ALTERNATES APPEARED ONE DAY RANDOMLY INTRUDER TAKING KIDS

I'M MORE CONFIDENT IN THE CATALYST, FORESHADOWING, AND INTRUDER THEROY I HAVE. BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR INTERPRETAIONS!

[henriiiii-1001]

Was a fan of your stuff since 1 month after you started your old blog ( does that make me an "old" fan lol )

For art request , blame me being the eldest of five siblings , but Fairy Tale au Adam except he's kiddo? If you draw kids / are in the mood ofc

lil babey adam!!! sorry if the quality looks bad, i had to enlarge the sketch so the lines look blurry.

also wow! that does make you an old fan, but i appreciate that so much!!!! im glad people from like. 2020 have stuck with me qwq

enjoy!!

[st1tch-p0p]

IMPORTANT LORE!

When Thatcher is inside the Murray home. In the clip, he is being taunted by an alternate (whether its Six or N or whatever else) its clearly singing a Childs lullaby in a low, masculine voice. The lullaby that is being sung is called "Amazing grace". It was written by John Newton, and it's a common lullaby to sing to fussy or worried children.

This particular lullaby is also VERY biblical! (Explanation Later). Also,

I have brightened the video as much as possible, and as you can see, a hand reaches around the corner and flips the light switch out as, whatever it is, sings.

Looking at the arm, I will say that this might not be Six, the arm lacks, yknow, a characteristic hoodie sleeve and there is no discernible face or features that would point to Six. But, listening to the voice, it sounds an AWFUL lot like Six himself/ something he would do and say. In the speech to Adam, he refers to Adam as his "sweet boy", and says that "he kept him safe".

Going out on a limb here, but Jude and Lynn are divorced right? Which leaves just Lynn to watch Adam most of the time. But just maybe when she wasn't looking or paying attention, or doing something else (sleeping, out of the room etc) and Adam was being fussy or upset, Six would probably "fill the role" as dad and sooth Adam back to sleep via lullabies or whatever he could do. This might be why Six has such a "bond" with Adam, because Jude wasn't there at the house to be "dad". Yet most of this goes down the drain, as whatever it is, it doesn't look much, if at all, like the Six we know and love.

So this is maybe N OR some other Alternate. We also know N had some part in tormenting the murrays. This is seen when N follows Jude to the safe house and corners him in the closet. Jude proceeds to yell at the Alternate saying, "IT'S YOU! ITS FUCKING YOU. YOU TOOK EVERYTHING FROM ME- MY WIFE, MY CHILD." This implies N might not only have been the one singing the lullaby at the house, but this also might just mean N plays a way bigger role than we think, ESPECIALLY in the death and torment of the murrays.

Then again, this could all fall flat because we don't know FOR SURE, it is N, it could be another alternate, or it could just be a hoodie-less Six being really, really weird.

[EXPLAINATIONS]

Newton's view of redemption and divine grace formed his perspective that he considered himself a sinner so vile that he was unable to change his life or be redeemed without God's help.

The song is ALSO said to represent the ability of humanity to transform itself instead of a transformation taking place at the hands of God.

So do whatever you want with this information, but I think it holds some importance to Gabriels plan, or some kind of lore with the murrays.