#wtf happened in that panel. how did it go so wrong.
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sunny-knight · 2 months ago
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FORGETTABLE AU PAGES - LIVE REACTION
@forgettable-au Go. Read. It. 🫵
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….oh my god.
ok y’know what, i’m not even gonna do my usual summarizing thoughts before going through the pages beat for beat- we’re diving STRAIGHT in.
strictly formatting these is overrated anyway
THE FIRST PAGE!!!
First of all awwwwww I hope we get to see Riverperson again… Flowey resting his head on top of Papyrus’ in the raft melts my heart as well.
For the first bit of dialogue here with Floweys internal monologue- OUGH I LOVE IT! I will NEVER get sick of getting into his head, he’s like us! a theorist! his thought process here is so me.… “ive never thought of the possibility that Papyrus might have been involved as well…” Welllllllll… You’re half right.
Im also looking forward to seeing the part of Wingdings’ story that explains Papyrus’ conveyor belt related trauma- cause cmon man whats wrong with conveyer belts 😭
Papyrus basically having a conversation with himself while Flowey just goes and does his own thing is SO REAL ALSO I LOVE HIM SO MUCH
ALSO LMAO THE BACKPACK IS ACTUALLY THERE- THAT WAS A THING I POINTED OUT AS A JOKE IN THIS POST- funny to know that was just a mistake, BUT IM ONTO YOUR LITTLE TRICKS!!! I KNOW ITS LORE RELATED SOMEWHERE!!!!
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PAPYRUS’ REACTION HERE HAS ME SCREAMING IN AGONY, I DIDN’T THINK IT WOULD GET WORSE- BUT spoilers. it gets so much worse. I mean I- kind of- spoiled it with the drawing at the very beginning….BUT- YOU SHOULD HAVE READ THE COMICS BEFORE READING THIS!!!
GOOGLY EYES PAPYRUS SPOTTED!!!! OHHH I COULDN’T BE HAPPIER and speaking of facial expressions I hate (love) Floweys smug ass in these panels 😭
THE 2ND TO LAST PANEL- OH THIS SHOT BEHIND AND BELOW PAPYRUS IS JUST GORGEOUS HIS SKULL AND JAW AND NECK- ITS ALL SO WELL DRAWN
PAGE 3
Talking about the actual dialogue for a second- trying not to get too carried away only focusing on the visuals.
Im very concerned we’re going to have a moment with the power going out, Papyrus and Flowey being stuck without the elevator just like Alphys and Wingdings were. Some chicanery is gonna happen comparing and contrasting how they handle that compared to the 2 scientists. Ofc thats a lot of speculation- But I cant help but feel like the talk about “the energy hopfully lasting long enough” is leading up to something….not fun.
Maybe what they do down here is a weird time mumbo jumbo that is important to make what happens in the past- happen. Maybe thats why Gaster is watching them…
“You should talk to my brother more!!!” …..I want to disagree- but also I want them to be friends and think they COULD get along
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“That would be weird!!” reference to when you call Papyrus in Alphys’ room….i see what you did there….
Also Floweys logic here about having hisss permission just made me giggle so much LMAO I absolutely love the repeated “Papyrus is hesitant” followed up by “Flowey presenting a sorta??? convincing argument” and Papyrus just being like “…ALRIGHT!”. Very fun and in character for him
PAGE. 5.
When I tell you- this K I L L E D. M E. GOD THIS IS SO WELL DRAWN???!?!?!?! I CAN FEEL THE SINKING DREAD- OOOUUUUGGHHHH THE DETAIL IN HIS EYE SOCKETS!!!!!!!!
This incredibly depicts feeling of sound filling your head- just AAAA IT HITS SO HARD AND IT HURTS SO GOOD.
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“Are you- uh..feeling anything?” Subtle Flowey. Very subtle. Though I love Papyrus’ complete misread of what he’s asking HEHDHE. Yknow, Its a belief among ghost hunters that “cold spots” mean theres a ghost lurking around. HM.
Also wtf are you talking about- Papyrus?? you “sometimes” have nerve endings 😭?? That line is incredibly in character answer for him, but also what?? maybe im missing something obvious. Ough the detail on the hand bone…
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WINGDINGS!!!!!!!! MY GOAT!!!! AND ALSO SANS!!!!! MY SLIGHTLY LESSER GOAT WHOM I STILL LOVE!!!!!!!!!!
God I wonder where this conversation is going to go- wheres Wingdings going with this? is he gonna tell him about the tape?? why did he LIE ABOUT THE CREVICE IN THE FIRST PLACE???? IM STILL HUNG UP ON THAT!
Its clear Wingdings plans on researching timelines because of the tape things, ofc, im just surprised he’s informing Sans about it since he’s proven to want to keep at least some of it a secret. At the very least he seems to really enjoy- controlling information.
Im calling it now, Wingdings is a pathological liar. (bold ass claim especially because he only lied once so far BUT IM CALLING IT!!!)
Also the talking and writing in wingdings here is gonna make me immediately rule out Alphys being involved in this conversation.
IN CONCLUSION!
I am. LOSING. MY MIND. OUUUGHH THE ART JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER, THE PLOT AND THE TENSION!!! IT JUST GETS THICKER AND THICKER. I can promise you, the pages are ALWAYS worth the wait…as a wise man once said…
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(the real quote, if you dont know is by Shigeru Miyamoto and replate ‘comic’ with ‘game’)
#forgettable au#live reaction#unfiltered thoughts#that elevator moment will be the godamn death of me#THAT STUNG SO GOOD#im so nervous and excited for Wingdings and Sans’ interaction though about timelines#cause we haven’t had a one on one between them in a HOT minute#im also nervous and excited for like 1000 other things but Tumblr only allows so many tags#….but lemme run out the clock#im nervous and excited for how Flowey and Papyrus’ friendship will develop#same with Alphys and Wingdings’#excited for a potential Wingdings and Asgore interaction maybe? id just love to see them interact and the jack stauber amv gives me hope#also finding out exactly what Wingdings falls into#more Papyrus having war flashbacks#if we will get any flashes back to the surface/escape Flowey and Papyrus’ perspective for a bit?#Wingdings fucking SNAPPING#always excited for that#honestly finding more out about Wingdings in general since he’s the only character sorta exclusive to this AU and not apart of the game#More information about Sans’ perspective on things#also when and how angels/the player comes into all of this like how exactly will he come to that conclusion#how will Wingdingd HANDLE this news?#will more tapes from the future come in?#will we eventually get to SEE those tapes being made??#I think ive said this before but I think Wingdings is gonna handle this news a lot better and somehow worse than Sans#cause we know what he does in the end#but also he seems pretty damn happy when he makes that tape talking about how cool as shit the angel is#but I digress#IM ALSO SO EXCITED FOR THE MUCH AWAITED METTATON CAMEO#THAT IS SAID TO LAST 50 PAGES AND BE IN THE STYLE OF MANGA#dammit i ran out of tags-
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spongebobafettywap · 5 months ago
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i think i know that namor blog, at least the most popular one on tumblr that does reblog fundraisers for Palestine every once in awhile.
whoever runs it is quite the character : a namor fan sure but also a big destique shipper who loved the xmen blue origins retcon way too much because "og plan" and forgave everything spurrier did to nightcrawler prior to it when it happened on top of approving how toxic mystique and destiny's relationship became because "it makes it more complex" and saying a "fuck you azazel" as some kind of final victory cry after explaining to a very unfortunate yet curious anon who was just asked wtf spurrier did in the one shot cuz it was that badly written... even tho the retcon made nightcrawler's entire existence life and everything else in-between turn around azazel's character, all spurrier did to destique is take every shitty thing azazel did to mystique that austen came up with and make it destiny's doing and turned mystique into a cretinous semen syringe who's barely related to the child she always wanted and doesn't actually care about rogue
i'm giving this description in particular because that stand is the exact opposite of what you share on your blog and that blogger can't handle someone who disagrees with a take at all to the point of blocking people like they're porn bots instead of just blocking a tag they use. especially because you guys' stand on politics aligns more than it diverges so a compromise for a better cause and spreading information should always be the way to go... unless one of the parties is THIS immature which is the case for whoever runs that blog
you're not missing out on much from the blogger : insufferable is a good description of that blog during the early days of the retcon and i bailed it before marvel got nightcrawler to kill people for fun so i can't imagine how much that blogger's world crumbled between how the "added complexity" destique got was shoved under the rug and forgiven in one panel, nightcrawler's character lost by self-respect he got once krakoa was over and the krakoa finale was a crap fest all together to any and all characters. the blogger also was fascinated by the sandman tv show and had a very defensive stance on neil gaiman decision making for how it was adapted and changed so i don't know how all that turned out when gaiman became the subject of controversy due to plenty of allegations he received including sex trafficking charges
Ah yeah that was my suspicion, honestly I always suspected that someone would try and argue with me about the Destiny retcon rather than block me for having my opinions haha.
I mean obviously they're entitled to block whoever they want but personally I think unless someone is like an outright bigot or has done you wrong its kind of stupid. From what you've said it seems like they don't even want to have discussions with people who don't share the same opinions on fiction which is very bizarre. Personally I don't mind differing opinions in my inbox about fiction, I'll admit I have deleted some comments in replies for my other posts that reference some story line I don't like just because I don't want that post to end up with notifications of people to discuss something and lead to an argument. People can do that on posts that actually invite a discussion not meme posts or things along that line, but even then I haven't blocked those people lmao.
But like you said it seems we are more aligned on like real life morality so if I'm supposed to read a blog post about verified fundraisers and they've blocked me over opinions I have on their favourite ship then so be it but maybe that person shouldn't be doing verification campaigns if they're so ready to block.
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weirdcat1213 · 2 years ago
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ok i guess this is it
the end of the road
i may do an actual post about it later but fellas, its been an honor suffer read with all of you :3 the meta, memes and reactions? priceless
thank you @revenantghost for bringing us together for the best group activity ever: suffering and crying in a corner :D
lets go one more time
vol 14 thoughts
chap 1:
-THIS ONLY HAS 8 CHAPTERS WTF
-longer than he has been alive? oh thats adorable
-"that is how...i lived my life" why do i feel so sad all of a sudden
-OH YIKES WHAT
-ok damn i get that now, legato is really fast damn
-again, when did vash's coat turn black
-oh shit chronica no
-pls leave vash alone legato
-for some reason vash feel really quiet right now. thinking back to other fights, those didnt feel as quiet as this one, i wonder why
-yeah,,,,sadly i dont think he can control his body either...
-oh ok i didnt notice that the 1st time but thats so interesting. spoilers for 98 but in that one vash's decision is quick, a decision he made against the ropes. he thought about ways to avoid it and then gave up at the last second. here however, he has been thinking about it the moment he started to fight legato i think. like only one man could survive that encounter. he knew from the start it was either the plan (cuz cmon he doesnt care about whether he lives or dies) or legato. at least in 98 the decision was in a quiet setting, imagine giving up your values (and with them a huge part of what you think is your heart) while you are fighting to the death
-HE DOESNT WANT TO DO THIS BRO LEAVE HIM ALONE
-GEESUS oh god no. is he even there or is it vash's imagination
-oh nvm he is here, hi livio
-"dreaming saint" may be one of the saddest nicknames he's ever gotten :c thats kind of what he is and that makes me sad
-and...there he is. not even a word, just him
-:c
chap 2:
-"overkill" huh? maybe
-you did that to choose :c you did what you could. god, he needs to hear more how him trying is enough.
-oh god hes spiraling, this is not the time :c i get it tho
-"you always give up hope so easily" and thats what he did when he chose
-its too early for me to cry, tears go back in
-wait chronica was in the nomad right? is she...yknow...
-i love that panel with meryl picking up vashs head a little bit cuz it gives me the feeling finally someone can protect him from everything, let my man rest pls
-oh shit bro you good?
-oh :c.... oh
-oh god ok its time for the cable
-oh god not the fucking feathers
-if i keep reading today im gonna start crying
chap 3:
-oh my god its the beginning
-he IS a clever bastard ill give you that
-the feathers :c
-oh my, things are happening (aka my cue to cry)
-its time knives, youre gonna fall and hit your stupid head so hard
-YES MERYL YES YOU ARE SO RIGHT MERYL
-NOT THE SCHOOL TRIPS OMG THATS ADORABLE
-...ok i get why *hes* saying that. the conflic, i think, pretty doesnt exist anymore for him but for knives is very real and really present. he may be a little stupid to understand balance and how wrong he is, but at the same time there was a reason for all of this. he committed the same mistakes humans did doing his stupid little crusade but you cant tell little knives, the one who hoped to connect with humans, that he is foolish and reigniting a conflict. its just 2 really different perspectives
chap 4:
-knives is a bastard, and an asshole and he hurt vash so much but damn it. i cant hate him, not after processing trimax for the 2nd time.
-anyway
-oh god not the cable
-VASH OMG MY SON MY MAN MY LITTLE MAN
-GET TFO LEGATO PLS, CANT A MAN BE UNSCOSNCIOUS IN PEACE???
-WOLFWOOD PLEASE TAKE THIS BASTARD AWAY AND TELL VASH HOW MUCH YOU LOVE HIM
-IT HAPPENED AGAIN, WHY DOES MY BODY REACT SO VIOLENTLY WHEN I SEE REM. ALSO WHY DID IT HAPPEN AGAIN
-also im always gonna say this is vash's mind and not ghosts cuz...idk....it doesnt feel like it. the ghosty presence feels more real in stampede but thats just me
-HIS LITTLE EYES AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
-THATS WHAT I MEAN, THATS TOO MEAN FOR A GHOST
-ALSO :C
-hes so tired, hes so fucking tired
-oh wait oh shit
-im granting you nothing you bitch
-oh god knives are you good
-oh yeah hes still there
-oh ok so thats why that plan doesnt work. ok continue
-oh he looks so weird and majestic...you really have to wonder what was nightow thinking when he designed this
-they are so positive, can i have some of that? a gram should do it
-you can easily replace "because i stand with vash the stampede" with jeesus but vash the stampede is cooler im sorry
-also kudos to them for never having a "yknow what im sick of you, i never needed you" kind of arc. thanks nightow. they are married from the beginning til the end
-im...not really sure about where did vash come from but at this point it doesnt matter, im glad hes here <3
chap 5:
-vash in a fucked up mind palace, i win
-"ticket to the future" oh no
-I DIDNT NOTICE HIS ARM IS MISSING???? FUCK???
-HES UP! REJOICE
-FEATHER
-"what a cruel joke" :c
-ONE LAST TIME BABY CMON
-FUCK OK THAT WAS SCARY
-OKOKOK WOWOWOW THAT SO INTERESTING. stampede knives was like "hey this place seems nice for plants, me and my bro. lets keep it" but trimax knives want to literally yeet everything humans have touched. in his mind he can live with other plants idk, in like the middle of space? thats so interesting...
-"what is that noise" YOUR MF SIBLINGS BITCH
-....cmon man. cmon
-were you united by hatred tho? i believe some plants hated humans but not all of them
-leave your own brother alone ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
-"this is insane" it is insane, so you better fucking appreciate what hes doing rn
-AH GEESUS NO HERE IT COMES, THE FUCKING CABLE
-LEAVE HIM ALONE YO
-HURRY VASH HURRY
-"dont touch me" not even us....just him
-ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :c
-i fucking love those panels where nightow puts a lot of details and dark lines only to make the next page the softest traces seen by man
-FUCK HIS BODY NOOOOOOOOOO
-OH I FUCKING LOVE THAT PANEL. GIVES ME "ANGEL WHO JUST FUCKING FELL FROM HEAVEN" VIBES
-ALSO KNIVES SHUT UP
-[sidenote: emptiness from the signalis ost just started playing and now i want to bite someone]
-TICKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET :C
chap 6:
-THATS MY FUCKING GIRL
-shut up vash, pls shut up
-oh vash...if it was that easy. but i guess thats the point. its not easy, it will never be easy to communicate, but we have to try. more people should remember that
-"what matters, is that you communicate. that you understand the person next to you is breathing and existing" fucking beautiful nightow
-"i wonder if he'll laugh again. if he'll follow his ideals again" im so...
-oh knives hey buddy
-i hate it, i fucking do but he looks so fucking sad when the plants let him go. when they decide if he wants to keep going down the path of hate he'll have to do it alone. and in his mind i dont think he has ever being alone. it makes me sad im sorry
-using the feather is so smart actually
-oh hes here
-ITS THE SCENE FUCK HERE WE GO NO
-FINAL BATTLE TIME MFSSSSS
-YO KNIVES YOU GOOD CUZ WOW
chap 7:
-OH ON THIS ONE YOU DIDNT EVEN GET TO HEAR HER FINAL WORDS? THATS MESSED UP
-THIS IS IT HERE WE FUCKING GO
-YES PLS KNIVES CMON
-honey...no...pls. let it go, theres literally nothing left to do.
-THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME BUT STILL CMON VASH
-DONT BE A LEGATO RN KNIVES
-oh?
-OH SHIT
-[the promise is playing. the fucking promise is playing]
-YOU "WERE"???? WELL SHIT ON MY FEELINGS NIGHTOW SURE????
-KNIVES???? YO????
-WELL FUCK ME NONONONONON PLS GIVE ME REM BACK PLS PH GOD OH FUCK
-OH SHIT TF IS THAT
-SHIT
-YES PLS RUN, THATS LITERALLY WHAT YOU GUYS COULD HAVE BEEN DOING ALL THIS TIME. YOU COULD HAVE RUN AWAY TOGETHER (IN A FRATERNAL WAY)
-he is sadly a stupid idiot but HES MY STUPID IDIOT
-LIVIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE FUCKING MVP
-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLS GIVE ME BACK WOLFWOOD PLS, I NEED HIM BACK. WHY CANT HIS GHOST TALK TO VASH HUH?????
-ah fuck...them flying away together it looks so beautiful
chap 8:
-HERE WE ARE HERE I AM FUCK ME
-its is a never ending song isnt it
-my man deserved to rest more than 6 months
-hey knives honey why are you saying "hes crucial for you"? is it because you have internalized that humans will keep you around if you seem to be valuable for them? do you think that if vash is crucial they wont kill him? in the many years you have lived you dont know any other ways to ask for help than guaranteeing there will be something to be gained? huh?
-that kid has to live with one of The Traumas ever huh?
-IM GONNA CHOOSE TO BELIEVE HE LIVES IN THE FUCKING TREE CUZ HIM JUST DISSAPEARING IN THE AIR? TOO SAD. TOO FUCKING SAD. I WANT HIM BACK AS WELL
-YES YOUVE DONE MORE THAN ENOUGHHHH, HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO YELL THIS *looks at publication date* right
-i dont remember your name doc but damn, you are everything.
-ALSO 1ST AN OLD LADY WITH HER GRANDDAUGHTER SAVE VASH AND THEN A DOC WITH HIS KID SAVE VASH??? SOMETHING SOMETHING ABOUT FAMILIES AND MAKING A SPACE FOR VAHS WHO LOST HIS FAMILY
-you are so fucking stupid and i love you
-also where did he get...yknow...everything
-you should do that...im begging you to do that pls. get all of that, just live peacefully pls
-MY GIRLS ARE HERE :'D
-YOU SHOULD FEEL ASHAMED, LEAVING MY GIRL MERYL LIKE THAT
-stooooop :'c my heart, this is too many ":D"
-THEIR FACE GOD I LOVE THEM SM PLS DONT LEAVE ME HERE
-GIRLS WHERE ARE YOUR GUNS LMAO XD
-the dumbest little song ever, god i could eat this man
-LINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
-LIVIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
-ah fuck...i ended up crying again and i still dont know why :'D
what a fucking, FUCKING TRIP. this is literally one of the best things the internet has ever done. i want to hug everyone who participated on this. we did it. we fucking did it
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sheblah · 5 years ago
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so hey wtf
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makeste · 4 years ago
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BnHA Chapter 322: IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME
Previously on BnHA: Endeavor was all, “Kirishima please take Hagakure and Aoyama and put them away somewhere out of sight until we’re finally ready for the U.A. Traitor Plot.” Shouto was all “HEY DEKU DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT MAYBE YOU WANDERING THE STREETS LOOKING LIKE A GOTH PRAYING MANTIS IS EXACTLY WHAT AFO WANTS.” Deku was all “I’M SORRY I CAN’T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY CRUSHING MARTYR COMPLEX AND ACCUMULATED TRAUMA.” Mineta was all “HEY DEKU YOU SWEET THANG, IF I COULD REARRANGE THE ALPHABET I’D PUT ‘U’ AND ‘I’ TOGETHER, ANYWAYS HMU 💖”, or at least that’s what fandom apparently thought he said. Everyone was all “WELL SINCE WE’RE BACK HERE IN KAMINO WE SHOULD DO THE THING” and did the whole “launching someone into the air to save someone by dramatically grabbing their hand” thing that everybody fucking loves to do in Kamino so damn much. Iida was all “[bombards me and Deku with feels].” Deku was all, “ू(ʚ̴̶̷́ .̠ ʚ̴̶̷̥̀ ू).” I was all, “(;*△*;).” Horikoshi was all, “my work here is done.”
Today on BnHA: 
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oh my god.
so I finally went back to look at what I wrote up for 321 last week, and it’s a hot fucking mess lol, and I really don’t want to deal with that right now, so we’re just gonna skip it and go back sometime in the next few days or something because I really want to read the new chapter and I have no self control. I’M SORRY IIDA
oh my god he’s breaking out the narration word bubbles oh my god. shit is about to get epic isn’t it
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has there ever been a chapter that opened with these that WASN’T epic? serious question. anyways all aboard the Feels Express I guess
YEP
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I saved a bunch of other crying kaomojis when I was looking for ones to use in the “previously on” summary, and right now it’s looking like that was a good fucking decision you guys. if I’m going to be an emotional wreck I might as well do it in style ʕ ಡ ﹏ ಡ ʔ
AND BY THE WAY!!
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SHOULD I JUST THANK HORIKOSHI NOW AND SAVE MYSELF SOME TIME LATER. THE MAN ALWAYS FUCKING DELIVERS WHAT ELSE CAN I FUCKING SAY GODDAMN. IS IT TOO EARLY TO DECLARE THIS MY NEW FAVORITE CHAPTER? I SHOULD PROBABLY READ FURTHER THAN ONE PAGE BUT I’VE JUST GOT A FEELING
(ETA: it’s like. maybe my second favorite lol. A HUG WOULD HAVE PUT IT IN FIRST, I’M JUST SAYING.)
anyway so Ochako is releasing Iida, which is actually hilarious, because idk if you all know this but Iida can’t fucking fly you guys
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like, I assume Ochako released him because she already knew that Kirishima was in place to catch him, but I really love this split-second of panic on Iida’s part where he’s all “HMM, IS OCHAKO TRYING TO KILL ME, ACTUALLY”
LOL THERE’S A THOOM AND EVERYTHING
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that’s some plus fucking ultra on Ochako’s part right there. “IF THEY DIE THEY DIE” goddamn girl did you leave your chill in the same locker as Momo or what
now poor Kiri is all “DAMMIT DEKU ARE YOU PASSED OUT OR WHAT, I DIDN’T GET TO TELL YOU MY THING GODDAMMIT”
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oh my gosh he is curled up so small you guys oh my fucking lord
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RESIDUAL “LOST CHILD” FEELS FROM LAST WEEK COMING IN FOR A LANDING!! PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR SEATBACKS AND TRAY TABLES ARE IN THEIR UPRIGHT POSITIONS OMG ( ˚͈͈͈͈̥̆ ₍₎ ˚͈͈͈͈̥̆ )
LMAO IIDA IS TRYING TO CONFIRM THAT OCHAKO PLANNED FOR KIRISHIMA TO CATCH HIM, AND KIRISHIMA IS ALL “NOPE I’M JUST HERE BY CHANCE BRO”
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Ochako is the U.A. Traitor confirmed. Hagakure I am so sorry I doubted you. Ochako get over here. so are you Toga now or what
anyway so now everyone is running over before Iida can react to this casual announcement of his attempted murder. and now Mina is taking her turn, and Horikoshi is all “HEY BTW IS MINA CRYING ON THE LIST OF THINGS THAT MAKE YOU CRY?” and of fucking course it is, you bastard. I’m not made of stone
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( ɵ̥̥ ˑ̫ ɵ̥̥)
SLDKFJLSDKJ:LKWEJ
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IS THIS THE PART WHERE I JUST START SCREAMING INCOHERENTLY FOR THE REST OF THE CHAPTER LOL. SURE FEELS LIKE WE ARE GETTING TO THAT TIME
OH MY GOD KACCHAN AHHHHH
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I CAN’T OMG LOL I ALREADY GLANCED AT THE NEXT COUPLE OF PANELS, AND HE’S STARTING A WHOLEASS MONOLOGUE ABOUT ALL OF HIS DEKU FEELS AND OH MY GOD
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“HERE YOU GO MAKESTE, A WHOLE CHAPTER OF ALL YOUR FAVORITE META TOPICS JUST THE WAY YOU LIKE THEM” THANK YOU HORIKOSHI YOU’RE A BRO (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ
SLKASODIFALWKFLKJ
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THEY’RE JUST DEKU AND KACCHAN. holy shit you guys. because oh my god, but it’s like when Deku was talking to the Vestiges about saving Tomura, and he turned into his little child self because his heart and intentions were so pure?? and it’s like that again, except that we’re seeing them as their child selves because that’s who they are to each other?? like, not that they actually see each other as children, but just, they can see past all of the stuff on the outside and see each other to their cores, to who they are inside, and when they look at each other they each simply see the other boy that they’ve known their whole entire life. idk?? does that make sense??? DOES ANY OF THIS EVEN MAKE SENSE I DON’T KNOW WHAT WORDS ARE ANYMORE I’M JUST SWIMMING IN FEELS OKAY. I’M TRYING HERE
they’re just boys, is what I’m trying to say, I guess. just Deku and Kacchan. all the walls are down, all the gaps are bridged, and all it is is the one boy reaching out and connecting with the other, and just,,, (꒦ິ⌓꒦ີ)
OH MY GOD [GRABBING YOUR SHOULDERS AND POINTING WORDLESSLY] !!!1LK1
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DO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THIS IS YOU GUYS
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HOW PERFECTLY FUCKING RAD. WELL LET ME JUST ENJOY THESE LAST FEW SECONDS BEFORE MY LIFE IS FOREVER CHANGED, I GUESS
OH
MY
GOD
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CAN HE EVEN SAY THAT??? IS THAT EVEN LEGAL??? IS HE EVEN FUCKING ALLOWED TO SAY THAT. WHAT IS HAPPENING
OH MY GOD!!! OH MY GOD!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!!
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─=≡Σ((( つ ◕o◕ )つ
GET IN HERE, EVERYONE!!
Y’ALL HE REALLY DID IT. “BAKUGOU IS SUCH AN ASSHOLE HE HASN’T EVEN APOLOGIZED” WELL GUESS FUCKING WHAT. GUESS FUCKING WHAT, YOU GUYS!! LET’S FUCKING GOOOOO ((((/ ̄∇ ̄)/\( ̄∇ ̄\)))) AHHHHHHHHHH
OHHHHHHHH
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HEH. I’M ALREADY DEAD, HORIKOSHI, YOU BASTARD. DO YOUR WORST. GO ON
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YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON “US”, HE SAYS. ALONG WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF OMG. KACCHAN, YOU STUDIED!! YOU UNDERSTAND!! PREACH!!
OH NO!!
OH WAIT!!!!
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LOL I GOT SCARED THERE FOR A SECOND BUT ANYWAY! EVERYONE GET IN HERE!!! GROUP HUG!!! OR WAIT, NO, WHAT ABOUT -- [GRABS YOUR COLLAR URGENTLY] YOU DON’T THINK -- COULD THEY POSSIBLY -- !!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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ARE YOU GONNA HUG!??!?!?!?! I AM NOT OKAY!!!!!!! !!!hgk
REACTION PANELS LOL EVERYONE ELSE IS ON THE EDGE OF THEIR SEATS TOO WE’RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER
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LOL OCHAKO
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I KNOW THAT IN REALITY THIS FACE IS JUST BECAUSE SHE’S CONCERNED ABOUT DEKU’S FRAGILE STATE RN, BUT I KEEP THINKING ABOUT THE WAY SHE JUST DROPPED IIDA COLD THOUGH, AND I CAN’T HELP BUT FEAR FOR KACCHAN’S SAFETY LMAO. THAT FEELING WHEN THE CLASS PERV AND THE CLASS BULLY BOTH BEAT YOU TO THE LOVE CONFESSION. KACCHAN WATCH YOUR SIX
OKAY BUT LOOK, IT’S NOT THAT I DON’T LOVE ALL OF THE OTHER KIDS, OKAY, BUT CAN WE PLEASE!??!?! HELLO?!?!? MOMO, JUST -- COULD YOU JUST FOR A MINUTE --
NOOOOOOOOOOO
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“DON’T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT, I HAVE TO SAVE SOMETHING FOR THE FINALE” HORIKOSHI YOU BETTER WATCH OUT, I’M COMING FOR YOU WITH A TWO BY FOUR!! NOT THAT I’M UNGRATEFUL!! BUT JESUS CHRIST, YOU CAN’T JUST DO THAT, AND THEN ALMOST DO THAT, AND THEN NOT!! OMG I HATE YOU
sure let’s cut to Thirteen then, yay. I mean I’m glad they’re alive lol, don’t get me wrong
(ETA: I think that might have sounded a bit sarcastic so I just want to clarify that I really am happy Thirteen is alive and on the job again lol.)
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it’s just that if your name doesn’t begin with Baku or Deku I honestly am not interested for just these next five minutes okay lol. like I’m just gonna be completely honest. I am too invested lol, please, they were having a moment, JUST LET ME HAVE THIS PLEASE
OH DAMN U.A. GOT SWOLE AF
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THIS SCHOOL HAS BEEN JUICING WTF. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TARTARUS LOL
I’m literally not even reading the speech bubbles though omg I’m so sorry. I really hope there is not a quiz, I promise I will come back to it later scroll scroll scroll
okay so they brought him back to U.A. and he’s all tired and out of it yes
oh goody Hagakure knows all about the security system
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(ETA: is it just me or is Horikoshi really laying it on thick with the hints about these two guys lately? I’m on to you sir.)
THAT’S WONDERFUL NEWS. GLAD THIS CRITICAL KNOWLEDGE IS SAFE IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE TRUST
ffs Deku
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WHAT WILL IT EVEN TAKE TO CONVINCE YOU THEN?? SWEET JESUS
-- holy shit, what??!
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they know?? how did they find out??! holy shit???
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I’m about to cancel the whole of Japan lmao. fucking try me dudes
-- THE PRINCIPAL!?
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NEZU GET YOUR ASS DOWN HERE RIGHT NOW!! WHAT THE FUCK
“a ticking time bomb” tell you what, this man is just asking to be punched in the face. literally begging for it omg
(ETA: I have been advised that I misread this part; Rat Principal told everyone how safe U.A. was, but he’s not the one who ratted out Deku; that was “the rumors”, apparently. which, if I had to guess, were probably started by AFO.)
oh I see, so it’s to be Feels, Part II then
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he looks so sad and tired and lonely and she goes right for the hand, god bless. though if Kacchan’s not gonna hug him, you’d think someone would at least. or is it because he still smells bad. hmm
AND THE CHAPTER’S ENDING ON HER LOL WELL OKAY THEN
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I MEAN IT’S GREAT AND ALL, I LOVE OCHAKO REALLY I DO, BUT WE WERE PROMISED GREAT EXPLOSION MURDER GODS, WHAT GIVES SOB. I WAS ALL READY TO BREAK OUT INTO SONG AND EVERYTHING. SURE, HE DID THE APOLOGY, BUT WHERE IS THE FOLLOW-UP GODDAMMIT
(ETA: just to clarify the reason for my rambling here, I was really waiting for the hero name reveal and the presumed deeper meaning behind it lol. but I guess that is a conversation still to come! and we still need Deku’s response to the apology too for that matter. lots to look forward to still.)
WELL WHATEVER, SO THAT IS THE END OF THE CHAPTER! SHOUT OUT TO MY BOY RAT “LET ME JUST TELL EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD ABOUT DEKU’S SUPER SECRET IDENTITY, I GUESS THAT’S ALL RIGHT NOW, NOTHING BAD COULD POSSIBLY COME OF THIS” PRINCIPAL. listen here you little shit
anyway but if you’ll excuse me... IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME. IF I COULD FIND A WAY. I’D TAKE BACK THOSE WORDS THAT HAVE HURT YOU, AND YOU’D STAY. I DON’T KNOW WHY I DID THE THINGS I DID. I DON’T KNOW WHY I SAID THE THINGS I SAID. PRIDE’S LIKE A KNIFE, IT CAN CUT DEEP INSIDE. WORDS ARE LIKE WEAPONS, THEY WOUND SOMETIMES. BUM~ BUM~ BUM~, I DIDN’T REALLY MEAN TO HURT YOU. BUM~ BUM~ BUM~, I DIDN’T WANNA SEE YOU GO. I KNOW I MADE YOU CRY, BUT BABAY, IF I COULD TUUUUURN BACK TIIIIIIIIIIIME...
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daemonsrhaenyras · 3 years ago
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Umm hi so like 2 months ago ig I found the 100 and I just finished season 5. And I'm already the kind of person who just goes looking for spoilers so yah I kinda know the fucked up shit that's about to happen. Anyways I just wanna know what the hell happened and I know there's never a proper reason but like with supernatural or any other controversial shows at least there are some reasons uk the writer is sexist, racist etc some sort of explanation to the fucked up shit we just saw before our eyes, but everything with the 100 is so silent I'm mostly a Instagram person n tbh the 100 fandom on Instagram is kind of dead... I really don't understand the show was great frustrating n maybe even a few downer of a seasons but lyk wtf happened did the writers change also lyk at the end of season 5 I think it was written "end of book one" or something so was tht supposed to be the end n d networked forced them to do more season which maybe why they wrote the latter seasons so bad..... Godddd I just want an explanation 😂. It will be really helpful if u could answer literally anything honestly u don't have to respond either u could just totally ignore trust me I have no idea why this is bothering me either but yah..
Disclaimer: While I am a notorious multishipper, I do love Bellamy/Clarke above all others in this show, so that probably colors a lot of my interpretations of events. Additionally, because you did mention that you've looked up spoilers, I am not going to be avoiding them, so be warned.
I mean, most of what the fandom has puzzled together is from random comments or conjecture, none of the cast has outright said anything specifically about season 7 (that has been widely spread, to my knowledge anyway).
In my opinion, season 6 was really freaking great. A breath of fresh air after the grim middle seasons, in fact. Which I think made the absolute let down of season 7 even worse.
Most of 'what went wrong' is usually laid at the feet of Jason Rothenberg, the developer and head executive producer. Basically, the guy seems to be kind of a major dick.
Season 6 was meant to act as a sort of reset of the series (which was why S5 ended with the 'end of book 1' thing--and yes there was a big writer change up for seasons six and seven because of the heavy space/sci-fi aspect of it all), and in my opinion, it worked fairly well. (Yes, some areas of the plot seemed to be recycled from earlier storylines, but I didn't see it as a bad thing, more as a chance for the characters to grow from their previous actions.)
But, then a lot seemed to be happening off screen around the airing of S6 and the filming of S7 that soured things between him and some of the cast members and the fandom. (I am only bringing up what I remember as being relevant to the question of 'why season seven was the way that it was' not an entire laundry list of all behind the scenes drama someone else either has done or could do that.)
Since season 3 if not before, JR was hounded on social media by pretty much every faction of the fandom (but predominantly the Bellarke and Clexa fans) replying in bad faith to anything he tweeted with demands for what they want rather than engaging with his actual tweets. Like, tweeting 'we want Bellarke' or 'we want Clexa' to things that have nothing to even do with the show. This got worse and more vitriolic after Lexa's death and after Bellamy got with Echo.
He always seemed to have the attitude that the show was more high brow or some shit than the usual CW show (even though it's on the same damn network with a lot of the same audiences), and was above shipping and romance, and seemed to resent how often interviews, panels, and press would ask about the ships (canon and potentially future). He and others made statements at various points that might have been intended in a way that the fandom did not take it to be, causing a lot of friction.
Bob Morley (Bellamy) and Eliza Taylor (Clarke) got married in May of 2019 and announced it on social media the following month, during the airing of season 6. In fact, during one of the first episodes of the highly teased Clarke/Josephine body snatching storyline, likely stealing a lot of the fandom's attention away from the show.
Bob injured himself at some point during filming for one of the seasons, and at some point during the writing or filming of season 7, he asked for more time to recover. JR responded by basically writing out his character, and then writing in an ending for Bellamy that makes hardly any sense.
After Season 6, Jason decided he wanted to end the series with season 7 and 'give it a proper ending', while at the same time the series prequel was starting to be developed. Speculation on my part, but with the CW's go-ahead to work on the prequel and use an episode of S7 as a backdoor pilot, the announcement to end The 100 was probably more in service to transitioning over to the new show rather than ending The 100. The writing and characters of The 100 were consequently de-prioritized in favor of the writing for this 'new' character (Bill Cadogan) and his story.
Eliza was also supposed to direct Episode 7 of Season 7, but suffered a miscarriage around that time and couldn't direct. I do not know the exact timeline of events, but I think writing for the end of the season was still happening at that point, and in one of the last episodes of the season the show has Clarke basically mourning the loss of her dead daughter who was tortured into being catatonic. Again, don't know if that was already written at the point of her miscarriage, but like??? Seems like something that could have been avoided.
I'm sure there is a hell of a lot more that I just can't remember right now, so if anyone else wants to chime in, be my guest.
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cooloddball · 4 years ago
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This is going to be a super long analysis of jib3 starting with the opening ceremony to the closing ceremony so brace yourselves. 
Please note I believe in the breakup theory so maybe my opinion in this one might be biased so please don’t come for me, lol.
I will put it under the cut to avoid overcrowding your dashes with cockles shenanigans. 
Also, watch out for profanities and mature language.
And so it begins...
Opening ceremony
The camera used to record the opening ceremony is shaky. 
Misha, Jason Manns, and Jarpad seem to be having a lot of fun together and Jensen is just looking at his besties talking to the man he loves and he knows he can’t have that so he just stands there looking at them. Poor guy.
Jarpad asks who took Misha’s riffle? Things are awkward, I honestly don’t know what’s going on.
Misha kisses a plushie while making eye contact with Jensen and Jensen is like “oh, oh, wow” while making eye contact with Misha. LOL. Jack help me. This is a lot!!!
Jensen takes a plushie from Sebastian and Jared takes the one Misha had.
Are you guys flirting about trying to see whether you can keep plushies alive?
Misha throws something at the fans, I think he was throwing treats from earlier or whatever it was and Jensen says “Misha is still throwing” I mean why?
Cockles Panel
Jensen is so extra in this panel.
First of all, when he and Misha come out (no pun intended) a song starts playing and he starts dancing. Jensen is usually so poised while dancing but he is over the top throwing his back and shaking his tush for the mish.  I think he was trying a little too hard. Misha spares his ex-boyfriend’s tush a glance smiles and looks away. LOL. The whole thing was cringey, tbh. It was so unlike Jensen.
When Sebastian touches Jensen’s shoulder and says something to Jensen, he [Jensen]  laughs way too hard. I would say he laughs abnormally-it’s loud and he throws his whole body into it like he’s trying to prove what Sebastian was funny and it probably wasn’t. He laughs so hard he ends up right on Misha’s side. and Misha laughs at that though.
Rich says something about something in the sac that hurts(It’s incoherent) and Jensen says it hurts right here pointing at his heart (I can’t hear what they are saying exactly so if anyone knows please let me know)
I don’t know if Mark P. was going to hug Jensen or not or he was pointing at something behind Jensen, but at that moment, Jensen sees Sebastian going to hug Misha and whips his head away from Mark P’s direction so fast he almost broke his neck.
Sebastian humps Misha (these two are so playful I love them) and Jensen is just there acting awkward 
There’s a comment by Rich about “It’s over, the convention’s over I’m no longer your bitch” I don’t know who this is about.
Now, now, now. This whole time Rich is doing a kissy mouth with his fingers on the monitor behind Jensen and Misha. His hand is right where Misha is standing (you’ll understand once you watch it) so Jensen makes a kissy face back and Misha is blushing? Ummm wtf is going on here?
Jensen also does something strange that he never does during cockles panels he pulls his seat away from Misha.
Misha makes a very weird comment about Sebastian’s libido drying up and they have a weird conversation about libido and Viagra ads. It’s weird.
It gets even more awkward Jensen talks about bringing a total stranger, and a blind date. And it goes downhill from there with them. The it wasn’t you it was me speech. It was special. So heartbreaking. It was clearly not about the show but about their relationship. I always have a difficult time getting through that part. It’s so awkward that the fans are just there wondering what the hell is going on.
They decide to take questions and the fan is all over the place so Misha interjects but Jensen won’t let Misha say what he wants to say so he says, “This is why you make it awkward. You never let people finish what they are saying.” Ouch. Domestic dispute vibes anyone?
The way Jensen is looking up at Misha when he’s answering that question. It’s like he wants to sear his face into his memory before they leave Rome.
Jensen is explaining to a fan how one of the four sound stages they had on set was full of furniture and Misha adds “and soiled mattresses”  I mean what was the reason? Did they soil the mattresses with their [redacted]
A fan mentions something about Dean and Cas so these two adorable dorks smile and share a look. Things are starting to look up. Thank Jack.
The fan says something again (I can’t make out what he’s saying) but it must be something nice because they look at each other with smiles on their faces again.
Jensen playing with the head of his microphone. Is it just me or did the temperature rise a notch higher?
The way they look at each other when the fan says to help him choose the hottest female cast member on the show 
Then something freaky happens they say the exact same thing as twins or bffs do sometimes. LOL.
When they start talking about the hot women with the fans Misha moves his entire body and now instead of looking at the fans, he is seated facing Jensen.  The tension is simmering down.
A point to note is that in all their panels they always sit angled facing each other as opposed to facing the crowd save for this panel and DCCON 2019. But for DCCON I can understand that they weren’t comfortable being meant to be a J/2 panel and a creation event. So you know some people in that crowd are super mean to Mish and others to Jensen, so they had to tread carefully. But I digress back to the chaos.
They ask who wants to have a cockles panel the next year and they both raise their hands. I thought that was sweet
 It’s adorable how Jensen keeps repeating everything Misha is saying.
Misha forgets himself and moves too close to Jensen to listen to the song on the phone. Jensen turns to look at Misha, I don’t know what that look is but Misha backs away laughing.
Jensen’s face journey while listening to that song is gold.
Misha moves closer to listen to the song.  I have to say the way they are standing is not usually how two bros listening to music usually stand. If you know what I mean
 Misha agrees that’s definitely Jensen singing. Of course, he knows because Mr. “Jensen sings to me all the time”
He looks so proud of him.  I’d venture to say he’s happy to hear Jensen sing because he has always been so shy about that fact about himself. He even gives him a standing ovation. That’s so adorable. He loves him. My heart.
Jensen is so cute trying to deny it’s not him singing that song.  Yeah, it’s you, Jensen. Even your ex agrees it’s you and we bet he knows how your voice sounds in all kinds of situations ;)
we get a tingly feeling so we know it’s you. Jensen’s adorable smile when Misha says that. Aww.
The way they are not even looking at each other but they are seated the exact same way.
Allow me to explain to my friend here. Explains how his parents didn’t know whether he was a boy or a girl. Misha with the steel chair, “when did they figure out that you were a boy?”
How many years did they call you holly?
For six to seven years
Is it just me or is this conversation a flashback of teenage twink-lesbian Jensen years?
Fan asks whether Dean will ever forgive Cas. Watch Misha’s body language, he is trying to pacify himself by rubbing the back of his neck and fumbling with his shirt.
When Jensen says “ No!” without a moment’s hesitation, Misha looks distraught? I don’t know maybe I’m reading too much into this but I feel like this hit too close to home being that they were most likely broken up.
Misha however has a different opinion, “I think he has” 
Jensen says, “Wishful thinking” and that elicits a smile from Misha.
A fan asks about Dean giving Cas the trenchcoat back and things get interesting.  Weirdly, that Jensen can’t say the word gay out loud. He literally uses the word “unmanly” in its stead in the guise of censorship? It’s not a bad word Jensen you can say it. However, Misha and the fans say the word so I’m wondering who is censoring Jensen’s use of that word. He eventually says it but super fast.
Jensen says that saying “I always knew you would come back” is not something he would say to another human being, especially a man. Jesus, there’s nothing wrong with saying that to another human being you care about. He’s the one making it gay. He was extra when answering that one.
They spent one and half hours making that scene just to end up not saying anything and it ended up looking gay anyway. Anyway, that’s interesting.
 Jensen angles his body towards Mish and says in a very low soft and sexy voice “I guess I really hoped that you would come back some day” I would venture to say that Jensen at the moment in the panel was actually saying them to Misha. Who knows though?
They talk about it a whole lot for something that bothered him that much. 
Misha being so excited about recreating a scene when a fan told Jarpad he’s amazing and Jarpad said "you are welcome. 
 “I think I understand what she wants. I’m not sure what she’s gonna get.” This is a very good line Misha. I will be using it often.
The way they awkwardly stand too close and whisper to each other. Umm…what is going on here?
Jensen folds over laughing because of something Misha says. They are back. The tension is almost 90% gone now and they are in their element.
The chaos of recording the alarm ringtone for the fan was just great to watch. They kept getting closer and closer and I think they might have shared spit at that point. Gross….LOL
The way Misha is sitting is he you know.
Jensen asking Misha whether he was saying anything or just screaming while they were recording. I think he just wanted to see Misha smile.
Jensen’s joy when a fan mentions that they have Misha’s résumé.
Jensen saying the word shit made my day. I curse a  lot and it made me feel validated somehow.
Misha calls him dickhead in return and Jensen stops functioning and laughs instead . He also gets all hot and bothered trying to fumble with the lapel of his shirt.  He does this a lot when he is turned on. He has a humiliation kink I think.
They start talking over each other about Misha’s special skills. Looks like Jensen might have known beforehand because he went straight for that. Or maybe he didn’t know but he knew since Misha is a mad genius there must be some amazing things in there. Either way, it was a good moment.
OMG Jensen is so excited and the way he motions to Misha to bring that résumé to him, LOL. This man was thirsty AF.
He even goes down from the stage to meet Misha and invades his personal space trying to reach the résumé. I think this is the moment the tension between them dissipated completely and they were back to some form of normalcy.
Misha holding Jensen’s shoulder trying to get his résumé back. Unsucessfully, I should add.
They read something funny and they fold over laughing and spin around like overjoyed seals. It is far removed from the mollusk family but at least it’s still a sea creature (I don’t know what I’m saying please don’t mind me)
Jensen is still on his knees laughing and can’t get up. As I said, he is being too extra in this panel.
 Misha is trying to talk but they both can’t stop laughing. I think Jensen laughed so hard he got an extra set of abs that day.
Jensen is still laughing and you know what he is laughing at? Misha’s special skills being acting on camera. I mean it’s funny but man, prayforjensen.
 They are still laughing. Jack, help them.
The way Jensen looks at Misha with pure adoration here makes me so happy and reminds me of the fictional characters they played being all heart eyes for each other.
 Misha laughed so hard he cried.
Jensen trying to read the next ‘special skill’ Misha has but he can’t even talk because of how funny he thinks it is. He’s trying so hard not to laugh but he can’t help himself.
Jensen agreeing and also asking the audience to agree that Misha has a knack for certain accents. Accent kink anyone?
 Jensen is so excited when Misha starts Tibetan throating singing and does the unicorn laugh facing away from the crowd. Bet he has experienced Misha’s Tibetan throat singing skills on a personal when they are (loud overhead helicopter noises followed by thunder rumbling)
Jensen falling to the ground after feigning a heart attack once he saw that Misha is a certified EMT. I mentioned before that I honestly, 100% think he wanted mouth to mouth. There’s no other explanation. He could’ve feigned a nose bleed or just about any other illness but he chose to fall on a dirty floor and lay down so Misha could either give him the breath of life or straddle him. Luckily for him his dream came true 7 years later at Jib9 when straddle gate happened. But I digress
Too bad Misha was still mad at him and heartbroken so he kicked him instead.
Jensen knowing that Misha kayaks seems to be part of his personal knowledge. Maybe they did it together sometimes.
Horseback riding. Hmm is it just me or do they seem awkward here?
 Misha is so close to Jensen’s armpits. Must be missing his man’s musk and being held in those muscular arms again. Poor baby.
Misha can’t talk because of how funny he finds bicycle touring. I mean…I don’t see what’s funny but I guess he knows why it’s funny.
Misha laughing and raises his legs because Jensen is elaborating on the bicycle touring. Maybe it’s an inside joke or maybe it’s no longer funny to me because I’ve watched this panel like 5 times.
 I think Jensen’s goal was to see Misha laugh and be happy because he turned to look at Misha who was still laughing hard and the joy on Jensen’s face. Aww.
Misha gravitating towards his man again. He must smell really nice Misha. And those arms. Bet he used to lift you against the wall and (this fucking thunder won’t stop rambling. Are chuck and Amara fighting again?)
Jensen marketing his man’s carpentry skills but then makes sure to make it ‘no homo’ by saying he would never sit on anything Misha has built. Sure Jan. Then he circles back and says that he knows that he can build things.
Misha walks away from him and he looks up to make sure where he is going. Maybe he was afraid Misha was walking out on him. (PTSD from their breakup?)
They mention acting on camera again.
And laugh 
Jensen keeps talking about the acting on camera and watches to see if Misha is still laughing  He still is and Jensen is happy that his baby is happy. He looks at him again and he is still happy that Misha is still happy. Then once the laughter dies down he starts talking about bicycle touring  and checks again to see if Misha is laughing which he is so Jensen throws his head back  unicorn laughing and then looks at Misha again to see that he’s still laughing. Then they look at each other and say something maybe it’s about that was a good laugh. Jensen is wiping tears from his eyes because of how hard he laughed  Misha does the same. That entire thing was insane and they seemed to love it.
 Jensen starts saying that being this happy or goofing around is how they are on set sometimes and have to take a 5-10 minute break and Misha doesn’t seem too happy at the mention of the set. 
Jensen knowing that you can buy résumés on eBay. Did he buy Misha’s and then plant someone in the audience to bring it up or? Okay, yeah I know I’m reaching here but it’s probable.
 I guess my theory wasn’t farfetched because Jensen says that he’s pretty sure that Jarpad put it on eBay the previous night so maybe he is the one who did all that to win Misha back?
Jensen knows the appellation clogging is a stretch. Seems like Misha has told him about it before.
Jensen looking at his watch to see if they have time for  Misha to be telling a story about his high school sweetheart and now wife. I bet he wishes Misha could tell their love story so openly. He can’t stop looking at Misha.
The way Jensen is looking at Misha here. WTF man? He’s literally confused about what the question is.
The personal space question. This whole thing was just so many things. It was awkward, cringey, thirsty, funny.
when the fan asks whether there’s a funny fact between Jensen and Misha. I almost fainted. What? And Jensen repeats it. The two men are so stoic. They are not even looking at each other. They are looking at the fan like the way a statue stares at you, unmoving. Cringe.
The room is so quiet. Poor girl, I hope she didn’t feel awkward afterwards because if it were me, I would’ve cried from how stoic they looked and how quiet everyone was.
How they both scratch themselves, Misha on the head and Jensen on the nose. Maybe the question hit too close to home
Jensen turns to look at Misha as if to say ’help me out here man. We don’t wanna disappoint our fans.”
Misha gets it because he gets up. This whole thing is gold.
The way Jensen breathes out in anticipation. I know it was like they were playing a skit about personal space but why was he breathing like that? Shouldn’t he have been playing it as ‘uncomfortable’ not ‘turned on.’ Boudoir mannerisms.
Moving on Misha is unsure on where to touch Jensen 40.31. This is weird in and of itself because usually, they don’t have a problem touching each other’s faces, tush, eggplants, (jib4 anyone), backs et cetera. But now it’s weird? *cough* breakup *cough*
Misha touches Jensen’s ear and Jensen literally moans. He frigging moans people. In case it is not clear in the video, here is an isolated audio version of it. Jensen is also fumbling with his shirt like he’s all hot and bothered. Just like Misha did earlier. Was Jib3 their couple’s therapy that reminded them how happy and horny they made each other?
Jensen is really not answering the question, to be honest. He’s fumbling for words and trying so very hard to make sense but his word are  incoherent.
Misha going in for the nose dip. I know friends do this all the time but you have to be very close and familiar with someone such as a friend friend or a sibling for you to poke a finger in their nose. I mean noses are slimy and eww…anyway. That happened. They seem so comfortable with it. Jensen I love you but please stop talking.
The way Jensen looks at Misha. He has the cutest smile on his face as if saying thank you for making that fun and making me horny, I still want you.
Misha wiping his pinky that touched Jensen’s nose on his pants. (I wanted to add something disgusting about what heshould’ve done with that pinky but I won’t so let’s move on)
Jensen wiggling his nose.
When Misha suggests that Spn moves to Nickolodeon. Jensen laughs a bit too hard.
Misha talking about spn being a puppet show reminds me of how he mentioned them having a puppet show in Jensen’s backyard after the show is over.
Jensen also saying that in a way spn is a puppet show. I mean is someone making snide comments about how their strings get pulled and sometimes they are not happy about it. Like how they fired his boyfriend. It seems like it’s an inside joke.
They named the plushie Zippy aww :))
For jack’s sake guys, the way they look at each other when they mention that the  résumé was the highlight of the panel.
Jensen saying the more dirt you dig up on Misha, the more rewarded you are. Aww, someone’s trying to win his man back by any means necessary. You go girl…I mean Jensen.
He talks more about how he’s looking forward to next year when fans have more dirt on his friend Misha. Jensen didn’t want to leave the stage, he was lingering so he could spend more time with Misha.
It’s over guys.
Closing Ceremony
I know you didn’t ask for the closing ceremony but here you go. It’s a free gift.
Can I just mention how Jarpad is an overactive puppy? He has to play with anything and everything he finds.
The mc announces Misha twice for some reason. The second time Jensen looks in Misha’s direction with a small smile on his face. He [Jensen] is also chewing vigorously.
Jensen and Jarpad being typical dude bros and karate chop Rich. This is why the difference between his relationship with Jarpad and Misha stands out. He would be too busy making heart eyes to Misha to kick another guy. LoL.
Jensen hulking out when Jarpad is taking a video of everyone. Lol. This video keeps reiterating my point that his relationship with the two men is just different.
Jensen keeps looking in Misha’s direction, Misha who is busy talking to Steve and having fun. Let me also mention Steve is Jensen’s bestie and so are Jarpad and Misha, but I’m sure that Jensen felt some type of way, jealous when they were having so much fun with his man and he couldn’t. Jarpad also takes a while filming Misha for Jensen of course. They remind me of me having a crush back when I was in school. Wait, did Misha look at Jensen? It’s hard to see because the angle of the video is not expansive but I guess he was.
As soon as Jarpad gets back, Jensen takes the camera from him and starts filming fans. I’m sure he just wanted Misha to look at him
Rich mention’s Misha and something about acting on camera and Jensen licks his lips looking at Misha (I think).
Jensen then vigorously grabs the microphone from someone immediately and mention’s Misha. Jarpad’s reaction at that moment tells you everything you need to know about what’s going on between Jensen and Misha. It looks like he is pleading with Jensen in his head saying, “Don’t embarrass yourself bro. Please don’t” but it’s too late.
Jensen again talks about Misha’s résumé and specifically about acting on camera, the thing that made Misha laugh out loud during their panel. Someone’s smitten. Defending his ex-man.
Jarpad goes to whisper something to Misha. And they laugh while Jensen is thanking the jib staff for doing an amazing job. But when he sees the duo laughing, he loses track of thought and says “and they are all getting married”  dude what ??? How do you go from thanking people who worked on the convention and in .1 seconds you are talking about they are all getting married? Who is? Are you okay? Do you need to sit down? No one gets it, he says he’s kidding and gives Jarpad the microphone, spares a glance at Misha and he seems distraught from that moment on. I wish I could see Misha’s face through all this.
He’s glancing in Misha’s direction again. Man’s got it bad. What?! Oh to be loved by Jensen Ackles. Misha must be a prize, I know he is a mad genius and gorgeous and sexy as hell with that golden skin that looks like it was dipped in gold and honey, big blue eyes that are bluer than the bluest blue, but Jensen wtf man? You are in public.
 I think Jarpad is telling Jensen something maybe it has to do with what he and Misha were talking about earlier?
And it’s over people.
Overall, I agree with the breakup theory. I mean the way these two were acting around each other was very strange. If you watch Misha and Jarpad, they seem okay from the opening ceremony up till the end but Jensen and Misha are just being weird.
The panel was mostly fun but their body language told a story that something was definitely going on between them. 
@littlewolf2703
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daetaechanster · 4 years ago
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Deku, Bakugo and Kirishima
Okay I wanna preface this post by saying first, this isn’t a post about Bakudeku (you’re itching to call me out, I feel it, but don’t do it) and while I will be mentioning the Kiribaku ship, it will be me mostly mentioning the FANS of this ship and the ideals around that ship. If this doesn’t apply to you, please gloss over it. This post was caused by once again, seeing SOME Kiribaku’s speak absolute garbage all over Tiktok. Wrong garbage mind you. Now let me start..
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When was it, that fans suddenly decided that for Kiribaku to be a ship, that suddenly people had to downplay Deku’s importance in Bakugo’s life. Yes, Bakugo use to bully Deku and he was wrong for it, he was a little fucking shithead for it. But that was in chapter one of the manga and season 1 episode 1 of the show. Where are we now? About to hit chapter 305 (leaks today whoo) and we’re about hit season 5. Things of changed, Bakugo has changed, and if you can pick up what Horikoshi is putting down, then you KNOW things have changed in their relationship.
Now what these Tiktoker Kiribaku’s like to claim is that Bakugo doesn’t care about Deku, doesn’t even LIKE Deku. That the only person Bakugo cares about is Kirishima... you can headcanon all you like that Kirishima is Bakugo’s most important person. You can 100% believe that and use it for your fanon content. But that is all it is, headcanon and fanon, because it isn’t true. And BECAUSE it isn’t true and is fanon, Do not come at people who believe CANON FACT and tell them they’re wrong and your headcanon is right.
Why does Bakugo’s relationship with Deku have to be diminished for Kiribaku’s ship to flourish? Why? When did that become a thing? because a LOT of people spread around this garbage like it’s fact.
Now i’m going to get into the major point these Tiktoker Kiribaku’s made, and what I think is the worst take i’ve ever heard. Ahem.
‘Kirishima cared about Bakugo the most which is why he went to Kamino to save him, and Bakugo cared about Kirishima the most which is why he took his hand’
I’m going to get into how WRONG this statement is. 
The person who found out that Bakugo was going to be kidnapped was Deku. Deku found out during his fight with Muscular and after the fight was over, his first thought was to get Kota to safety so he could save Kacchan. He told the pussycat lady to alert everyone to Kacchan’s possible kidnapping, which is where Kirishima heard about it.
As you’d expect, Kirishima got upset and instantly wanted to go out and help protect Bakugo. Why? because he is his FRIEND. Canonly they’re not together so we are going forward with their platonic relationship, which is canon. He wanted to save his friends, as did others in the group, but he wanted to save him most. But he couldn’t. (Something we later learned was a trigger for Kirishima in season 4)
Because Deku was out on the field, he was able to go and try to save Bakugo. That boy ran around, in absolute pain to the point that some of the class commented on the fact he should be unconcious right now. But that didn’t matter because he wanted to save Bakugo. And he tried his hardest, despite being in pain and his arms not working, Bakugo gets taken, telling Deku ‘Not to come’. I like to believe he said that because Deku was injured and WOULD be killed following him, because Bakugo knows Deku would follow him into fire. Like Deku knows Bakugo best, Bakugo also knows Deku best (minus the whole looking down on him stuff, wtf Bakugo.) But because that was never established, we’ll leave that up to interpretation.
Something these Tiktokers used in their arguement was that Kirishima was the one who decided to save Bakugo, nobody else. Which.. just isn’t true at all. Another thing they said was DEKU DIDN’T PLAN TO SAVE HIM. Again, not true.
Lets go back to before Deku was in hospital and Bakugo was kidnapped. When Bakugo was gone, Deku SCREAMED in absolute DISPAIR (these tiktokers also commented that Deku hates Bakugo and all I can do is LOL, won’t even entertain that.) Deku was in such ABSOLUTE DISPAIR that he instantly went into shock. Shock, that he said, lasted for the 2 whole days in hospital, he couldn’t remember a thing. The only moment he remembers WHY he was in shock, was when the whole class were there and Todoroki told him about it.
Also at this point, while Deku is in shock, Kirishima and Todoroki had 2 whole days with a clear head to decide they were going to save Bakugo, consequences be damned.
What happened after remembering Kacchan was taken? Deku came out of his shock and burst into tears. He failed to save Kacchan and it HURT him. And then Kirishima mentions the rescue.. the rescue that he AND TODOROKI PLANNED. Do people not remember that while Kirishima had decided he was going to save Bakugo, that Todoroki ALSO had the same plan?? That if Kirishima hadn’t intended to save him, Todoroki would have mentioned the plan to Deku himself???
I 100% believe, as should ANYONE who knows Deku as a character and as someone who’s always cared about Bakugo despite him being an asshat, would have also come up with a plan to save Bakugo if he hadn’t been in hospital with damaged arms and in complete shock and disassociation.
I now want to point out a panel that people seem to forget:
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For people to believe Deku doesn’t care as much as Kirishima does about Bakugo, how is it your boy is saying the complete OPPOSITE statement???
Now skip forward to finding Bakugo and AFO. While Kirishima (and Todoroki) had decided they were going to rescue Bakugo, it was Deku who came up with the plan to get Bakugo out of there. Deku planned the best possible way to get Bakugo out of there and not damage his pride in the meantime. Deku could have been selfish and have reached out for Bakugo, because we all know Deku wanted to have been the one to reach out his hand. But he didn’t because Deku knows Bakugo best and didn’t want to possibly upset him.
Bakugo, who feels incredibly insecure when it comes to Deku, how do you think he’d have reacted if Deku saved him A SECOND TIME? First the sludge villian and now Kamino? I’d wager that Deku would expect any chance of reconsilliation between himself and Bakugo to have died that moment if he’d reached out to save him.
Lets be honest, Bakugo would have taken ANYONES hand to get out of there and i’ll explain why that is true in a moment.
Another thing people seem to forget is that Bakugo didn’t tell Kirishima he was the one who should hold his hand out. Bakugo didn’t tell Kirishima that he would only take his hand. No, DEKU said this. Deku who knows Bakugo better than ANYONE. He knew, because currently his and Bakugo’s relationship was rocky, that he couldn’t risk Bakugo’s pride getting in the way of the rescue. So DEKU chose Kirishima to reach out his hand, because Kirishima isn’t someone Bakugo feels threatened by. Deku is Bakugo’s biggest insecurity, him reaching out was a risk Deku wasn’t going to place over saving Bakugo. 
Again, Bakugo didn’t mention ANY of this, he didn’t even know. So how anyone came to the conclusion that canonly, this meant that Bakugo believed Kirishima to be more important than anyone else I will never know.
And when they did save him, Horikoshi put in a VERY BIG CLUE that a lot of people gloss over.
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That teeth grit there was put INTENTIONALLY to show that even with Kirishima’s hand out.. he still didn’t want to take it, he didn’t want to have been saved. This is why I believe that he would have taken ANYONE’S hand. For anime fans, this teeth grit was cut out to instead focus on how close Shigaraki got to grabbing Bakugo. 
Bakugo isn’t stupid, he knew he couldn’t stay. For one, he already mentioned that he was in All Mights way by being there. So he HAD NO CHOICE but to take Kirishima’s hand. And when he was saved, he addressed EVERYONE for saving him, not just Kirishima.
Now, for non manga readers, you will have to wait until season 5 to see Bakugo and Deku’s relationship flourish and I don’t want to spoil you. I’m so excited for people to see what their relationship is going to turn into and why it’s one of the most popular canon relationships in the show (and how it’s grown to be one of the biggest ships)
I will give you this though, to indicate just how much Deku means to Bakugo now without spoiling it for anyone. Anyone whos read the manga should know how Bakugo feels about Deku.
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For anyone who feels that Bakugo taking Kirishima’s hand indicated how important they were to each other, i’d like to hope you have the same energy for that cover for Vol.29 of the manga drawn by Horikoshi himself. If Bakugo went back, he would have taken Deku’s hand all along. At the river, in Kamino, during the fight. Bakugo wants to hold Deku’s hand now, he wants Deku’s friendship, he wants Deku, and that is platonically canon.
The last thing I want to say is that Kiribaku as a ship can still exist without ignoring how much Bakugo and Deku mean to each other. Kirishima and Bakugo are friends, maybe even best friends canonly (though honestly i’d argue that Kaminari is closer to Bakugo but that’s my personal opinion.)
Deku’s best friends are Iida and Uraraka, but Bakugo is still the person he loves and cares about the most.
Bakugo’s best friends are Kirishima and Kaminari, but Deku is still the person he loves and cares about the most.
Do you see people push Bakugo down to make IzuOcha work? no.
Wanna headcanon that Kirishima is Bakugo’s most important person? Go right ahead. But don’t push it on others as fact when it’s not.
If you have to come to other peoples spaces and force your headcanon on them and disminish the utterly beautiful relationship thats blossoming between Bakugo and Deku, then maybe you shouldn’t be in the fandom. Horikoshi wants you to know how important these boys are to each other and if you can’t see that, don’t comment publically because you sound dumb.
Ship Kiribaku, but do not attack others for things that you have WRONG.
Tldr; Stop erasing Bakugo and Deku’s canon relationship to big up your Kiribaku ship and don’t force that on other people.
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rottingsparrow · 3 years ago
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Oh boy oh boy here it is my thoughts on Lore Olympus episodes 1-10 I didn't include any pictures because I'm figuring out how I wanna do this also im tired but here it is:
Episode One: Stag, You’re It
Why the title
Minthes hair like connects to her head without a line not bad just a comment
Hades’ sharp ass nose but I enjoy the colors, not super bright yknow
Hera looks so cool but also like snatched almost unnaturally
She is a god tho so
Zeus lets goooo such a solid color imo
Im sorry but artemis’ hair is a lil ugly
Love that all the main characters are snatched /s
Episode Two: Who is She?
And Persophone is now 3 shades lighter ok
Also like i hate the dress Artemis gives persephone it ugly
Persophones hair changed lengths like 2 times but maybe im seeing it wrong
Also artemis if she doesnt wanna be here leave wtf
How is. How is hades holding his drink
Zeus changed colors king
I understand lighting and shading but like. Damn
Ok so if Poseidon hates Odysseus does that mean the events of the Odyssey already happened
Ep 3: Who is She pt 2
LMAO what is hades’ nose
Why did she have random parts w/ no color not a complaint just curious
HER FOREHEAD SO LARGE IN THIS ONE PANEL
“Short sighted” Do we ever see him wear glasses again
Zeus’ lil. Hair thingies keep disappearing
“Honestly i think she puts Aphrodite to shame” wow comparing women/hj
Seriously tho like. why
Ep 4: Who is she pt 3
Idk why she does random scenes where the characters are all like just one color. Not bad per say but weird
Gives artemis huge boobs and in one panel they are either smaller or gone
Artemis bestie if that one thing distracts you from your friend you gotta get ur priorities straight
“Hey kiddo wanna have some real fun” ew
Omg purple eros
So much hair
Did she just give her hair powers so she could draw diff styles lets be honest
Ep 5:
Aphrodites hip angle is so sharp it could kill me
“Friggin” makes my mind go to supernatural and i dont appreciate it
Omg shes a cinnamon roll shes so adorable and gorgeous and yet sexy and *i get shot*
Mother emotionally guilting her son omg its my life
The listen panel. Haunts my dreams
Why does she have so many different painting/coloring styles
LMAO LOOK AT HADES ON THE BALCONY its. Its bad
Ep 6
W hy do they stand like that persephone pls
Love demeters colors tho
This is. This is the metaphor for the maidenhood thing right
Thats how i always saw it
Wow persephone you just woke up and you look so pretty wowww woww
Rachel rachel please does her hair have bangs or not just choose
I do actually like the panel with cerberus, persephone, and hades its nice
Ep 7
Cerberus is so cute
Hades shut the fuck up
The coat is cute
Persephone get off the counter this isnt ur house
Whos minthe? Stop being nosy damn
Didnt really have much to say bout this one
Ep 8
Why are both their eyes open i know they arent in love but that so weird right
Is his dick out or is she just naked on him
“Salutiations” old man
Every second i read persephones eyes get bigger
“I would pay you a salary to barge in on every single aspect of my life” is actually cute however. You literally just met her she hasnt even introduced herself
I dont understand why he thought she meant sex idk
I like that his business card has diff names for him
SHE WAS HOLDING HERS IN HER TITTY WHY
Ep 9
Persephone giggling over that is kinda weird imo but whatever
Persephone please pic a face shape
“Come here puppy” look. Look at her face. Wtf
Train ur dogs hades smh
We never see like any of these dogs fuck you rachel i want dogs
“Let the unionize see if i care” haha so funny haha wow so. So funny. Hades ur such a character
Why is her mouth so high up in this one panel
Hehe puppy
Man in bushes
Ep 10
Why does he have so many cars he doesnt need em
The little :p panel is cute
NOT HER FACE AGAIN RACHEL PLEASE JUST LOOK ONCE MORE
Stop yelling hades
Persephones hair is looking bad rn ngl
I love the colors of the underworld tbh
Rachel please go in depth on how you travel there between realms i am so curious
Artemis randomly gains bangs
I know her hair was flowing but her bangs are too short to completely disappear
Why do his eyes randomly turn red honestly
Goodbye thank god
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ripplestitchskein · 3 years ago
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Bakugou’s behavior right before he dies is still so fucking suspicious and weird??
Right after AFO grabs him is when Bakugou gets the weird light in his eyes. Like his iris goes white, and at first I was “oh, like he’s just upset that he said that about being Izuku’s shadow”.
But then he completely ignores Jeanist when he’s trying to sew up his arm up and says “..Right” like he’s answering someone else. He seemed distracted, not defeated.
And he repeats that, “Right” in the next issue before he tells Jeanist to take care of everyone, not like he’s psyching himself up but like he’s coming to terms with something or replying to something, but like it also clearly states that he didn’t know his cluster attack was going to do that to his body, soooo wtf is that about? It seems very out of character. That’s what’s sat wrong with me this whole fucking time. Why would he say that if he didn’t know this was gonna happen?
It just seemed like he’s talking to someone, and it’s right after AFO grabs him and we’ve already established that All Might couldn’t communicate with the vestiges either until he was touching Midoriya in the hospital. And then we have this panel of 2nd user right after that when AFO starts talking about how angry he is.
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And also he’s like talking to the All Might vestige and again he starts off with “Oh right,” like he’s mid conversation and continues to tell him about the card.
A few issues back the vestiges were talking to each other and plotting to do something to help Midoriya and I was like “that’s odd, how are you gonna do something to help him externally, you are literally in his head”.
It’s all fucking strange. Like if Bakugou was truly going to go out with a weird side effect of his quirk (which, fucking lame way to go imo, like wtf) it should have been during a moment of like regular Bakugou high intensity and then he like falls down, not having a peaceful moment where he calmly walks back into battle and fires off explosions without a peep, like he knew what was gonna happen even though the text tells us very explicitly he didn’t?
I just don’t get it. And it seems hella suspect. There’s shenanigans afoot.
I mean maybe I’m wrong and just being a deluded stan or whatever, but it just doesn’t add for me and it never has. It’s incongruent with the story so far, it’s a very meaningless death for a very important character especially considering how impactful he’s been throughout, and it’s a death that in no way suits the character themself. It’s like if he died right before battle from like, tetanus or something. It’s hardly better than an offscreen death of a major character. He didn’t save anyone. He didn’t change anything. He didn’t have an ironic death or a particularly emotional one. Like it’s emotional for us because we’re attached to him and he’s fucking dead but if another character we weren’t as attached to died in that exact same way where a little box of text had to explain why they died we’d be like “well that was anticlimactic, wtf why were we shown this?”
Even after reading the entire text straight through from beginning to end I think it’s even fucking more suspect now than I did when I just had the one issue and the synopsis. If the point of the death is that sometimes deaths are pointless and meaningless in a war or whatever or like pushing yourself too hard can lead right this than as a writer I have to question why would you put in that much time and effort developing a character like BK when you could use literally anyone else and get the same messaging across.
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gilly-bj · 4 years ago
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Why the “Eremika kiss” doesn’t affect Rivamika at all
In the new chapter, we saw for the first time something that we didn’t expect to happen in the manga: a kiss, between Mikasa and (dead)Eren, probably not like we all imagined. This kiss hit everyone hard, also the Eremika shippers, who weren’t very happy with the fact that Eren was already dead when Mikasa kissed him. Eremikas unfortunately weren’t the only ones sad, also lots of Rivamikas had this feeling and, I was one of them.
When the chapter came out and I saw Mikasa kissing Eren, I literally crashed (windows.exe stopped working); my whole body stopped working and the only sensible thought I could elaborate was: “Wait, WTF!”. After I scraped together that quantity of calm that could make me, at least, sit down, I started to write posts that I’ve already eliminated, so don’t look for them because I made them disappear, because my opinions changed radically.
Quick note for you guys from your G: in these cases, don’t write immediately what you’re thinking in that exact moment. I was incredibly frustrated, so the posts I wrote were full of complaints. I didn’t analyzed the kiss from other prospectives, because for me it was only the “eremika kiss”. Remember to wait at least the traduction of the chapter, official or not; you’ll have enough time to reflect on it and elaborate opinions lucidly.
Anyway, in this post I’ll talk about three things:
Eremika’s conversation and Mikasa’s dream
The kiss and why it doesn’t affect Rivamika
Final considerations about RM
The subheadings are written in their own special colour, so if you’re not interested in one of them, it will be easier to find the other.
Let’s start!
• Eremika’s conversation and Mikasa’s dream.
Mikasa has an headache and she wake up in her ideal world, where she lives with Eren in a isolated cabin in the woods. This chapter is from Mikasa’s pov, and note that her perfect image of home is again showed, probably for the last time. I think that Mikasa’s feelings for Eren were kinda obvious, apart from the fact that I never liked or supported them, they are here and we can’t do anything against them.
But I’ve never imagined to see that kind of selfish dream from Mikasa; she is the girl who always cares for everyone, the one who is ready to sacrifice herself for the well-being of her friends, the one who loves them and support them independently from the situation. To be honest, it hurts to see that in her dream, Armin isn’t with them; if there wasn’t Levi, my shipper heart would have hurt but I’d understand, they aren’t so close yet, but Armin, they’ve grown together.
But I’m not mad at Mikasa, each of us has a selfish dream deep inside, where we’d rather sacrifice others to save our special person; it doesn’t mean that we don’t love them, it’s just, if we’d have to choose, we’d prefer to keep safe only him or her. Let me explain better my point with an example: imagine a man who lives in a country at war; he has the possibility to save just two people and he has to choose between his wife and daughter or his parents. He would probably save his wife and daughter, but it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t love his parents. Choosing between the people we love is the most painful thing in the world, but sometimes we just have to do it, and in Mikasa’s case, she’d choose Eren.
Anyway, before talking about the conversation, I want to analyze a little detail: during her all dream, Mikasa and Eren are in their teen form, why? Well, my interpretation is that Mikasa is still in love with the old Eren and she can’t understand the new one, indeed, one she said: “I’ll bring the old Eren back”. Even if she doesn’t completely understand him, she still loves him, and that’s why I adore Mikasa.
Anyway, let’s analyze better their conversation:
Eren wakes Mika up and he states their situation in that moment, how they ran away leaving the others to their cruel destiny. Now, do we all agree how that doesn’t fit Eren’s character, at all. His most famous line is “Fight if you want to win”, which it shows how brave he is; if he’d run away with Mikasa, he would act like a coward, and he can’t accept cowardice.
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And here, Mikasa’s biggest regret: the answer she gave to Eren; remeber when she said: “If only I gave him another answer”, and in her dream she probably did: thanks to Eren’s words, we can assume that Mikasa told him to run away with her, to leave everything, probably what she wanted to answer in the reality. I interpreted that scene from chapter 123 like a Mikasa who couldn’t answer because taken by surprise, and then came up with a thing she didn’t mean who is still harassing her.
Let’s say that the Eren in the previous panels was Mikasa’s idealized version, but then something changes. Look at Eren’s face:
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The marks. And why did they appear casually? Because, this is the true Eren, the one they are going to kill, the one who wanted to give his probably last message to Mikasa, and in fact the most important part of the conversation: “Please...Mikasa, forget about me”. At this point, I really don’t understand what the Eremika shippers found romantic in this chapter, the fact that the last thing Eren said to Mikasa is “forget about me” made things clear enough. We can notice that Eren entered her dream by the falcon here, funny that Mikasa is actually flying on Falco right now.
I really started to appreciate Mikasa and Eren’s relationship thanks to this chapter; even if I wasn’t, and I am not, a big fan of the Eremika ship, thinking about their relationship made me a bit sad. Anyway, I love the fact that Eren wanted to tell this to Mikasa, I think he deeply want her to live a life without him, because he’s already understood that they have different life goals, different way of thinking, different natures.
Before skipping to the next point, I noticed that many Rivamika shippers’ve already talked about the similarity between Eren and Levi in some of the panels, I’m not going to dwell because I‘ll write a different post about it, but I wanted to say that it can’t be just a coincidence, Levi and Eren’s haircuts are very different and there’s no way to confuse them. I don’t know why Isayama did this; maybe it’s a foreshadowing, or maybe he just wanted to trol us (it’s always him), I’ll just wait patiently April to see if my assumptions are right 😌
• The kiss and why it doesn’t affect Rivamika at all
Ah this kiss, this damn kiss. Uff, let me sit down and let’s talk about it.
So, Mikasa decides to kill Eren and she enters his mouth thanks to Levi’s help. The first thing she sees is Eren’s head, and I think we should already stop and analyze better this moment.
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Look at his expression: he seems kinda... happy and, maybe also proud. Why? Because Mikasa finally decided to do the right thing, she chose Humanity, she sacrificed him, the person she loves the most, for the others. That’s her development. Even if she’ll never forget him, she chose to be selfless over selfish, and I’m glad she decided to remember Eren; it’s awful to forget to ones we loved in the past, we shouldn’t forget them, after all, they made us feel beautiful things, thanks to them we gained fantastic memories, why should we completely remove them from our life? Feelings can change, they will change, and Mikasa will change her romantic feelings towards Eren, it’s simply natural, but asking her to forget him is cruel; Levi won’t forget his dead friends, Armin won’t forget his grandfather, Eren won’t forget his mum, and it’s beautiful this way.
Now, let’s get into the spicy of this post: the kiss. Let me the transform in a love specialist (I’m nobody XD). I really don’t see anything romantic in it. Really, is probably the most tragic and sad among Eremika’s interactions because it shows how Mikasa’s feelings have never been reciprocated; she already tried to kiss him, in season 2, and he “rejected” her (that wasn’t a explicit reject but, if I’m not wrong, he didn’t try the Coordinate before so he didn’t know if it worked, he preferred to risk his life instead of kissing her. Actually, that’s also Eren’s personality), and now, yeah she managed to kiss him, but he was dead, he couldn’t kiss her back, couldn’t say anything, couldn’t reject her. I think that at this point, Mikasa already knew Eren wasn’t in love with her, she isn’t stupid, and she saw that kiss as a way to set herself free completely, to close a chapter of her life.
Another thing: I really don’t understand how can EM shippers say that Eremika is canon just because they kissed, sorry, Mikasa kissed him?? A simple kiss doesn’t make a couple canon, you have to analyze the feelings behind it. Why many of them can’t simply analyze a bit the story? Just, a bit...
• Final considerations and Rivamika
When I saw many Rivamika shippers being so happy about this chapter I really couldn’t understand, like “why are they happy if Mikasa literally kissed Eren?”. Well, at first I was very confused, the posts I read made me feel relieved, but... I wasn’t 100% convinced yet, because I was listening only to what the others said, I didn’t have my own opinion. I could see only the kiss (as a negative thing), and not all the foreshadowings we got in this chapter.
I have a certain theory but I will write a separated post about it, here, let’s discuss why that kiss isn’t a problem for us RM shippers. So, my biggest fear was that Mikasa’d live her all life mourning Eren and wouldn’t open herself to someone new, not necessarily Levi lying. Anyway, like I said before, please don’t stress yourself with rushed considerations, it’s just useless. I think that the kiss acted like as a springboard for Rivamika; like I said before, I interpreted it as a way to set herself free completely, to not have regrets because obviously, it was a thing that Mika wanted to do. Levi’s extreme care for her in this chapter, his determination when he saw that she ready to do this such painful thing made me... fly. They fought together until the end showing for the last time their chemistry and fantastic dynamic. Their interactions in this chapter were really special and I hope that there’ll be more in the future, maybe not only as a team;)
In conclusion, I loved this chapter so much, I can consider it as my favorite because, it gave me chills, for real.
I’ll start to work on my theory so yeah, this post isn’t ended yet lol. Stay tuned because there, I’ll talk only about RM so it will be... maybe more interesting from a shipper’s view. Tell me what you think about this in the comments 💜!
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eatsbop · 3 years ago
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Tulio anger management post
It's like what Annie Wilkes said, he didn't get out of the cock-a-doodie car.
Peetee let me down and if anything, it's because he's lazy.
Maybe I'm not qualified to nitpick like wtf I ain't shit but you know, it just pisses me off like I've been holding this in, bro. I tried my best. I'm here for the hell of it but it's been pissing me off so bad for so long.
Anyway, idk where to even start.. but let's just talk about my major beef.
He didn't get out the cock-a-doodie car. In the last chapter rocketman was stuck in a car and it careened down a cliff.. but then next chapter they show us, rocketman is safe. He got out of the car after all.
Annie was right about that one thing, that ain't playing fair.
It's just fucking lazy writing, bro. Like sure, I'm glad my guy is fine. Han Wanguk gets squashed by the hydraulic press one chapter then NO he ACTUALLY didn't, fooled ya. Baek Seongjoon had given up the last of his ghost, NO actually he didn't. He's actually fueled by the power of love. What the fuck, Romeo.
Okay, sure. Let's say we can forgive the whole Wanguk thing. Things happened before Jenny left the cargo container. But can you explain what SJ's little office tantrum was for then? What about his 5 ep flashback? Okay, let's say the whole beating up and almost crippling a bunch of teenagers is his attempt to maintain his cover cause you know, he's still hoping his little jig to infiltrate Taesan's ranks hadn't completely collapsed just yet. What was he being so dramatic in his office for? Did Jenny install security cameras in SJ's control room to monitor him like a lab rat? Doubt it. Then later he showed us a panel of SJ calling his dad-in-law, "ooh don't get mad at yoo hobin uwuwu". What? What what. Make it make sense.
You know the whole bad-guy-actually-sweet-guy worked for Taehoon's case cause meowmeow had a build up. I don't know why Peetee's so keen on recycling ideas that he sold before. The only thing it does is make the entire meal bland and over chewed.
Seo Seongun goes feral. Cool, show-stopping, fresh, spicy.. but every other character going feral during fights too? Don't these mofos have any integrity. I only need one Sammy. That position is already taken. I'm good. Stop copy-pasting him over everyone, it makes Sammy look regular.
I don't understand why Peetee needs to do this except out of laziness. He could write characters like Olly and Jiho. Why would he cut corners when he could do better? I'm happy how he handled Jiho. He didn't turn op like everyone else. He just kept doing his little Jiho deeds as little evil Jiho within his little Jiho bounds.
Uuurghgg.. I'm so pissed.
Anyway. Must you really spell out the situation for Yoo Hobin. It's so fucking literal, it hurts my pride. Oooh he's the good guy, the protagonist. He does good things. He's the hero. Because SJ is actually a good guy and he's working for the common good because love.. wins. No, it didn't. That's fucking bullshit, my guy. Can't you dig more into Hobin's character? Say, what's wrong with falling victim to the consequences of your actions? Can't a dude struggle because he made bad life decisions? Might it not be homeboy burrowed himself too deep into this fucking mess with no way out and now he's trying to wriggle away and survive and.. and.. cause man.. the economy is just this bad. Making a living is so fucking complicated. Making a living while having a conscience is sheer fucking torture. I wish I can sell everyone out but nah, I'm better than that uwu I'm Yoo "The Man" Hobin.
But no it's just, Yoo Hobin is.. good guy. He is.. good guy and he do.. the good things. Because I'm too lazy to explore his character uwu.
(Can you fucking tell I'm sitting bored in a waiting room? Yes, I'm sitting bored in a waiting room. I don't have the energy for any of this but I am full of spite and I'm so fucking bored.)
As for the stuff regarding him being a bigot.. Okay, let me just say.. I never had any real hope or expectation for any form of media, series, title, whatever else in regards to things like representation and all that. I don't, I'm fed up. And Peetee is too fucking fan-servicey to be trusted. Like he gives us a dick shot and call it a day. I'm sick of all the marketing ploys and all the fucking rainbow filter slapped in every fucking logo every pride month.
Anyway, whatever. Didn't Yeonwoo's dad recognize SJ's lady as uh.. some politician's daughter? Like yea, let's all pretend you build that up, Peetee. Good job, man.
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eisforeidolon · 3 years ago
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I think it is an honest attempt to rather go to a con to face the actor you hate and question him directly rather than sitting in own room and bitching day and night. If any anti really goes to the NYCC and asks Jensen 'uncomfortable' questions that can give a little light on the shady prequel, I would appreciate them. But I don't think anyone is that involved with their fandom-hate really that they would spend a hell lot of money just to ask something to a person they don't like. Except those certain rabid Hellers of course who have lost the sense of line between reality and tv.
I think fans should be respectful to the actors, even ones I don't like. However I don't see asking hard questions is being inherently disrespectful, a lot depends on attitude and phrasing. That said? I also think any fan who has convinced themselves they have the magic question to back Jensen into a corner over this is just as deluded as the hellers trying it for years over their ship. If Jensen & Co. are planning to give more concrete details at that con, they will. If they aren't? He'll tap dance around it just like he did to the fan at JibCon who asked for specifics of what'd be in the first season.
Still no idea why they're going with this particular strategy of trying to keep everything a big secret, especially when fans are so up in arms about it. Maybe it's intentional, to keep people riled up and talking about it in a whole 'no bad publicity' way? Maybe it really is just as simple as reading the room wrong. While I've personally just kind of thrown my hands up and stopped paying attention for the most part, I get the frustration and incredulity at this as a concept and as a strategy. But if this is what they've chosen to go with, rando fan #219 can make up all the hard hitting questions they want or misrepresent everything that was said ... and it's going to make all the difference of a fart in the wind.
Going to a con, where in this case it's not a panel for SPN but for TW, as a fan who hates that and Jensen? Is weirder than just bitching online and I don't see anything particularly honest about it. Even if someone is on SM day and night, I presume they're still doing other shit in between posts. I'm on and off here all the time - but I'm also chatting to friends, working, writing, doing other hobbies, etc. Someone going to NYCC just to seethe about how much they hate Jensen and TW is specifically dedicating that time a lot more wholly to that one thing - in addition to the money they're blowing. And yeah, the money is the part that really drives it over the cliff into WTF Even? territory. Again, like the hellers who bid insane amounts on Jensen's first M&G after the show ended because they'd convinced themselves he totes hated the finale and was being ~*sexily silent*~ about it (despite what he was literally saying in interviews) and was going to reveal all to them!? You can make up all the fantasies in your head you want. You can paint as absurd of a narrative of what actually happened and what it ~*really means*~ as vividly as you like. But at the end of the day, you're just stewing in your hatred for hours to ultimately be easily refuted by other more honest attendees who don't have an agenda easily visible from space. So honestly if they were straight up lying about going it would be less weird, but I think it's an artificial line to assume only hellers are that desperate to try and "prove" some kind of point - there's more than enough crazy in this fandom to go around even if certain corners do have a higher concentration of it.
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ourmondobongo · 3 years ago
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Hello there! I recently noticed you're am amazing meta writer. I'm sorry if this has been discussed before but there are still a number of details that I would like to ask you regarding chapter 139 because they still confuse me as hell! So here I go with a list (😅):
1) What's clear is that while Armin was on the ship with Annie Eren visited them through the paths. Eren had Not destroyed 80% of humanity by then, right? Because in earlier pages he says "The rumbling will kill 80% of humanity" so there was still room for saving the remaining people while Armin was basically thanking Eren for the genocide lol
2) Why didn't Armin, Mikasa, etc tried to stop him at that point in the paths? I'm not looking for drama but they Should've put up something more than a simple "Let's leave it all to the result of Mikasa's choice", right?
3) Who did Eren visit in the paths? Mikasa asks Armin if he remembers when Eren came to meet them all (probably in the paths, but we know Ackermans are not affected by the founder's memory erasure ability so why is she acting like she'd forgot it all?
4) Does that mean Levi was affected by the memory erasure too? To me he never sounded like somebody who'd talked to Eren in the paths, but I could be wrong. Do you think he went along with Eren's plan like eveeybody else easily in the paths?
And last but not least I wanna ask about Hanji. She's the person who said she can't accept genocide under any circumstances so do you think Eren even talk to both her and Levi too but made them forget about everything. I asked about Levi again because I'm just so lost with everything we knew about the ackermans up until then and this right here is nerfing my logic 😅 Idk maybe it's because I don't want this to be true and think like Eren never talked to Hanji and Levi in the first place because it makes me kinda bitter if they did actually went along with Eren's plan.
The different panels where everybody's appreciating Eren's deeds for their sake suddenly switches to Levi who's remembering his fallen comrades and thanking them instead. That calms my nerves but then I'm like "how did Levi knew the curse is lifted forever" so he must've remembered sth aka Eren's speech. Ahhh sorry I'm so lost! I would love to read your take on this matter! Thank you in advance! 🌹
Hello!!!!
Oh, thanks for the kind words!! 🥰🥰🥰 
(I seriously do not find myself a great meta writer tho, because most of the time I’m going more emotionally compromised than rational, or I’m trying to defend a fav 😅)
And don't worry if it was discussed before or not - we're always learning more each day 💜 I like ya'll asks because it also makes me revisit stuff, remember things, or find answers I still want myself when other people reply and we discuss even more 😄 
Now, these questions were all great! Let's dig into 07 Google docs pages for some answers and clarifications for them!!
(Imma use TR as short for The Rumbling)
1) What's clear is that while Armin was on the ship with Annie Eren visited them through the paths. Eren had Not destroyed 80% of humanity by then, right? Because in earlier pages he says "The rumbling will kill 80% of humanity" so there was still room for saving the remaining people while Armin was basically thanking Eren for the genocide lol 
So…!!
The 1st part I'll explain better on the next question, but by Armin's talk and expressions at the beginning of chapter 139, The Rumbling was set in stone as destroying 80% of the Earth and there wouldn't be a turn back. Eren was stating it as a fact, not a possibility. This and also the fact the Alliance would be seen as the World's saviors. Their talk wasn't a negotiation opportunity, but only an explanation of what was happening with Eren + Eren making Armin's dream and their childhood promise come true...
Now, Armin's "Thank You" is really a controversial topic indeed. And yeah, I know the hurting + betraying + wtf feeling of reading that line. I'd been there too! However, Armin didn't intend to show gratitude for TR - but somehow for him to be close to the fragments of human Eren, as his best friend. 
They loved each other so much. They both were children of war. Orphans who grew up together, fought Titans and humans together, saw each other die (though they "resurrected" later), and they were ready to offer their lives for each other without batting an eye. They were really a BrOTP. So while Yams' storytelling was rushed and somewhat confusing/lacking to express what he meant properly in chapter 139 mostly, we can't deny the fact that Armin carried deeply in his heart the feeling of love and brotherhood they grew up with during those long 10 years! 
Armin sincerely wasn't meaning to express he liked, supported, condoned, approved of, or was grateful for his BrOTP turning into a mass murderer and destroying billions of lives. Armin in chapter 131 ends talking about a world he could see together with Eren, remember? This implied he hoped to save both, even if we readers knew Eren had no salvation as what Eren did was unforgivable. All that was left for them was that as long as Armin lived, he would have to deal with the consequences of his BFF's madness. 
So seeing Eren was well aware he himself was a monster without forgiveness, Armin was being Eren's friend-brother, trying to say sayonara - the final farewell - to Eren, while assuring him that his terrifying, crazy, incomprehensible act of horror wouldn't be the end of all things. Armin would see a way to make use of the snk tragedy for it doesn't become the end of their world (literally and metaphorically).
Ngl, tho, I was really hating Ere-Min when 139 came out 😆 I hated Eren's half-explained answers, and above all, I hated his emotional break down over Mikasa. And I hated it because shippers were all over the place screaming "Eren loves Mikasa 😍😍😍" as if the mf hasn't just killed 80% of the world, and wanted to actually go full Rumbling and let the planet be full of carrion fattened insects!! And, oh, with everyone else of the Alliance "showing their gratitude" and such deep sympathy for Eren - that just stabbed me right in the heart over and over. I can understand some of the intentions of proximity, relief, and closeness Yams might have wanted to present with these moments, but this does not excuse the lacking/confusing written depiction. 
But feelings are very tricky. As it is Yams storytelling.
Tbh, I decided to re-read snk from the very beginning last year thinking on the ending chapter, all I feel is pain, pity, an urgent need to beat the hell out of Eren, mixed with the exhilarating feelings whenever something thrilling happened with all characters. And these all amplify when I remember the animation. I particularly have etched on my heart Trost Gate's scene - the OST, the VAs, the message, the suffering, the battle, the struggle, the sacrifices, the "I was born into this world" catchphrase, the sunset - and, UGH, I CAN'T HATE EREN lol His life isn't determined by only his downfall. He grew to fly so high before chapter 90!
So I imagine that if I, a "mere bystander audience" feel like this, then a "real" Armin would feel much more. 10 years is no joke in a relationship, no matter the amount of pain and confusion you've had in a span of a couple months. And it's hard to treat the past as nothing, or that you're easily over it!
I'm no one to tell you what you what to do, though, but if you allow me to say something it is this: we've all suffered with snk, but for the sake of some plot coherence and peace of mind, why not try giving a chance to imagine the real dilemma of Ere-Min in that complicated ending? Might make more sense, and hurt a bit less...
2) Why didn't Armin, Mikasa, etc tried to stop him at that point in the paths? I'm not looking for drama but they Should've put up something more than a simple "Let's leave it all to the result of Mikasa's choice", right? 
Armin and Mikasa' particular talks in Paths with Eren weren't  set up by Eren in a time his friends could have stopped him.
With Armin, Eren was merely showing things and explaining the FACTS of past-present-future to him, in 139. And at some point before or after this, we had the view of chapter 131, which Eren purposely showed Armin the insanity of his primitive desires turning reality to also stir Armin to take action against him. 
A little rant: I would like to say Armin saw the Colossus destruction, but tbh, I now think that if he had really seen and remembered people dying like that, flirting with Annie right after would be the last thing he would do if Yams wanted us to take Armin seriously. One does not simply witness one of the most terrifying things of his life and doesn't feel badly impacted with it. And it's why I don't like that right after something as serious as this, Isym inserts a "cute blushing talk" with Annie. It's like Yams is really not letting his characters process what's happening, which makes sense as to show the "inconvenience" of romantic love in war times but it's just laughable for the character context. With Falbi it made sense - Falco was doomed to "die". But with our blonde couple, sorry aru-annies, it's really weird and out of place, imo. 
With Mikasa, Eren was playing pretend they're living in another reality. One in which they had both run away around 12 (?) months ago, after chapter's 123 events. And as soon as Mikasa realizes that, she cracks Eren's facade, conscious of what she ought to do in reality = kill him, because the time irl is the one in which she is flying on Falco while the World is going to hell. There wasn't an opportunity to argue with Eren to stop TR while they're already at the end of it. 
As a side note, it's valid to remember that both Aru-Mika still tried to stop Eren multiple times since 123. The only time Eren gave them the opportunity to speak irl was in chapter 133, when they tried to stop him again. And if doing the Rumbling was Eren's destiny, certainly Mikasa's destiny was to set Ymir free. 
With Eren, he was the only one calling the shots regarding ALL aspects of The Rumbling. He didn't ask for anyone's help, comprehension or cooperation at any moment. Neither in Paths, nor outside of it. 
Eren had seen in his future memory that Mikasa's choice would free Ymir, thus freeing the World from the Titans, so he alone decided to move forward toward that goal (while it mostly aligned with his will to destroy everything and make it all new). He also mentions that he didn't know what Mika would do, but it was apparently enough for him to follow through with his mass murderer acts. So yeah, neither Mika nor Armin supported Eren's craziness. The only one who ALMOST got to support him was Jean iirc - but just because he was really, truly shocked, afraid, mentally and emotionally compromised.
It was Eren who decided everything by himself alone, based on his memories of the future (and past).
3) Who did Eren visit in the paths? Mikasa asks Armin if he remembers when Eren came to meet them all (probably in the paths, but we know Ackermans are not affected by the founder's memory erasure ability so why is she acting like she'd forgotten it all? 
As far as I understood up until now, Eren visited all and only the OG 104th members = Armin, Mika, Jean, Connie, Reiner and Annie. It makes sense because the first 4 were really his adopted family; and despite Reiner and Annie's betrayals, they've all had a strong relationship with Eren during training times. (Reiner and Bertholdth' betrayal revelation shall never be forgotten as Eren cries because of them with YSBG:TT ost </3). 
But regarding the memory erasure, I'm not very sure myself. In chapter 138, I had understood as if Eren was at that precise moment showing Mika the Path AU because time flows really differently in both worlds. Imo, it made sense to me he also left her as the last one because of the impossibility of Mika being mind wiped along with the end of the series. 
However, since 139 came out, I have three more theories: 
The Founder's Power couldn't work well before with Ackermans because they were restricted by the 145th King's Will at the time the Ackermans rebelled against the Royal Family. So it might be that since Zeke broke the Vow, the FP had no more restrictions over everyone;
It can be a continuity mistake by Yams' part;
Inaccurate Translations = maybe Mika didn't mean to say she forgot the Path AU, since she is crying in their dream because in the actual moment the Rumbling is happening, and she knows Eren is about to die, imo. She discovered he was inside his Titan's mouth, and the kiss they shared was most probably because in parallel with that occurrence, her mind was in the beauty of gently holding and kissing him in the Path AU.
Another detail is that the time Ere-Mika spent on Paths seems quite long, more or less like Ere-Min and as “long” as the title of the chapter suggests. When Mika and Eren are talking about if it was okay for Mika to be there, Eren says their life there was going on since they had run away in chapter 123 (what in irl had been nearly a year ago). Mikasa's hair is also a little longer than irl. And it's visible how Eren's behavior changes when Mika shows she “is aware” of what is happening in reality. Then, Mikasa says she knows she said she had promised to not bring the topic again, which seems to suggest at some point their shared dream really lasted a few months in Paths... 
So in fact, it's hard to say how Mikasa dealt with the long dream before reality called her, and she "woke up" in there. She just wanted it to be real so badly that she didn't realize what it was, maybe? Or Eren wiped her memory too. Or still, idk - it can be one of these theories or none of them. Sorry about this one. Someone might have better explanations too haha As Eren said, only Ymir knows!
Until something different comes up, though, I believe more in that Ackermans' memory can't be erased. Not fully at least...
4) Does that mean Levi was affected by the memory erasure too? To me he never sounded like somebody who'd talked to Eren in the paths, but I could be wrong. Do you think he went along with Eren's plan like everybody else easily in the paths? 
Since we don’t know for sure what happened to Mikasa, I don’t really have a final thought about the Ackermans and the memory erasure issue to say confidently "this is it". But, yeah, I don’t think Levi and Eren talked in Paths too.
About the memo erasure - same as above...
But I'm on this with you: I don't think Eren talked to Levi. 
And it's actually interesting that Levi didn't get to talk to Eren. Levi said there was a whole lot he wanted to tell that lil shit in chapter 136. And his last meeting with Eren was horrible - in the blimp, after the Marley attack and then Sasha's death. It was just as horrible as Hanji's - who I think may have been mind wiped when they're talking in the jail in chapter 107, and Eren screams if she had another solution while his face is "titanizing".
Also, I don’t believe anyone was going along with Eren's plan in Paths. In fact, after Hanji reunited everyone and created the alliance, they were all doing their utmost desperate actions to stop Eren. Chapter 133 also shows it. Jean, Connie, Levi, Armin and Mikasa were all trying to convince him to stop and listen. The confessions of their sins in the same chapter also shows that they were aware enough of what was right and wrong despite chapter 139 having a terrible, confusing writing (imo). 
In chapter 139, the untold Path Talk Eren had with everyone doesn’t look like he had asked their help, approbation, or support - it was more like a goodbye, as an old friend and communicating the result of Rumbling. Annie says he told them all to live long lives; Connie - who is surrounded by Colossal Titans dying and would spent years without setting foot on Paradis - is told that his mother will be human again; Reiner and Jean, who had closer dynamics with Eren as a person (Reiner being the “same” as Eren, and Jean once have envied him because “he was cool”), understood Eren's bullhead. Thus, despite the craziness of seeing them all emotional and crying all over Eren (which still makes me unwell), none of them went along with Eren's plan. They were mostly traumatized emotional fools at that point...
And last but not least I wanna ask about Hanji. She's the person who said she can't accept genocide under any circumstances so do you think Eren even talk to both her and Levi too but made them forget about everything. I asked about Levi again because I'm just so lost with everything we knew about the ackermans up until then and this right here is nerfing my logic 😅 Idk maybe it's because I don't want this to be true and think like Eren never talked to Hanji and Levi in the first place because it makes me kinda bitter if they did actually went along with Eren's plan.
I don't think Eren talked to Hans either! 
And, srly, do not even worry about Hanji or Levi accepting and helping genocide as an answer to save the island or themselves!!! That is impossible. It is precisely why they fought so hard and gave all they had to stop Eren!! Hanji's narrative in snk was duty x ideals, and by no means she would bend to Eren's madness of genocide to survive as shown especially in 127. Neither would Levi, as shown especially in 136, when he remembers the devoted hearts of the SC!
Ugh, yeah, the Ackermans had a lot of nice and unique info regarding their bloodline! But the fandom + Isym Schrödinger interviews and manga info about this turns it all into a whole mess lol Don't even let me start with the Acker-bond thing. You might want to re-read Kenny, Levi, and Mika parts chapters 64, 69, 126, 130, and 138. 
Mikasa had half Asian blood, and both she and Levi were the byproduct of Titans science (generally speaking about Ackermans according to Zeke, in chapter 93). Zeke also debunks the "ingrained behavior" of Ackermans in 130 while talking with Eren. Mikasa and Levi are immune to Titan transformation by both the gas from the parasite itself, as well as Levi probably drinking the wine and not turning (as Hanji suggests in 126, and what Levi remembers from their talk while urging Pieck and Mika to get up on Falco in 138).
Thus, I feel more prone to believe again that their memories can't be erased. Ymir pried into Mikasa's mind, making Mika have the headaches whenever she was spying her mind, "seeing the world through her eyes". Who knows what else she was trying to do with Mikasa's mind but her Acker-genes were countering… (like, idk, maybe The Inception concept? lol )
The different panels where everybody's appreciating Eren's deeds for their sake suddenly switches to Levi who's remembering his fallen comrades and thanking them instead. That calms my nerves but then I'm like "how did Levi knew the curse is lifted forever" so he must've remembered sth aka Eren's speech. Ahhh sorry I'm so lost! I would love to read your take on this matter! Thank you in advance! 🌹
I swear I know it is hard to not read 139 like they are thanking Eren too lmao But, again, they aren't grateful for the genocide, TR; just a bit for the end of Titan curse, maybe?! lol  
Honestly, I think the anime/movie will make it sound more like they are losing a friend, and reprimanding him for go that far for them rather than being gratitude (because yes, though shitty to believe after Eren himself just  said he didn't know if his friends would make it alive, indeed cared for them except Hanji 🙃). But I hold Isym accountable for leaving us all with a never fading bad taste in our mouths because 139 is barely readable the way it is. Only Levi (+SC), Onyan and FalBi are savable. I wish Connie and Jean had died lol and I can't stand Eren bird with Mika...
Now!! About the curse lifting- your observation is really good about this little fact! I hadn't heard of this hypothesis yet!!
Well, considering Isym is being truthful to his early takes regarding the Ackermans, Levi might have understood that the Titans were gone since Jean, Connie, Gabi, and Falco (who he was riding the Flying Titan) all turned back into humans. All Colossus Titans also were gone. So being a bit LH brainrot, after years with Hanji and her experiments with Titans as well as Levi's own experience with them, I think Levi got it!! 
Also, the time and pacing of the chapter is faster than the gap between the events we see depicted. Falco and Levi had time to descend from the sky, and I assume (or hope lol) that Falco also helped Levi to sit up by the rock, and they could have chatted a bit about the Shifter Power being gone. But I think just seeing all the Colossus down, the parasite gone, and his kids back to being human were enough proof to Levi that the nightmare was over.
As a side note, it might be biased, but I also prefer to believe that Eren wouldn't have the nerve to face Levi after all he had done. Even trying to be as open-minded as possible, I just can't picture Eren facing Levi and having the nerve to tell him to live a long life. Especially if it was while Hanji was alive or just after her death...
I might truly hate snk and every characters all at once LOL
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Thank you so much for the asks, anon 🌹🌹🌹!! And don't be sorry at all!
I'm glad you feel comfortable enough to come here and speculate with me - I love details, theories and conspiracy haha You're very welcome!!!
I gotta say, though, I can be all wrong with the Ackermans part especially, since Mika did seem like she forgot the memory. But at the same time, snk's time, pacing, and storytelling in 139 is weird, to say the least!
I hope one day the answers are given to this all 🙏
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antiloreolympus · 4 years ago
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10 Anti LO Asks
1. Why is no one talking about one of the most stupid things we've seen in this webtoon thus far? I'm talking about the fact that H&P deadass pull a "I nominate Hades as an attorney to defend me in this case uwu" and the mf accepts (clearly the had it planned) although he is part of the jury.
Now, I don't have fast pass but I really hope this whole thing is forbidded by Zeus in the next episodes. It makes no fucking sense! Hades is not a lawyer, and as a god is not associated with law/justice (him being a king doesn't excuse this, he is there to "judge" not to defend the accused).
This really proves that absolutely nothing works against Persephone ever. She is able to get away with murder and have zero consequences for her actions, all while the smurf plays daddy with her, spoils her and defends her in court WHICH SHOULD NOT BE EVEN POSSIBLE LMAO.
From OP: It’s allowed because ‘loophole’.
2. I would like to add to what that person said about the characters looking too stiff. Literally that panel towards the end of ep. 179 where P said "I nominate Hades" is the best example of this. Wtf is wrong with her hand? It looks like a wooden doll with her arm extended like that. The only explanation I have for this (aside from the fact that the art style sucks big time) is that she's trying to imitate the art style on the ancient Greek amphoras (amphorae?), but even the scenes depicted on them had signs of natural movement, with the bodies looking much less stiff of course.
3. Anyone else wanna mention the backgrounds are also just not there at this point? Like she was already bad with this in the beginning but at least there was some sketch up lines to give the impression they were in a real space, but now it’s literally just blank voids of color and that’s it, and often not good use of color either (why is the above land pink while the underworld is blue? It makes it hard too tell what’s going on). There aren’t even establishing shots to at least give the readers an idea where they are and then becoming abstract about it, it’s all abstract and flat, which doesn’t help when the characters also are so lacking in character design and aren’t really doing anything pose or action wise. The world around them don’t even seem like actual places, it just seems like a set, and a very cheap one at that. It just ends up looking so boring in all fronts.
4. I don't know why it's only happening now but Persephone's eyebrows have started to piss me off lately. Why are they pure black? And when did they become so thick? It doesn't fit in with the rest of her fair and hairless appearance, it just looks like her brow artist did a piss poor job on them.
5. it honestly makes me sad looking at the first few lo episodes. were they perfect? god no, but at least the art was unique and had some actual thought put in it, but by around episode 25 or so you begin to notice the style is becoming less and less, until you have what it is now which is completely different, and not for the better. i know styles change and all, but this is a case where it got so much worse, losing its unique factor to look so generic and lacking instead. it make me sad.
6. Ive noticed LO fans dont seem to enjoy any other greek myth works, only LO. for example there's a huge overlap in PJO fans liking Hades Games and BoZ, and Hadestown fans towards TSOA, and so on and so on, meanwhile LO overwhelmingly don't even read other HxP stuff like Punderworld and openly hate stuff like PJO. They tend to only consume LO while claiming to be "big myth fans". It reminds me of Potterheads who claim to be big book nerds when they've really only read the series and nothing else.
7. its truly a testament to how bad the writing is from RS in that she honestly thought it was a dramatic twist apollo and artemis of all people were children to zeus, despite looking exactly like him and not like their mother. also, tbh, the fact hera humiliated leto and treats the twins like garbage, it is any wonder theyre being depicted so negatively in LO? theyre only used to prop up hades and p's "friendships" to eros and daphne. artemis is even the "bad" maiden. it's all so stupid.
8. the thing to me is no retelling of myths will be perfect, how could they be? but LO takes the cake at claiming its so researched and is the actual truth and is 99%+ correct (both from rachel's words as well as by her fans) with both refusing to even admit to any mistakes and refusing any critique, especially from greeks themselves, that's where the issue is to me. you cannot claim to be so well researched only to be upset when people notice the many obvious inaccuracies. that's not how it works.
9. there's a part of me that wonders why LO has never featured any MLM romances like poseidon, zeus, or apollo's many male lovers, but then i remembered she doesn't care about poseidon and both zeus & apollo are both evil to her, her made up WLW romances are terrible, and all relationships that cant be used to prop up hades and persephone are made cruel and abusive, so maybe that's a blessing in disguise that she's so bad at even remembering LGBTQ+ relationships, much less depicting them.
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10. The whole trial thing just puts into perspective how much plot points go off the rails. I was actually looking forward to finally hearing from Demeter that Persephone IS a fertility goddess and them having a argument before the trial, but then it just left on a Clift hanger. And then oh wow Hades is being her lawyer, which??, pretty sure that’s not how that works but okay whatever he’s going against his brothers. But he doesn’t even make an opening statement because the other side does instead. And then Hermes shows up and his backstory starts and everything gets so muddled. I’m not an expert on court cases but seeing the witness be called up right after and the other side just make a bunch of shi up instead of stating a pathos but accurate opening statement hurts my brain. Not to mention the jury and people just speaking out at random? Like can Rachel just write something serious for once? Or at least somewhat accurate? Legally blonde had a better comedy court case scene than whatever this is.
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louvelylouis · 4 years ago
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hi so i know im sending too many asks and i swear this is gonna be the last one today, you can take ur time answering them :D
i just finished the tenjiku arc :)))) i am not okay :)))))
first of all - izana?? and kakuchan??? see, i knew toman would win but im sobbing pls izana's death was so sad T-T and kakuchan??? he was with him till the end and it was snowing and they held hands. and then kakuchan went and visited all the places they played together im sobbing pls 😭😭😭
and SECOND of all oh my god kisaki fr what even is he- if he's not a time leaper, he just heard takemichi go on about time leaping and was like "oh ok this checks out. doesnt change my plans tho haha die" like. ????? where did he even get that gun from?? he's a fricking middle schooler- and he's just. gone now?? so,,, anticlimatic?? mean girls edition???
(also. damn i kinda knew he liked hina cause u told me but still wtf he didn't even know hina was into delinquents, takemichi just wanted to become one so he too?? became one?? wtf shit motives are those dude get a life)
(also damn angry really took out 50 guys with a broken hand and foot i love him sm)
!!!! and then mikey saying "you created the new era" to takemichi!!!!!
lowkey, i thought he was gonna offer to have takemichi lead toman but he disbanded toman?
like. i get that that's the smartest thing to do but ik there's like a 100 more chapters left,,, where's the conflict gonna take place now?
(i do hope there's like some wholesome panels with them being kids without all the gang stuff)
and then mikey saying "i'll protect everyone here, so u dont have to worry" pls TT-TT
istg if takemichi goes back to the future and hina still dies i will riot nothing can go wrong now
(also ch 191 my beloved <333 we get chifuyu being wholesome and hinata and takemichi being cringe middleschoolers in love <3333)
well anyways, it's 11:15 on a school night i was supposed to be asleep but eh it's just revision tomorrow
hope u have a nice day too TT-TT
hii! u silly i told u it’s ok to send as many as u like (>︿< ) i look forward to them :))) i hope u had a good day at school :D
izana & kakuchan....yeah....these tragic duos really play with ur emotions right </3
lmao told ya none of these would’ve happened if kisaki knew how to handle a rejection 💀💀💀 i wouldnt call it love, it’s just obsessive behavior ://///
ANGRY GOING BERSERK MODE!!!!!!!!!! one of my fav moments istg 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️
ah yes it felt kinda personal when mikey decided to disband toman, i was too into it all lmao. but yeah... maybe he wasnt wrong, like theyre gonna leave with good memories :(((((((
i tHiNk the real deal starts after then. if i remember right, next time takemichi travels back to future, everyone’s alive and happy so no hina doesnt die again sigh. but everything still goes wrong in one way.......... evil mikey go brrr 🙃
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