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forgive me father but i must confess i'm always a little bewildered by the way other languages are incorporated in conclave fics, particularly when it comes to terms of endearment and various phrases. i was raised bilingual although my english is more proficient in comparison to my native language, and i feel like it's rare that i will actively choose to insert the other language i speak into english conversations (though a merging of the two is common, re: chinglish and similar) so it's always a bit odd to me when it's written so that benitez almost excessively uses pet names and such in spanish, or when tedesco does the same in italian or exclusively says slurs in italian

my thinking is that this is probably due to the fact that i don't have a cultural background whose language uses the latin script and at least somewhat similar grammatical/structural/phonetic conventions as english so it makes sense that people from latam and europe would. more easily and smoothly be able to do this ? ? forgive me for my relatively loose knowledge of history and linguistics i'm only musing over this

(i do think at times it does just become shorthand for the author to loosely gesture at a character's cultural background without putting any significant thought into it but i'm not here to put my horses in that particular race lol)

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To that anon talking about Vincent's multilingual-ness: I have a headcanon that he at least knows some liturgy in Classical Syriac (Old Aramaic) from his time in Baghdad, given that most Iraqi churches use it as their liturgical language :)

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I have a confession! Thinking about Thomas in his late 20s riding Vincent in his 50s. Thomas calls him Holy Father while Vincent calls him a good girl. “You’re being such a good girl for your Father” etc priest kink but also daddy roleplay

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I don't feel comfortable mocking a space as intimate and spiritual as an actual confession, but I did want to share something with everyone. After watching Conclave (and reading the book!), I was so deeply moved by Vincent's piety and faith that it made me reconsider how I myself saw my Catholic upbringing. Despite feeling in my adolescence that it was a source of repression and confusion, especially because of my burgeoning romantic interest in women, I never truly felt disconnected from the Lord. I sort of put away my faith for a long time because of those feelings, but engaging with Conclave has opened the floodgates for me in terms of my spiritual connection with God. I really feel as though He speaks to me... and it's making me realize the error of my ways. I suppose what I am "confessing" is that, despite how silly it may sound, this movie has opened a door that I thought I had shut a long time ago... I realize now what a mistake that was, and recently I feel called to devote myself further to my faith, after being estranged for so long, that I have begun looking into convents in my area.

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I fw Aldo and Thomas so much I also have an inferiority complex, am neurotic, sad and depressed, and a perfectionist

I need them both (at the same time possibly) to do me

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Literally who caresssss about fandom drama we’ve all seen these takes before we’ve had these discussions before if you wanna make a point about racism or something like that go join a political movement or activism group like I did and make changes that way

Yes it’s important that everyone feel welcome in fandom yes we should be redpectful but these endless discussions are exhausting

Can we just enjoy this?

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OG oc annon here I'm so happy there are others out there with ocs especially the one who's up for an art trade 🥹🥹

I hope I can find you (both) and we can talk about our ocs!! My Conclave art usually has loads of history attached to it if that helps?

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Bless me Father, I've come back from a Conclave hiatus that almost lasted two (three?) months and it made me realise how much I missed those pathetic catholics. It feels like coming home. (And also imagine my despair at seeing that lawmalley is still a rarepair I had hopes)

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forgive me father but i must tell you all that it's actually highly unethical to even think about these fictional cardinals in any circumstances at all unless you're a middle-aged catholic and strictly think about them in god-honouring, politically ambiguous, chaste scenarios where they discuss the weather and psalms.

also please rec me benitesco fic recs where benitez tops thank you

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just putting this out there for those of yall who haven’t read the book, seriously do. its fantastic. as someone whos struggle to identify themes in movies that arent super spelled out (not against the art btw, just autistic) the book was an even better experience than the movie.

tldr; PLEASE read it, its short and absolutely packed to the brim with brilliance

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this is actually the funniest fandom i've been in. people under 30 shouldn't write fics, writing characters in relationships is unethical, writing yaoi smut set in real warzones is the same as publishing a novel referencing real events, etc etc... keep it up guys this is the most entertaining shit ever

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Most characters in Conclave are polyglots (know more than two languages)

Vincent is more likely than not to be an extreme example of this, a lot of the languages he could potentially know are not even in the same language family.

Languages (Movie) Vincent canonically knows:

Spanish (Original language)

English

Italian

The Church's Latin (Some, at least)

Possible:

Dari (Most spoken Language of Afghanistan)

Arabic (It was mentioned he worked in Baghdad)

From work in The Congo alone:

French

Kikongo

Lingala

Swahili

These speculations mostly come from statistics and information on the official recognized languages of the countries. This is not a comprehensive list either.

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Bless me, father. I don't like a lot of the bald/balding jokes. I don't think they're morally wrong or anything, they just make me sad bc I know that for a lot of people (men and women) that losing your hair can be a really harsh blow to your self-esteem and I don't want to reinforce that feeling for people.

Part of what I like about the conclave fandom is our challenging of cultural norms surrounding what is considered attractive, like age, face shape, body type, etc. I think it would be nice if this extended to hair loss as well!

No hate to anyone, though. :)

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Forgive me father for I have sinned, I broke my spaghetti for dinner, I'm not worthy of Tedesco's love but I will accept his punishment

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Ya know how that CEO thay was caught cheating at that Coldplay concert. Hear me out... a fic where Vincent and Thomas get caught holding hands or hugging or smth on the big screen. I have no idea what the plot would be or how to handle the curia's and the public's reaction, but please someone write this 🙏

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Father I think a bad habit of Vincent is that he loves to sometimes play hooky. He says he has a meeting with someone no one likes and go to the movies.

Even as Pope. So I just imagine he and Ray (also has this problem) just go to the movies together just in civilian clothes and this happens one a month. I feel like they get caught when Janusz is behind them to see Superman and that’s how they started to bring Janusz on their excursions.

All of them really like Superman and get coffee afterwards.

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Forgive me father for I have sinned. I can't stop thinking about Thomas and Vincent leaving hickies all over each other, but only underneath their robes so that they are the only ones who know that they are there. Vincent walks through the crowds waving and blessing people, but secretly he is covered with marks Thomas left behind.

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