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Chapters: 1/6
Fandom: Derry Girls (TV)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: James Maguire/Erin Quinn, James Maguire/Reader, (...sort of - it's complicated...), Clare Devlin & James Maguire & Michelle Mallon & Orla McCool & Erin Quinn, Mary Quinn & Erin Quinn, (Will add other tags as relevant...)
Characters: Erin Quinn, Reader, James Maguire, Orla McCool, Michelle Mallon, Clare Devlin (Mentioned), Mary Quinn
Additional Tags: Crack Treated Seriously, Body Horror, Mental Link, Gaslighting, Meta Commentary, Fandom Commentary, Creature Feature, Horror Movie (Ft. The Usual ‘Derry Girls’ Comedy), Reader Fic (With a Twist!)
Summary: Saoirse came forward and placed a hand on her forehead without hesitation. The touch was gentle, warm and unwelcome from a total stranger. Erin jerked away from the unfamiliar hand, hissing out a curse under her breath at the pain inside her head. “Don’t… don’t touch me.”
“You truly are sick. Ach, poor critter...” Saoirse breathed softly, a pitying gaze locked on hers that made her feel downright judged.
Erin was sick and she knew it, sick in a way she’d never felt before. That didn’t mean she just forgot an entire cousin.
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A Stranger comes to Derry
#Derry Girls#Erin Quinn#James Maguire#James x Erin#James Maguire x Reader#(sort of...)#Jerin#Orla McCool#Michelle Mallon#Reader Insert#(... again sort of...)
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Writing my very specific genre Derry Girls fic is so fucking fun actually
#derry girls#james maguire#erin quinn#jerin#james x erin#michelle mallon#orla mccool#hard but fun#idk how to explain it but my friends like it so far
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So since I am writing James x Erin kids as characters and was curious about the existence of other J/E kids within the fandom, a while ago I found every fic on AO3 where they have children (or as many as possible, I mainly used the ship tag for this mini-project, and I haven’t the faintest if there’s fanfics anywhere else with fan children for the characters - I don’t think so…) and put them in a list to see if there was any reoccuring patters in the names for possible J/E children:
Maguire-Quinn Son:
- David Albert Maguire
- Finn James Gerry Maguire
- Jamie Joe Maguire
- Joseph Mackenzie Maguire (Mine)
- Lawrence Maguire
- Luke Maguire
- Patrick James Maguire
- Ryan Maguire
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Maguire-Quinn Daughter:
- Amy Catherine-Mary Maguire
- Aoife Maguire
- Bronagh Maguire
- Clara Saoirse Maguire
- Clare Orla Maguire
- Dolores Marie Maguire (Mine)
- Ellie Maguire
- Elizabeth Rose Maguire
- Emmaline Marie Maguire
- Francis Maguire
- Genevieve Róisín Maguire
- Grainne Maguire
- Hope Maguire
- Josephine Mollie Maguire
- Josephine Q. Maguire
- Katherine Michelle Maguire
- Mairéad Elise Maguire
- Mary Maguire
- Matilda Michelle Maguire (Mine)
- Michelle Maguire
- Michelle Maguire (Again, it was the first name in two completely seperate fanfictions)
- Nessa Maguire
- Rory Maguire
- Rosie Maguire
- Ruby Emerald Maguire
- Saoirse Joy Maguire
- Sunday Daisy Maguire
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First thing I noticed apart from the names was just how many more times they had girls so it seems everyone agrees they are girl parents cause most of the time, when they had a boy, he was accompanied with a sister or several sisters.
Second was how much people think they’d be into naming their children after family: around fifteen names on the list are in some way or another related to a relative, with the most reoccuring relatives being Joe and Michelle tied at four names.
Third was that several of these are meant to be Doctor Who references of some kind (sometimes anachronistic ones - imagine my eye twitching at the name Clara being a Doctor Who reference when the child was born in 2005 in the story she was in - and listen, you can swear she was named after Elizabeth Sladen but I won’t believe ‘em because it was said to be named after a character not actor.) - or at the very least, references to something from the show they liked: from my ‘verse Dolores (Dolly) was named for the Cranberries because their music is so tied to Derry Girls and her nickname is Dolly because of ‘Swear on Dolly’
Most common J/E kid initials are M and J again, cause of the names inspired by Joe and Michelle and the least occurring is a B, H, K, N and P only once.
Some fun facts about my names:
- Because they had given Matilda the middle name of Michelle and given Dolly the middle name of Marie, they kinda felt obligated to give Joseph an ‘M’ middle name to keep the flow and were so close to either naming him Joseph Martin Maguire or just Joseph M. Maguire (Kathy: Well well, not so easy to pick a middle name is it?) and last minute Erin picked the name Mackenzie. This was because I thought it would be fun if Matilda had an original first name/legacy middle name and Joseph had a legacy first name/original middle name.
- Erin was so sure she was having a boy during her first pregnancy (“There’s so many girls in our family and life that I expect a girl, which means he’s definitely a boy.”) that she insisted on picking the boy name and was so wrong so James ended up naming Matilda - not consciously after Matilda (the movie version) but a bit subconsciously - when he thinks of their little girl he sees someone smart, kind, empathetic and brave and that’s the name he naturally gravitated to. Erin was free to veto if she wanted to, but when she heard it, it felt right.
- She then called dibs on naming their next child regardless of gender so they had Dolores named by Erin and by the time they were surprised with Joseph, there was really only one name they were going to give him when they found out he was a boy because Joe had been dead for a bit at that point.
- Erin is the tiniest bit sore that everyone calls Dolores ‘Dolly’ because people think that’s her real name and assume she was named for Dolly Parton not Dolores O’Riordan and she has to keep explaining it. She will always use Dolores over Dolly despite James, Matilda, Mary and Gerry, the Girls and everyone else not ever doing the same - (and if she does use Dolly she is usually pissed and Dolly is aware of this - it’s the reverse of parents using full names when mad, when Erin says Dolly, Dolly knows she’s stepped in it.) Dolly doesn’t mind, she doesn’t hate the name Dolores or anything, she’s just always been Dolly.
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ANYWAY! Let me know your favorite names on the list, or your James x Erin children names! This was a labor of… love? I’ll say, instead of neurodivergent fixation.
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“You shouldn’t respond to RTD being misogynistic by claiming Steven Moffat is woke actually!”
For me it’s less about claiming Steven Moffat is “woke actually” because as much as I love his work, I don’t give a fuck if people like him or not - I’m not going to spend my days and nights crying because people don’t like the white male writer I have decided to enjoy. I just want the buzzword bullshit criticism to stop because ‘Steven Moffat is a misogynist’ like a good 95% of the time is a thought terminating phrase to dismiss a bunch of good acting from actresses, meaningful feminist storytelling and the rarity of someone within making media listening to criticism and trying to improve. Trust me there are valid criticisms to make. As a black queer woman myself I have a list. It just often ends up that most of the parroted critiques are these simple gross oversimplifications often used to prop up RTD and look how fucking well that turned out.
Just today I saw someone on TikTok claim Moffat shouldn’t come back because he ogles his actresses and films them with one hand and “only hired Karen cause he thought she was hot” and I just think that’s really fucking disrespectful to Karen Gillan to spread that out of context lie because it implies she only got her job so he can fuck her when in reality she’s a talented actress and those two are friends - largely because she likes how he wrote for women and appreciated nuanced work to sink her teeth into.
So - less ‘Moffat is a woke feminist king’ and more ‘I’m glad people might start to appreciate the era that I think had a lot of compelling feminist writing and the foundations for what Doctor Who should have been because their Rose-Colored glasses are starting to fall off.’
#doctor who#RTD#Steven Moffat#russell t davies#wild to me that the man who wrote Amy Pond / Clara Oswald / River Song / Missy Master / Bill Potts / etc.#still catches strays when he has barely written for this show since 2017#and since his successors have proven that they can’t even do foundational feminism as well as Moffat can#but it wouldn’t be the internet if we weren’t still dismissing seven years of peak Doctor Who#because Moffat bad#nevermind the peak work in writing his team did#his directors did#his actors did#the patronizing Karen Gillan shit will never not be sexist just because you frame it as hating a misogynist#because you’re dismissing her as a sex object when Moffat never actually did that#not Derry Girls#dw
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Derry Girls – 3.01: The Night Before
#now remember if you look close you can see Erin just yank James’ hand into hers#a totally normal and platonic thing to do and then also keep holding it#she was crushing hard here#also Michelle is so funny but that’s besides the point#LOOK AT ERIN’S HAND#LOOK AT IT *points a banana at you all* LOOK AT IT NOW
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does anybody live here?
#i think they’re cute#like okay my general view is that most of the Fuckhead Five don’t really ‘work’ romantically#the obvious exception of James and Erin aside#but if it was gonna be anyone else it likely would be these two just cause
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ngl i’ve never seen derry girls but i followed solely for your (correct) respectful comments on the moffat anti-genAI post
1.) It’s a great show if you check it out!
2.) This might be a Derry Girls blog but I will always have the time to make some correct comments for my other interests, thank ya!
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tbh I have the same problem in the bridgerton. fandom, I love Nicola, don't get me wrong, but it's absolute hell being a fan of anyone but pen/colin... even the other mains tags are overrun by their content. it seems to also happen in terms of official content as well, I know it's because Nicola's popular and gets engagement from fans but it feels like they don't even give other characters a chance.
Okay good to know this isn’t me just shouting into the void. Exactly, I cannot stress enough this isn’t about Nicola herself, she’s great and I will always support a bad bitch with based opinions especially as we both are in the Perfect Breasts community - that being said, I should not have to constantly put in the effort to block and mute tags to enjoy my fandom tag when instead these people can stop, look and think ‘Is this relevant to tag? Or is it just filling the tag with, admittedly very good looking spam?’
#derry girls#nicola coughlan#Bridgerton#(see I’m tagging this because it’s a Bridgerton fan - talking to me a Derry Girls fan - about Nicola Coughlan and the spam problem#this is relevant tagging wise#I guess it can’t be helped to a certain extent with Bridgerton because it’s her current show#and I’m sensitive to that#but again it gets to a POINT#and she certainly does not need to be every top post in the Derry Girls tag#it’s OVER#leave our little niche hidey hole alone! (unless it’s a Nicola in Derry Girls post we love those)
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I’m gonna say something and I need y’all to receive it in the kindest, least confrontational way possible…
I really wish the Derry Girls tag wasn’t so full of Nicola Coughlan.
#derry girls#HEAR ME OUT OKAY HEAR ME OUT#Is she beautiful? Absolutely - I too am a proud member of the perfect breasts community#we are kin in fact of the perfect breasts community#Is she based? ABSOLUTELY - Free Palestine and Trans Rights supporter here#so when I say this it is not meant to be attacking Nicola Coughlan#This is nothing against Nicola we love Nicola#BUT some of y’all’s posts are literally not even about Derry Girls and are actively tagged with Derry Girls#And IT GETS TO A POINT#I’m sure this is fine for the big Bridgerton fandom but Derry Girls is a small fandom#for a show that is over#and I literally just wanna scroll and know when the new posts#are actual fucking new posts about this show that I love#and not just LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL AND PERFECT NICOLA IS#Because yes she is both of those things objectively#she’s also ONLY 1/5th OF THE MAIN FUCKING CAST#AND IN THE NICEST WAY POSSIBLE I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH#PLEASE TAG PROPERLY IN THE FUTURE GOD#this probably won’t change anything but it’s 2am and I just. guys please there is like five straight posts of just Nicola#begging you to at least leave that shit in the Bridgerton tag unless it’s about Derry Girls like actually#nicola coughlan
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“I will not be taking that chance. We nearly got attacked by Travelers and then hitched a ride with someone who I’m still not entirely sure wasn’t a serial killer. Never mind the escaped polar bear,” Erin recalled, her gaze now very distant as she was transported to all the potential dangers their gang had faced before, colored a lot differently when she thought about the same happening to her Matilda.
Matilda blinked. She was always a bit confused whenever a bit of lore came out about her parents’ younger days. She could never quite decide if it all happened as her Ma remembered it so.
“… I can’t imagine that is an experience that would happen a second time Mammy,” she said. __________
Decided to let everyone read my very indulgent Derry Girls Future Fic that I wrote for @areseebee taking place in the Maybe Someday post-canon! I was going to just leave it in the drafts and then I drew art for the story and well… after that it was sort of inevitable I’d share it!
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“I will not be taking that chance. We nearly got attacked by Travelers and then hitched a ride with someone who I’m still not entirely sure wasn’t a serial killer. Never mind the escaped polar bear,” Erin recalled, her gaze now very distant as she was transported to all the potential dangers their gang had faced before, colored a lot differently when she thought about the same happening to her Matilda.
Matilda blinked. She was always a bit confused whenever a bit of lore came out about her parents' younger days. She could never quite decide if it all happened as her Ma remembered it so.
“… I can’t imagine that is an experience that would happen a second time Mammy,” she said. __________
Decided to let everyone read my very indulgent Derry Girls Future Fic that I wrote for @areseebee taking place in the Maybe Someday post-canon! I was going to just leave it in the drafts and then I drew art for the story and well... after that it was sort of inevitable I’d share it!
#derry girls#james maguire#erin quinn#orla mccool#michelle mallon#james x erin#original main character name tags too - fuck it:#Matilda Maguire#Jason Joyce#Cleo McCool#Elsie Sheffield
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Serious Hot Take:
James being the recipient of gay jokes makes complete sense and isn’t an odd duck in an otherwise well written series - it is necessary flavor text to show the casual homophobia that Clare would have grown up around that made her not want to come out in the first place and largely stops after the end of Season One because the characters make the conscious effort to be more thoughtful for Clare. To omit that would be a genuine loss to the story.
Casual Hot Take:
If you come away from the prom story thinking John Paul O’Reilly is a jerk you misunderstood Erin’s perspective as the objective one not the subjective and biased one she has because in reality he did nothing wrong.
Ship Hot Take(s):
- Erin fell first for James she just didn’t really have to maturity to realize that at the time while James fell harder and was more in a place for him to recognize the fact that he was falling for her.
- James/Orla is a fine ship in that there’s no reason to object to it in a fan basis and if it was written well, I could be interested at least if not overly invested however if you try to come to me and tell me they were more set up and realistic than James/Erin… I will just have to straight up assume you were not paying attention to the show.
Fanfic Hot Take(s):
- You ought to have some loyalty to the canon characterization: Clare should not be a wobble-lipped anxious little lesbian she should be a bit selfish and self-preserving and haughty. Clare lowkey is just a version of Jenny Joyce that had the benefit of being born into the friendship I could easily see a world where Geraldine had the misunderstanding and Janette was still in the group and Jenny swaps roles with Clare and it would be functionally similar (not the same obviously but the overachieving goody goody anxious snitch aura role could have still been filled somewhat).
Michelle needs to have a certain level of inherent vulnerability and bravado under her personality.
Orla shouldn’t be treated as stupid OR as unrealistically all knowing - both feel a bit inauthentic on different ends of the spectrum. Orla is smarter and more aware than they let on but they’re also a space case.
Erin isn’t functionally a villain who’s always going to sell out her friends (lowkey that’s Clare) and she shouldn’t be comedically bad at everything, she is going to be a writer in the future the foundations ARE there she’s pretentious and unpolished not inherently untalented.
James isn’t quiet, he’s just the quietest in the group (and there is a difference - he’s less quiet and more ‘talked over by much louder women’)
- More James/Erin canon romance content that shows Erin developing her crush, I feel once we got James confessing first, everyone wrote about James having feelings for Erin and I just want more Erin falling for James content.
- Specifically for next gens there aren’t much of those but the canon cast are so spirited and rich in character so when the kids are basically carbon copies or silent purse dogs it comes off as especially noticeable because I know these characters have too much personality for their kids to just be dull.
reblog this with your biggest derry girls hottake, don't hold back. GO!
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Listen if I were Mandy McAllister I would simply start hitting my dad with a hammer because what do you mean all she did was try to practice self-care with her own money and he spent the entire episode passive aggressively bitching about her to Georgie and Audrey - who had no issue with her making that purchase mind you - instead of having an adult conversation with her about feeling under appreciated and that she should make wise financial decisions?
What do you mean he had this smoke for Mandy - who is working now two jobs and raising a child on top of that - for spending HER OWN MONEY on a treat for herself in the first place when her brother Connor (and this is nothing against Connor) is also living at his parents house rent free and eating their food, without a job (and it’s shown he can work he just is never asked to so he doesn’t) or a small baby to care for and his treats come from Jim and Audrey’s money, not his own??
What do you mean he thinks that half of Mandy’s day is ‘playing with her kid’ and that he thinks he worked while his own wife just had it easy because she was ‘playing with the kids’??? What do you mean the man that disowned his daughter during her entire pregnancy (and yes that was Audrey’s decision but he sure went along with it and didn’t intervene…) NOW THINKS HIS DAUGHTER THAT HE HELPED DISOWN ISN’T DOING WORK RAISING HIS GRANDDAUGHTER.
Like, she actually should have crashed out harder and bought herself a second spa day.
#not derry girls#sometimes I watch sitcoms and get too into it#georgie and mandy's first marriage#mandy mcallister#Jim McAllister#georgie cooper#Connor McAllister#Audrey McAllister#good episode by the way love how he gets his#by having to experience a taste of parenthood on his own where he can’t rely on his wife’s labor#thank you for having a sympathetic ending for Mandy and more nuance for Jim and Audrey#cause as much as we all love Jim I fully understand why Audrey is so bossy#cause if she wasn’t his ass would not be helping nearly as much#if he thinks childcare is ‘playing with the kids all day’ he didn’t help meaningfully raise them#get HIS ASS! GET HIS ASS!!
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Today's government mandated femslash couple of the day is

Erin Quinn and Michelle Mallon!
#I don’t ship it nor do I think Erin is Michelle’s type but#I would be fascinated by a fic that explores the messiness of two queer girls who are not ready to unpack allat#and couch it in a bunch of platonic talk and psyche themselves out#esp with how that would then contextualize Michelle’s betrayal at James/Erin (Erin being bi in this scenario)#because not only does it feel like incest and not only would Erin - in her eyes - be bad for James#and not only would it be a risk to lose her lifelong friendships#but also she’s struggling with feeling like Erin didn’t take it as seriously as she did#(which unfortunately I do think would be the case tbh)#and it’s less a ship story and more a messy coming of age queer narrative#where Michelle ends up coming out but there’s really no chance for her and Erin#not that I think either of them want it post Donegal#Erin cause she actually has serious feelings for James#and Michelle because - well - because Erin has serious feelings for James and she resents that#idk I’m trying to make this appeal to me and the only way it does is playing up what a messy ass dynamic they’d have lol#Michelle x Erin#I maintain Erin wouldn’t come out or even realize she had to until#she and James have already gotten married and then it clicks “oh wait my husband is bi and I am bi too SHIT he kissed men before he’s more -#bi than me QUICK JAMES LET ME KISS WOMEN#but this works too I guess - denial about how she fucked up with Michelle pushes her back in
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(and i’ve been meaning to tell you) i think your house is haunted (a hunger games au)
Her daughter is no snowflake. Not sharp or cold. She is a flower, a little bird, something sweet. Alma Silver will never feel the slice of her father’s smile. (Or - Lucy Gray was pregnant when she left Snow in the woods. Her daughter has a role to play in the games to come.)
Entire fic | Chapter One
(This is wholly based on my fiancee's favourite pet crack theory of President Coin being Snow and Lucy Gray's daughter. We are now obsessed. There are family trees. I can't wait to write more. I hope other people are invested too!)
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someday | chapter 9
Next April’s the 10th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement and I want to do a short documentary about Northern Ireland. Nothing huge, just a retrospective over the past 10 years with a personal angle. And I want you to write the script. _ Eight years after an ill-fated summer romance, 27-year-old James and Erin make a film. derry girls | james/erin | future fic | chapter 9/11 | rated T |read on ao3|
#sigh SHE’S DONE IT AGAIN BOYS#I mean I knew that I read it before but like like yk#god reading it in the actual AO3 style hits different#cause now other people can see what I’ve been obsessive over for the whole process#one of my best friends being one of my favorite writers (not just of fic in general) is something that can be so important#nourishment of the soul#PLUS THEY’RE FINALLY GETTING THEIR SHIT TOGETHER#delightful#I love these idiots so much#like they’re so important to me#they’re gonna get married and have a whole life together
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Can I ask why Claire and Michelle don’t have any kids? It seems like it would be easier to have them have kids
Simply because I don’t think they’d want kids. Or, rather, I don’t think Clare would want to have children or be a parent. I think it’s important that not every character has the same cut-and-paste future. In fact it’s a pet peeve of mine in this particular situation especially that characters so interesting and varied would be expected to follow the same path (get married, be in a coupling, have kids, live that domestic life.) so the gang exist on a spectrum in that regard. Clare and Faye don’t want children, Faye would have sucked it up and given Clare kids if she wanted ‘em but the idea is unpleasant and scary to Clare in all regards and seeing James/Erin, Orla and Michelle be parents doesn’t really ever make it easier for her to imagine herself in that role.
Michelle is fine with the idea of being a parent but she got it out with of her system with her boyfriend Rafael’s daughter Sienna, she got to skip pregnancy and the baby stage, and she just really loves that kid. I suppose she and Rafael could have a kid however @areseebee and I kind of are both on the same page on the fact that Michelle and Rafael feel their family with Sienna is complete. If they did have a pregnancy scare they might have kept their kid but I also think there’s an equal chance Michelle might have decided that she didn’t want to carry a kid to term, I guess it just depends what her circumstances would be but they have (almost) never had to worry about that.
James and Erin, while they do have three kids would have been fine whether or not they had kids. They left that up to God (and being lax on protection) and would have been happy together if they never had kids but are thrilled that they have a few. Their family was always complete and just got more complete. It was never a priority but they are a team and they like having a family, they think they had the best kids in the world and feel like they got lucky every single time with their kids being so great.
And Orla is the reverse of Clare sorta in that they don’t need or want a partner (ace/aro) but REALLY wanted kids. They treat their sport teams they coach like those are their kids and actively sought out getting pregnant whenever Erin did because they got baby fever - if Orla had found someone to get them knocked up during the pandemic when James/Erin had their surprise quarantine baby they would have a third kid. Happy single parent-ish. David Donnelly isn’t really in the picture for Cleo while Phoebe, her younger daughter, has a doting weekend dad in Chris.
Also idk, I really like that Matilda and Cleo have a friend that is so far removed from being related to them with Kerry Coyle being a background classmate the gang barely knew. And you can pry Jason/Matilda from my cold dead hands it’s so funny and cute.
#derry girls#james maguire#erin quinn#clare devlin#orla mccool#michelle mallon#james x erin#Jerin#idk man these girls just would all have different opinions on starting families to me basically
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