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Manfred didn't come to Franziska's debut but Edgeworth did.

Also pretend they are all speaking german because this would take place in Germany.

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hello hi author here. I was casually browsing the Ace Attorney tag, as you do, when I stumbled upon this post and I'm so so so happy and flattered that you not only liked it, but liked it this much?? :D

Anyway I'll obviously be delighted if you do what you said you would do (no pressure of course you don't have to) but just so you know, you're also very welcome to just come scream in my DMs, be it about the fic or about the von Karma family as a whole or just come and make friends y'know. Thank you so so much for reading and even more for reccing this fic I never expected this ever ever ever <3 <3 <3

I rarely recommend fics but holy shit this one

Found a Ace attorney fic that got me staring at the wall in shock at the end of every chapter holy fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk So basically it’s a canon complient fic detailing Miles and Von Karma entire relationship sparing no nuance and no complications it’s mostly canon complient but the few small details it does change serve to intensify canon rather than change it, it comes as a shock every time and it just grabs you in the heart and wrenches it. You’ll have to find it out for yourself.

I have to return to the fic later and comment on each chapter because that’s the only way I can think of the replay the fucking wonder that is this fic.

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So we always meme about phoenix being the big Legally Blonde fan but consider.

It came out in July 2001, i.e. within the window of time for the friend group to exist

Yes it’s pg-13 but if Miles heard about the premise he would be like !!!lawyer movie!!! And then Gregory would chaperone so his son could see lawyer movie, and suggest “you could bring your friends”

Maybe Larry is also there. Maybe he said no because “girl movie”

Phoenix (at the obvious plot point, for dramatic irony value): “wow,…. she really loves him so much……..”

Miles: “but he’s a jerk he doesn’t deserve her”

Gregory: “kids please don’t talk during the movie”

Phoenix likes the movie to a mundane level. Miles imprints on the movie; full special interest. Before it he was like “I’m going to be a defense attorney like my dad!!!” After he’s like “I’m going to be a defense attorney like a) my dad b) Elle Woods”

But then we all know what happens a few months later. This interest is snuffed out in the same fell swoop as the rest of his interest in a defense career

When anyone brings it up, he thinks of his “embarrassing phase” and cringes

HOWEVER. the special place in his heart for it is not entirely turned to dust, as with old special interests in general

Years later. He has passed the bar and MvK has taken him to the tailor

“Edgeworth every prosecutor needs a signature outfit. The tailor already has the pattern for yours but you may choose the primary fabric. Choose wisely; you will wear this in court for some time”

The tailor presents a variety of swatches

Miles sees a certain magenta among the options. An image flashes in his mind

“This one sir”, he is saying before he has the chance to think

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a poorly-written poem that’s most definitely not about something that happened in a video game about lawyers 🏃🏽‍♀️

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All good, I didn't think you were trying to imply anything! My post wasn't a reaction to anything specific either, I just had too many thoughts and I've read a few too many fanfics ^^

I don't think Miles Edgeworth and Franziska von Karma were passive victims.

They are victims, don't mistake me. The ideology of absolute perfection is messed up and every single member of that family is a victim of it, though Manfred is a perpetrator too. Miles especially is a victim - his father murdered, his father's murderer taking him in, either with hatred in his heart or growing to hate him to the point of wanting his life destroyed. But I don't think either Miles or Franziska realised they were victims before Turnabout Goodbyes - Justice for All, for Franziska. I think they fully believed in the von Karma creed and all it entails and gave themselves to it fully and enthusiastically.

What I'm saying is, give me a five-year old Franziska begging to be allowed in law tutoring sessions with Miles. Give me a Miles bitter, disillusioned after DL-6, confiding in his mentor that he thinks he wants to be a prosecutor and not a defence attorney. Give me a Franziska whose "whims" are dismissed by her father, fighting to prove that yes she can be a prosecutor at thirteen - fighting to prove her worth. Give me a Miles more zealous than Manfred in his condemnation of criminals, fervently repeating precepts that Manfred dictates out of habit. Give me a Franziska raised by domestics who don't know how to handle her strong character and barely looked upon by her father, growing up indulged in everything but what she needs the most. Give me a Miles lost, grieving for his father and the moral beacon he represented; give me Miles latching onto Manfred as a new model role, burying an identity now painful and shameful to him to shape himself after Manfred, picking the same suit as him, imitating his every gesture; give me Miles calling him a god or prosecution not entirely out of fear but out of admiration. Give me Manfred looking on them with his head held high and the rare smile, distant but seemingly not inaccessible until they actually try. Give me a dynamic where they don't so much try to avoid his blows or his harsh words as they desperately seek his nod of approval. Give me a world in which they're terrified of him but they fear him out of love, not out of expectation of retribution. Give me a story where they don't rue their loneliness, but take pride in it.

Give me Miles and Franziska unknowing actors of their own unhappiness.

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#i mean this is great op but this is really usually how abuse works#particularly childhood abuse#especially if you've got an already heartbroken and traumatized child like miles was#but yes great analysis#miles edgeworth#franziska von karma#good meta#ace attorney

Ngl, that was kind of my point ^^' Although I'm no specialist, and I wouldn't dare to presume all abuse works the same, or that all victims react the same, I absolutely wasn't trying to make the point that their situation was any less abusive. I just see a lot of them being portrayed as enduring their education completely passively, and maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, but I'm also trying to figure out their whole situation for myself. We don't have all that much canon information about it.

I don't think Miles Edgeworth and Franziska von Karma were passive victims.

They are victims, don't mistake me. The ideology of absolute perfection is messed up and every single member of that family is a victim of it, though Manfred is a perpetrator too. Miles especially is a victim - his father murdered, his father's murderer taking him in, either with hatred in his heart or growing to hate him to the point of wanting his life destroyed. But I don't think either Miles or Franziska realised they were victims before Turnabout Goodbyes - Justice for All, for Franziska. I think they fully believed in the von Karma creed and all it entails and gave themselves to it fully and enthusiastically.

What I'm saying is, give me a five-year old Franziska begging to be allowed in law tutoring sessions with Miles. Give me a Miles bitter, disillusioned after DL-6, confiding in his mentor that he thinks he wants to be a prosecutor and not a defence attorney. Give me a Franziska whose "whims" are dismissed by her father, fighting to prove that yes she can be a prosecutor at thirteen - fighting to prove her worth. Give me a Miles more zealous than Manfred in his condemnation of criminals, fervently repeating precepts that Manfred dictates out of habit. Give me a Franziska raised by domestics who don't know how to handle her strong character and barely looked upon by her father, growing up indulged in everything but what she needs the most. Give me a Miles lost, grieving for his father and the moral beacon he represented; give me Miles latching onto Manfred as a new model role, burying an identity now painful and shameful to him to shape himself after Manfred, picking the same suit as him, imitating his every gesture; give me Miles calling him a god or prosecution not entirely out of fear but out of admiration. Give me Manfred looking on them with his head held high and the rare smile, distant but seemingly not inaccessible until they actually try. Give me a dynamic where they don't so much try to avoid his blows or his harsh words as they desperately seek his nod of approval. Give me a world in which they're terrified of him but they fear him out of love, not out of expectation of retribution. Give me a story where they don't rue their loneliness, but take pride in it.

Give me Miles and Franziska unknowing actors of their own unhappiness.

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I don't think Miles Edgeworth and Franziska von Karma were passive victims.

They are victims, don't mistake me. The ideology of absolute perfection is messed up and every single member of that family is a victim of it, though Manfred is a perpetrator too. Miles especially is a victim - his father murdered, his father's murderer taking him in, either with hatred in his heart or growing to hate him to the point of wanting his life destroyed. But I don't think either Miles or Franziska realised they were victims before Turnabout Goodbyes - Justice for All, for Franziska. I think they fully believed in the von Karma creed and all it entails and gave themselves to it fully and enthusiastically.

What I'm saying is, give me a five-year old Franziska begging to be allowed in law tutoring sessions with Miles. Give me a Miles bitter, disillusioned after DL-6, confiding in his mentor that he thinks he wants to be a prosecutor and not a defence attorney. Give me a Franziska whose "whims" are dismissed by her father, fighting to prove that yes she can be a prosecutor at thirteen - fighting to prove her worth. Give me a Miles more zealous than Manfred in his condemnation of criminals, fervently repeating precepts that Manfred dictates out of habit. Give me a Franziska raised by domestics who don't know how to handle her strong character and barely looked upon by her father, growing up indulged in everything but what she needs the most. Give me a Miles lost, grieving for his father and the moral beacon he represented; give me Miles latching onto Manfred as a new model role, burying an identity now painful and shameful to him to shape himself after Manfred, picking the same suit as him, imitating his every gesture; give me Miles calling him a god or prosecution not entirely out of fear but out of admiration. Give me Manfred looking on them with his head held high and the rare smile, distant but seemingly not inaccessible until they actually try. Give me a dynamic where they don't so much try to avoid his blows or his harsh words as they desperately seek his nod of approval. Give me a world in which they're terrified of him but they fear him out of love, not out of expectation of retribution. Give me a story where they don't rue their loneliness, but take pride in it.

Give me Miles and Franziska unknowing actors of their own unhappiness.

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the main series ace attorney games fell off when they stopped having evil cops you remember in the original trilogy how all police were at best impossibly incompetent and most of the time evil murderers and defending a sixteen year old for a crime she didn’t commit is considered an insane uphill struggle bc the system is so disgustingly corrupt and streamlined and the final boss of the trilogy was the cartoonishly evil serial killer chief of police. you remember how two games later ace attorney five didn’t even have the guts to commit to ‘the police detective is a murderer who abuses his position to get away with it and likes to electrocute the inmates’ that was actually a nebulously foreign superspy disguised as the detective he murdered but the detective was in life probably a really nice guy

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Some late night Ace Attorney brainrot with the underlying thought being "huuuuuh what if they were French huuuuuh".

I'm just very involved with localizations debates about AA and how many things don't make sense, as well with realizing most French people don't know their own justice system. SO, WELL. Why do I feel like I need to justify myself.

also, if the french general attorney uniform wasn't the inspiration for Edgeworth's design, cut me a hand

Shout out to all of my Ace Attorney girlies who will be able to play to AA5 and AA6 in French next week !

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You know, when I see fictional characters who repress all their emotions, they're usually aloof and very blunt about keeping people at a distance, sometimes to an edgy degree—but what I don't see nearly enough are the emotionally repressed characters who are just…mellow.

Think about it. In real life, the person that's bottling up all their emotions is not the one that's brooding in the corner and snaps at you for trying to befriend them. More often than not, it's that friendly person in your circle who makes easy conversation with you, laughs with you, and listens and gives advice whenever you're upset. But you never see them upset, in fact they seem to have endless patience for you and everything around them—and so you call them their friend, you trust them. And only after months of telling them all your secrets do you realize…

…they've never actually told you anything about themselves.

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☉ for the ask game!! I asked Eve this one too I just want to see what everyone does when they get stuck :P

Well the answer is suffer xD

For real though. Basically when I'm stuck I go trial and error. The first thing I do is reread what I have, try to figure out if there's something in my setup that's blocking me. Usually I end up reworking what came before before being able to go on.

Sometimes everything is very clear in my mind re: structure, so in that case I try to force myself through it. Quality is variable but the idea is to get it out. This is... really slow and draining and frustrating and it sucks. But sometimes you just don't have a choice if you want to make any progress.

And then there are the moments when none of that works. So I listen to music, I try to read other things, I let it rest. Occasionally I pick up another easier WIP. I try to remind myself of why I wanted to write the story and get back to that feeling.

But yeah I don't really have a set method or anything I just try several things and see what sticks. It usually takes forever to get me out of the funk, unfortunately. I don't have words and words to explain my processes here, it's really just fuck around until the block goes away ^^

Thanks for the ask! <3

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fic ask game!

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What do you think about pearl?

First impression: I'm not going to lie, it's been so long I don't really remember... I think at first I was a bit confused who she was? She didn't make a huge impression on me

Impression now: she is adorable and, for what I know of children, she feels like an actual kid. (Save for the whole running from the mountain all two hours of train and to the courthouse lol, the devs really just handwaved her being there for Maya's trial xD)

Favourite moment: Her calling Franziska mean and Franziska just being so taken aback. xD

idea for a story: Is Morgan Fey alive by the end of T&T? I vaguely remember a translation discrepancy about it. Anyway I would love for Pearl to visit her post Bridge to the Turnabout. Preferably not alone. Idk if I'd prefer it right after the facts or a few years later, when Pearl has had the time to process it. I would love to read about Pearl confronting her about everything she did, and about all the difficult feelings she must have about those events.

Another potential idea is Pearl's POV of whatever ceremony gives Maya the role of Master. It would be an opportunity for all the conflicting, difficult feelings I talked about earlier, but also to explore Fey family politics and worldbuilding. Idk I need to replay T&T because Fey family drama is soooo interesting and could make for some incredible stories

Unpopular opinion: I don't really have one here. I haven't caught much Pearl discourse on my dash or in the tag xD

Favourite relationship: Well, Maya is her canon closest relationship, and her devotion to her cousin is really cute. But I confess I also want to see more of her with Franziska. Awkward babysitting ftw. x)

Favourite headcanon: Idk if it can really be considered a headcanon but she's Maya's strongest supporter when she grows up. I also like the idea that Maya shared her love of burgers with her and she loves them as much as her, even though she probably can eat less of them at a time.

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What do you think about Mia Fey? For the ask game

First impression: oh hey, she's cool, can't wait to see more of her

Impression now: Badass lady, not perfect but the best characters never are. That "smile until it's all over" philosophy could use some work, for example :3

Favourite moment: Defending Feenie, I think. It was so funny and at the same time so GREAT to see her in action. Oh also "speak for yourself, buddy!" Everyone talks about Edgeworth calling her a bimbo but nobody talks about her calling him a bimbo BACK. xD

Idea for a story: I want to see how she decided to become a lawyer. I want more of her relationship with Maya, I want the infinite questions about what happened to their mother, I want to see her deal with the weight of expectations - and the pressure put on her by Morgan. I want to see her torn between her life here in Kurain, stifling though it may be, and the dreams of the truth - the dreams of the city. I think it could be really cool.

Unpopular opinion: I don't know if I really have any? I'm not sure what are the popular or unpopular opinions about her... I like the idea that her and Maya's relationship isn't all fluffy and pink, even though they sincerely love each other, and that Mia leaving Kurain put a definite strain on their bond. But that doesn't seem all that unpopular a take from what I could see.

Favourite relationship: With Maya! We got to see so little of it, but it looks so heartwarming and complicated at the same time.

Favourite headcanon: Charley's name is an inside joke between Mia and Maya and they never explain its origin to anyone else, not even Phoenix.

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