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last reblog i swear but im wondering if i should make a fansprite about that

today one of my friends was sending fanmade page designs on discord so i tried to make my own dumb take

basically he wears his cape on the front instead of the back and it is also where his aspect symbol is at (sadly i also got them pants)

originally i wasn't going to keep the long sleeves but my friend said he missed them so i added them in lmao

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i need COCK hektor

great question anon however i am currently compromised so i'll have to pulverize you from existence

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ok so uhhh i need to tell you guys this

this blog's been on hold for this week until tomorrow because i'm with almost ZERO free time in my home since i wake up and go to college and then after i need to immediately go to work and i have like zero internet in there which means the only free time i get with proper internet access is at night and i'm normally super exhausted when i get back home xd

so yeah, tomorrow i'll probably get back to responding and also sorry if im taking too long to respond as well

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SEER OF VOID BEAM!!!!

Literally reverse rose lalonde, very nice.

The Seer is someone who studies their main Aspect by using its opposite as a source. Rose consulted the Horrorterrors and Doc Scratch (an entity she didnt exactly knew very well about and used to leave pretty vague about information although he infact did never lie) as a way to get information (Light), and Terezi used roleplay and impersonation/assumption (Heart motif) as a way of tracing logic (Mind) between the facts.

Void is the Aspect that deals with vagueness in general. It doesn't necessarily embody inexistence although it is one of its motifs, more likely it is the stuff that it's there but its not plainly obvious to the naked eye. That's also why i believe invisible energy/connection is one of Void's motifs, due to the abundance of internet signal on the Furthest Ring and the Fenestrated Planes being a thing.

The Seer of Void would be someone who wants to learn about Void by getting it through Light. This is more likely someone who would consult every type of readable source about Void there is to know the most of. Someone who would try to comprehend the uncomprehendable with information. You could have someone that tries to understand the Horrorterrors by consulting every bit of information there is, someone who wants to understand ignorance by doing detailed studies of it, someone who wants to comprehend mysteries or possibly find clues by using special glasses/visions, and many more stuff.

The Seer's growth is that he needs to take care of himself to NOT be corrupted by his opposite Aspect to the point where it forbiddens him. Rose had this in a more literal sense with her Grimdark form symbolizing her blind trust in the Horrorterrors's words and Terezi had in a more metaphorical sense with her feelings (Heart) interrupting her in the most crucial hours and preventing her from doing the right thing, like her not killing Gamzee on [S] GAME OVER for example.

This gets really interesting when we're talking about a Seer of Void. Maybe this Seer doesn't really get to know Void very well exactly because he's only studying theoretical information about it and isn't properly experiencing it, or maybe something more literal like his binding to Light makes him more of a target/enemy to the Horrorterrors than an ally, or maybe even a opposite Grimdark form if you want to play with that.

Anyway, the general rule of the Seer is that they want to comprehend their main Aspect by studying their opposite in some way. In this Seer's case he wants to comprehend vagueness by getting information about it. Make of that what you will.

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hi there! i saw your classpect of diemen and was wondering if youd be interested in analyzing the other half of the first friendsim for ardata. i love that her sign is aligned to doom but im not sure what class she would have

Hello there! You're lucky because weeks ago i did an analysis on her on one of my friend groups on discord so i already have kind of a baked response but basically i believe she's a Knight of Doom.

The Knight is someone who protects/preserves the Aspect for themselves by hiding it from others normally because they have a certain insecurity about it. I often call them the "tsunderes" of the classpecting group because they always have the Aspect in some way shape or form but really don't want to admit it. You'd may THINK they're more inclined to their opposite aspect on a surface view until you know them better and you notice that this is only a façade to hide who they truly are. I love using Karkat as an example because he's the most obvious one, talking like he always despises his friends but being always worried if their friendship will last.

Meanwhile Doom is about Obedience. Like i said earlier, Doom's goal is not to screw the person over only because they're 'doomed', the goal is to reinforce the lesson that some things are out of your control, and you should follow it not because you want to, not even because you don't want to, but because you're forced to. That's why it is the opposite of Life, the Aspect that deals with you having enough power and influence to change everything around you.

Now, i know what you're thinking. Ardata doesn't sound like a Life player at all, and i do agree on the literal sense. But Ardata isn't hiding Doom by being all positive and bubbly, she's hiding Doom in a sense of she's making it seem like she's not FORCED to do what she does. She even "incorporates" her persona in the way she acts, in a similar fashion to the metaphoric "mask" that all Knights have.

The thing about Ardata is that she's always faking enjoyment with the content she's making and making it seem like she only does it because she wants to. By faking her laughter and acting like society expects her to, she's hiding the fact that she's only doing it for the sake of Obedience (Doom).

Knights hold a fear of exposing their Aspect to the world because they normally think that society will judge them in some way. That's where the "protecting themselves through the Aspect" comes into play. Ardata pretty much says it right in front of you. That also says about the Doom aspect as well, as she keeps herself from doing what she wants in order to obey the laws of the society she's in.

Basically, she's protecting Doom (in this case, the fabricated 'norm' of how Ceruleans should behave and the fact she's only doing it because she feels the need to obey) by making it seem like she does it naturally, because she likes it.

Also just a note, although Ardata only does the content she does out of feeling obligated to do so i wouldn't say she HATES it either. It's more like she's dessensitized by it (as probably all trolls are, there's a child troll who literally uses troll blood as paint) and wanted to do something else. She does it mostly because she FEELS LIKE she's following orders.

Oh and also, Diemen's bad ending might count as her protecting you through Doom by disposing his body.

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Heir of Mind? It seems like a tricky one to me

Pretty easy! The Heir of Mind is a person who needs to learn to put logic and thought into his decisions if he wants to bring the best results to themselves. I'll explain.

The Heir is a class that is naturally gifted with their Aspect. Contrary to the other classes whose challenge is normally something related to their Aspect itself, the only thing that is really difficulting the Heir is their opposite. Once you notice this pattern you'll never forget it. They also normally have a personality that remains to the "stereotype" of the Aspect itself,

Meanwhile Mind is the Aspect that is the opposite of Heart. Contrary to what some sources say, just as Heart is not necessarily 'egotistical' Mind is not necessarily altruistic. The point of Mind is that this aspect deals with pure, cold logic. You take away the traits and emotional state of the person who did something to only focus on the decisions they did and why. Rational vs. Irrational.

I think this gives a pretty straightforward answer to how an Heir of Mind should somewhat behave. This person would be someone that needs to learn to trust Mind in their own ways and do not go along with Heart. You could have someone that is really intelligent but gets himself in trouble every time he does something related to emotions and/or romantic passion, a possible theorist/detective that needs to investigate and formulate theories to help their group but needs to not let themselves get too emotionally invested on it to the point where this prejudices both the investigation and their own mental health (very similar to Terezi's character arc), and many more.

As for the powers, Heirs are suspected to "transform" into their Aspect and i like to believe that too because it's a great pun with the whole "your aspect and you are so alike that you two are practically the same person". Applying this to this title may seem tricky, but i have my guesses.

The most interesting thought i had about this is that since Mind also embodies decisions this Heir could literally turn into a command for the next page, just like Terezi did with the Retcon. You could also make him turn into exactly what he's thinking at the moment (although this may look too similar to Hope for me) or maybe literally turning into Mind like turning into a brain or neuron or something xddd

Anyways, that's practically it. The general thing you should keep in mind with the Heir is that he always gets screwed up when dealing with something that relates to their opposite aspect, in this case Heart. They don't need to avoid it constantly (but an Heir of Mind who concludes this might also make for an interesting character) but they need to learn to mostly rely on their main Aspect. Just think about how John would've done if he never did anything by himself in the first acts and only depended on his friends to do everything. He'd probably never even get to the Medium in time.

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One more thing i forgot to add, but the growth that the Prince has to overcome at least from my perspective is that he needs to understand that he needs to let a bit of his aspect in order for him to not screw his team up in the process. Eridan destroyed so much Hope that he quite literally got abandoned by his friends which prompted him to do what he did. Kurloz had so much of his Rage destroyed that he went on to manipulate his relationships because of his obedience to Lord English.

Adapting this to a Prince of Doom could mean that he needs to accept that some rules exist for a reason, to accept that fate can also be necessary and even positive depending on the context, that he needs to accept some obligations as well and not always only do what he wants, and so on.

how do we feel about prince of doom

You scare me. /j

The Prince of Doom is someone who actively destroys Doom, and can also destroy through Doom.

Breaking down its title, the Prince is someone who directly avoids their Aspect which ironically makes their behaviour more akin to that of their opposite aspect. A Prince of Blood would act more similar to a Breath player since he directly avoids friendships with other people for example. The thing about this though is that they also act like this normally because of an ambition they have with their Aspect.

Eridan had ambitions with being someone just like Dualscar, his main weapon of choice even being something that his ancestor used, and the belief he had that Jack Noir would accept a truce with him aspired him to kill all the other trolls (in other words, destroyed Hope through Hope) while Dirk had his passion for Jake that motivated him to be the most useful player in the Nobles's session. (you can TELL that i didnt get through this part yet xd)

Doom meanwhile gets a really bad connotation but what i think the keyword for it is Obedience. Doom is about knowing that certain things in life you simply cannot change, and you might as well accept and go through it. That's why Doom players are able to foresee the certain future, not only because of a play with the typical prophet of doom archetype, but also because thats the aspect's non verbal way of saying "Hey fucker, that's exactly what's going to happen and you better accept it."

Contrary to most analysis i've seen i don't think Doom has to be necessarily ALWAYS detrimental to the user. People need to remember that the most things we know about the aspect is from Sollux, who is from a class that is directly stated to suffer constantly with their Aspect. Doom's goal is not to needlessly screw you up, it's to show you that you need to tolerate and accept certain stuff, because there are no ways to change it.

With that said, a Prince of Doom would be someone who directly avoids their Fate, the rules and possibly their own death.

This is a really interesting title. The main thing about Doom is that the aspect really wants you to accept it wenether you like it or not, but that rule gets warped when you add a destruction class into the mix. You could have someone kinda like Diavolo, who can foresse the future and uses it to avoid it if it's not favorable to them because they're really paranoid of death, you could have someone who avoids every possible rule they can because they're been motivated by another figure of authority such as their Lusii, you could have a revolutionary person who wants to overthrow authority in order to become the new one, and so on.

Doom players also have a special trait that i discussed earlier about them being able to see the certain future. While this is true i might also like to add that i have a personal hc that the way you can foresse future depends on your class. This essentially means that in my vision a Prince of Doom could either avoid having those visions at all or directly avoiding them happening like the Diavolo example i said earlier.

Oh and of course, destroying Doom sounds rad. You can essentially destroy the fundamental rules of Sburb allowing anything to be possible or you could directly destroy the death of someone from your group. You could even do the impossible, avoiding certain fate. Maybe even the Reckoning itself.

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how do we feel about prince of doom

You scare me. /j

The Prince of Doom is someone who actively destroys Doom, and can also destroy through Doom.

Breaking down its title, the Prince is someone who directly avoids their Aspect which ironically makes their behaviour more akin to that of their opposite aspect. A Prince of Blood would act more similar to a Breath player since he directly avoids friendships with other people for example. The thing about this though is that they also act like this normally because of an ambition they have with their Aspect.

Eridan had ambitions with being someone just like Dualscar, his main weapon of choice even being something that his ancestor used, and the belief he had that Jack Noir would accept a truce with him aspired him to kill all the other trolls (in other words, destroyed Hope through Hope) while Dirk had his passion for Jake that motivated him to be the most useful player in the Nobles's session. (you can TELL that i didnt get through this part yet xd)

Doom meanwhile gets a really bad connotation but what i think the keyword for it is Obedience. Doom is about knowing that certain things in life you simply cannot change, and you might as well accept and go through it. That's why Doom players are able to foresee the certain future, not only because of a play with the typical prophet of doom archetype, but also because thats the aspect's non verbal way of saying "Hey fucker, that's exactly what's going to happen and you better accept it."

Contrary to most analysis i've seen i don't think Doom has to be necessarily ALWAYS detrimental to the user. People need to remember that the most things we know about the aspect is from Sollux, who is from a class that is directly stated to suffer constantly with their Aspect. Doom's goal is not to needlessly screw you up, it's to show you that you need to tolerate and accept certain stuff, because there are no ways to change it.

With that said, a Prince of Doom would be someone who directly avoids their Fate, the rules and possibly their own death.

This is a really interesting title. The main thing about Doom is that the aspect really wants you to accept it wenether you like it or not, but that rule gets warped when you add a destruction class into the mix. You could have someone kinda like Diavolo, who can foresse the future and uses it to avoid it if it's not favorable to them because they're really paranoid of death, you could have someone who avoids every possible rule they can because they're been motivated by another figure of authority such as their Lusii, you could have a revolutionary person who wants to overthrow authority in order to become the new one, and so on.

Doom players also have a special trait that i discussed earlier about them being able to see the certain future. While this is true i might also like to add that i have a personal hc that the way you can foresse future depends on your class. This essentially means that in my vision a Prince of Doom could either avoid having those visions at all or directly avoiding them happening like the Diavolo example i said earlier.

Oh and of course, destroying Doom sounds rad. You can essentially destroy the fundamental rules of Sburb allowing anything to be possible or you could directly destroy the death of someone from your group. You could even do the impossible, avoiding certain fate. Maybe even the Reckoning itself.

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Play phoenix wright ace attorney and then classpect all the characters

I NEED to know what classpect they have

EU NAO MANJO DE AÇO ATORNATO AAARGH

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maid of blood maid of blood maid of blood maid of blood

The Maid of Blood would basically be someone that serves Blood for others or in other words heals/helps others with Blood.

A Maid is someone who needs to provide assistance with their aspect but they're currently unavaiable to do so because of their own aspect holding them back. Their development is to overcome this challenge and provide assistance to the others.

Meanwhile, Blood is the aspect that deals with what makes us bound to the world, essentially our relationships with the people around us. That's why it is the opposite of Breath, symbol of ultimate freedom.

There's many ways in which a single title can work since aspects have multiple interchangeable motifs that you can play with. A Maid of Blood could be someone who wants to be the best matchmaker there is, but is limited by their own best friend in some way, like having a disproportinal dynamic where the maid tries too much to please that friend and this creates a disproportional relationship, and such.

You could also lean more into the literal sense, as if the Maid's literal Blood works as an obstacle for her. Like a troll who wants to unify the castes or just have more friends in general but it's held back by their low caste (basically signless 2), someone whose blood is actually detrimental to their health and they need to transfuse a fresh one but can't reach it because of their declining health, and after they do it they'll provide others with more fresh Blood, and much other scenarios i didn't think of.

There's multiple interpretations that you can do with titles. The general rule though is that a Maid of Blood will try to Serve/Heal Blood through Blood, starting the story being held back by their Blood and having to overcome it in some way in order for them to provide assistance with it in the future.

As always, i also remember that i'm currently redefining my classpecting notions as i reread Homestuck and my opinions might always change, and i honestly don't think i know Maids really well enough, but i hope that this analysis helps in some way.

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also i wasnt updating because i felt too lazy to respond this week xddd but i might do it like rn

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Riddle me this Batman what would Diemen's classpect be

ok so i was writing this long ass paragraph about how i thought he was a page of hope but now that i'm looking into it i think he's more a bard PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN

The general idea about Bards is that they allow the destruction of their Aspect. Well and what the fuck does that mean?

The Bards "allowing" the destruction of their Aspect means that instead of avoiding their Aspect directly like a Prince does, they do that indirectly by letting something or someone else destroy it for them. Cronus got quite literally talked out of his beliefs that he would destroy Lord English (a symbol of Hope for the dancestors) because of someone who's implied to be Kurloz, the Prince of Rage.

With that said, i can now explain the reasons why i think that's Diemen's title.

1 - He's REALLY distrustful of you initially.

While Hope represents the general belief you might put onto something, Rage represents your general DISTRUST towards something, which is why it is the direct opposite of Hope. Rage doesn't necessarily mean realism as some people think. It's rather more associated with the ideas of skepticism, since it literally represents lack of trust on something or someone.

I don't think i need to elaborate further on why Diemen ends up acting like a Rage player at least initially. He's constantly distrustful of you, and even more on himself.

He's constantly being disappointed by something else.

Bards are often rendered unable to embrace their Aspect to the fullest because of that "something else" that is destroying the Aspect for them, might be on purpose or not.

We have multiple examples of Diemen getting dissilusioned by something that causes him to be paranoid again. We have his bad ending, his lusii's death, people exploiting his guillibleness for his Oblong Meat Product, and other things.

Things just tend to fuck up when he gets too trustful (hopeful).

When the Bards fully embrace their Aspect, they switch from destroying *their* aspect to destroying *with their* aspect, and sadly with Diemen is no different.

Every time he puts on hope into something, some tragedy happens and ends up destroying his hope in the process. He's not even capable of holding it very well himself, if we go by his good ending route.

Funnily in that same scene we also have an example of things fucking up solely because he started getting hopeful again.

I'm going to shorten the rest of my ramble as best as i can because i think this post is getting too long, but i don't necessarily believe Bards need to be kept from their "crises" all the time or else they will never be normal again.

I basically think that the Bard should keep more stuff that destroys the Aspect for him in some way. Having more than just one coping mechanism, you know? The two Bards of the comic were rendered irredemable mostly because the thing that kept them in control got quite literally destroyed and no one else tried fixing another for them.

At last, i want to remind that my classpecting is NOT absolute, that i'm never fully decided on titles and i can always change up my interpretation. (especially this one tbh)

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explain the aspects.

For me to explain what Aspects are i also need to essentially explain what classes are.

In my insight, a Class basically refers to HOW your personality works and WHAT do you need to learn for you to grow as a person. You can be a Prince, someone who directly avoids their aspect but needs to learn that you shouldn't destroy it to the point where you end up going crazy and betraying your team in the process, or you could be a Knight, someone who protects their aspect in themselves but need to learn that they don't have to keep a mask ALL the time, as it is prejudicial to their own emotional stability.

Aspects on the other hand, deal with WHAT do your personality mainly works with. They're specifically designed to be as open as possible so everyone can work around their personality on it in some way or another. In that sense, while i believe they DO hold a general common idea in all of their motifs, hero titles usually deal with aspects in multiple ways, both literally and metaphorically, simultaneously as well.

Aspects are often EXTREME opposites of eachother, that is, the lack of one means the excess of the other, especially since they always represent completely opposite concepts. Someone that is with a shortage of Breath (Freedom) for example, is also with a lot of Blood (Friendship).

There is no objectively *bad* Aspect. No, not even Doom. Your life doesn't have to be inherently fucked up solely because of the aspect you have. Aspects have multiple interpretations and motifs that you can work with, and that's what makes it fun.

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introduction post i think

okay so, i'm starting this more as a test AND as a way for me to excessively ramble about my hyperfixation and express my own thoughts about classes and aspects in general

i honestly have no idea how to even BEGIN with this blog, but basically all i want to say first is that all my interpretations are NOT by any means absolutely in the right and i will certainly change my conclusions as time goes on, especially now that i'm recently rereading the comic after finishing it for like, 2 years

with that said, i hope my ramblings serve to at least help some people in what to do with hero titles in general, and maybe even help their undestanding of the characters etc.

so uhh idk, ask me anything and i'll nerdy ramble about it xd