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@tru4ntw4ve Are we forgetting his lyrics in Leathermouth lmao, “murdered fascists make no noise”
I’m not saying he’s a perfect person but I think he’s made his views on fascism pretty apparent. Even aside from that he’s spoken on political and social stuff more than anyone else in MCR and has always made his views super clear.
Also I looked into that guys tattoo and he said its specifically meant to be a Buddhist swastika, it’s surrounded by other religious symbols, and he hates that it got turned into a hate symbol. It’s still odd to have it so prominent, of course, but that guy doesn’t seem to be a fascist, just has poor taste in tattoos
No offense but this situation is getting fairly overblown and some people need to get some perspective
First off: Most people, including me and including almost everyone I’ve seen talking about this (outside of tumblr), did not know about the antisemitic origins of the NWO stuff. It’s really not as common knowledge as y’all think. It is MUCH better known as just “that weird thing that dumb conspiracy theorists think” and I say that as someone who’s been into learning about/making fun of conspiracy theories for years.
2: Yes, I’m not happy about the AI art thing. Yes, it takes jobs from real artists and yes AI is fed by art that goes uncredited. But do I think doing one thing with it is a deal breaker for the band and everyone involved? No, and frankly they are doing it a little better than others I’ve seen. (Tons of people aren’t even making it clear they’re using AI art and/or are implying that they created the art when they use AI)
3: Could his response have been a little bit more well put? Sure, but to be honest I don’t think we’ve ever known Frank to be elegant with words. Take a look at his Twitter and you’ll see he just talks kinda weird and likely doesn’t draft tweets, I’ve always gotten the impression that he just types something out in 2 seconds and presses post. Sometimes they’re weird. Welcome to MCR.
I personally think he’s more just bewildered by accusations of bigotry at a joke that 90% of people wouldn’t even know is problematic. Yes, he could’ve actually apologized but again, most people I’ve seen (including Frank) are just now learning that his joke could be problematic. It’s a confusing situation
4: Frank has been actively progressive and anti-bigotry his entire career and if you think this is some deal breaker, wait a couple days for this to cool off and chill out. I’m not trying to be dismissive of the criticisms here, in fact I’m taking them very seriously and taking personal note of everything I’ve learned. But don’t attack random people for mistakes that anyone could have made.
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No offense but this situation is getting fairly overblown and some people need to get some perspective
First off: Most people, including me and including almost everyone I’ve seen talking about this (outside of tumblr), did not know about the antisemitic origins of the NWO stuff. It’s really not as common knowledge as y’all think. It is MUCH better known as just “that weird thing that dumb conspiracy theorists think” and I say that as someone who’s been into learning about/making fun of conspiracy theories for years.
2: Yes, I’m not happy about the AI art thing. Yes, it takes jobs from real artists and yes AI is fed by art that goes uncredited. But do I think doing one thing with it is a deal breaker for the band and everyone involved? No, and frankly they are doing it a little better than others I’ve seen. (Tons of people aren’t even making it clear they’re using AI art and/or are implying that they created the art when they use AI)
3: Could his response have been a little bit more well put? Sure, but to be honest I don’t think we’ve ever known Frank to be elegant with words. Take a look at his Twitter and you’ll see he just talks kinda weird and likely doesn’t draft tweets, I’ve always gotten the impression that he just types something out in 2 seconds and presses post. Sometimes they’re weird. Welcome to MCR.
I personally think he’s more just bewildered by accusations of bigotry at a joke that 90% of people wouldn’t even know is problematic. Yes, he could’ve actually apologized but again, most people I’ve seen (including Frank) are just now learning that his joke could be problematic. It’s a confusing situation
4: Frank has been actively progressive and anti-bigotry his entire career and if you think this is some deal breaker, wait a couple days for this to cool off and chill out. I’m not trying to be dismissive of the criticisms here, in fact I’m taking them very seriously and taking personal note of everything I’ve learned. But don’t attack random people for mistakes that anyone could have made.
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Fun fact, most people don’t even know about the origins of the terms. I (and most people I’ve seen talking about this) didn’t know about any of that until yesterday. He was clearly just making a quick joke about conspiracy theories.
Y’all genuinely need to go outside and talk to people more before you accuse people of being bigots, that’s not even meant to be rude but this whole thing is genuinely nonsense.
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