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So you made an OC and named him after a Greek god who raped women constantly. I’m an atheist, I don’t condone the actions of any religion’s gods. But that’s besides the point.

And yes, the modern use of pansexuality as ‘attraction regardless of gender‘ had its roots in that pansexual LiveJournal page. That’s where it got ‘mainstream‘ attention as far as the internet goes. You can still access that page and see dozens of bisexuals changing their identity to pansexual because of the definition spread by that page. Now, it’s possible that there are factors that aren’t documented on the internet (I’ve heard older people talk about pamphlets being spread. and that the culture back then essentially said you needed to identify as pansexual if you wanted to signal to trans people that you were ‘safe’).

Saying it was a kink term first isn’t technically true, as the kink term has a different history and usage than the term used for the sexuality.

i love love loooove when people make up these arbitrary rules for bisexuality based on absolutely fucking nothing like "uh actually bisexual is when you care about looks" and "bisexuals have a preference while pansexuals don't!" me thinks you people need to go outside and like. have a face to face conversation with someone. i think that's the issue here.

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The god Pan is cool??? The serial rapist??? The one who cursed and possibly killed Echo by tearing her to pieces, depending on which myth you follow???

Also, the kink term has a separate history from the term for sexuality. The kink term was hijacked by a teenager in the early 2000s who defined it as "attraction to men, women, trans people, and gender nonconforming people." She posted the definition to a J-rock-themed LiveJournal, because she thought that bisexuals couldn't be attracted to androgynous people like the J-rockers.

i love love loooove when people make up these arbitrary rules for bisexuality based on absolutely fucking nothing like "uh actually bisexual is when you care about looks" and "bisexuals have a preference while pansexuals don't!" me thinks you people need to go outside and like. have a face to face conversation with someone. i think that's the issue here.

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kind of fucked up to reduce discussions of biphobia to “q*eer discourse” and how we moved past that in 2016 so people should just let it go. talking about how pansexuality has harmed real people in the bisexual community is not just dumb internet discourse. it’s perpetuated endless biphobia and led to a false definition of bisexuality while pan people steal the real definition for themselves. when bisexuals speak up about how pansexuality is doing real harm we’re not being mean because we think pan people don’t belong in the lgbt community and they should be kicked out (they do belong, just under the bi label). this isn’t about exclusionism. we’re talking about how the mainstream perception in media and real life has led to a fundamental misunderstanding of bisexuality and set us back by years, if not decades, after all the work historical activists have done to end stereotypes about bisexual people. pansexuality has perpetuated misconceptions about us that non-bi people ignore even when we correct them because apparently, everyone is allowed to define bisexuality their own way except for bisexuals.

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because they convince themselves that bi means something like ‘attraction to TWO genders’ or ‘has a gender preference’ etc. they’re not gonna stop being biphobic just because one of their ideas gets debunked unfortunately (even though all of their ideas are debunkable)

Yeah it’s honestly the biphobia.

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Check the tags for some instant pain

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“Bi means 2. Lesbian can only refer to people from the island of Lesbos, btw. Also, if you’re gay, then you’re happy.“ 🤡

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How is this any different from bisexuality? Especially since bisexuality has been defined with almost these exact same words since the 70s?

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Once again, non-bisexuals attempt to exclude trans people from bisexuality.

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The AIDS Project Newsletter, 1988

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Pansexual = believing monosexuals don’t exist

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Where do I even start with this? Is it the sexism that implies that men are somehow limiting a woman’s sexuality if she doesn’t use the pansexual label? Or is it the ignoring the political movement behind bisexuality that is already striving for all of these things, and replacing it arbitrarily with another term after  asserting that bisexuality doesn’t accept trans people?

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you and @femmebisexuelle should collab on some of the wackier ones for her pansexuality definition google doc lol. Definitely keep the sources on these if you can!

(link to the google doc if you haven't seen it yet: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pb5DQ4FY4dOx03TtQUk2R1UzbcDeFOeh0jIEcG4F7k0/edit)

O.O I'll take a look at it!

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