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[chimerz]

this is such an important discussion to have. this problem has been going on for so long, and the fact that its the same people is extra worrying.

The State of Fanfiction in the JRWI community

Sorry if this becomes a rant, I feel more comfortable speaking about it here plus the actual problem does tend to stem from this site.

A lot of the Twitter side of the JRWI fandom is finally realising that in the fic space on AO3, which is the main place a lot of people look for JRWI fics at least to my knowledge, the Suckening part of the fic space is extremely overrun with inappropriate content. And I'm not talking about blood or gore or certain serious topics, I'm talking about sexual content, twincest, and non/con, you know proshipper stuff.

I'm well aware that stuff like that in a fandom is inevitable, especially on AO3 of all sites. However considering that at least 1/4 to 1/3 of the fics under the Suckening campaign tag include that content it definitely presents as at least a bit of a problem. I had a look through the tag myself and on the first two pages alone 14/40 of the fics involved this inappropriate content.

Now with the Twitter being a lot more vocal, I have observed a lot of the fic writers tend to congregate here, especially the problem ones. To give you an idea of what some of the people are like, one of these fic writers is the same person who tried to organise that proshipper BITB zine (funny that there tends to be an overlap between those two fanbases), who was found to write and post about twincest and non/con as well as being involved in servers where people would age down characters to make the ships even more problematic. This person also had/was part of a 'JRWI anti-censorship' discord server where people would create and share more content like this.

Granted as wrong as it is at least the server means it's technically kinda private and out of the public's way, but considering there were minors found in these servers, (they also had a non-jrwi related one and in none of the servers did they check for your age), and that it used to be openly displayed on their profile prior to being called out, it's definitely very concerning that minors were being invited into these spaces in the first place. On top of that one of the mods for that server is also one of these fic writers filling the fic space with proshipper content, which does lead me to believe a lot of these people making this stuff are all mutuals and do share a space where this content is openly encouraged.

I'm saying all this just to show an example of the kind of people who are making this content, and that it's actually a lot deeper of a problem then just "oh no my fics are all gross!" I've seen people saying they now avoid looking for Suckening fics at all because there is just this overabundance of proshipper content for the fics of that campaign.

I think because of the overall fandom attitude towards dealing with problems in the fandom it's allowed for harmful people like this to think it's acceptable to just keep making stuff like this. I wish there was a way to get that content taken down but it seems one of the few things that can be done is creating a block list so that people know who to avoid, just as a way of saying "Hey if you make/consume this content you're not welcome here."

To end this on a positive note there is a much more fun way to try and help against this problem. It might be just putting a band-aid over it, but to the fic writers who've had any temptation or ideas to write fics for the Suckening, now is the perfect time! If we wanna see less of this problematic content and create a healthy fanfic ecosystem, the place needs to be filled with more fics! Whether you think you're good at writing or not, or wanna write something cute, funny, heartwrenching, now is your chance to help.

Write down your ideas in the comments or reblogs for other people to see. I do hope this post reaches people since unfortunately the Tumblr and Twitter sides of the community tend to be pretty separated, and I think it's important for people this side to be aware when there's problems happening.

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In the very least it makes building a block list easier? Idk about you but I wouldn’t want anyone who thinks this is ok ANYWHERE near me

Idk maybe I’m wrong to think that talking about wanting to rape children in a semi public server is bad

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I’ve seen the post by mantis excusing their behavior and the server they run in. I have things to say, clarifications to make, etc etc. I will save most of them for when I have the time to address EVERYTHING.

I will say, mantis doesn’t know what doxxing is. I didn’t reveal any usernames, any real names, any ages whatsoever. Just a screenshot of the members list, so that people who KNEW you could ask YOU about what the hell yall are doing, if they cared. You were not doxxed, you were held accountable for where you are. And based on the people who have come to us privately letting us know how some of the people in your space have acted towards them, I really don’t know how much I trust your word. “Well moderated” and “no censorship” does not exactly work in the same context lol.

I will say, I think calling you all degenerates was a stretch. I think I was pretty emotional off seeing what kind of things were discussed in that space but I think proshipping is,,, its something that will exist regardless of what anyone does, and if someone finds comfort in it, that’s their biz. Personally I think shipping incest is gross, I think EVERYTHING in those underage channels needs to be picked apart by the proper authorities, but I also acknowledge that you exist. I don’t like you but you exist. I hope you all are able to heal and get rehabilitated, all of you who seek that course of action.

Yall need to figure out age-moderation. Yall need to stop involving minors in what you do, and NO, a minor being open about being a minor is not a danger, it’s safety net so if someone acts like a FREAK towards them or does something that could harm them, they have that avenue of being able to seek justice because at least the person was aware of their age. Normal people do not see a minor and see something to exploit(I’m staring at all 18 of the members who had the “underage” tag.) You don’t need to “protect all kids” or whatever, just keep them out of your spaces. Thats literally the easiest thing ever. And if a kid lies, you have already done your end of the obligation. I can’t believe I have to explain this to anyone.

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“I can excuse cp, but I DRAW THE LINE at posting their names-“

YOU CAN EXCUSE CP?????

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In case you were curious, their No Censorship Server does not have ANYTHING, rules, warnings, otherwise, to keep minors out of their server <3 the most they have is a “engage at your own risk” rule, which, btw, is not how space curation works. Especially when the server owner and mods are full-ass adults.

While I am generally not that interested in policing nsfw in the jrwi server (mostly bc the only thing ppl cite when saying the council does not support it is a screenshot from three years ago and not like, a public statement, and especially considering the whole Dark Puckered Hole episode and its contents) I really am disgusted by what that server had in it.

In case you were curious, they tell you themselves what they’re about in their role picker!

Yea shoutout to the “children crossing” sign they decided to use to give access to their underage content channels. Tasteful /s

Again, there is no age verification of any kind that this server is behind. The most they have is asking you to “dm a mod” to gain access, and they are more concerned about “trolls and spam” than the age of their members. And they don’t even do that well, the mod who let me in gave up halfway through.

Oh also btw, this is the status of said mod who let me in.

Yay.

Here’s the member list, NOT TO HARASS THEM BUT TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THEY ARENT IN ANYONE ELSES SERVERS. I censor my own user entirely bc I don’t want to be in the same screenshots as these degenerates. If anyone you know on this list is a minor, lmk, and let THEM know they’re in an incredibly unsafe space. And probably being groomed. Stay safe guys.

Oh also. The content in this server is. Traumatizing. Dont join it. I did it so you wouldn’t have to. They were aging down already underage characters because they weren’t “enticing enough”. Writing situations where a minor comes onto an adult and the adult “just can’t resist” etc etc. jail. Jail for 1000 years.

These are not people “coping with trauma” these are not people “expressing their creative freedom”. They are disgusting individuals who prey on kids, specifically for their young age and being underdeveloped. And regardless of how “private” these people believe their space to be, it does not change the Actually Illegal content that is held in their space.

These people are not “anti-censorship”, they are “anti-accountability”

I also believe in letting people enjoy what they want without being bashed, but this goes far beyond that. I just really pray that they are keeping their inclinations to their fantasies, and that no one is being hurt by this.

I have reported what I can, where I can. Just because it is over the internet does not mean you are above rules or laws. If you have had a run in with these creeps that could be reported, report it. Do what you can.

Important PSA for JRWI fans

If you're a minor, artist, cosplayer or anyone who participates in zines, please read this, it is very important because I'm not sure how many artists are actually aware of this and have fallen for it.

Now I'm not on Tumblr a lot nor do I like to make posts like this, but this is just too important to not bring up. I won't be naming specific names, as there is a minor involved in this, however I believe its important people are aware of the blog so that they know to avoid it.

As per usual, DO NOT GO HARASS THESE PEOPLE. This is merely a post to inform people to AVOID and NOT SUPPORT this project.

Recently I found out about a Blood in the Bayou zine by 'just-zine-with-it' opened its sign up forms, and like a lot of artists I at first assumed it was a regular project, letting other artists know since it's not often projects like these come up. That was until I received a DM showing a GLARING issue.

Now unless you live under a rock, most people know that these subject matters are EXTREMELY inappropriate, especially considering a. The Council have specifically stated their boundaries around NSFW content, and this more than crosses those boundaries. b. There are a lot of minors in this space, both regular viewers and creators, who should definitely not be exposed to these sort of topics that are frankly quite illegal.

"But they put a warning" yeah, at the very bottom of the post. If you're like me and a lot of other artists, you might have seen them put 'Dead Dove' and simply assumed they were talking about the use of gore since this is a project for a Call of Cthulhu campaign and is known for being quite gory compared to the rest of the campaigns in JRWI. However, I would like to note how not only do they actually include NSFW and problematic topics, but the fact that these warnings are kept at the bottom of their guidelines page. And I want to note, no where on these pages nor their main blog account do they ever state that this project is for 18+, meaning they are perfectly open for minors to join this project.

Again, I'd like to note the fact that on their main blog they don't state anywhere that this is for 18+ participants only nor that it can contain NSFW/sexual themes. It just looks like a perfectly normal zine blog that anyone can apply for. It's borderline predatory considering what some of these people support.

And before someone points it out, yes I am calling them out despite their wish to "not be involved in drama". When you decide to go out of your way to allow these topics in spaces with minors in them, it becomes our job as adults in the fandom to help maintain the fandom as a safe space, especially when there is a large majority of minors that use Tumblr as their main social media. If you want to participate in illegal and wrong subjects do it in your own private servers, don't try and sneak it into public spaces. Or better yet, just don't. But there's not a lot I can do about a persons personal online wrong-doings.

The main mod for this project is a pro-shipper and 'anti anti' and as you can see from their account, is quite proud of the fact, even having a "anti censorship" server for JRWI fans despite again, the Councils explicate request to not create subject matter about this.

As for another mod, I'm surprised to find them involved in this project considering they only got out of a drama involving exposing minors to NSFW topics only a few months ago. As an artist I used to respect and like, I am more than disappointed to see them getting so closely involved that is WORSE than what they were accused of before. Also the fact that despite promoting other projects on their other social media, there seems to be a lack of advertising for this one, which I suspect to be them hiding this from the larger community on purpose.

As for the other mod who is a confirmed minor, I can only hope they're unaware of how wrong the stuff they're allowing in this zine actually is. Again they're a kid, they don't know any better, but I really hope they can separate themselves from this project before its too late.

The main mod's pinned post

I've talked to other artists who both considered joining or actually joined and many have told me how they didn't actually see that warning or caught it just in time, which shows how weirdly shady this zine is by sneaking these topics into a place where younger or newer artists won't know any better. So if you're an artist who has seen this zine and is considering applying don't, and if you've already applied I implore you to back away from the project. Especially if you are a cosplayer, I doubt anyone would want to have their face or name associated with a project like this. There are far more trustworthy figures in this fandom that organize zines and projects, and there will be many more opportunities to join safer events.

I don't want to have to ask but I believe it's important this information is shared to other JRWI artists on this site, it's important for people to speak out about these issues so that the wider community who don't know or are misinformed can make wise decisions and avoid people and projects like this. This isn't some petty drama, this is serious and deplorable and needs to be called out so stuff like this doesn't fester.

Remember to check every piece of information in a project and double check the creators behind them. Stay safe out there.

[chimerz]

the chimera no longer wishes to speek

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why did everyone like my posts while i was gone how did you get here

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i still havent figured out digital, here chib

people keep telling me i should kiss him and now i am curious of what the fandom thinks of him, because in the podcast he is played in a way where everyone is unattracted to him. is he a fan favorite?

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what is the suckening..?

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terrified of people versus knowing i need friends. give me a pamphlet ill figure it out i promise.

[chimerz]

i had not considered this. is this what people on internet call lovers to enemies?

hi i dont understand tumbles here chip

i am on the fence on whether i want to fight or kiss this man

[chimerz]

hey jrwi fans im caught up on riptide but new to the fandom (was too scared to interact while I wasnt finished with it) are there any things I should be aware of in tumblrs jrwi fandom? jokes or prominent figures or otherwise

[chimerz]

digital art is so hard how are you lot doing this

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figuring a fish out

bonus silly doodle

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hi i dont understand tumbles here chip

i am on the fence on whether i want to fight or kiss this man