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You know you’re my favourite.

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I saw tom said jaspenor definitely got their happy ending in his farewell post, did max or anyone say how they thought things ended for robert or rillow?

Tbh I haven’t really looked for it, but I don’t think so? Genevieve Gaunt did give a shout to rillow on her instagram post about the show's cancellation (x), but as far as I know, that's it. But imo, the show is over, rillow is happily married and it doesn't matter what people say. 

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Any news about season five?

The show has been cancelled, nonnie. Lionsgate, which co-produces the series, is said to be currently shopping the show to other outlets in hopes of finding a new home (x), but tbh, no news about that have been released as of now and I find it extremely unlikely.

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Robert Henstridge in season 4 of The Royals

You weren’t expecting that move, were you, Father? You were wrong about me – admit it. I’m so much more than you ever thought I could be.

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# yes go follow your hubby

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I'm finding it really hard to like Alexandra Park since her interview where she stated that Robert and Willow were weak, evil characters and that Helena, Liam and Eleanor were the heart of the show. Part of me hopes she was misquoted but eh. Maybe it's because it appears as though they have a good friendship outside of the show that made me disappointed with AP.

I feel you. I really don't understand where she was coming from either, she should've been able, as an actress, to give a more unbiased opinion instead of just saying the same things as her character. I wonder if, while prepping for the season, at the table reads and what not, this sentiment was also voiced by the writers/directors/producers or if it's something she came up on her own? Idk, it's just so strange. Anyway, at least AP doesn't influence the direction of the show, so whatever she said, it's not the direction of the next season if there's one.

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i was worried about you. when you left, when you were out there, i just wanted you to come back. to the palace, to your family and… to me.

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first meeting to husband and wife

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I know that this may sound superficial. But, did you notice how Willow used to look more beautiful in season 3? In season 4 they cut her hair and her clothes were not that beautiful. Why do you think they made her like that? I feel like they changed her in season 4.

I don’t think it’s superficial, dear anon. It's something that bothered a lot of people, including me. I'm not exaggerating when I say that she seems like a completely different person from one season to the other. The hair changed, the clothes, the confidence she used to have, her ability to interact with people... They wanted to create this cinderella love story between Willow and Robert, to turn her into some "ordinary girl" who, by being "sweet and kind", conquered the devious king's heart. Which is...fine, for those who like that narrative. But in the process, they erased Willow, her personality and her history completely. Maybe we didn't know much about her before s04, but what we knew is completely different from what we got afterwards. And physically, she was turned into what the writers expected to be "the opposite of Kathryn" and that includes being ugly and boring whereas Kathryn is beautiful and sexy. No offense, but even her wedding dress is not very nice. But that's all my opinion, and I know it's not very popular. I preferred Willow during s02/03 and the only reason I cared at all for her during s04 is Robert. 

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So I think the main reason there was less sexual tension between Robert & Willow this season is because of the Cassandra plot. Cass exudes sexuality & Robert was clearly a lil interested when they met. The writers wanted to trick us, like they LOVE to, & make us think R was going to cheat on/betray Willow with Cass (it worked. loads of social media comments said he'd take her as a mistress). Rillow needed to be more innocent to sell that trick & to show R was into W for the right reasons, imo.

That's also true. If it had been more explicit to the audience that Robert was also physically interested in Willow, then there would be no surprise when he turned Cassandra down. 

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i wonder if maybe willobert wasn't too sexy because they had to build the relationship enough in 1 season to have a wedding and wanted to focus on the emotion side more than physical so the audience would know it was real & believable.

That's also something to consider. 

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1. OK this might sound weird but since anon mentioned it & I've thought about it too, I have a couple theories on the lack of passion for Rillow that are, like you said, behind the scenes reasons. Last year post-finale Royal Hangover, Liz said she saw Max use tongue in a scene with Kathryn, and Max was super adamant/uncomfortable, denying it like 3x. He's married and is probably more conservative about that than other actors. Maybe moreso after that interview.

2. Second, GG has very full lips (and Max doesn't) so if rillow had a very deep kiss, there would be more makeup smearing & more touch ups needed between takes. Logistically, it saves time to have softer kisses. Just my GUESSES. But I also agree they're suppose to be more pure, ugh. Gimme steam!

No offense, but these are very lousy reasons. If n. 01 is true, it's completely unprofessional on Max's part. If it's n. 02, that just means they are really cheap. Though it's not impossible when it comes to Gen, since they have been cheap with everything else that concerns her. Still, I stand by my reasoning that it has been a decision made by the producers/directors. If they had said, "longer, deeper kisses", that's what we'd have gotten. Instead, they probably went for "soft, romantic" and that's what we got. 

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I love Willow and Robert. But, sometimes I feel that in their relationship there is no passion. Their love scenes are kind of boring. The way he kisses Willow is so different if you compared it when he kissed Kathryn. What do you think?

Like on most cases where a couple has chemistry but kisses badly, I think this is due to an executive decision from the part of the producers. I don't know if it's because they wanted Robert and Willow to have some kind of Pure Love™ or if it's just because they don't consider Genevieve sexy enough, but they made a conscious decision to keep PG between Robert and Willow. It's not just about their kisses, but their s03 interactions are flirtatious, have sexual tension, and that was gone throughout most of s04. I don't think it's Max or Gen's fault, I think they were specifically instructed to behave like this. 

On their defense, though, I just want to stress that they don't have that many love scenes? Actually, I think the only one which is indeed a love scene is when they are in bed and have that 0.2 seconds kiss - and they did fine on it, it wasn't passionless. Besides that, we have their first kiss - which is understandably tentative and hesitant, I don't judge first kisses -, then their kiss to the press and on the wedding, which are both in public? So it's normal that they weren't that passionate. 

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I think you could reason helena doesn't know about the plan to shoot robert if things go south. All she knows is jasper said he could contain robert. Boone/guns were jasper's own backup plans and he didnt even really tell liam the specifics. It's naive to think liam didnt figure it out, len knows jasper had a gun, but, eh, helena might not have have a clue. Thats what i tell myself anyway

It seems far-fetched to me, but sure, I guess it's possible. 

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Robert was Helena's favorite kid. So, I have the idea that even though it might seem that she supported the coup, she actually is with Robert and she is just pretending. Has this thought crossed your mind or is it just me?

It has crossed my mind, more than once. But I don't see any evidence supporting that theory. They were planning not only to dethrone Robert, but also, shoot and kill him if necessary. If Willow had said no, and their plan proceeded, Robert would be humiliated in public, dethroned and possibly killed. How could Helena control any of those outcomes? She couldn't.

The only way it would make sense is if she knew Willow would say yes/never go through with it, so she was there gathering information and discovering as much as she could about the coup for Robert. But, if Willow only made up her mind at the church, then there's no way this could've happened.

I'm very disappointed at Helena tbh. Hers and Robert's relationship has always been my favorite and I can't believe she would put his life in danger so carelessly, the same woman who said that she wouldn't be able to live if she lost him again, but I don't see how she could be by his side after the finale.

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I reeeeeally need more Robert backstory. Like what was he like as a teen? During his uni years? Did he have any serious girlfriends before kathryn? Was he already enlisted in the RAF before Simon told him he was disbanding the monarchy, or did he do it after to prove himself? We truly know very little. Le sigh.

It's true that we know very little. Out of these questions, the only one I have a firm headcanon about is the RAF one. Because most (all?) male members of the British Royal family have served in the army, so I'm assuming that, as the next ruler, Robert didn't have a choice on the matter, he had to enlist, it wasn't something he did out of his own free will just to prove something to Simon. Added to that, Robert is a traditionalist. He would totally go into the army because it was expected of him. He isn't like Liam (lol). 

I also think it wasn't the first time, that he had already been in the army for a while when the accident happened - though that's more a personal theory without much basis on the show, I guess just because Max is older and looks experienced? But then, if he had just enlisted, he also wouldn't be flying solo? So, that could prove he already had some experience beforehand?

And, imo, he didn't have many serious girlfriends before Kathryn. Probably some proper girlfriends with the right pedigree? But I have a feeling nothing lasted too long and no one had been really important before Kay. Idk, it's just how he reacts to the whole Liam/Kathryn thing that makes me think no one had been as important as she was.  

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What do you think will happen to Katherine? And why is luicius back?

I have no idea. I don't want her to die (yet) because she is pregnant, so maybe keep her kidnapped until she pops then dies of labor complications? lol About Lucius, I have two theories (a) Helena called him and he is working for her or (b) he is working to destroy the royal family. But it's really difficult to guess what they were planning when they shot these scenes and in what direction they would go now, in case there's another season.