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this was so self indulgent lmao

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I have to say right now at this point: for me, in the Greek camp, Patroclus and Odysseus attracted a lot of looks of desire and lust.

For me, the two are distant in many aspects, but they have something in common: they both know how to impress people.

Because Odysseus was short for the time and had no initial skills with a sword, since he preferred the bow and the bow in war was considered a "cowardly weapon", he always impressed people with his intelligence and silver tongue. He didn't have much of a filter, sometimes he said things that seemed absurd, but when put into practice they made sense, he was favored by the GODDESS OF WISDOM AND STRATEGY, LADY ATHENA. To me, Odysseus was the kind of person who would wrap you around his finger, that you would start listening to his words and you would fall into this strange spell of finding him attractive, it's like he was a siren, and he also had enviable thighs and chest. So, he was desired for that, he provokes you, like a snake, leaves you wanting and then pretends that it is none of his business and you have to deal with it. Him not shutting up doesn't help either, because every word that comes out of his mouth makes people more desirous, and in my headcanon, Odysseus has beautiful lips.

Patroclus is not as fast or as prominent as his friend and lover Achilles, but there is something about him that intrigues men. Patroclus has very kind eyes, sweet words and a gentle heart, besides being a warrior who stands out on the battlefield. He is calm and always gives his opinion in favor of obtaining a viable solution, something that is easy to do, but there was something that Patroclus had that I'm sure made men blush, which was his boldness, Patroclus is not someone "innocent", he PRETENDS to be so he can get ahead, but he impresses by being bold, he interrupts Agamemnon sometimes, laughs at the words of the kings, despises Odysseus and his ideas, and above all, he knows how to play a good game. I would say that Patroclus is like a fox, which may be sneaky and innocent at first, but if you're not careful, it will devour you.

So, like, in my personal headcanon, a lot of men lusted after these two. They were beautiful, they were stunning and they were favored by Gods (Odysseus by Athena and in some sources, Patroclus by Poseidon). You can't look away from them, only after a good look.

Does that make sense?

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Okay, I NEED you to listen to me, have you ever thought about modern Teleneo, having, believe it or not, CLICHE SCENES?

Like, Telemachus and Neoptolemus alone in a dance hall, like a disco or something, where the two start talking to each other and in a subtle way, open up to each other. And more and more, the two get closer, holding hands and starting to dance a slow and totally clumsy dance, something just theirs, that they just feel and it is so comfortable for both of them!!

Man, I love cliches....

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Okay, I had a vision!

Imagine in a modern AU, Telemachus being a streamer? Like, that would be really funny

"Yeah, later I want to play some horror games that Neo recommended to me.....thanks Nobody_Me for the 5 sub gifts, oh wait, it's my dad. Hi dad, I miss you, hope your trip is going well"

" 'What did your mom make for dinner?' My favorite dish, because I'm the man of the house now that you're away on business. Maybe I'll send you a picture to make you jealous and send you some by mail, Dad!"

"Chat, stop hitting on my mom, SHE'S MARRIED, 'what about your dad?' what's wrong with you, HE'S MARRIED TOO"

" 'Is it true that you have a relationship with Neo and Pisistratus?' ...... yes chat, my two best friends and I have a relationship behind your back and we're getting married this Friday,I'm kidding, we're just good friends!" (They both like Telemachus, he just doesn't notice)

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I'm reading the Iliad in my country's translation (Brazilian Portuguese) and reading Canto 3, I realized that...Helen didn't like Paris or staying in Troy.

Like, I see a lot of people saying that she liked Paris and liked her new home, and didn't want to go back to Sparta with Menelaus. But that's totally wrong when you read the Iliad.

Helen cries when she learns that Menelaus and Paris will fight and tells King Priam that she would rather have died than gone to Troy with Paris. She cries, missing her firstborn, her home and Menelaus.

When Paris is rescued by Aphrodite and the Goddess tells Helen to go take care of her husband, she FIGHTS WITH APHRODITE SAYING THAT MENELAUS WON THE DUEL AND THAT HE WILL TAKE HER HOME, AND APHRODITE GETS PISSED BECAUSE OF WHAT SHE SAYS AND THREATENS TO KILL HELENA, AND THIS TERRIFIES THE POOR GIRL.

And what's the first thing Helena says when she finds Paris after the confrontation? That she would rather he had DIED.

Honestly? For me, Helena clearly demonstrates that she was impulsive when she agreed to go to Troy with Paris, in addition to Aphrodite's influence over her.But she never forgot the love she feels for her country, her first husband and her firstborn daughter, it's remarkable.

How can love cause so much pain? I think this concept written and addressed in the Iliad is very good, seriously.

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I'm going to give you my personal hot take on the Iliad (by the way, it's been a while!)

Menelaus was seen as a father figure by many soldiers, LISTEN TO ME

Menelaus himself is a very "peaceful" man from what little the Iliad shows us, he is a great warrior, obviously, loves his wife Helen and his daughter and is king of one of the greatest nations of the time (Sparta)

But personally, I can see him at many hours of the day, when he has to deal with the affairs of his army, being a very fun and even... fatherly guy. You know that person you're not that close to, but when you talk to them, you feel like they're hugging you in words and you instantly feel comfortable? I think that was Menelaus.

And I think that's really cool! Menelaus is like that because he received a lot of family love. Agamemnon always defended his younger brother's honor, Helen loved him a lot before the whole thing with Paris and he seems like a good father.

So much so that in the Odyssey, he welcomes Telemachus with great joy and a long story about his time at war (like a father!)

I imagine he didn't have much time to act like that in the war, after all, it was a war, but he let that side of him show every now and then.

I'll say that Menelaus is one of my favorite characters in the Iliad (joining Diomedes and Hector on that podium)

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Snork-mimimi type doodles

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I finally finished this. Oh my God. This took forever. I decided against rendering it completely because I like it how it is

Anyway teleneo fans come get ur food

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I'm going to give you my personal hot take on the Iliad (by the way, it's been a while!)

Menelaus was seen as a father figure by many soldiers, LISTEN TO ME

Menelaus himself is a very "peaceful" man from what little the Iliad shows us, he is a great warrior, obviously, loves his wife Helen and his daughter and is king of one of the greatest nations of the time (Sparta)

But personally, I can see him at many hours of the day, when he has to deal with the affairs of his army, being a very fun and even... fatherly guy. You know that person you're not that close to, but when you talk to them, you feel like they're hugging you in words and you instantly feel comfortable? I think that was Menelaus.

And I think that's really cool! Menelaus is like that because he received a lot of family love. Agamemnon always defended his younger brother's honor, Helen loved him a lot before the whole thing with Paris and he seems like a good father.

So much so that in the Odyssey, he welcomes Telemachus with great joy and a long story about his time at war (like a father!)

I imagine he didn't have much time to act like that in the war, after all, it was a war, but he let that side of him show every now and then.

I'll say that Menelaus is one of my favorite characters in the Iliad (joining Diomedes and Hector on that podium)

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My fixation on the Iliad has returned

So, listen to me guys, can you imagine how Penelope felt when she found out that the heroes of the Trojan War had returned and her husband had not?

In the story, Helen and Penelope were close cousins, and I imagine that after the whole Trojan War, Helen would visit her cousin to see her and Telemachus too. But when she entered the hall, Penelope would be confused, asking why Odysseus did not return. Menelaus would probably be confused too and would not know how to answer her, perhaps implying that because Odysseus did not return, he might be dead

And Penelope would only answer: "No, he's not" looking at the horizon in the distance and putting it in her head that it doesn't matter how long it takes Odysseus to appear on those beaches of Ithaca, she will still be waiting.

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i wanted to share my BERRIES with him❤️💙

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trigun brainrot made me change these arcane screenshots into vash and wolfwood

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Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil.

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"You make me SICK."

Part 1

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What can I say, I'm a sucker for these two and after reading @akaittou fan fic about them I've been over the edge since👹

I have to say that while I was reading it I was already imagining it in the form of a comic, but I suck at this type of stuff so what I managed to do is a couple of doodles with terrible panneling, but never mind, lol

I had to cut some dialogues out because they were too long for the panels I had in mind,but trust me they were good😔🙌

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Patroclus and Achilles being very much in love in each other's eyes, practically only seeing each other as they really see each other, two lovers who are unfortunately at war.

And on the other side, for people who don't know them so well, they are literally the destruction of any nation and can take down an entire army single-handedly.