#why not celebi is there

[mochi-d-lechuga]

That's how Special Episode 5 ended

Original (I think...?):

[scribz-ag24]

they got a brilliant plan

[rival-ado]

devolving shenanigans

[macaroonkitti]

New Year in Ecruteak!!

[tagarilaghost]

I SWEAR CELEBI'S THINGY IS COMING SOON BUT I REALLY WANTED TO POST THIS ALRIGHT

yeaah... future trio got me too...

and Darkrai is there too, because of course he is.

hey look i drew a cute Drifloon :D

...ignore the rest

whatever started at Darkrai doodles ended in brainrot of future trio + darkrai and I'm blaming @scribz-ag24 for this

[driftingballoons]

Babysitting duty

[front-facing-pokemon]

[fujii-draws]

Concocting some Celenoir in my witches’ pot

[beastomato]

wanted to make a comic but words and structures escape me at the moment so instead i just sketch

plus a dusknoir i think i drew before playing special episode 5 back in january based on a papyrus meme which is honestly really fucking funny in retrospect given there’s a pmd x ut AU going on?? not very active in fandom but i’ve seen multiple crossover fanarts pop up already

[gold-gummi]

I'm just glad you're okay...

Celeste and Celebi <3

[catmask]

Sammy from 4ever Celebi reminds me of your ‘sona. Thots?

thats professor oak! sammy (samuel oak) is one of my favorite characters in the pokemon anime. i think he has a lot of interesting underlying character thats sprinkled throughout information we get from other characters, and thats always been the sort of character i enjoy.

i like learning about someone from the people who knew them, admire them or had rivalries with them. i think that learning about someone you can never meet the former version of is cool! and most of all i think professor oak is a nice old man so yeahg

[mysteryampharos]

my friend has started playing eos lately and after we got through chapter 12 i asked him what his predictions were and he hit me with "what if grovyle and dusknoir are also human" and that concept goes HARD actually

[scribz-ag24]

grovyle is the only one in this team who takes things seriously i will not be convinced otherwise

[nqathan1]

PMD Explorers opinion (fine, yes, it’s a headcanon, but it’s about the ramifications of time travel, so bear with me):

It’s actually a really good thing Grovyle and [hero] got attacked and separated.

If they hadn’t, they would never have met [partner]. This is bad for a number of reasons. First and foremost, it’s [partner] who has the relic fragment that lets you into the Hidden Land. Without it, no Lapras, which means no future saving, which means it’s all for nothing.

Secondly, and more interestingly imo, it would have caused a pretty irresolvable paradox—Grovyle and [hero] disappear, which means no one had ever come to fix the time gears, which means the future never got saved, which means they did come fix the time gears, which means they didn’t, and so on. The presence of [partner], in my head, anchors them. It gives them a jumping off point to have someone who participated in the time gear shenanigans so no matter what, there was someone who wouldn’t disappear who saved the future. [Partner] might not know why in a world where [hero] and Grovyle never existed, but [partner]’s involvement is temporal proof that it happened, and also gives Dialga a reason to stabilize the paralyzed future from SE5.

Here’s the evidence to my claim.

Chapter 11 (I think?), Dusknoir takes [hero], [partner], and Grovyle to the future. We see for sure that some time has passed since they all left to begin with through Dusknoir’s conversations with Dialga and your own conversations with Celebi. This seems to indicate that there is a sort of link in the flow of time between these two points somehow. Here’s more evidence. When everyone gets back, three days have passed since we left (I believe. I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure). If Celebi was being smart, she would have just sent everyone to the moment they left—or, even smarter, well before, to give more time for collecting gears. But she didn’t. This implies that either Celebi didn’t know what she was doing, or that there is a concrete link between the future and the past through the persons of [hero] and Grovyle. The way I understand this link is as such: once someone goes to the past, they link up their own native time with the time they are currently inhabiting. So, if time passes for them in the past, it passes for them in the future, too. Vice versa. Because of this, we have consequences like not being able to use the Passage of Time to go back earlier than we were.

I think the most important part of this theory, though, comes into play during SE5. If things functioned as they normally do in time travel stories, Grovyle and Dusknoir and Celebi and Dialga and everyone else would have already disappeared when they got back to the future. [Hero] disappears before that future could possibly have come about, so it would only make sense for everyone else to have already disappeared at the same time. But we still see quite a bit happen. In fact, I think we probably see a bit too much, even for this theory. Either way, Grovyle and Dusknoir have so much time before they start to disappear that they can climb Temporal Tower, travel across the world, climb up Vast Ice Mountain, and beat up Dialga themselves before they start to disappear. Ergo, the link—as [hero] and [partner] climb up Temporal Tower and fight Dialga themselves, the passage of time (lowercase) is linked between them and Grovyle. The two periods of time are treated more like alternate dimensions with concurrent events than separate points in a continual timeline. As such, it is only when the synced up point of disappearing approaches for [hero] that Grovyle and Dusknoir start to disappear.

The only holes in this theory are Dusknoir’s presence at the Rainbow Stoneship and the reappearance of the future crew. Dusknoir’s showing can be attributed fair easily to “he just waited until the right time.” As for the reappearance…I’m inclined to say they don’t reappear until [hero] does. Months go by in the moments between when we see them disappear and when they are reformed. But since literally nothing happens during those months, the future being literally destroyed and all, we (the player) don’t get to see it.

Anyway. Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[tagarilaghost]

Any thoughts to Dusknoir getting "advice" from Darkrai in the future (while hunting Grovyle & Hero)?

[driftingballoons]

in the pmd world it pays to have a sweet tooth