cinnamon-phrog

[cinnamon-phrog]

I’m so sorry for all of this. I don’t really know how to explain it but I can completely understand where you’re coming from. I wish people weren’t like this, especially for a show that I share such a strong connection to. I usually keep my headcannons to myself since I don’t really engage in fandom as much as I just stalk from the sidelines, now I don’t know what I want to do. I think I’ve said this somewhere else but I wasn’t going to drop everything because of the AI reveal, although I’ll still admit fault for it, but this seems excessive. I know it’s more of the fandoms fault and less of the original media’s fault, but it’s still disappointing. I do 100% agree with you that Yellow isn’t a child (especially during the finale), although I don’t care how you see him, and I didn’t know how big of a deal it was to have that headcannon in the community. I hope you find some peace of mind and I’ll be here to support you if you need it. <3

It's alright, don't be sorry, it seems this kind of behaviour is everywhere, and i don't know why. And yeah ESPECIALLY for a show like this that's main reason for existence was creativity. And yet everyone, even the creators now, are disregarding that for fame and attention and more eyes than connection.

I'd love to hear your headcanons, I always enjoy others' perspectives on characters, especially when they clash with my own, I like to look in different angles. And maybe a fresh dhmis take would be good for me to read. Thank you for not caring how I see Yellow. And thank you for your support, you can come to me any time in return <3

[cinnamon-phrog]

I don't know if I still love the trio or not. I don't know if I can continue to love them. Even without giving the creators monetary support. I could just be being dramatic, I want to still love them, but do I need to. Will I just continue hurting. Do I love them just because they've been with me so long, because I felt like I had to. I don't know. I knew when to take breaks, I'd give my other f/o's time. I thought I was happy. But people outside of my control kept telling me I couldn't have them and now the main source of my comfort doesn't work anymore, and I'm scared to even look at them, even though all I want is to hold them close because I know at least Yellow would not stand for this.

[cinnamon-phrog]

Hey, I rblged your post about the promo material for the new DHMIS OC completion and I think we share the same level of disappointment. If you don’t mind me asking, since I saw it in a comment you made with your re blog, can I hear the headcannons that people didn’t like? I understand if not, but I promise I won’t judge you even if we disagree. If not, I understand completely and I hope you do good :>

Hello, I don’t mind at all. 

It’s a long story.

I discovered dhmis back in 2021, and I started a sideblog blog that started out as an incorrect quotes blog but turned into more of a meme-y blog. I went by auto-tuned-screeches-of-vexation. 

I felt, to gain friends, I had to cater to everyones’ needs instead of my own, making posts I didn’t like or care about because I knew others’ did. I made friends that I thought were good. 

I never saw Yellow as a child, I tried to, but I just. Couldn’t. I saw myself in him. And I started to get sincere feelings. I felt like there was something Wrong with me because of how hard the fandom pushed the fanon that he was a baby, which sounds stupid but I was 15 and stupid.

Everyone in the fandom at that time was so weird about his age, I didn’t mind people who saw him as a child. When I finally decided to be who I wanted instead of what i thought was expected of me, nobody seemed to mind.

But there was indeed a shift. There was an influx of posts going on about how annoying it is to see Yellow as an adult, that people only see him that way because of the Wakey Wakey pilot, that it’s not canon. I’d go into the notes to block the people who agree and find. Mutuals. People who followed me. People who had left supportive comments saying I was fine. 

After the tv show, I moved to posting selfshipping content on my main blog, this blog. You can still find the things I made, I don’t want to delete them. 

I started shipping with the whole trio polyamourously, because I saw them as the same or of similar ages, if they even had any. 

I don’t get near the attention I did on my now deleted sideblog, but I was happy because I was doing what I liked. 

But grown ass adults would make fun of me. People constantly make posts like ‘every time you draw this character like this, an angel loses it’s wings’ ‘I can’t stand when people do x fanon thing instead of x fanon thing’ ‘you’re not seeing these characters deep enough, how dare you like x character’ ‘you’re not allowed to like this character because I like them more’ ‘ew guys I just saw someone post x lolololol isn’t that gross’ ‘Becky and Jow would not want x fanon thing’ It was maddening. 

I’d try to talk to people, these people who say these things. And I lost my cool many times. I was called a villain, corny as fuck. I was told all these was all in my head. 

When I say I want people to draw what they want, create what they want, ship what they want, I exclude pedophilia and incest. Jerking off to porn of Yellow depcited as like a 4 year old sh/ota being raped by Roy or Red or whatever is just. Disgusting. That’s my limit.

I was stalked, harassed, gaslit, love bombed and nearly groomed by a p/roshipper who did just that, and so much more. Adults made me console THEM. A very then famous person asked me to warn THEIR friend because they were too scared, they were in their 20’s, I was 16. Spinelessness.

I see dhmis fands monthly vent in the fandom tag that they’re suicidal and alone. I have had to calm them all because nobody else would. I would be a comfort blanket. A therapist. Nobody asked me to, but I had trapped myself. 

I have seen people film themselves throwing up from how badly they’ve been treated. I have had friends leave me. 

But these popular people, they only care about what is popular. They only care about themselves. 

This is not a community. This is not a fandom. This is a sick, echo chamber cult and I want out. I want out. I want out. I have sobbed and cried and cut and bled and lost it all. But I’m the bad guy because I had a crush on an adult puppet. 

Even when the Motion Playground presentation from last year featured poly trio porn and a drag show that shipped them together that Becky and Joe backed and loved everybody made a joke of it. And yet the art of fluffybird right next to it was clarification of canon. Hypocrisy. Backhandedness. I wish I had more evidence, I wish I had said more, but I was vagueposted about and manipulated into thinking I was solely the bad person.

When all I wanted wasn’t to be superior, or popular, or make them feel like shit, I was just saying hey. Do you know how bad you’ve made me feel and the consequences of your actions. Can you take accountability and try to do better. Can you be truthful and transparent with me. 

But they never are out of pride.

And to save mine, I’m leaving.

You have no idea how much I loved them. Yellow, Red, and Duck. I was truly happy with them. My life for them bled into love for myself, love for others to be who they wanted to be. Because that’s what DHMIS was about. Being yourself, getting creative, because stifling it and stomping on others only leads to devastation. I had such a strong connection to them, they got me through the darkest points in my life. Their show inspired me to leave my abusive foster carer two years ago, I thought, just because they were trapped doesn’t mean I had to be. I had to speak up. I had to try. I had to got into the ‘real’ world, no matter how dark and gloomy, because I had this dumb idea that people were inherently good, even after all I suffered. 

And they've been taken away from me now. And have been taken away from me, again and again. Now I’m letting them go, no matter how I love them, or thought the creators would understand because they seemed to be open to all fans, this was the last straw. Seeing them not care about their creations in this way broke the camels’ back. 

Here’s all I’ve been able to gather. I wish I had more, but I was a frightened child. 

[cinnamon-phrog]

Hi phrog.

Im sorry, about everything thats going on / had been going on.

And ive had some good ol time to think and i wish to talk about the competition (but you can also ignore and delete this ask if its the wrong time or makes you anxious ofc, genuinly, its ok!)

My main hope is that it was a rush job and not entirely Becky and joes fault. (Key word. entirely here) im sure they wanted to do a competition! And they wanted to give out prizes and such! But my hope is the higher ups forced them to rush it due to the whole june 19th thing.

After all felt takes a long time to make, re getting a previous shot takes a while to do. And im sure all the felt props are in a storage somewhere and theyd have to dig them out. But they were rushed.

That does not exclude them however. Its an explaination but not a pass.

Its also what i hope is true. As like-

It doesnt make any sense?? They used ai for red guys family nightmare but that was when ai was new and even advertised to some degree to be a new tool for artists (and as uncanny lovers it was something new to play with) and joe made a meme a long time ago once.

But they obviously saw the danger and fuckery its caused. beacuse during the Q&A the robot! And you said the robot character. Making fun of ai and how it SUUUCKKKS. And just doesnt make any sense.

So why now? It doesnt match up ya know. Im just really hoping for an explaination

I still love dhmis and am in the fandom but this is. Just odd and im keeping a sharp eye on it.

I havent left the competition due to personal reasons but also i want to see what happens next beacuse that dicides the fate of alot of this.

Your warning has the dhmisnewfriend tag on it (?) So when they comb though it they might see it and talk about it.

Worst to best case senario

Worst: they deny it (💀) and or pick Ai art winners. (As ive sadly seen two)

EhhHhh: the winners are real artists and fans! But they dont mention the use of ai in the poster

Best!: they apologize and or give an explaination for the poster and pick the winners throughly!

Id also like to appologize on my part phroggy. Im sorry if my vent posts have made you uncomfortable in any way (my reasoning is i live in the US and no more anxiety meds..) BUT STILL i feel i need too.

My anxiety has changed the way i am acting irl and on here and i apologize deeply

I know you and i dont agree on everything but i think your wonderful and im sorry all this is happening.

I am sorry.

(And once again. If you dont want to respond to this in the slightest i get that. You are not the messanger frog!) (I have also unfollowed folks for you. As you said i was friends with some?.. i assure you im not. Me following an artist for memes is not a kinship we were not mutuals. But i have unfollowed a few)

I await your return to the fandom!

and respect you departure.

And i respect the fact you may not return also..

(Im going to log off for a while as you might have seen. And i know this is the sevear anxiety talking but i hope you dont hate me. And i hope you are at least ok today as you deserve to be better than ok.)

H Persy.

Don’t be sorry, you venting has nothing to do with my own mental state, don’t push down your feelings for the sake of mine. I know how awful it is to not have access to your medication and I’m so sorry you’ve been feeling this way and recent events haven't helped. I wish I had said something to comfort you but I didn’t want to somehow invalidate your feelings and giving hope just. Isn't my thing any more. I’ve lost hope myself and yet I don’t want my friends to, it’s confusing. Everything I hear about the US gets worse than the last. You have every right to be as upset as you want.  I don’t hate you at all, I’ve just been taking a break off tumblr for a while because of what’s happened. 

Your explanation makes sense but. On their website, didn’t they say DHMIS was self-funded? They made it, isn’t it all theirs? Sorry to be the sceptic here, I do hear you out and think it’s plausible. Props are hard to make and all in storage but they have their own show on file, surely. They didn't have to use that one specific image and warp it like that, even just writing would have done it. A red mitten glove n text would’ve done just fine. Sharpie. A whiteboard. A shitty powerpoint. 

I keep seeing people try to tell me ‘well they’ve used ai before, how come this is only now a no-no?’ because it was when ai was just starting out. When it wasn’t what it is now, a thing that takes. A thing that wrecks the environment with prompts taking so much water energy. 

That means so much to me. I’m sorry I’ve been so weird about other people in the community but I’ve been treated so. So bad. And I can't just up and speak up about it because I don’t have the proof, only my honesty. I have so many people blocked outright because I’ve seen them be two-faced and unkind, double standards. I loved a Yellow man and it was the end of the world, I’m the awful one. Their ‘content creators’ makes a terrible mistake and they refuse to admit what they did is wrong and bring up they used ai years ago when it was still very new. People can still like dhmis but please refrain from merchandise. There’s a post with the tv episodes on a google doc that I can find and reuploads are of the webseries are on youtube [one that compiles them all] Make your own merch. Create. Draw. Paint. Lift others’ up when no one else will. 

Ehhhhhh is most likely I think, but we won’t know until at least the end of the week when the competition ends. My worst fear is someone real will be chosen, and they’ll have to face their creation warped by ai somehow too. That’d be so devastating to see.

[cinnamon-phrog]

I'm Going to distance myself from DHMIS for a while. Here is why.

I don't know how I didn't notice sooner, but the latest picture promoting the dhmisnewfriend competition, promoting us to use creativity and art skills. But the picture itself looks odd.

Now I know the dhmis team have used ai in the past, back when it was primitive and nobody knew how bad it was environmentally or creatively. But to use it in this day, where that's very widely known, doesn't sit well with me, especially to promote a drawing competition.

Take a look. I'm afraid I couldn't find a better comparison picture.

Yellows' eyes are blended together, his right hand side button is all weird, same for the folds of his neck. The definition of Ducks' beak has been lost, his eyes are 2d and flat. Red looks like he's got no pupil.

The folds of the tablecloth are no more, instead all stiff.

The flowers on the ai version are squared, with five petals, whereas the original had six, and they were more rounded. The right side leaf is also missing.

In my excitement I didn't see it.

I was so happy to see everyones' ocs, but now I don't want anyone or me to win because who promotes creativity and then takes the lazy route. I understand how long it takes to make things out of felt, I and many fans would have waited patiently for years if need be instead of... this.

I still love the trio. I still love the show. But I will pull out of the competition and refrain from buying anything dhmis related, I cannot support this.

[cinnamon-phrog]

He used it back when no-one knew how bad it was, I've seen some people make that an excuse for why they should get a pass THIS time, but it doesn't make sense to me, since they obviously know how lazy ai is from their presentation last year.

I don't like how normalised ai has become and that dhmis gets a pass because nobody can admit what they've done is lazy and hypocritical. You can still want to enjoy them and understand this, I'm leaving because it was the last personal straw, [the fandom has never been kind to me because of headcanons- they make up rules all the time] but people want to be blind to it instead because yippieeeee content </3

I'm Going to distance myself from DHMIS for a while. Here is why.

I don't know how I didn't notice sooner, but the latest picture promoting the dhmisnewfriend competition, promoting us to use creativity and art skills. But the picture itself looks odd.

Now I know the dhmis team have used ai in the past, back when it was primitive and nobody knew how bad it was environmentally or creatively. But to use it in this day, where that's very widely known, doesn't sit well with me, especially to promote a drawing competition.

Take a look. I'm afraid I couldn't find a better comparison picture.

Yellows' eyes are blended together, his right hand side button is all weird, same for the folds of his neck. The definition of Ducks' beak has been lost, his eyes are 2d and flat. Red looks like he's got no pupil.

The folds of the tablecloth are no more, instead all stiff.

The flowers on the ai version are squared, with five petals, whereas the original had six, and they were more rounded. The right side leaf is also missing.

In my excitement I didn't see it.

I was so happy to see everyones' ocs, but now I don't want anyone or me to win because who promotes creativity and then takes the lazy route. I understand how long it takes to make things out of felt, I and many fans would have waited patiently for years if need be instead of... this.

I still love the trio. I still love the show. But I will pull out of the competition and refrain from buying anything dhmis related, I cannot support this.

[cinnamon-phrog]

I'm Going to distance myself from DHMIS for a while. Here is why.

I don't know how I didn't notice sooner, but the latest picture promoting the dhmisnewfriend competition, promoting us to use creativity and art skills. But the picture itself looks odd.

Now I know the dhmis team have used ai in the past, back when it was primitive and nobody knew how bad it was environmentally or creatively. But to use it in this day, where that's very widely known, doesn't sit well with me, especially to promote a drawing competition.

Take a look. I'm afraid I couldn't find a better comparison picture.

Yellows' eyes are blended together, his right hand side button is all weird, same for the folds of his neck. The definition of Ducks' beak has been lost, his eyes are 2d and flat. Red looks like he's got no pupil.

The folds of the tablecloth are no more, instead all stiff.

The flowers on the ai version are squared, with five petals, whereas the original had six, and they were more rounded. The right side leaf is also missing.

In my excitement I didn't see it.

I was so happy to see everyones' ocs, but now I don't want anyone or me to win because who promotes creativity and then takes the lazy route. I understand how long it takes to make things out of felt, I and many fans would have waited patiently for years if need be instead of... this.

I still love the trio. I still love the show. But I will pull out of the competition and refrain from buying anything dhmis related, I cannot support this.

[cinnamon-phrog]

Sean calling out Mr. “His smile never reaches his eyes” Beast, is my favourite genre!

[cinnamon-phrog]

I'm Going to distance myself from DHMIS for a while. Here is why.

I don't know how I didn't notice sooner, but the latest picture promoting the dhmisnewfriend competition, promoting us to use creativity and art skills. But the picture itself looks odd.

Now I know the dhmis team have used ai in the past, back when it was primitive and nobody knew how bad it was environmentally or creatively. But to use it in this day, where that's very widely known, doesn't sit well with me, especially to promote a drawing competition.

Take a look. I'm afraid I couldn't find a better comparison picture.

Yellows' eyes are blended together, his right hand side button is all weird, same for the folds of his neck. The definition of Ducks' beak has been lost, his eyes are 2d and flat. Red looks like he's got no pupil.

The folds of the tablecloth are no more, instead all stiff.

The flowers on the ai version are squared, with five petals, whereas the original had six, and they were more rounded. The right side leaf is also missing.

In my excitement I didn't see it.

I was so happy to see everyones' ocs, but now I don't want anyone or me to win because who promotes creativity and then takes the lazy route. I understand how long it takes to make things out of felt, I and many fans would have waited patiently for years if need be instead of... this.

I still love the trio. I still love the show. But I will pull out of the competition and refrain from buying anything dhmis related, I cannot support this.

[cinnamon-phrog]

This is important, please read and spread wherever you can.

[cinnamon-phrog]

I'm Going to distance myself from DHMIS for a while. Here is why.

I don't know how I didn't notice sooner, but the latest picture promoting the dhmisnewfriend competition, promoting us to use creativity and art skills. But the picture itself looks odd.

Now I know the dhmis team have used ai in the past, back when it was primitive and nobody knew how bad it was environmentally or creatively. But to use it in this day, where that's very widely known, doesn't sit well with me, especially to promote a drawing competition.

Take a look. I'm afraid I couldn't find a better comparison picture.

Yellows' eyes are blended together, his right hand side button is all weird, same for the folds of his neck. The definition of Ducks' beak has been lost, his eyes are 2d and flat. Red looks like he's got no pupil.

The folds of the tablecloth are no more, instead all stiff.

The flowers on the ai version are squared, with five petals, whereas the original had six, and they were more rounded. The right side leaf is also missing.

In my excitement I didn't see it.

I was so happy to see everyones' ocs, but now I don't want anyone or me to win because who promotes creativity and then takes the lazy route. I understand how long it takes to make things out of felt, I and many fans would have waited patiently for years if need be instead of... this.

I still love the trio. I still love the show. But I will pull out of the competition and refrain from buying anything dhmis related, I cannot support this.

[cinnamon-phrog]

[cinnamon-phrog]

In their Motion Playgrounds presentation they made last year they made a character who's soul purpose was making fun of ai. It's not like they didn't know any better. It may be just an enhancement but to use it to promote a competition where others get to use their art skills, failing to use your own to promote it, it's hypocritical.

I'm Going to distance myself from DHMIS for a while. Here is why.

I don't know how I didn't notice sooner, but the latest picture promoting the dhmisnewfriend competition, promoting us to use creativity and art skills. But the picture itself looks odd.

Now I know the dhmis team have used ai in the past, back when it was primitive and nobody knew how bad it was environmentally or creatively. But to use it in this day, where that's very widely known, doesn't sit well with me, especially to promote a drawing competition.

Take a look. I'm afraid I couldn't find a better comparison picture.

Yellows' eyes are blended together, his right hand side button is all weird, same for the folds of his neck. The definition of Ducks' beak has been lost, his eyes are 2d and flat. Red looks like he's got no pupil.

The folds of the tablecloth are no more, instead all stiff.

The flowers on the ai version are squared, with five petals, whereas the original had six, and they were more rounded. The right side leaf is also missing.

In my excitement I didn't see it.

I was so happy to see everyones' ocs, but now I don't want anyone or me to win because who promotes creativity and then takes the lazy route. I understand how long it takes to make things out of felt, I and many fans would have waited patiently for years if need be instead of... this.

I still love the trio. I still love the show. But I will pull out of the competition and refrain from buying anything dhmis related, I cannot support this.

[cinnamon-phrog]

I'm Going to distance myself from DHMIS for a while. Here is why.

I don't know how I didn't notice sooner, but the latest picture promoting the dhmisnewfriend competition, promoting us to use creativity and art skills. But the picture itself looks odd.

Now I know the dhmis team have used ai in the past, back when it was primitive and nobody knew how bad it was environmentally or creatively. But to use it in this day, where that's very widely known, doesn't sit well with me, especially to promote a drawing competition.

Take a look. I'm afraid I couldn't find a better comparison picture.

Yellows' eyes are blended together, his right hand side button is all weird, same for the folds of his neck. The definition of Ducks' beak has been lost, his eyes are 2d and flat. Red looks like he's got no pupil.

The folds of the tablecloth are no more, instead all stiff.

The flowers on the ai version are squared, with five petals, whereas the original had six, and they were more rounded. The right side leaf is also missing.

In my excitement I didn't see it.

I was so happy to see everyones' ocs, but now I don't want anyone or me to win because who promotes creativity and then takes the lazy route. I understand how long it takes to make things out of felt, I and many fans would have waited patiently for years if need be instead of... this.

I still love the trio. I still love the show. But I will pull out of the competition and refrain from buying anything dhmis related, I cannot support this.

[cinnamon-phrog]

im gonna analyze this cute fictional guy......with my mouth by putting my mouth on his mouth and exploring his characterization by Making out with him

[cinnamon-phrog]

Had a dream last night where there was a new member to DHMIS and he was a yellow duck, he kinda looked like if all the members had a kid together. He was weird though and kept trying to ask everyone if they wanted to have a gay threesome or smth and everytime they would look at him then just ignore it and go on with the episode😭 So ofc I drew him, it's shit but I can't rly remember what he looked like exactly.

[cinnamon-phrog]

gee! i sure do love this complex female character with COMPLEX thoughts and COMPLEX feelings and COMPLEX reasons for her actions. surely the fandom wont villainize her and make her into a irredeemable monster for doing something even slightly unkind! (male character has done something a 100x worse.) looks at social media oh! well surely they wont water down her character into a single trait and/or only examine her at surface level, misrepresenting her entire personality, motives, and values! looks at social media again oh.