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"I KNOW you aren't talking to me like that. Who do you think you're talking to? You think I have even an ounce of respect for you after what you did to me? After what you did to my husband? My brother? Or hel, my CHILDREN? You think I'd ever respect you or even come close to that? After the chemical warfare your family has used that made it A NIGHTMARE to allow me to have children?! Do you think I'd EVER respect you after all the pain you've caused."
Viggo scoffed. "But if course, Hiccup, I'm always wrong aren't I." He walked past them both, Basil quickly guiding him away. He didn't seem to care that people would hate him. It's not like he can see their rude glares anyway.
Mitzy was cringing hard, looking away. "Oh my gods."
He could feel his anger rising, and this time, he didn't suppress it. "In case you've forgotten, we were at war! You nearly killed my wife with the Scourge of Odin, attempted to kill me and my friends countless times, you even put a bounty on my head! That's just scratching the surface!
Let's not forget, you instigated Ryker going down with Project Shellfire. You even said you were happy to see it! Don't play the victim here, Viggo.
You also realize, I have never harmed any of your children, either. I wouldn't stoop so low as to target innocent lives, unlike you, who planted a submaripper to starve all of Berk, including the women and children!"
He'd had enough of Viggo's insults, he couldn't take it anymore.
He watched as Viggo left, and once he's gone far enough, Hiccup took a breath, running his hand through his hair. He turned to Mitzy.
"I.. I'm sorry, I just...I couldn't listen to him berate me anymore, or hear him brush you off."
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Viggo: God, give me patience.
Ryker: I think you mean 'give me strength'.
Viggo: If God gave me strength, you'd be dead.
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(To my fellow friends that haven't watched project Shellfire I inform you that there's a little spoiler in the tags)
#this fits them so much#I don't have anything else to say#just think about it#Viggo was given the strength once and he did kill his brother#I don't wanna believe it but he probably did#with the project Shellfire and the Submaripper#the fact that I remember how to spell these dragons' species names and I don't remember how to spell other stuff really says a lot about me#Viggo#Viggo Grimborn#Ryker#Ryker Grimborn#Grimborn brothers#httyd#rtte#rtte incorrect quotes#httyd incorrect quotes
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Serotonin Booster :D 🐉
How to train your dragon edition
Here are some things I had forgotten or little details I just noticed on my rewatch, maybe even Unpopular Opinions 🤭👀
✨Race to the Edge ✨
SEASON 4
Tuffnut choked on a stun dart- I think I've seen it all regarding the twins HAHDHSHHA
Fishlegs really had Meatlug opening its mouth WIDE JUST TO SAY ABORT THE VERY LAST SECONDHAHSHGSGG
I love how Hiccup and Astrid can communicate without actually talking 🥺
I love how all dragons are a reflection of each of their owners like even tho Barf and Belch aren't the smartest they can be whenever they actually try
- Snotlout and Hookfang are both hotheaded and never really listen
- Fishlegs and Meatlug both are sweet, smart, resourceful and jealous sometimes hehe
- The twins and Barf and Belch are crazy and dumb but can be smart and strong whenever they need to be
- Astrid and Stormfly are both authoritative and badasses but also caring
- Hiccup and Toothless are both natural born leaders
Astrid built the ballista
Fun fact: Mala means bad in Spanish and it makes sense if you think about it cause Mala is BADASS HAHDHSHAHA😂 sorry I make bad jokes like that
Hiccup referring to Tuffnut as one of his best friends is adorable 🥺
"Flattery has no effect on me, mainly because I never hear any" dudeee ruff that's so saddd🥺😭
JAJDHHSJSJS TUFFNUT REALLY SAID "IT'S TIME FOR BALLISTA-NUT" AND JUMPED RIGHT OFF OF TOOTHLESS
And then him actually fighting Gruffnut is pretty badass I mean they threw actual punches and kicks and everything 😳
Why was Hiccup so cold towards Astrid? When she was just trying to help with his bounty problem
The way Toothless prevented Stoick from killing Savage 🥺🥺🥺
Now that I think abt it Hiccup got kidnapped so many times
Stoick punching Ryker and threatening him is one of the best things I've seen 🤩
Dude poor Snotlout was just insecure in ep4 And I love how Hiccup tried to help him and even then Snotlout still tried his best to show that he can be a leader
- i really loved how he learned that he couldn't just stop covering someone, I mean even when Astrid told him to "peel off and help Hiccup" he was like "no way I'm not leaving your wing" 🥺🥺🥺
Submaripper - tidal class, super powerful, prefer deeper open water and typically very reclusive. Extremely territorial and dangerous.
I LOVE HOW THE SUBMARIPPER SAVED HICCUP, and Toothless's face whenever he couldn't get Hiccup out and Barf and Belch breaking the pod to get him 🥺🥺🥺I can't
𝕃𝕖𝕒𝕣𝕟𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕤𝕝𝕖𝕖𝕡 𝕕𝕖𝕡𝕣𝕒𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟 𝕤𝕪𝕞𝕡𝕥𝕠𝕞𝕤 𝕨𝕚𝕥𝕙 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕥𝕨𝕚𝕟𝕤
- multifaceted disorder
Uncontrollable euphoria - Astrid
Lack of coordination - Heather
Mood swings - Snotlout
Complete catatonia
Cold ankles
Rash
Paranoia - Fishlegs
I CAN'T LOOKING AT THEM LIKE THIS IS JUST TOO FUNNY. NO ISTG EPISODE 7 IS GOLDDDD AND WHEN THE DRAGONS TOOK OVER 😂
Stoick is so fine 🤩
JAHDHAHSHA HICCUP REALLY OUT HERE FAT-SHAMING HIS DAD when poor Stoick is just trying to tell him that going after Viggo only for revenge is neither safe nor the right thing to do
- "What? What do you mean? You love revenge. Revenge is your thing. Weren't they gonna name you Stoick the Vindictive before... Well you know." *signals to Stoick*
Shadow wings - ep7 they follow, herd and shadow. Big one isn't as fast or maneuverable. Small ones are smart and quick. The big one looks like the submaripper.
AND THE WAY TOOTHLESS DEALT WITH THE LAST OF THEM. It was amazingggg he dived down towards a lil pond but he couldn't see cause of the dust and so HE USED THAT ONE SHOT THAT LETS HIM SEE TO KNOW WHEN TO GO BACK UP AND ALLOW THE BIG SHADOW WING TO CRASH AGAINST THE WATER.
The Flying Shatter-Scatter move with Shattermaster and Windshear was so cool and it's also basically the only thing that has pierced through dragon-proof ships
Bro I really wanted to see Astrid saving Toothless when she saw he was in danger in ep8
I DONT WANT HEATHER TO LEAVE UGHHHH 🥺
HEATHER AND FISHLEGS ARE SO GOALS I CANT 🥺🥺🥺🥺😭 I LOVE THEM TOO MUCH
Everyone's shocked faces whenever Hiccup and Fishlegs weren't thinking the same thing HAHDHSHABA
Toothless's facial expressions whenever he saw Astrid was in danger and the way he grabbed Snotlout and went down the volcano just to try and save her- I love their relationship 🥺
And how Hiccup was so worried when he saw Astrid in the lava and the way he grabbed her 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Dude I shipped Throk and Mala so harddd
And the red night terrors ufff we love them
Tuffnut just killed Macey
Ruffnut is so badass bro I love her she really had a sword to her neck and was like "take your best shot pal"
Project Shellfire: a weaponized dragon, Shellfire - tidal class, Titanwing, bigger than a submaripper, long range firing capabilities.
Hiccup just saved Astrid from falling to the water and the way he looked at her right after he put her down- he seemed so concerned I can't 🥺😭
BLINDSIDED ALSO LOVE THIS EPISODE 🤩🥺
First name Astrid calls out is Hiccup's 🥺
Her eyes omg
The way she started hyperventilating and the way he held her hand with both of his and the way he kneeled down next to her and made sure she knew that he was still there and the way Toothless's facial expression went 🥺😔 and the way he put his wing on her legs to try and cover her or protect her 🥺🥺🥺I can't
I mean Imagine how Astrid must've felt I just can't I'd be so stressed out and desperate and the next day she was just like I'm going to look for my dragon idc
No dude because the way Hiccup grabbed her by the waist to prevent her from falling off of Toothless and how both of their expressions softened whenever he told her not to apologize and whenever she hugged him 🥺
I love how the twins are trying to learn how Astrid feels but Ruffnut takes advantage of "blind" Tuffnut and has him run off of a cliff
AND HOW HE CAUGHT HER AND GOT SO NERVOUS WHEN THEY BOTH FELL DOWN 🥺 wait now that I'm watching it again he actually prevented her from getting hit in the head omg
"Of course she's not gonna hide. What was I thinking? She's Astrid."
MISTAKE whenever Astrid took the dragons out of their pens they weren't wearing their saddles and now that they've found them they have them on.
Them spending time with each other's dragons is so funny
Nonono I can't this is the beginning of it all! The beginning of Hiccstrid dating is HERE!!!! and that scene whenever he tells her that she's strong and they'll get through it and he holds her arm and then slowly moves down to her hand 🥺 I love them too much I can't- I want what they have. HE WAS GOING IN FOR THE KISS TOO I CANTTTTT OK THIS IS TOO MUCH
"There will always be a Hiccup and Astrid. Always."
TOOTHLESS'S FACE 😳
I love how Meatlug got so serious after she heard Toothless's distress call
ASTRID IS SO BADASS I CAN'T SHE'S JUST SUCH A NATURAL AND AUTHORTITAVE I LOVE HER
THE HAND THING WITH ASTRID AND THE TRIPLE STRYKE 😩
Fishlegs riding Hookfang is HILARIOUS
That final scene is gold bro I just can they're too perfect I mean we get Toothless and Stormfly messing around in the background and then we get Hiccup scooting towards Astrid so that their shoulders were touching and also Hiccup asking Astrid if she's really ok and then him telling her that he never stops worrying about her and her saying that she feels the same way AND HER ASKING HIM ABOUT THE ALMOST-TO-BE-FIRST-KISS IN THE FOREST and him getting all nervous and being like "no it wasn't perfect" and telling her that he thinks abt kissing her a lot AND HER BEING LIKE "this seems pretty perfect to me" AND THEN BAMM THE KISS UGHHH IM NOT CRYING OK... yes I am😭
Hiccstrid kiss count: 2😘
I love how Astrid comforts Hiccup and puts her hand on his chest
Wait shit I completely forgot That Snotlout is actually the one that came up with ~Hiccstrid~ hehehehe -> also the first one to notice that they were acting kinda sus (nvm he thought one of them had a gambling problem)
Ruffnut's impression of Viggo is actually pretty accurate
Heather knowing about Hiccup and Astrid and just getting the gang away so that they can have a few seconds alone
OMG THE SUBMARIPPER I LOVE IT!! It is the natural and hated enemy of the Shellfire
The Triple Stryke let Dagur ride him
HICCUP CALLED DAGUR BROTHER I CANT
No and when they kissed IN FRONT OF THE GANG AND THEY WERE ALL LIKE 😳😦 AND "This. Changes. Everything." Iconic
I can't imagine watching this season by season and having to deal with that cliffhanger LIKE WHUT- the whole volcano just exploded and ur telling me that's IT!! Nope nope nope
#how to train your dragon#httyd#httyd rtte#race to the edge#RTTE#riders of berk#rob#defenders of berk#dob#astrid hofferson#hiccup haddock#dagur the deranged#Heather#ruff and tuff#ruffnut#tuffnut#fishlegs#snotlout#stoick the vast#hiccup x astrid#hiccstrid#toothless#toothcup
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Viggo's master plan (and evidence proofing it or going against it)
Proof of Viggo’s ‘fake war’:
Viggo somehow knows where Ryker would strike next
When the Shellfire attacks Caldera Cay, Viggo escapes. And then Ryker surrenders in Outcast Island, as if he knew that they would go there, while the Shellfire attacks at a different island (Viggo might even be switched control over the Shellfire during that time, but that won’t add any proof).
Viggo conveniently appears to Hiccup after the Shellfire attacks Beserker Island.
We never saw Ryker commenting about killing/destroying his brother during his attack at the Edge
Viggo’s chuckle in the end (Y'know, he could’ve just remembered a funny joke and laughed about it, but I’ll add it anyway xD).
Proofs/ thoughts that are against Viggo’s ‘fake war’:
If Viggo would want to damage the riders, he could’ve just relocated his base and plan an ambush with Project Shellfire while providing them no solution and keeping the Dragon Eye safe.
It doesn’t make sense for Viggo to risk so much resources just for this mission. Ryker and the army was probably prepared to be lost. But logically, risking a battlestation as a mere tool to be lost is too wasteful, even for Viggo.
Why would Viggo unleash a Submaripper to deal with the Shellfire? (I will try to rationalize this below)
So, if we were to consider the betrayal plot was a conspiracy, what exactly what Viggo’s masterplan? In my opinion, it might be to get close enough to defeat the riders from the inside and to destroy the Edge. Though his methods using the Dragon Eye is beyond me (unless he just wants to toy with Hiccup, promising him victory but then leaving him biting the dust)
My Theory on His ‘Fake War’ Plan
So, the first step of Viggo’s plan would be to attempting to win the riders’ sympathy by helping them predict Ryker’s next attack (which is suspiciously correct) and promising them information. During the attack in Caldera Cay, he took the time to escape. While it is not seen on screen, it is most likely that he rejoined his army and predicted that riders will attack Outcast Island (because he is Viggo lol), before commanding that Ryker should make them more confused by surrendering and presenting the other side of the story. He also orchestrated the attack in Beserker Island (he might even be in the Shellfire ship), before approaching Hiccup with the Eye, to further make him believe with his story. It is indeed a risky move, but like what we’ve seen previously, he would be willing to manuever in risky waters for ultimate victory. Even if he ends being imprisoned, Viggo is sure that they won’t stand a chance with the Shellfire unless they enlist his help (But Snotlout made it much more easier by nearly killing him lol). He then summons the Submaripper as a part of his own personal plan which Ryker and the rest doesn’t know about.
About him awakening Submaripper, yeah that’s very questionable. At first, I thought he might had actually planned to kill/ blackmail Hiccup, using the presence of the Submaripper to escape blame if someone was to catch him during the act. If he was able to kill Hiccup during that moment, his game would’ve ended there, with the rider’s ‘viking chief’ dead. But I doubt he would even try that, especially above a Night Fury and a Submaripper. He’d be dead after his nemesis’ is killed.
So, I think he did it to either:
to distract the Shellfire, so he could have enough time to get the Dragon Eye back and escape
To make his cooperation convincing to the riders (which I highly doubt due to the losses in stake).
or both
Ultimately, the Submaripper allowed Viggo to be dropped by Hiccup, due to him “slowing them down”. While this action could have contradicted his plans to sink the Island, I think Viggo perfectly knew that the Shellfire would’ve suceeded in activating the volcano anyway, given the damage done to it at the last attack by the Eruptodon. He probably didn’t expect the baby Eruptodon, but it made little difference anyway. However, the baby dragon did not only help the riders, it was also inadvertedly working in Viggo’s favor instead, stalling enough time to retrieve the Eye.
From what I remember, Viggo also didn’t know where the riders were keeping the Eye after Snotlout imprisoned him in the burning stable, so I think after getting dropped off, he probably decided to search for the Eye in the base, before planning an escape. Turns out, he doesn’t find it, and Astrid unexpectedly found him out (again). He probably managed to best her “somehow” (wth Astrid, you could have kicked his ass). While he knew the gang would be willing to risk their own life for duty, he also knew that they could only be blackmailed by threatening their team-mates instead. Especially Hiccup (who most definitely knows where the Eye is compared to the others. Not to mention the Viggo’s delight of seeing his archnemesis admitting his victory) in the case of Astrid. So he forced Stormfly to fly after Hiccup to the volcano. If his plan was to be successful, maybe Viggo would even consider to kill Astrid as unlike the Buffalord, he has no use of Astrid. Plus, Astrid’s death would cripple Hiccup and the gang further more, because losing the Eye and their base is just not enough.
The one thing he didn’t expect, is Hiccup throwing the Eye to the volcano (from the look of his face, he is genuinely surprised. But I could be wrong). This small detail destroyed his plans and left him with nothing. Eventually, even his life is lost (If he did indeed die)
But this theory might not be true considering the proofs against this theory, I could also be possible that things went out more similar to what had happened in Viggo’s story.
Ryker’s Betrayal plot:
Like Viggo’s explanation, Ryker manages sway the hunters to betray Viggo and destroy the riders themselves with the power they gained through Project Shellfire. Viggo could have eavesdropped on their conversation, so he knows Ryker’s next move.
Seekng the opportunity to escape when Caldera Cay is attacked, he went to find the Dragon Eye (and some new clothes) and give it to Hiccup, deciding to work together for him until the time has come for him to take back the Eye.
If this was the case, summoning the Submaripper makes more sense. Viggo would never be able to take over the weapon anymore, so he might as well destroy it along with his brother.
When the Shellfire leaves the battle, Viggo takes the chance to find the Eye, probably by searching for it in the base (because again, he didn’t know where the Eye was). Astrid discovers his actions and probably tries to stop him, only to be defeated. He then goes after Hiccup, for his sweet victory. Still, there is a possibility that he would betray his promise kill Astrid anyway, that is until Hiccup throws the Eye to the volcano.
So, in the creative point of view, I prefer the first one, but the second one is the most logical IMO xD.
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