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I thought I’d find John Robins on Richard Hammond’s podcast so cringy but actually it turns out there’s a reason RH is a successful presenter.

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Maaaaybe spoilers for Taskmaster S19

So cookdandbombd think Jason Mantzoukas might be on the next series.

How Did This Get Made is one of my fav podcasts and Jason did actually mention Taskmaster in one the chat eps he does with Paul a while ago (I think he said just he’s been watching it and how great it is). He’s also spoken in the past about watching James Acaster’s specials and other UK comedy shows so I think it makes sense for him to be on it.

I also love him so am thrilled if he is on it.

I’ve always been too lazy to make the post i have in my brain about Jason being the American Tim Key, but they have the same chaotic / pseudo-aggressive vibe.

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22 AUGUST 1969.

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Why is the default version of soy stuff the kind with sugar in it? It makes it taste so nasty.

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From a 2014 Tim Key column in The Independent... The Colonel is John Kearns, and of course I know Nish, but anyone want a go at deciphering the rest of the nicknames? (I am assuming some/ most/ all are comedians...)

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All good children's fiction says you are going to have to shoulder responsibility even if you don't want it.

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Just listened to all bar luke. Everything abt it is so sad imo

Yep v tragic but isn’t it great? I genuinely think it’s some of his best writing.

Spoilers below cut

Love the happy ending in the Xmas special though, and the gf in the end being the only other voice we ever hear in the series is perfect.

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I watched How I Met Your Mother the first time round so I’m aware of its many flaws.

But having just rewatched the whole thing again: One of those flaws is Marshall not paying up to Lily until the day of Ted and Tracy’s wedding. Should have been about 6 years earlier.

Another weird bit of writing is a moment later where Lily talks about Ted’s emotional endurance and ‘it was a long difficult road, thank god we finally got here’ for Tracy to then die 3 years(?) later in the next 30 seconds. That does not fit the theme of those words.

Also Tracy having no friends at the wedding is a problem. Why would Lily be her maid of honour???

And obviously everyone knows and hates the emotional whiplash of dead Tracy - showing their (perfect) meeting - present day sad dad Ted saying ‘and that kids is how I met your mother’ - French horn Robin.

I’d have been fine with them going for the dark dark ending of them meeting at the train station and Ted saying ‘and that kids is how I met your mother’ for the tear your heart apart angst factor. Although it makes a rewatch really depressing when from about series 5 or 6 onwards Ted feels so lonely a lot of the time.

I even quite like Ted and Robin as a couple and the theme of things coming back together. Of course they executed the concept badly in the series with the Robin-Barney taking up way more seasons than Robin-Ted. But I think that’s due to the writers needing to change the emphasis of the show due to Barney’s popularity as a character.

I mean obviously don’t do it right after killing off Tracy and showing their meeting. You can’t do the whiplash in the last 5 mins. At the very least that cut scene with Ted and Robin with the restaurant would have helped. I also sort of wish they’d kept the scene or image from Tracy’s funeral which apparently existed. If they were going to bring them back together it either needed to have been dealt with at the start of season or Ted-Tracy needed to be wrapped up an ep earlier (but the whole series should have ended with Tee meeting the mother).

I just also can’t get over how much the last season is such a thematic mess. 22 episodes on the wedding and I’m sure the writing logic was that it’s where Ted and Tracy met (although the out-of-universe reason has got to be that they couldn’t move the series forward in time any further without Ted meeting the mother because the kids would need to be born soon). But it meant so much emphasis was put on the wedding and if they were going to do that why not at least properly foreshadow the reasons Robin and Barney wouldn’t actually work. I mean Robin was unsure pre-wedding but they broke up because their lives didn’t work with Robin’s job.

Although I think if you look at the Robin-Barney relationship was always a mess - it’s just they spent a lot of eps in the series separate pining for each other. But the first time round their relationship made each other miserable. Then each separately was into the other. And then Barney sociopathically proposed while they weren’t even dating (and hadn’t dated since they’d been miserable the first time round if I remember correctly). So actually it does make sense Robin and Barney didn’t work. It’s just spending 22 eps on them working out their problems pre-wedding really changed the emphasis.

I also feel like they came up with the concept of Ted needing to let Robin go at some point in the later series when this hasn’t been an issue before.

Also Lily and Marshall were annoying by the end. I can see why Jason Segel wanted out - after they got married their storylines were Marshall switching between Corporate and Environmental Law over and over again, moving house issues, and Lily’s pregnancy. There must have been more but I really can’t remember any of it.

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I just re-listened to Episode 50 of Elis James and John Robins on Radio X, recorded in January 2015.

The phone-in topic was things you’ve fluked or managed to pull off which weren’t seen or caught on camera.

About 46 mins in Elis read out one from someone who said they’d managed to throw a teabag across the room and into the cup.

Then Elis said throwing a teabag is hard and John says it’s not a thing and they spoke about it for a mo.

So anyway Alex Horne definitely listened to this episode and nicked this idea for Series 1 of Taskmaster which was on tv 6 months later.

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Just waxing lyrical about your last paragraph in the last Ask answer on here which I agree with a lot . This weekend has been bad but even worse knowing for a fact that Brand isn’t the tip of the proverbial iceberg and a lot of them deliberately build wholesome images to duck being held accountable

Sorry to never have replied to this ask.

I think I’d said I hate the idea that I’m unknowingly supporting abusers, which is obviously still true.

I listen to All Killa No Filla podcast and from that I really thought a comedy Me Too expose was going to happen.

I suppose these things take time - the RB doc / article was a long time in the making and was obviously watertight from a legal pov, so maybe a wider exposition is to come once the legals are sorted.

I guess the Hollywood Me Too was hampered by the huge levels of money, power and pr involved. The UK comedy scene is on such a lower level - with fairly minimal links to the USA - that it seems like a Me Too movement would be effective. Although our libel laws are on the side of the accused, so I hope for more RB-type investigative journalism.

Until then - I suppose going by who women in the industry are friends with and seem to feel comfortable working with at least gives an indication of which men at least aren’t widely known as being awful. Not a foolproof method - and you’re right about image building - and of course women in the industry don’t and can’t be expected to know all of the people who are awful - but at least it rules out the obvious RBs and DWs.

I do think it seems significant that RB was basically on the fringe of the UK comedy scene in recent years, although I don’t know if that’s because people were unwilling to work with him, he thought he was beyond it after his time in Hollywood or if it was because he’d gone down the conspiracy nut route.

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The Invisible Dot

Some articles about The Invisible Dot.

https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/invisible-dot-closes-stewart-lee-pays-tribute-to-king-s-3763224

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2016/nov/02/the-invisible-dot-comedy-venue-kings-cross-london-closure

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/features/the-invisible-dot-how-has-one-of-the-country-s-smallest-comedy-venues-become-an-industry-powerhouse-8652766.html

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2013/may/27/invisible-dot-hand-up-standup

https://londonist.com/2013/04/off-kilter-interesting-thoughtful-comedy-from-invisible-dot

http://exeuntmagazine.com/features/the-invisible-dot/

https://www.fest-mag.com/edinburgh/archive/joining-the-dot

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Tim on Comedy Shows as himself

The Bubble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GNQZjtZL4s

School of Hard Sums (2013): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmjpGNlVvM

Richard Bacon’s show

Cats does Countdown (2 appearances)

Buzzcocks (one appearance)

Mark Watson’s Radio Shows

Radio 4 with Bridget Christie where he plays no more answers

With Alex and Roisin Conaughty on 24 Hour Panel People

Lock Inn Pub Quiz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NA_HNG_PaY&t=76s

Taskmaster

We Need Answers

No More Women

No More Jockeys

Mark Watson’s Comedy Marathon: https://www.twitch.tv/collections/1GZHiRb6hxWkiA

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Radio shows written by Tim (inc co-written)

Pub Show with John Kearns

Late Night Poetry Programme + xmas

From Fact to Fiction June 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcVvgWkZ6TE

Cowards

All Bar Luke

Kharms doc *

Gogol’s Overcoat*

Easy USSR

Sunday Afternoon at Home with Tim Key: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03sb8b0; Clip: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01q84ln

First lines in novels doc

Milk Round on Radio 1

Concrete Cow??? He’s credited as a writer on an ep but this was 2002?

*these are both excellent

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Tim doing acting (including audio only)

Radio

Party

[Johnny Sweet’s radio show]

Funny in Four - Unprotected by Simon Rich: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p03xscd9

Podcasts

London Pub Reviews

Short Stories

Marry Me: 

Blue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3xEVkOQe_8

Mistakes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24zjSGCaCLM

League: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXQz4_967Hc

TV shorts

Alan Patridge Red Nose Day 2019

Alan Patridge Red Nose Day 2011: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anddn_DbOK8 AND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmywrDBW3Us

The Dog Thrower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN8lbDU2CsQ (rubbish ending tho)

Internet shorts

Awkward Coffee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koz_U2T-F5M&t=41s

Human Rights in Two Minutes (animation): https://vimeo.com/136729032

I Decided to Leave (animation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlHZMzND4v4&list=PLYuILPWZo7KObT6pNgoaj7394ziaaAxCK

Two Films About Loneliness (animation): https://vimeo.com/165049949

[talk radio]

Theatre

Trailer for Joseph K: https://vimeo.com/17216943

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Illicit Key clips

Clip from 2015: https://www.facebook.com/oli.lyons.5/videos/10153183013948634/

Clip from Christmas live show 2012: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEqsH96Fc28

Clip from Masterslut 2012: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlHeTWXab1Y