#valdust

[artyphex]

HEARTS

Do you think he gets hair in his mouth a lot

[moodooivy]

One of my favorite things to do is ship things in pairs. My favorite being any combo between Vox, Valentino, Alastor, and Angel Dust.

StaticMoth and RadioDust, I dislike RadioDust, but together, they make a funny shipping duo.

StaticDust and Valastor, in my head it gives me the funny scenario where Vox and Angel get together to spite Alastor and Valentino.

RadioStatic and ValAngel, NOT IN THE PRESENT TIME. I like to ship these together in the past and imagine Vox, Alastor, Angel, and Val double dating all the time (Aka, Vox and Alastor tag along Val and Angel's dates and Alastor thinks it's a double date).

[frie-ice]

This Hazbin Hotel collage is of Valentino and Angel Dust, and yes I know this ship is very toxic from the abuse Val puts Angel through but there are people who do support ValAngel. The Vees are said to be the main villains of season two, so there is a chance we'll probably get more moments like these, though whatever feelings Angel had for Valentino could have faded away when he stood up to him at the club. If your not a fan of this ship please keep your negative thoughts of it to yourself, as I don't welcome ship hate or wars here, any mean comments towards the ship or the collage will be deleted and the users who left them blocked.

This ship has also been called Valengel, ValDust, ValenDust, DustVal, Dustino, Angelentino, Angentino, Angeltino, Vangel, Antino, ValAnthony, Valenthony, Vanthony, Valthony, Anthontino, SpiderMoth, MothSpider, MothDust, DustMoth, AngelMoth, MothAngel, PimpSpider, SpiderPimp, PimpDust, DustPimp, PimpAngel, AngelPimp, Roofie, Poison Addiction, Pimpin' and Simpin', Four Firearms, Six-Legged Sex, Cigarettes After Sex, ヴァルエン (VaruEnn) and 🦋🕷️.

[malu897]

Val's boys 🩷❤🩵

[yasssgiveusnothing]

Radiohusk Analysis: Alastor Cares or Nothing Makes Sense (Part 1)

In the pilot, Alastor needs to bribe Husk to work as the bartender for his new fun project, Hazbin Hotel (HH)! However, as we're told in season 1 episode 5, Alastor has Husk's soul, and therefore, can make Husk do whatever. So why the fuck does Alastor need to bribe him? What reason would he feel compelled to do that if he already has the power to make Husk to anything he wants? Let's discuss some possible options.

A) Alastor feels as if he needs the extra incentive to get Husk to do his job.

This argument has no substance to me because we see in season 1 episode 5 that Alastor has no quelms with putting Husk (or anyone) in their place. If Alastor needed Husk to be obedient and to attend the bar for the hotel, Alastor could have just threatened Husk and reminded him that he has no choice, considering he has his soul.

B) Vivziepop forgot that in the canon pilot that she wrote Husk as needing to be bribed in order to work the bar.

This is very possible, considering Vivziepop did not write or create the dynamic and most of the interactions that makes Husk and Alastor's relationship. That being said, it is possible that she wouldn't remember the details of their dynamic/interaction from the pilot, but also not understand the characters and their relationship.

C) Alastor cares.

Alastor wants Husk to be satisfied under his care. It is the only narrative that makes sense, whether it was Viv's intention or not. Alastor gives Husk a choice to work at the hotel. It is why Alastor decides to bribe him instead of using his power and authority to do make Husk work the bar.

Alastor also listens to Husk's concerns about Mimzy and considers him. Alastor also trusts Husk enough to let him know his secret involving being on Lilith's leash.

THERE IS RESPECT AND TRUST THERE! He even lets Husk put a finger on him (making their argument physical!)

I mean, Alastor could have easily ripped Husk a new asshole for putting hands on him and verbally attacking Alastor by weaponizing the fact that he also has a leash around his neck, but he didn't.

Let's not forget that Alastor has 'killed' for less! He attacks Sir Pentious for tearing a piece of his coat!

You might be thinking something along the lines of If Alastor cares, why did he threaten Husk?

Nothing is black and white, the least of all relationships, especially relationships in Hell. Alastor isn't exactly a good guy. You can still care about someone and hurt/lash out at them. Also, Husk said something that was aimed to hurt Alastor. It's like if someone you trusted one day said, "That's why your dad left" in the middle of an argument. I'd be pissed too! I wouldn't fucking put a finger on them or threaten them (because I'm not made up of the same stuff a sinner in disney hell is), but it's understandable Alastor would BECAUSE IT'S HELL. Also, the fact that Alastor didn't even hurt Husk during this scene is proof enough that Alastor cares deeply and evidence that the pushing of Angel-Val parallels on this duo is absolute bullshit and makes no sense.

Whether Vivzie forgot or not, what is important is that her perspective of the story is not the only one that matters. A writer can have a specific vision in mind for their story and the characters in it; however, the viewer has the liberty to interpret the text however they want based on their imagination, experience, and relationships. Viewer interpretation helps to broaden perspectives and open up potential interpretations that differ from the writer's original perspective.

[littledemonlucina]

Dark Romances: Tier 1 to 4

Dark Romances: Tier 1 Featuring StaticRadio and Valastor. Inspired by 'Can't help falling in love' by Tommee Profitt feat. brooke and 'Toxic' by 2WEI. Designs by @kalico-of-doom and @/AkireRosales.

Unlocked from the start. (Stand 02/03/25: 7 backers)

Ko-Fi

Dark Romances Tier 2:

Featuring CherriSnake and Adalith. Inspired by 'Worship' by Amber Run and 'You are no good' by Hidden Citizens. Designs by @/LadyGValentine and @staticapplesin & @littledemonlucina.

Needs 42 backers to be unlocked.

Ko-Fi

Dark Romances Tier 3:

Featuring VoxVal and RadioDust. Inspired by 'Secrets and Lies' by Ruelle and 'Wicked Game' by Ursine Vulpine. Designs by @/LadyGValentine and @shanimeartist.

Needs 64 backers to be unlocked.

Ko-Fi

Dark Romances Tier 4:

Featuring ValAngel and RoyalHalo. Inspired by 'Sweet little lies' by J2 and 'War of Hearts' by Ruelle. Designs by @/LadyGValentine and @/NOVA_gbp.

Needs 86 backers to be unlocked.

Ko-Fi

[thefemmeprince]

what if, at the beginning, angel was clinging to stereotypical masculinity bc it's what had been imposed upon him that that's how he proves himself

so when he meets valentino, val puts on this act of his relationship with vox. vox doesn't pay enough attention to him! and poor, helpless valentino never gets to have any fun. locked away in (v) tower, neglected and starved for attention...

angel thinks he's the knight in shining armor and is 'saving' valentino by giving him love and affection. and then something something contract and he gets the freedom to experiment with his presentation in his new career, when it's too late

(bonus points if val did the same thing to vox of playing into his toxic masculinity to get things out of it)

[xxangeldustanalogx]

dom who wants to do rapeplay but his sub is too much of a desperate whore to actually fight back so he has to make it non consensual by dosing the sweet little faggot with so much acid it can no longer pass the harkness test, then raping it with the time knife until its breath slows and it bleeds out into oblivion

[ophelianessa]

He's in love, your honor

[ticmasc]

VALDUST

pt: Valdust

-> Valentino x Angeldust stimboard

x-x-x/x-x-x/x-x-x

[artyphex]

Liking Valdust and to a lesser extent Radio Silence in the Hazbin Hotel fandom is a minefield because I always have to disclaim

“Okay with Valdust it’s not that I think it’s romantic or hot I just find their horrific dynamic incredibly fascinating. Like I really do think Val and Angel loved and to some extent still DO love each other but that “love” is so warped and so destructive and yet so addictive all at once. It’s such a good metaphor for drug addiction but also a depiction of romantic abuse in general. And with Radio Silence I think it’s entirely one sided. Vox was fully in love with Alastor but Alastor simply never did and never will love Vox like that and Vox can’t cope. Alastor broke his heart and isn’t sorry and will never be sorry and Vox can’t stand that and STILL loves him they both are just-“

[mementoshay]

I read in a document saying that you are longer going to be involved with anything to do with Hazbin ever again, is that correct? If so, why?

Hello there, I will answer with my own experience.

Keep in mind, however, that the fact that a friend died in the name of this show is already reason enough for me to not want to hear about it again, if only to preserve my own sanity.

For now, the only one who still somewhat engages with the fandom is Eden. I think the reason is that she made many friends along the way in the years she took an active part in the fandom (all the way from before the pilot I think, so many years), and can't quite cut the cord yet.

I, on the other hand, came along after the pilot and belonged to the HuskerDust "side" because of the Instagrams. I'm gonna admit I loved their banter and seeing Angel flirt with him with Husk acting like he didn't care, when he actually did. I found it cute. And also the way Angel blushed in the pilot when Husk was introduced.

I did know about the Hunicasts and about the interactions between Ed Bosco and Michael Kovach (Alastor and Angel's old VAs) on stream, and I found them amusing although not as endearing as the Instagram interactions between Angel and Husk.

I was fully aware though that these streams were the ground upon which the pilot (and fandom) was built, and the "RadioDust" ship carried the whole thing for years before anything was even produced. If you even typed "Hazbin Hotel" or "Alastor" or "Angel Dust", they were the thing that would come up on Google first.

What I liked about it all, however, was the passion and "camaraderie" this whole thing came with. There was passion from the VAs, there was passion from the writers, there was passion from the fans themselves. The fan created so much content it's insane. Every single fan awaited the arrival of the show for so long it was absolutely wonderful to see every character move when the show was announced.

We all believed in this project, it was amazing.

Yet, fast forward to the winter of 2023, my "side" of the fandom became increasingly aggressive. They wrote callout posts, leading to ship and content wars. They expected and almost demanded that the ship would be canon, because of an endless list of clues they collected over the years. And when the ship was confirmed to be 'endgame' the self-entitlement went from 0 to 100 in the blink of an eye. It was beyond insane.

Seeing the way my "side" could as much as maul people on other "sides" (may it be RadioDust, ValDust, RadioHusk, NifftyHusk, you name it, as long as there's either Angel or Husk in the equation) already made me grimace a little. When all that happened, I was taken aback.

Then, Shay died. And with all the names involved in the fact (which I won't name) that I really looked up to and followed for years, I felt sick to my stomach. I unfollowed them all and took a break from everything.

All I was hoping for was a show about redemption, with fun shenanigans between a bunch of misfits... instead we got drama after drama, ship war fuel directly from up above, and a dead fan.

I still watched the show when it came out, but I felt utterly disappointed by it. Extremely poor pacing, terrible writing with bits and pieces completely useless to the plot, characters that no longer feel like what they were advertised as (e.g Husk, Alastor or Cherri Bomb) and an overall waste of precious minutes for such a short runtime. I felt a bit betrayed as well, given the amount of time we all waited since we saw these characters on screen.

But worst of it all, the passion that fueled the original plan was completely gone, as well as the camaraderie we lived with for so long. And a friend, who dedicated time, money and passion is now dead for this.

There is to say that every community is made out of people that should be taken individually. I can name plenty that would never ever wish what has occurred to Shay and that still belong to what was my "side" of the fandom. But I can also name plenty that to this day still shout death threats over different ships and opinions.

Things change, of course. For me, they didn't change for the better. And neither did for Shay.

So you'll understand if I don't wish to be involved not hear about Hazbin Hotel (or HuskerDust for that matter) again.

Thanks for your question!

- Liv

[malu897]

And here is a video about Hazbin's portrayal of ValAngel before the show

[yasssgiveusnothing]

Radiohusk Analysis: Husk Cares or Nothing Makes Sense (Part 2)

Husk cares about Alastor. It makes no narrative sense otherwise.

Let's talk about it!

Husk goes out of his way to help Alastor when it would be in his best interest to not care AT ALL about that man:

Husk goes to Al to warn him of Mimzy and ARGUE with him for Al's benefit.

Husk gets frustrated when Al doesn't heed his warning and thinks Al will get hurt.

These screenshots are from season 1 episode 5.

Here's the scene:

Let's delve deeper into it!

Narratively, that whole scene serves three purposes:

1. To tell the viewer Al is also on someone's leash.

2. To tell the viewer Husk worries and cares about Alastor.

We are shown Husk going out of his way to help Al, only for Al to tell Husk that he does not need to worry because Al has everything under control. We then see Al was correct as he jovialy kills and consumes his enemies without effort. In other words, what the viewer learns from this scene is that Husk needlessly worries about Alastor's well-being.

3) To draw parallels between Angel & Valentino and Husk & Al.

You might be thinking, Exactly! If Husk and Al are just lke Angel and Val, why would Husk care for Al or vice versa?!

Vivzie has been pushing this narrative that Al and Husk are parallels for Angel and Val this entire season. I don't think there are enough words to describe how this parallel doesn't work, but I'll try anyway.

A) Angel does not care for Val's well being.

Angel would not go out of his way to help Val like Husk helps Alastor.

B) Val does not care for Angel's well-being.

Val doesn't need to bribe his soul contracts to work with him.

Val straight up gives Angel no free will. (Unlike Al who does not force Husk to attend the bar, instead chosing to bribe him).

If Angel gives the slightest of attitude, Val does not hesitate to get physical immediately. (Unlike Alastor, who not only lets Husk shove a finger into his chest, but let's him speak his mind and does not immediately maim him for disrespecting him.)

C) Husk is not afraid of Al.

A man scared of Al would not argue with him or his benefit, nor go up to him and jab a finger in his chest. And yes, Husk was scared of Al when Al threatened him, but Husk fucking started it! He literally made a jab at the guy where it would hurt! If you made a jab at your pal and they start foaming at the mouth, you'd be scared too, but also know you lowkey deserved it and shouldn't be surprised it happened. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Al and Husk sit together without Husk shitting himself. Could you possibly imagine Angel sitting next to Val without wanting to disappear through the floor? Nope!

D) Al trusts Husk. Refer to my previous theory for more information.

E) Al does not regularly assault or overwork Husk.

Husk chills at the bar all day with access to infinite alcohol. This is the closest Husk will ever get to Heaven.

Alastor has not assaulted Husk ever. Unless we're calling the time Alastor pulls on Husk's chain and makes him fall to the floor an assault. Which, sure, fine. But that ONE push that left NO INJURIES was the only time Al has ever gotten aggressively handsy with Husk. And funnily enough, Husk was the first one to put hands on the other.

This 'assault' in comparison to the treatment Angel gets from Val pales CONSIDERABLY. In fact, the two duos are NOTHING ALIKE beyond there being a Overlord owns your soul dynamic, but with Radiohusk, that dynamic barely takes place as Alastor treats him more like a trusted pal than an object to be abused.

I also want to quickly go over how I feel Husk is out of character for the second half of this scene.

Husk is perceptive. He understands other people extremely well, which has been shown numerous times throughout the show as he reads the entire main cast and Mimzy. He is also a gambler, which means he knows when to bet and when to fold.

So you expect me to believe that Husk would say THAT to Alastor and expect him to take it well, especially when Husk knows it is a sensitive subject to him?

And Alastor's reaction is kinda valid. I mean, someone who you trusted with this information weaponizes it against you by spitting it back in your face! If Angel can have a meltdown over being someone's bitch, why can't Alastor? I mean, Angel throws a broken glass bottle at Husk's head, but Alastor pushes Husk and suddenly Al is as bad as Valentino?

With this, I conclude thtat:

Husk cares about Alastor

Alastor cares about Husk

Angel & Valentino's relationship does not parallel Alastor & Husk's.

Husk was out of character during the second half of that scene and was possibly a result of Vivzie desperately trying to parallel Valdust with Radiohusk.

[angelduffhazbin]

♥ Ship Popularity ♥ #2

[thefemmeprince]

my conspiracy theory is that someone on the spindlehorse team had a rlly good time creating a valangel backstory where they fell in love and it was meant to lead to the inevitable fallout and then they were like "oh shit! but they're toxic now

:( and now they can't be happy together"

so then they made fizzmodeus to fill the void of happy, supportive, good ending valangel