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I am Mohammed, I live in the northern besieged Gaza Strip, I am 21 years old, I have always tried to create a beautiful future for myself in which I achieve all my wishes. I had ambitions and dreams, but they evaporated because of the war, but I still want to achieve them despite the siege. During the war, I lost many things, including my university, my dreams, my job, and some friends. Despite that, I still want to achieve my dreams and ambitions. I want to rebuild my life again, so please help me in that and rebuild my life. Therefore,
please donate as much as you can because that helps me a lot. If you cannot donate, tell people about my suffering.






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Here’s the clip of Linda and Paul calling Keith Moon like a dog from the premiere of Tommy (1975)
David Frost: “You mentioned the modern music scene. Did you f- Do you think people are not, will, will understand this?”
Linda McCartney: “Uh I think uh- Hey, Moonie!”
Paul McCartney: “Here, here boy”
David Frost: “Yes I think that uh-“
Linda McCartney: “I think younger people too will appreciate it more, and uh-“
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my favorite thing about having become a paul girl is that i can confidently say i loved linda mccartney first because i obsessively had veggie burgers for all years of university and i didnt even know paul was in the beatles. i owe her my entire life. i love those mozzarella burgers. i did not know who that guy was on the back of the packaging
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Rock and roll circus in its entirety is (currently) on YouTube for anyone that’s never seen it
#go watch pete townshend knock over a stand and look really sheepish about it!!!!! and also whatever the. scenes between mick jagger and#john lennon were supposed to be about#the beatles#the who
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(Going off of the initial Japanese release dates as to which generation was current at the time excluding remakes that came out during that period. For simplicity's sake)
For example I turned 10 in 2007 so I would be starting in the Sinnoh region! Bonus if you tell me your partner Pokémon 👀 doesn't have to be one of the three starters!
#unova hell YEAHHHHH!!!! nimbasa city here i come#my partner would be a reuniclus i picked up on the road. we meditate together
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Keke Palmer as Emerald Haywood in Nope 04/??
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underrated paul track thats danceable but also a bit melancholic. it flew byyyy it fleww byyy in a flaaash :,,)))
#and the music video has paul mccartney dancing with sexy ladies except it has to be 60 year old friendly dance moves. so its. It sure is.#tuuunes#getting nostalgic over a life that i havent lived and years that havent yet happened to me!!!!#Spotify
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Okay here it is. The moment that zero of you have been waiting for: My infodump about framing devices and modern audio fiction.
If you're a newer fiction podcast listener, you may have asked, "Why do so many shows pretend to be some real thing?" And if you're a newer fiction podcast creator (as I am), you may have asked, "Do I have to use a framing device?"
Short Answer: It's never been a requirement, but it is fun for some creators, it is useful for some stories, and the tradition of it dates back farther than you might think.
(Extremely) Long Answer:
I would say that the tradition's lineage can be traced back in two directions, separately: horror and radio.
Horror.
This one goes way back. Way way back. Dracula, Frankenstein, etc etc... There really is something about what we would now call "found footage" that creates a workable balance between believable and unbelievable - make it seem like it could have actually happened, however impossible the story is, and (if done right) the horror aspects hit deeper. Combine that with the automatic sense of the unkown that comes from only reading snippets from a few characters' personal perspectives; horror thrives on the unknown.
[Tangent] The podcast Re:Dracula, which I feel should be mentioned here, is a very interesting representation of all this - as a direct adaptation, it maintains the framing device of the novel Dracula: the letters. Its extension of the device is brought not in the audio format but in the RSS feed format. No attempt is made to explain why we're hearing the voices of the characters, as many fiction podcasts default to, rather the immersion comes in experiencing the sense of time between the missives. [End Tangent]
Moving into film, found footage actually took a while to make it onto the scene, but once it did, oh my god did it change everything. Okay, Blair Witch was technically not the first found footage horror film, but we're not going down that rabbit hole. Most would call it the first good one, or at least the first successful one. Which is interesting because at this point we've had plenty of films based on books with framing devices, most of which entirely do away with the framing in the adaptation. So why was 1999 the year film was ripe for framing devices to enter the horror film genre in a big way? I would say it's plausibility. Personal-sized video cameras were now (relatively) affordable, and had been around long enough that people who made and watched films were familiar with them. So it's now a believable thing to be able to cobble together a documentary from clips found on a camcorder, and so they do and now the horror market is changed forever. Next comes copycats, and movies that take the concept and make it their own (like Cloverfield and Paranormal Activity), and movies that parody the now-ubiquitous trope (like Grave Enounters).
So by the time fiction podcasts take off, found footage horror is well established as a beloved reawakening of a beloved literary tradition. And it fits easily in audio horror for much the same reasons as it did in video horror. Think Magnus, Archive 81, probably every SCP podcast, and so on. And within audio fiction, the horror genre is very popular and very much a trendsetter, historically speaking.
Radio.
I could probably get away with just discussing a single event here, and you can probably guess it, but I'll try to go for a broader scope than just the autumn of 1938.
So, honestly, as far as I can tell, old radio shows had a habit of using framing devices just for funsies (or at least for lots of different reasons that I could get lost in exploring but I won't). Importantly though, they largely used different framing devices than books had used up to this point. They were innovative, which is an attitude that certainly transferred into modern audio fiction. Without digging too deep into any of them, here's some notable examples:
Let's start with The Shadow because of course we start with The Goddamn Shadow. This one used a very soft framing device, since it doesn't really explain why the audio broadcast exists, just why it's coming to you in audio format instead of visual: The Shadow has invisibility powers. Yeah I know that's a pretty weak connection, but it's a connection the show attempts to imply: The Shadow often manifests as a disembodied voice, and that ties in to it being a radio show. 🤷🏻
Sherlock Holmes (the one with Basil Rathbone) used a somewhat stricter framing device in pretending to be conversations between Holmes, Watson and an interviewer, in which they describe the events of solving the mystery after the fact - pretty similar to the framing of the original books, but adapted well to audio.
Dragnet framed itself as police reports, I think.
Dimension X and X Minus One both, to varying degrees, frame themselves as tales coming to the listener from the actual future and from an actual alternate universe, respectively. (If you ask me, they should have traded names.) Of course, this doesn't make much use of the audio format specifically, but it illustrates that by this point framing devices in audio were a tradition and not unusual at all.
~We now return you to the music of Ramón Raquello and his orchestra.
Yeah okay here it is. We have to go here.
October 30, 1938 was a day that changed science fiction, audio drama, FCC regulations, and probably the entirety of scripted performance art, forever.
Orson Welles' radio adaptation of The War of the Worlds was so flawlessly framed as breaking news that it famously caused something of a mass panic. While the extent of the panic was slightly exaggerated, it's true that the show was so well done that many people who missed the beginning (or didn't pay attention to it) thought the nation was actually being invaded.
The story that they wanted to tell relied heavily on the device of being a purported news broadcast, and there's no doubt that its impact stems from that device - we're still talking about it 90 years later, and not because of the plot of the story.
I'll leave the parallels and differences between the legacy of War of the Worlds and that of The Black Tapes to be explored by someone else.
Modern Audio Fiction Carries On the Tradition.
Broadcasts.
I've already mentioned TMA, Re:Drac, and Black Tapes.
I haven't mentioned Welcome to Night Vale, which (love it or hate it) was without a doubt one of the biggest catalysts of the audio drama renaissance in podcast form. We all know people who have only ever listened to one fiction podcast, almost invariably either TMA or WtNV. And Night Vale came first and got popular first. Its format as a small-town news radio broadcast has been imitated, innovated, responded to, and intentionally avoided more times than I can count. Very much worth mentioning is that Night Vale popularized the idea of using a framing device not as a way to add plausibility to its stories (nothing could, it's peak absurdism after all), but to add structure. The author knows what to write where, the listener knows what to expect when. Another appeal of framing devices, and another reason why they're so widespread.
Tapes.
Ah yes the tapes. Horror podcasts and their tapes. Drowning in tapes (/lh). It works so well because (a) it's an easy fit for found footage audio, (b) it adds a "spooky" analog horror vibe, and (c) it's fun and fairly easy to design, and forgives a lot in terms of recording quality and editing skill - good for creators at all levels of proficiency. Voicemail and voice memos have similar benefits but without the well-loved "spooky analog" aspect.
Limitations.
The Bright Sessions, Moonbase Theta Out, Wolf 359, and quite a few others all have something in common: they eventually gave up their framing devices. In my opinion, the shows' improvements after doing so is not by any means a reflection on framing as a concept, but instead a demonstration of a show's need to adapt as it grows. Sometimes Episode 149 follows the same form and format as Episode 1, sometimes it doesn't, and a creator's ability to accurately assess whether the format fits the story they want to tell leads to decisions like this (which can be really difficult decisions to make), but ultimately, doing what's best for the story itself always pays off.
When you choose a framing format, you sort of lock in how you're going to write the show and what it's going to sound like. This can be very useful. Like in writing poetry, some of us work better under constraints - it causes us to flex our creativity. It also, as explained above, creates a framework, a formula, which can make it easier to outline an episode.
But it doesn't work for every story. Some shows hold on to their framing devices too long, the plot filling and stretching the format until the frame is bursting at the seams. Conversely, though, I say a series shouldn't abandon a device if it doesn't need the new narrative freedom to further the story - something to fill the absence of the episode format as a player itself in the work.
Form as Storytelling.
This is, in my opinion, one of the greatest (and too often untapped) strengths of framing devices in any medium. I LOVE IT when a piece of art uses its medium as part of the art itself. What part of your story can you only tell because of the medium you're using? What unique part of your medium can you use to enhance the story?
Some absolute favorite examples of this idea from other media, in no particular order: the ending of The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, the very end of Zelda TotK, Shakespeare's frequent use of play-within-a-play, the Thor fight in God of War, tons of bits of Series of Unfortunate Events (the books), the twist and out-of-game-play in DDLC, all of WandaVision, the elephant scene from It Takes Two, Asteroid City...
It's something I kind of want to see more of in audio fiction: powerful moments in using the medium of audio as a tool to tell the story rather than only a limitation to be written around. Framing devices help with this, but there are a lot of opportunities in other tools too. I find it in horror and comedy series, and few other places.
Conclusion.
This went on way longer than I expected. I have too many thoughts about it. To sum up:
Why are there so many shows pretending to be some real thing? Because there is a very strong tradition of it in audio fiction, because it provides a lot of structure and benefits especially to newer creators, because it allows for the medium to be part of the art form in a way, and of course because it's fun!
Should I use a framing device in my fiction podcast? My dear, nobody can answer that but you! Ask youself if it would improve your story, if it would improve your writing ability, if it sounds fun to you, and if it would create a show that you would want to listen to (I always say that you should be your own target audience; if you would want the thing to exist, odds are someone else will enjoy its existence). If you use one, you're in good company; if you don't, you're in good company. If you start with one and drop it for season 3, or if you start without one and pick it up partway through, you're in good company. You can do a full-cast immersive found-footage show with sound effects, you can do an audiobook as a podcast, and you can do anything in between!
Feel free to add corrections, context, and additional notes to any of the above. I'm not a history expert, I'm just a nerd with internet access.
Peace and love on every planet, y'all.
#yaaaay this is a nice writeup of what i did my masters thesis on!!!#the schmancy word for this is 'remediation' which jay bolter and david grusin wrote the seminal text on although its based on marshall#mcluhan!!! particularly his ideas on active/passive mediums. if you wanna read on this a bit more tim crooks book on radio drama Plus#andrew bottomley's 2021???? i thinnk. book. called sound streams. that covers this topic re: nightvale!!!#and me :3c my phd is going to be on the aural aspects of this#wonderful addition from a beloved mutual as well <3#podcasts tag
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Every David Lynch movie makes sense btw
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oh. ok
from the ‘question time with paul’ segment of nme april 18, 1970: “paul mccartney interviews himself, and breaks up the beatles” (as reprinted in ‘paul stories: a mccartney scrapbook’, free with the january 2021 issue of uncut)
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hey youtube user VideoAmericanStyle can you not...
#i am SICK. stuffy nose and horrible throat. bad. bad#and then this commenter comes out swinging re john and paul THANKS
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BJ just sitting there straight up creaming his pants like “And then hot, sexy Carl will come over with a skin tight t-shirt on with the sleeves cut off….. and then he will climb up a ladder and Peg will simply not be able to resist watching his beautiful ass cheeks as he ascends….. and then he will sexily remove debris with his huge arms from the helpess tender open gutter….. and then he will suggest having sex right there on the luscious dewy grass…. and how can I possibly resist….. I mean how can my wife Peg possibly resist…….”
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Christ’s College, Cambridge
England, June 1967
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bj knew hawkeye would come around and decide not to go home. he had to have. but it's still such a gamble to turn around and walk off the bus when this guy who is quickly becoming your best friend and safety net says "dead serious," and then stays put. because what if bj had been wrong? what if he hadn't figured hawkeye out as well as he thought he had, and the last words they ever spoke to one another were "you serious?" and "dead serious." imagine that guilt and constant wondering of "what if."
we know hawkeye comes back. we know the show continues on, and we know the wounded kept coming. but it feels almost like a cautionary tale reminding the viewer that war doesn't care about individuals. it keeps churning out bodies and destruction and it doesn't stop for just one person.
it only stops if they actually die.
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Harry Nilsson and Ringo Starr presents during the 15th Grammy Awards show in Nashville March 3, 1973.
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ITS MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)!!!!!!!!
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