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its wild how we're all expected to go on with things as normal despite the state of things rn. People are being deported and kidnapped, protestors are getting beaten and run over, the president just illegally bombed a country without congress approval, and now we're probably going into yet another war in the middle east, among all the other wars and humanitarian crisis going on right now....yet we're all expected to just go to work, school, etc. and pretend like everything is fine....

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good morning. you will very likely encounter very scary, very upsetting information, situations, and people today. in light of that —

I love you. Whether you’re my irl best friend or a mutual or just a stranger who comes across this. I love you. You are not alone. We are all going through this together. Don’t give in to fear and despair. Do what you can do; let us work on the rest. Love who you can love. Help who you can help. We are here together.

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Back on 'what is this story' but it's really creepy to seriously date for 4 years and almost marry someone, to then go and... marry his brother?? It's just so creepy

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The imagery of Belly falling in this show is interesting.

I was rewatching last nights episode (obviously) lol and it occurred to me how many times Belly has fallen in this damn show.

In season 1, on the beach at the bonfire, on the cake at the Fourth of July, girl is clumsy

Then in season 2, at the funeral and now at the party but one key difference is that she was caught this time.

Jeremiah was there to catch her instead of her falling on the ground, haven’t entirely digested what it means but it’s interesting imagery that she’s finally letting herself fall into something new

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sometimes i think about how belly, after just being abandoned without her clothing, called jeremiah and immediately felt so much safer when he came— SO MUCH SO that she wanted him to touch her in the car. like literally took his hand and placed it on her chest because she felt safe to do so. i mean verbatim “i was always so scared for when this moment would come. but weirdly, i’m totally fine, because it’s jeremiah.” and then i get emo

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Why I’m team Jelly

Something about Belly and Jeremiah makes so much sense to me. They just ‘flow’. Idk if that’s the right word, but it’s how I see them. Everything with them seems natural and easy, like they don’t have to try with each other, they just are.

I do understand why the Team Conrad people want to see them together (in some ways) but in my opinion, Jeremiah is the right choice for endgame and is Belly’s future.

Conrad was Belly’s first love. He was the older brother who was always sweet to her and who she harboured a crush for, for so many years. But Jeremiah’s the love that’s always been there. He’s the love that all of a sudden hits her in the face and she goes ‘how has it taken me this long to see it?’. Jeremiah is the boy who stayed at home with her for a week because she was sick and he didn’t want her to be alone. He’s the boy she stayed home for when he got sick too. He’s the boy she would run with to the beach with and play in the water. The boy who she knows “better than any boy”. She’s the girl who makes him feel seen (which only his mum and belly do). He’s the guy that will ‘always come and get her’. No matter at what stage Belly was in in her life, wether she was going on a date with someone or if she was little and was going to be home alone sick, Jeremiah pushed his own feelings aside, and chose to be there for her.

Maybe it’s only me seeing this as someone with a soft spot for Jelly, but everything seems less awkward with Jeremiah than it does with Conrad. Don’t get me wrong, there’s been more than a few moments with belly and Conrad where I’ve been like ‘omg that’s so cute’, but there’s also a slight awkwardness there sometimes. But I’ve never felt that there’s been an awkward moment between Belly and Jeremiah. Even when they were in the car together after not speaking for months, it was quiet and there was a tension, but it was never awkward.

They have such best friends to lovers energy and they have most importantly endgame energy. My only hope is that they show more of Belly feeling love for Jeremiah and not just Conrad. Because it’s so obviously there, so I need to see more of it. That boy means the world to her, and I’d like to actually see that shown more than it is.

Idc what anyone says, the relationship that Belly and Jeremiah have is so much healthier than with her and Conrad. Jelly communicates with each other, they tell each other how they feel and the love they have for each other (and I’m not just talking about romantic here) never falters, no matter the situation. Conrad seems to give affection and then pull away. He’s more talk than walk, whereas Jeremiah is more walk than talk. I know Conrad suffers with his mental health, and as someone who does as well, I can sympathise with him and understand why he does some of the things he does. But are we going to sit here and say that Jeremiah doesn’t suffer with his too ? I feel like people forget that Jeremiah has also lost his Mother. And he was there watching it happen, he saw her slipping away, that surely has had a huge impact on him. Not to mention that whilst it was happening, the girl that he was in love with was dating his brother, and he stood back and let it happen because he wanted both his Brother and Belly to be happy.

The entire scene with Belly and Jeremiah at the college sums them up for me. The montage of them giving each other piggyback rides and twirling each other around, Jeremiah tucking Belly’s hair behind her ear (did anyone else notice that when Conrad did that, she pulled away and asked him if she had something on her face, but when Jeremiah did it, she didn’t even flinch ? just saying 👀) the montage radiated nothing but complete joy, happiness and love and affection. And even in the serious moments, like when they talked about the future, Belly planned it with Jeremiah in it. And say what you want, but she didn’t plan it as ‘friends’ she was planning that future as a ‘we’, as a couple.

When Belly was at home and looking through the pictures of the boys and Susannah, clearly upset and missing them, it’s Jeremiah she called, despite them not having spoken in months. When it comes to belly’s struggles, she will always call Jeremiah for help. Always. And when it comes to Jeremiah’s, Belly is the only one that makes him feel better. Always. They just work. (Thinks if the tower of terror scene)

I just don’t want Belly to get back together with Jeremiah, only for her to then break his heart again. She clearly wants him, so let’s keep it that way, I am begging. Jeremiah deserves the world and Belly is his world. And Belly deserves the love she’s always craved (and without even noticing it at the time, Jeremiah is the love she’s always craved). She built Conrad up in her head, she gave him traits that she wanted him to have because she loved him, she gave him chance after chance because she loved him. But that true love, happiness fairly tale that she’s always imagined, that’s Jeremiah, and now is the time for her to notice that (as it seems she has) and to STAY thinking that.

I know how the book ends, and before anyone asks, no I haven’t read them. But I really do hope that they change the ending for the show. Jelly is a pure love. It’s a true love. They’re ‘real’ in the words of Belly. I’ve said this on someone’s post before, but the song Daylight by Taylor swift is very Jelly coded. The lyrics ‘I once believed love would be burning red, but it’s golden’ sums it up. Conrad was Belly’s burning red love. The love that yes, was deep and meaningful, but was also complicated and painful. Jeremiah is her golden love; also deep and meaningful, but the love that’s bright, one that makes her happy and is just easy. She never has to question herself around him, she can just be Belly.

And whilst im at it, I’ve seen a lot of discourse of people calling Belly a ‘bad person’ and I feel the need to stick up for her here. Has she made some mistakes ? Yes. Questionable ones ? Yes. But she’s a teenage girl for gods sake. Are you telling me that your teenage self has never made a questionable decision ? Are you telling me that your teenage self had never hurt someone ? Belly is young and has two boys who clearly care about and love her wanting her. Boys who have been in her life always. Of course she’s going to be confused and make decisions that hurt someone. I’m not saying she’s never in the wrong, because of course she is, but so is everyone at some point in their life. Again, she’s a teenaged girl, give her a fucking break. I never see anyone calling the boys ‘bad people’ for the questionable choices they’ve made.

Anyway, Jeremiah is Belly’s person. And Belly is Jeremiah’s person. Enough said. And also, THAT kiss!

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When Steven said that Conrad challenges Belly, he can only have meant her sanity because I see nothing else.

Seriously though. How has Conrad challenged Belly? I’ve not seen any evidence to back this statement up. I don’t recall him ever asking her what her plans for her future were. Jeremiah talked to her about college. Jeremiah pushed her to get back into volleyball because it’s what she loved. Seriously, when did Conrad challenge her?

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So… Jere being rightfully pissed off that she was yeeting him for his brother the day after finding about his mom was him being an “asshole” and “being mean to Belly”. But Conrad throwing in her face that messing with her was a mistake is because “he was upset”, “his mom just died”, “he’s just saying those awful things to her to push her away”. I swear, you guys are killing me. The way some of y’all act like Conrad is the only one allowed to express his feelings, or say something shitty when upset is mind boggling to me.

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I'm supposed to find Belly's first time with Conrad romantic ?

Really ?

Sorry, but the Kissing You music from Romeo & Juliet and the fireplace running isn't enough for me.

Already, the fact that the Kissing You music is playing only reminds me of the doomed nature of the relationship Bonrad has been in throughout this entire season 2 (and since season 1 when you think about it).

But also... well the fact that Belly makes love for the first time, in the middle of winter in an unheated house, her stomach empty, and on a carpet doesn't seem ideal to me...

The fact that Conrad barely seems to touch her also bothers me. Whether it's while they're doing it, or even after the act where he literally turns his back on her.

Like... wtf ?

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Maybe it’s becuase I’m 26, been married for 4 years, and is a mom that I can’t be team toxic relationships. I’ve had my fair share of Conrad/Belly relationships. They broke me. I was always feeling desperate. Always chasing a fantasy of a guy that wasn’t real. This is what I’ve seen so far in the these two season of the Summer I turned pretty. I haven’t read the books, but I don’t have time yet with a toddler. Im strictly speaking about the show. I was rubbed the wrong way when Steven said Belly needs “someone to challenge her. Jeremiah doesn’t do that.” That’s bothered me. I married my Jeremiah. The way Jeremiah treats belly is how my husband is. From the moment, he asked me out he pursued me. His intentions and feelings were laid out clearly. His passion for me was driven by a force of love I can’t describe. Honestly, that’s marriage material. Marriage is a challenge, relationships are a challenge. You don’t need a toxic relationship to challenge you as a person. You need the right person to love you unconditionally and unashamedly to challenge growth. That kind of love challenges you to grow for that person. Love won’t always be fireworks as she states I can’t see myself with someone I don’t have fireworks with. My husband is calm and steady. He encourages me to be me but also gently brings me back to earth. I feel safe. Every other relationship I felt anxiety and fireworks as they say. When I first kissed my husband I felt safety, at home, and roaring mutual passion. (Those Team Jelly kisses are something else!) I want to see this show navigate what healthy relationships look like and encourage them. I’m tired of the overly glorified toxicity. That’s why I think season three needs to change the ending to her and Jeremiah.

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Conrad used Belly’s fear against her.

Jeremiah stood in it with her.

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And he didn't forget FINCH

"jeremiah forgot her favorite candy!" firstly, some people's parents don't even know their kids favorite candy and it doesn't mean they don't love them or know their child less. and second, you know what jeremiah wouldn't have forgotten? the corsage

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I am Team Jeremiah, but that doesn’t mean I hate Conrad. However, I find it very hard to feel any sympathy for him: an essay.

I truly hope Conrad finds happiness. I just don’t think he and Belly are right for each other. And no, I haven’t read the books (you can read my feelings on that argument in another post I’ve done lol), so I’m just going off the show.

I am Team Jeremiah, I make no secret of it. But that’s because he is just the better choice for Belly. Not because he is better than Conrad, full stop. They both have their flaws. Should Jeremiah have made out with his brothers ex girlfriend like that, without at least talking to him first? Hell no. But come on - the guy tried to resist. He tried so hard. Belly kept pushing. And let’s remember what Conrad said to Belly at the start of the season after they kissed - ‘Do you want to be with him?’ ‘Being with you is all I’ve ever wanted.’ ‘Okay so be with me then.’

Belly choosing Conrad over Jeremiah was all that mattered back then, not how it affected anyone else, even though she was quasi-dating his brother for most of the summer. He didn’t give a fuck about Jeremiah and if it wasn’t for Belly saying no, he would have flaunted her immediately, even knowing she had kissed Jere a few times. When he asked Jeremiah for his blessing, I don’t believe he did that for any other reason than Belly would continue to distance herself from him until she believed Jere was over it. Conrad did not go to Jeremiah to make sure he truly was okay. He was ticking a box for Belly. Jeremiah was quite obviously not okay with it but Conrad chose to ignore that because he wanted Belly. We saw that in what he told Belly about it afterwards. He took the parts of the conversation that suited his narrative and the outcome he wanted, and he ran with it. And it worked. Jeremiah got hurt, and Conrad didn’t care, because he had Belly.

Their relationship wasn’t this epic love story. I still don’t understand where it came from. I understand Belly’s crush. But when and how and why did Conrad start loving her? The writers of the show seemed to just say ‘he just does’ and we are supposed to say ‘okay yeah sound makes sense.’ I just don’t understand the timeline. Besides that though… Look, I understand and empathise with the fact that his mom was dying while they were dating, and that he was struggling with his mental health. It was a lot for an 18 year old to deal with. (Of course, Jeremiah was dealing with it, too, but Conrad stans conveniently forget that). But Belly suffered in that relationship because of it, and no one should have to do that. To me, it seemed like she was always waiting for the other shoe to drop. Waiting for him to pull away. Scared. Maybe Conrad wasn’t going to break up with her at prom, and she jumped the gun, but it says a lot about how she was feeling that she immediately assumed that. A relationship shouldn’t be like that.

Jeremiah, though… from day one he was open and honest with her. He asked her straight up if she could ever love him like she did Conrad and she said YES. Belly said herself - Jeremiah is always there when she needs him. That’s what you need in a life partner. And fuck me, the passion they have. A perfect blend of supportive and passionate. Tie that man DOWN. He is supportive, he defends her, he speaks his mind, he is honest and reliable (the only time we saw him ‘let her down’ in any way was when he missed the dance at the Deb Ball and jeez, he had a damn good reason so no one can blame him). He makes her laugh. They can have fun together, but can also have the serious conversations. I married my best friend and I wouldn’t have it any other way. It’s honestly amazing to know you have that person who truly sees you, loves and supports you. Who is your comfort. Jeremiah is that for Belly. Honestly, I could go on and on about how Jeremiah is the perfect match for her - and the chemistry between Gavin and Lola definitely adds to it, but it isn’t the only factor - but everyone has probably given up reading by now…

Both boys have been dealt a shit hand, losing their mother. Both boys have made mistakes and have flaws. But they both have incredibly good qualities, too. Personally, I just think that Jeremiah is more suited to Belly, and they will have a happy, healthy relationship.

Also, the way she kissed him back in that episode… I’m sorry but there’s no way she’s not jumping his bones when they start officially dating. It wouldn’t make sense to me. She was smiling against his mouth and knotting her fingers in his hair, and it was ‘Wattpad level hot’, as Taylor would say. Considering she’s already done the deed, I can’t see any logical way for the writers to incorporate a ‘no intimacy’ storyline for them. Especially after that scene in particular, but also their first kiss in the pool back in season one, and the booby fondling in the car - WHERE BELLY STRAIGHT UP SAID SHE WAS NOT NERVOUS BECAUSE IT WAS JEREMIAH. Sorry, but let’s be real - there’s not a chance in hell those two are not banging the brains out of each other. And good on them. So I hope that is a change made to the books. Furthermore, show-Jeremiah cheating? I cannot see it happening. I really really hope it doesn’t.

IF Bonrad must be endgame, then please, Jenny Han, I beg of you to right your wrongs and not assassinate Jeremiah’s character to reach that ending. There are better ways to do it. But I maintain that the better choice for Belly is Jeremiah. And Conrad should meet someone new who is more emotionally mature and able to deal with his very obvious mental health problems. Someone he feels he can open up to about them. Because, as a sufferer myself, you need that support. Belly doesn’t provide that for Conrad and, as a result, Conrad doesn’t give Belly what she needs either.

One last parting thought - what the fuck happened to Jeremiah and Steven’s friendship? Jeremiah told Steven how much he cared for Belly in season one. Why did literally no one listen to him? And how did no one see it in the way his entire personality seemed to shift in season two. He’s lost his sparkle. YES most of that is because of his mom, but is everyone really that blind to him? No one notices that poor guy. He’s completely overshadowed by Conrad in every aspect. Everyone just expects Jeremiah to roll over and let everyone else have their happy ending while he gets trampled on because he’ll ‘just get over it’. Come on. WRITERS - DO BETTER. There is too much phenomenal acting talent in this show to let bad writing and tropes ruin it.

In conclusion, I haven’t written this much on one topic since I did my degree and I am obsessed with this show. Goodbye.

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It blows my fucking MIND that people are team b0nrad. Especially after watching both seasons in full. All belly ever is around Conrad is sad, lonely, confused and hurt. When shes with Jeremiah, she has this smile and joy about her that cannot be faked. Because she’s with someone who would HATE to cause her pain and does everything in his will to make sure shes happy. And people are still out here like ‘boohoo, conrad, my sad boi, get your girl back’ bitch, that man is toxic as fuck, he should go get some therapy

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SPOT. THE. DIFFERENCE!!

Belly and Conrad after their first time. Belly tells Conrad she loves him while he's ASLEEP with his BACK facing Belly. She's looking at him while he's looking away - very one sided. (side note: why did they have their first time on the floor??? with no cuddles???? who thinks this is romantic?)

Belly and Jeremiah. Smiling! Happy! They're looking at EACH OTHER!!!! SUPER MUTUAL!!!!!! (also bonus points for being on an actual bed LOL)

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literally why would anyone choose a sobbing "I thought you knew" over the beaming happiness and glow she has when she's with Jere

It blows my fucking MIND that people are team b0nrad. Especially after watching both seasons in full. All belly ever is around Conrad is sad, lonely, confused and hurt. When shes with Jeremiah, she has this smile and joy about her that cannot be faked. Because she’s with someone who would HATE to cause her pain and does everything in his will to make sure shes happy. And people are still out here like ‘boohoo, conrad, my sad boi, get your girl back’ bitch, that man is toxic as fuck, he should go get some therapy

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Like bro why would you have sex on the floor for your first time?!!? With no cuddles????? No snacks??????

Am I the only one who finds Belly's first time with Conrad not romantic at all ?

No, because I see so many people romanticizing this scene because of the Romoe & Juliet Kissing You music and the fire in the fireplace...

Except that the guy still made her drive for several hours, obviously without water or food the whole way and once he arrived he knew very well that there would be nothing in the house to feed them ?! Why did he even bring Belly here without water or food ?! And why does he find it funny ?!

And why doesn't he turn on the heating in the middle of winter ?! It must be just as cold in there as outside !? And it's winter !?

So basically, Belly has her first time on a fucking rug (when there's a couch right behind them !) in an unheated house in the middle of winter with her stomach dying of hunger ?!

Is this really supposed to be romantic ?!

And the discomfort of the rug for a first time... are we talking about it ?!

AND THE FACT THAT HE SLEEPS AT THE END WITH HIS BACK TO HER ?! BACK TO HER?!

And I'm not even going to dwell on the fact that it looks like he barely touched her during the act... Seriously Conrad, wtf?

This scene just made me uncomfortable.

And sorry but the fact that Kissing You is playing during this scene just gives me vibes of tragedy to come for Bonrad, not positive ones.

And how gullible Belly can be... Obviously he took her there to fuck her. It's obvious. Why even hide it ?! 😂

The guy literally preferred lighting the fireplace to warm them up instead of the fucking heater. I doubt it's to create some sort of romantic atmosphere. 😂😭

The way he slept is what got me ! Like wasn’t he just sat on the couch afterwards whilst she was still lying on the floor ?! Like ffs she just had her first time, what are you doing ?! Cuddle her ffs