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logically i know that dean stopped going out and hooking up with people so much in the later seasons because a) the writers didn't want to write that and b) dean was having a *nick nelson voice* proper full-on gay crisis. but like. it WOULD be funny if he really was trying to hook up with people but cas just kept cockblocking him in the most bizarre ways. extra points if cas showed up at the bar and flirted his way into having sex with dean's prospects in his place just so dean wouldn't. like dean leaves for a moment to get another beer or something and cas just materializes out of nowhere and is like I Would Like To Have Sexual Relations With You and because he looks Like That™ the women are like. Okay! Sure! and when dean gets back they're gone and he's too drunk to find someone else so he just goes back to the motel and falls asleep.
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Misha saying the writers were aware of Destiel and would play into it is so WOW yet so unsurprising. Because of course they knew. because you don't write the widower arc. the divorce arc. the MIXTAPE. The: "I left but you didn't stop me," "the very touch of you corrupts." "I forgive you ... I love you." "I lost Cas and it damn near broke me..." "now you might be able to forget about that but I can't!!
"But still beautiful. Still Dean Winchester."
You don't write all that with best buddies in mind.
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Misha Collins saying things as they were is king shit actually
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So am I (x)
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“jensen wouldn't be able to differentiate between me and cas” misha my dude jensen is not even able to differentiate between dean winchester and himself so
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im sorry but no american con will have what european con has: Misha Collins out of his cw enclosure & thriving (canonizing Destiel AND Cockles)
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Playing the telephone game here since there's no video, but looking at various tweets summarizing what Misha said, my takeaway is the writers were aware, and leaned into it purposefully, Misha was concerned that if it wasn't openly confirmed, that opened it up to queerbaiting accusations, that people could construe it that way [note that Misha, like the writers, ran with it, because how else are you going to do the thing despite not being permitted to do the thing, you put an exhaust port in the Death Star] and so he was relieved and pleased when the writers told him they could do Cas's confession.
From past comments we also know he was shocked the network even allowed the confession. "We can do that???" Which again...shows you the state of affairs. Multiple creatives who were for it. And felt the ceiling imposed from on high.
Therefore, Misha Collins pretty much said Destiel isn't queerbaiting.
Yes, Cas's confession counts. Yes it's canonical and openly confirmed as far as Cas being in love with Dean. PR still buried it, but I'm talking about the text, and the meaning of what Misha said.
Why is anyone still mucking around about whether it's canon or not? Does PR make something canon? Is PR (big interviews, magazine covers, DVD extras commentary) the only way Destiel is canon?
Do writers' work count for nothing? Writer intent?
How about Misha, who inhabited Cas for 12 seasons?
Does the actual content of what aired and we saw on screen count for anything???? (including implications on Dean's feelings, which is queer coding, not openly confirmed the way Cas's were, but also not "fanon" either)
Misha might as well have stood on that con stage and shouted DESTIEL IS CANON.
Yeah lol no I'm not going to stop saying Destiel is canon any time soon.
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I can't stop laughing at this picture 😂
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Q: at what point did you think there is something there about cas’s feelings for dean?
MISHA: says the writers and the cast were aware of the thinking from the audience for some time and they played into it. not unfair to characterise it as queerbait. thinks he unconsciously hoped they would go there but didn’t think they would be brave enough to do it. he was wary because he didn’t want to queerbait without follow through.. him and berens had to play the politics to make it happen..
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People always take way too seriously when Misha jokes about cockles, literally all the actors do this, like RW was dry humping JP on last jib LOL. Gay jokes is their thing it seems but it is only a problem when is Misha about Jensen .
Tbf Jensen and Misha’s intricate rituals are a lot different than RW giving JP some form of a lap dance while JP pretends to not be extremely uncomfortable. Idk if you watched the same video as me but JP looked like he was trying not to die. A lot of what Misha says I chalk up to him joking around. But something about Misha is that there’s always a kernel of truth in whatever ridiculous thing he says. He hides the truth behind the grandiosity of an insane statement. However Jensen is very careful with what he says, so when he slips and admits something he probably shouldn’t like calling misha his boyfriend or saying he’s seen him naked on multiple occasions. There’s a world of difference between straight boys doing “gay” stuff for laughs, and whatever Jensen and Misha are doing. Especially Jensen. Cough cough straddlegate cough.
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His hair 🤲💗
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https://x.com/spn_van/status/1784210126812975107?s=46
the rings and cuffed jeans and colourful socks and funky jacket, okay mr fashion!
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living for it!!
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WHAT IS GOING ON AT CROSSROADS 8 OH MY GOD?
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Im SO here for Misha wearing jewelry again 🤩
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Love the bracelet 💗
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we truly have a unique situation with cockles and these actors shipping themselves and making destiel about cockles unprompted but also one of them has come out as bi and then straight but no that doesn't mean he'll stop making jokes about any of this or act any less gay. yes the other guy was weird about destiel at first and now he writes songs about it. he's mostly cool about it now. don't ask him about his dad. this is impossible to explain to outsiders
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things I wouldn't believe happened if I hadn't seen them with my own two eyes:
cain implying cas is dean's collette
dean breaking cas out of naomi's mind control
cas' entire confession
dean's s13 widower arc
"I left, but you didn't stop me."
"he was your boyfriend first."
"the stench of that impala is all over your overcoat" or whatever he said
"don't make me lose you too."
dean turning aaron down not because he "doesn't swing that way" but because he's on a "federal investigation."
in fact, dean's entire reaction to aaron hitting on him
dean's disappointment when he found out aaron wasn't actually into him.
dean's siren being a dude and sam not questioning it despite still being under the impression that sirens infect people through sex
destiel divorce arc
dean completely giving up on life whenever cas dies
dean staying in purgatory for an entire year even though he could have left at anytime simply because he didn't want to leave without cas
dean seeing cas everywhere after purgatory just like how sam saw jess everywhere after she died
dean rewriting his memories of purgatory because he couldn't handle the fact that cas willingly chose to leave him and it was easier to believe that he failed cas instead
dean telling cas he's not going to let him die a virgin
"he's in love...with humanity."
cas putting donatello into a coma because he hurt dean
the handprint parallel (and that being jensen's idea)
"you have me confused with the other angel. you know, the one in the dirty trench coat who's in love with you?"
"sorry but i'd rather have you, cursed or not."
destiel dressed up as cowboys
"are you going to look at more anime or are strictly into dick now?"
"and how is it that you lost dean? I thought you two were joined at the, you know...everything."
the look on dean's face when he realized jack broke cas out of the empty (and the look bobby gave him in return)
"you're hoping castiel will return to you."
dean canonically being cas' human weakness
dean dropping to his knees and praying to cas while sobbing because he was scared of losing him
dean and crowley having orgies together
the mixtape
dean flirting with a guy through charlie
just the general way dean and cas look at each other and interact with each other like idk what else to say lmao
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