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[colrell]

No hard feelings xd he's the best

I just wanted to randomly ask, what's your opinion on people who want to have mixed bodies without claiming to be intersex. Like, they aren't claiming being intersex or want to "transition" into being so, but they're preferred body is a mix of male and female (or even separate) body parts.

Just curious. Sorry if you've already answered this.

No different opinion on this than any other sort of transition. That being, it's good and people should do it.

Why do people interpret "you can't transition to intersex" as me taking a fat shit on nonbinary transitions or saying people can't do what they want with their own bodies. All I said was that intersex isn't something you can transition to. Labeling any medical transition as intersex is co-opting/misuse of the term. What body parts someone gets/removes via medical transition are completely irrelevant to this point.

[colrell]

That wasn't what I said. I don't think you're understanding my issue.

I just wanted to randomly ask, what's your opinion on people who want to have mixed bodies without claiming to be intersex. Like, they aren't claiming being intersex or want to "transition" into being so, but they're preferred body is a mix of male and female (or even separate) body parts.

Just curious. Sorry if you've already answered this.

No different opinion on this than any other sort of transition. That being, it's good and people should do it.

Why do people interpret "you can't transition to intersex" as me taking a fat shit on nonbinary transitions or saying people can't do what they want with their own bodies. All I said was that intersex isn't something you can transition to. Labeling any medical transition as intersex is co-opting/misuse of the term. What body parts someone gets/removes via medical transition are completely irrelevant to this point.

[colrell]

Ah, Alex explained it to me already pretty well. I'll have to sit on it for a second for it to settle right, but just wanted to say that pls if you can use the same argument for another thing that would be absoloutly unacceptable to say (look! It's all in the chromosomes! You can't change those🧍‍♀️) then it's probably not the best argument to use, which is why this while exchange happened c':

It's a much more nuanced thing than that is what I'm getting at, because if it was just the genitalia/chromosomes then^^ meanwhile it's not just that, which is where the entire doscourse of nonbinary vs intersex not being the same as the 'direct' trans types comes from.

But then comes the whole discrimination and general struggle into it and the issue becomes more complicated. I mean, y'all are literally mutilated at birth daily, and almost nobody seems to care— (disgusting btw.). Amongst other stuff— which, when you add this to the label, I will agree that yea, no matter how much a nonbiary person would like to get close to this 'in between', they probably shouldn't be doing it by taking on a label that includes all of the stuff that they simply cannot replicate.

Rake aside the fact that it shouldn't even be a thing, and actually, let's take the licence of every doctor who does that shit. Please.

Well. I hope I'm conveying my point well enough. You're just giving me arguments that are all about the physicality itself. If it was just that, then—

Because yeah, I understand now. it was conveyed pretty well to me by alex. It's just that this argumentation here is wacky. I hate it.

I just wanted to randomly ask, what's your opinion on people who want to have mixed bodies without claiming to be intersex. Like, they aren't claiming being intersex or want to "transition" into being so, but they're preferred body is a mix of male and female (or even separate) body parts.

Just curious. Sorry if you've already answered this.

No different opinion on this than any other sort of transition. That being, it's good and people should do it.

Why do people interpret "you can't transition to intersex" as me taking a fat shit on nonbinary transitions or saying people can't do what they want with their own bodies. All I said was that intersex isn't something you can transition to. Labeling any medical transition as intersex is co-opting/misuse of the term. What body parts someone gets/removes via medical transition are completely irrelevant to this point.

[colrell]

Professor to the rescue huh, I thought my brain was gonna overheat for a second there.

(I'm getting it. I just need to pinch my poor nose)

I just wanted to randomly ask, what's your opinion on people who want to have mixed bodies without claiming to be intersex. Like, they aren't claiming being intersex or want to "transition" into being so, but they're preferred body is a mix of male and female (or even separate) body parts.

Just curious. Sorry if you've already answered this.

No different opinion on this than any other sort of transition. That being, it's good and people should do it.

Why do people interpret "you can't transition to intersex" as me taking a fat shit on nonbinary transitions or saying people can't do what they want with their own bodies. All I said was that intersex isn't something you can transition to. Labeling any medical transition as intersex is co-opting/misuse of the term. What body parts someone gets/removes via medical transition are completely irrelevant to this point.

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Okay, geniouly asking because reading this just made me feel like this argumentation is literally the same as the one used in regards to your "regular" trans person by transphobes, and it makes me feel waaaay too uneasy not to point it out.

Because what do you mean 'you will never be x'?

That's the same as saying a trans woman will never be a woman.

Or a trans man will never be a trans man.

Because they weren't born this way?

And sure. Being nonbinary obviously doesn't necessarily = wanting to be a certain intersex type. But for some, it might be the ideal? The goal? What then? Are you then going to stand there, look at that person who has spent years attempting to get as close to their desired "in between" or whatever, and say that you still won't accept them? Even though they fit every criteria other than 'was born that way'?

I mean, sure. We use different terminology with nonbinary people vs ftm/mtf. But. How is this different? If someone's perfect body is the exact same as one that, which would otherwise be 100% considered intersex. How is this different?

(And yes I am aware that intersex isn't just the genitals. And i wouldn't consider myself intersex. Im not, I don't feel like I should be. Kinda. I guess. Gender is complicated. But some might? Brains are weird things)

I just wanted to randomly ask, what's your opinion on people who want to have mixed bodies without claiming to be intersex. Like, they aren't claiming being intersex or want to "transition" into being so, but they're preferred body is a mix of male and female (or even separate) body parts.

Just curious. Sorry if you've already answered this.

No different opinion on this than any other sort of transition. That being, it's good and people should do it.

Why do people interpret "you can't transition to intersex" as me taking a fat shit on nonbinary transitions or saying people can't do what they want with their own bodies. All I said was that intersex isn't something you can transition to. Labeling any medical transition as intersex is co-opting/misuse of the term. What body parts someone gets/removes via medical transition are completely irrelevant to this point.

[colrell]

i do think will graham is a good cook. he’s just not a fancy cook. he makes nice, homemade meals, that warm the soul. he feeds hannibal a lot, a lot more than he expects post fall, because hannibal probably becomes so enamored with will’s homey meals. they make him feel loved in a way other food hasn’t.

[colrell]

AND THEN IT DID

fiercely believe that zeller and price had bets on will and hannibal getting together

“he got married, jimmy”

“so? it could still happen. people get divorced”

“will got MARRIED and hannibal is IN PRISON what do you MEAN”

“IT COULD STILL HAPPEN”

[colrell]

I saw a comment on a post about intersex inclusion in pride that was something like.... "I don't think all intersex people consider themselves trans, but the ones who do are definitely welcome here ^^"

No, actually. All intersex people are welcome. You can call yourself queer because you are intersex, and not even have another reason. Because being intersex is fucking queer.

[colrell]

I'm constantly in flux between "Hannibal doesn't care about Molly. She is a nonentity to him, a placeholder that could never understand Will or make him happy despite being everything that Will claimed to want: a nuclear family," and "Hannibal obsessing over it, comparing them. What did she have, or do that swayed Will to choose her? He thinks about this intensely as he sees the pale line around Will's finger where a ring used to be. What meals did Molly make, and did they sit bland on Will's tongue or provide a simple comfort Hannibal neglected to see? Did she make him smile, laugh? Hannibal always thought jealously beneath him, but as always, Will inspires new feelings Hannibal has little to no idea what to do with."

[colrell]

A man with perfect tits can cannibalize me idgaf

[colrell]

Omg I didn't know i needed this but I

DID

and nobody dare take it from me.

It makes sense that his sneet snoot.

@dymme getting tagged because it's all her fault (affectionately)

[colrell]

Once again long live Freddie Lounds for giving us "murder husbands"

[colrell]

Yeaaaaa, and not only that one time, but it makes sense, doesn't it. Everybody else sees him as either pitiful creature, a monster, or a tool. Meanwhile Hannibal— even with all the shit he pulled, treats him like a person and just says stuff.

I think that little chuckle was Will going "wow you're ridiculous," but it was new and normal, and not one bit the same condescension that Will gets from literally everybody but Hannibal (and the dogs of course.) that he gradually started trusting him despite his prejudices against psychiatrists.

Hannibal doesn't treat Will like he's precious. He's polite and respectful (again. The whole 'let's frame Will Graham' thibg set aside since he didn't know it was happening)... I can see why it would be this weird, posh man that got Will to smile. Geniouly smile— and also viciously.

Plus, his relationship to his dogs is also so wholesome? He saves them, and he gives them love that he himself doesn't feel from anybody else (until Hannibal shows up). He created a family of strays of misfits just like him. Abandoned and overlooked, he took them in and washed them and fed them and cared for them. Gave then everything that was refused to him and they offered it in return—

As animals do.

Will Graham is a Hyena.

Now, please hear me out on this because I've been sitting on for a while. I love those misunderstood animals more than anything... and I love Will Graham with almost the same amount of veracity. So.

Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens | 1922 | dir. F.W. Murnau

Will is ostracised by society.

Hyenas, just like Will, have been rejected by humans and painted as monsters. Seen as simple, stupid scavengers who will do anything for a scrap of meat. I think we've all seen how they have been depicted in media such as The Lion King: dumb, cruel idiots whose only desire is to steal and destroy what other, more royal animals (lions: productive members of society) have built for themselves.

They are regarded as savages with no brains. Only capable of acting if under guidance of a firm fist of a leader and sometimes pitied by others... meanwhile, Hyenas are actually highly intelligent, social predators who hunt in groups and share their kills much more often than they scavenge. They remember faces and can identify friend from foe. They live in clans that get up to hundreds of members: but this fact goes unmentioned in most media.

Will isn't seen as somebody capable of caring for his own life because. Just like hyenas, he is treated as an outsider in his own home. Alan pitied him because she didn't think he could take care of himself. She saw him as a dependant and troubled man because he showed signs of being autistic. Jack treated him as a tool and lead him into destructions because he didn't think Will could make good decisions on his own and in his eyes, if Will were to be left to his own devised— he could stop being useful.

This image of hyenas— of Will — wasn't entirely undeserved, of course. They are, after all, a little bit weird. They look weird, act weird, and refuse to conform even when this refusal leads them to the outskirts of society... even before Will Grahams' encephalitis, he was as different. Everybody knew there was something 'other about him, which is experience shared by many people withing the queer and autistic-spectrum community. Some of us deliberately choose to mask because this is just a more comfortable way of existing day-to-day. We recognise that if we were to act as ourselves: the 'typicals might see it as an affront to themselves.

Others, however, take a different approach. They embrace this otherness as a badge of honour despite what others wish for them. Will Graham is one of those people, and just like Hyenas, he paid the price of it in ostricisment.

They reject judgement.

This brings us to how Hyenas are unapologetically themselves. Of course, an animal cannot be aware of what we as humans see them as, but in a way, they still are, and Will is much the same on that regard: doing his thing and refusing to follow others' ideas of himself.

Will Graham, for all the talk about how lost and confused he was before Hannibal, actually knew about the darkness within himself and he had accepted it.

It is very evident in the first episodes of the series, where he states this over and over again— others aren't allowed to judge. He is what he is. He is rude, he avoids eye contact, and he reconstruction murderers' minds and won't allow others to stand beside him while doing it because he won't take their judging glances for it.

He doesn't want to be psychoanalysed. Hannibal 'won't like him when he's psychoanalysed'. Nobody ever does because he won't let them change him. He doesn't want to change: he just wants to be left alone.

The reason for his fear during the first season wasn't his empathy. Will Graham knew what he was since the very beginning. He knew he's different. He knew of this dark side of himself, which craved to kill before encephalitis came along, and that is what made Hannibal so enamoured with the man.

I know that many people believe Hannibal to be the reason for why Will started to kill or fantasise about it... but he did it since before knowing Hannibal. The reason why Will was so petrified wasn't because he started seeing himself kill. It wasn't the fantasies or Hannibals manipulations that brought him to this state of hysteria because Will knew what he was already.

It was a lack of control, which brought him over the edge. Fear of losing composure, of killing and not knowing it. Not the act of killing itself. Until the sickness came for him, Will perhaps wasn't doing well... but he was content with how things were. He never wanted to be helped or changed. He merely wished to be accepted.

Will is a scavenger... and predator.

Yes, I know that we all see the agent as a fisherman— luring and waiting for prey to come to him, but that is not all that he does.

Hyenas are hunters first, which is another thing that media often gets wrong.

They hunt for their own food, and they do it successfully, collectively, and cruelly. Funfact: most of the videos featuring hyenas hanging around corpses, which are being eaten by lions, are actually hyena kills that were falsely attributed to their enemies.

Much in likeness to how Will fantasises about his own work, hyenas murder with beautiful personality. Their hunts are bloody, wild, and brutal. They are savage in how they kill, chasing the weak and biting them until the inevitable collapse. They don't wait for their victim to die. There is no need to.

But they can scavenge— and scavenge they do. It reminds me of how Will continues to eat Hannibals' own prey even after learning about what it is; How he waits for Chiyoh to kill the prisoner herself and creates art out of the corpse because his curiosity was more important than the act itself. How he was fine with Matthew doing his dirty work for him. How simple act of threatening Hannibal with a gun brings out a vicious smile... he liked the idea of having Hannibal at his mercy, of the psychiatrist not knowing if he will die tonight (being sure he shall).

There is a lot of cruelty within Will Graham, which he never attempted to hide. It was simply overlooked because of his desire for bringing justice that came alongside it.

Hyenas and Will are queer icons.

Not only for how gay his relashionship with Hannibal is.

Our fandom is full of trans and gender nonconforning people. Will is heavily autistic-coded, and transgender people can identify with him for a huge variety of reasons. We see his struggles, the way he suffers with his own identity in comparison to how others see him, and we empathise because it mirrors our own experiences in the world that does not and nefariously refuses to understand us.

Hyenas, as some of you may know (and others are learning about it in this post), spotted hyenas in particular, have been viewed as "double-sexed" since before the times of ancient Greece. The reason for this is that females of the species sport a genitalia that looks indistinguishably like the males'. For ages, humans believed them to be either all bigenital or constantly sex-changing animals. They are plenty of myths and stories about this fact.

They do not change their sex, of course. Either on a whim or based on necessity— female spotted hyenas are born, age and die as females just as the males remain just that for the entirety of their lives... however: this does not change how they were (and still are, for some) perceived.

Reasons for this state are multiple. For one, spotted hyenas are a matriarchal species. They are much bigger, stronger and dominant towards the males. They have thick skulls, powerful jaws and brute bodies. This uniqueness is ensured by a large amount of androgens their bodies produce during growing up: making them stronger... and also causing their (already naturally big) clitorises to grow to sizes comparable to a males'. They will even mount the males (and other females) at times as a form of domination tactic. This intersex-like feature is found in ALL female spotted hyenas.

In recent years (or decades), they have become one of the symbols for the transgender community. Indeed, hyenas are unique and beautiful gender-benders.

And just as members of the queer community, they are hated by the mainstream media— and loved by those who took the time necessary to understand them. Sounds awfully like Will, doesn't it.

Hyenas have been misinterpreted by us for centuries. And so is Will Graham by almost everybody in his community.

They are notoriously called ugly, much like Dolarhyde's claim of Will not being attractive. It is not true: Hyena's beauty is a matter of opinion. They have a distinct, heavy smell which they spread all over their territory, however people who live amongst them often like to remind sceptics that they actually do not smell any worse than their natural enemies: lions, do. They're claimed as ugly because humans don't understand them, because they're demonised and 'obviously', evil can not be beautiful— it must be ugly, stinky, disgusting...

Aren't those all epithet given to the people in the queer community? To Will, in a sense?

Hyenas— and Will, are victims of abuse.

There is a group of African people known as The Hyena Men, the Gadawan Kura. They group travels throughout Nigeria with their half-tamed hyenas and other animals and make them perform various tricks in order to make a living.

Which— here we go to the point:

Hyenas are social animals and just like dogs, can be socialised and trained. They actually make wonderful friends, if you have the resources and enough persistence within you to try. Those people, the Gadawan Kura, recognised it and use it to their gain. There has been a photographer who documented some of this relashionship between those hyenas and their men. It's a very fascinating and interesting tale to read about.

Until you learn that said hyenas weren't brought to this point with love but through abuse.

There is a very painful parallel to how Jack treats Will thought the whole story, and before it, and how the Gadawan Kura train their hyenas through beatings and scraps of food. They are rewarded for good behaviour... barely.

Doing tricks (profiling), brought along traveling (dragged around to crimescenes even when he doesn't want to), given rewards in food (told he's doing good work though said work is breaking him).

Abdullahi Mohammed with Gumu | Ogere-Remo | Nigeria | 2007

... and there is also the fact that Hyenas closest relatives are the meerkat and mongoose.

And we all know Hannibals' stance on that one.

[colrell]

Demanding Fifty shades of Dr. Lecter ft. Hannigram's Ladder BD$M😌

[colrell]

Those 3 years were...They were cold.

Will stared at the frozen river. It was beautiful, he supposed—but didn’t smile. Hannibal’s hands rose in his mind, their shape, their weight, the way they moved across his skin. They felt like this river—elegant, frigid, concealing something alive and unknowable beneath the surface. He smiled, then.

The sky dimmed further. Wind dragged through the trees, slipping under his collar. He knew he should go back in. Legs stiff from standing too long in snow, hands buried in his coat, nose cold and twitching like a cat’s. Still, he didn’t move.

“Come home,” Hannibal said—not aloud, not from the house. The voice pulsed low in Will’s ribs, as if Hannibal had built a residence under his sternum, planted there with intention and permanence.

“You’re here,” Will murmured. “You’re here and I’d rather stay here with you.”

His heart quieted, falling into rhythm with the dull thrum of winter around him. The wind, the snow, the silence. He inhaled. The cold stung on its way down.

“Will, come home,” Hannibal said again, clearer now, but still from within.

“I don’t want to leave you,” Will answered, breath hitching on the way out.

He saw him in the way sunlight skimmed across the ice, that brief, golden farewell. He saw him in the silent defiance of the river’s surface—how it held firm beneath the waning light, how it waited for the Moon to return and cool it back to stillness. He saw him in the fractures beneath the smooth surface.

“How could I not be where you are?” he asked himself, quietly, as if testing the truth of it.

“Will. Will?”

The light withdrew, shadows crawled across the white. Branches sharpened into claws on the ground.

“Honey?” Molly’s voice reached him before her hands did, warm and grounding as they settled on his shoulders. “Dinner’s ready.”

[colrell]

phenomenon ive only ever seen on tumblr that i think we should start killing people over actually

[colrell]

I don't think it works like that but you know what?

Yes.

animals dont know or care which pronouns you refer to them with so you could theoretically declare your dog trans if you wanted. most passerbys arent going to know or care. it's free. free transgender dog.