#knight of doom

[starlit1daydream]

Knights & Pages: Deficiency and Exploitation

Well, then... here we are.

A day in delay, I'm aware; but I'm afraid I can't always be accounting for extraneous real-life factors. My apologies.

The Knight:Page class dichotomy embodies deficiency, exploitation and arguably compensation as well. They imbue their Aspect into their fighting prowess, utilise it both as a weapon and a tool, and often use it to constitute a shield as well. (Literally and metaphorically).

The presence of either (or both) of these classes also functions as a signal; as by their very nature, they exist to compensate for a deficiency in their Aspect within their session proper.

Canonical Knight players are Dave Strider (Knight of Time), Karkat Vantas (Knight of Blood) and Latula Pyrope (Knight of Mind).

Canonical Page players are Jake English (Page of Hope), Tavros Nitram (Page of Breath) and Horuss Zahhak (Page of Void).

So, Point A. The narrative function of the Knight.

Narratively speaking, the Knight is one who defends their Aspect; and uses it as a defense in turn. They are defined by maintaining a rigid facade, born of their Aspect and used to hide a perceived deficiency in it. Their Aspect is their sword and their shield, and this oft manifests as a deep-seated insecurity.

Dave's insecurity is with his masculinity, mortality and conception of 'heroism'. Karkat's insecurity is with the colour of his blood, his fear of ostracisation and social exile. Latula's insecurity is less clear-cut, but the most prevalent theory is that the injury that rendered her anosmic also left her with brain damage.

Thus, we see here that their fear comes from lacking in their Aspect. Dave lacks confidence in his ability to face closure & his projections of masculinity (something he misconstrues with heroism). Dave doesn't want a great destiny; he wants to be a normal guy who lives a normal life and dies a normal death. He's essentially a tutorial NPC thrust into plot bullshit after plot bullshit.

Karkat lacks confidence in his sense of self caused by his mutant blood and his persistent fear of social ostracisation and subsequent death should his status be exposed. One could also argue it is a disillusionment with the Alternian social order that he does not fit into by design, but feels he must follow anyways (hence his ass-kissing dreams of threschecutioner greatness).

(Here's where the conjecture comes in...)

Latula lacks confidence in her capacity for rational thought and ability to use logic for her own (and others') defense. If we're going with the TBI narrative for her, she feels as if she lacks intelligence as a result. Tying into Latula's commentary on the misogyny in online gaming circles and we get a girl who is deeply, deeply terrified of rising above her station and displaying an intellect.

So, Dave pretends to be a self-assured, chauvinistic 'cool kid'.

Karkat pretends to be a bossy, self-righteous 'perfect leader'.

Latula pretends to be an air-headed, radical 'gamer chick'.

All of them deny themselves depth and identity for the explicit purpose of denying people the right to know them on a deeper level.

Let's simplify this - Knights feel they lack their Aspect and compensate for it. End of.

Here's where the dramatic irony comes in; Knights are the only people in their session who are proficient with their Aspect at all. Dave is the only Beta Kid concerned with Time management, Karkat is the only Beta Troll concerned with maintaining social order and collaboration, Latula is the only Alpha Troll concerned with logical thought and logical argument.

Because the Beta Kids lack Time on their side, the Beta Trolls lack Blood to bind them together, and the Alpha Trolls lack Mind to... well, to be totally blunt, to use their fucking brains.

(The Beta Kids' lack of Time being tied moreso to the nature of their Game as opposed to the nature of themselves is absolutely a matter of Lunar Sway, by the way).

That's what they need to learn, and subsequently use their Aspect to defend. Dave defending his co-players from certain death and entropy, Karkat defending his co-players from turning on eachother and descending into conflict, Latula defending Mituna from disbelief and abuse through logical counterargument.

Here, we're dovetailing directly into Point B - practical function.

We're all caught up in flowery metaphors and abstract conceptions, but how does this translate to a literal function within SBURB?

Simple. The Knight imbues, exploits and weaponises their Aspect. They don't generate it or control it in any way - that's the caveat of their function. Knights must exploit an already existing well of their Aspect and use that minimal supply to the best of their abilities.

It's the literal manifestation of their abilities for compensation! They have to merely 'make do' with what's available. After all - if there was an influx of their Aspect to work with, there wouldn't be a deficiency to combat.

This journey ties into their narrative function as learning to use it and defend through it also comes with dropping the mask and putting down your sword every once in a while. We don't ever get to see this fully with Latula, unfortunately, but we see Dave and Karkat (through means of eachother, actually) learn to relax in eachothers' presence and drop some of their unhealthy preconceptions.

Now, let's go on to the Pages!

Point C - narrative function.

Pages function in much the same way as Knights on a base level - existing to cover for an existing deficit in their session by virtue of compensation. The difference, obviously, comes in their passivity - and their different manifestation of their Aspect which more directly feels to be a shield as opposed to a sword.

Pages turn the Knights' overcompensation on its' head. Like Knights, they too believe their lack their Aspect, and thus project an image of possessing an influx of it. The difference is that Pages... actually do have that deficiency.

Jake lacks Hope. He lacks faith in himself, lacks the belief in his own capacity to bring a better future and finds it difficult to hold onto his convictions when the going gets tough.

Tavros lacks Breath. He lacks a direction or an objective to follow, lacks freedom by virtue of his disability and Vriska's control of his life. He prefers to avoid things and run away from problems.

Horuss lacks Void. He lacks the ability to cope with imperfection and the fact he doesn't know things. He can't deal with being absent or bereft of purpose.

And, likewise, their sessions lack their Aspect as well in equal measure!

The Alpha Kids lack Hope in the same manner - they don't have the motivation to keep going and find themselves falling into depression and passivity. Dirk even lampshades this!

The Beta Trolls lack Breath - none of them have freedom to choose their own destinies due to oppressive Alternian society and thus fall into the trappings of the roles laid out before them.

The Alpha Trolls lack Void - the teenage echo chamber of drama and gossip denies anybody the right to secrecy or privacy, and their presence in the dreambubbles forces them into proximity and furthers this absence.

Now, it's a common conception that this absence means a Page is weak by default, or outright useless. I absolutely abhor this notion. A Page is not the 'weakling' class - they merely rely upon guidance.

For Jake, it's his fantasies. His masks. His projections of heroism and adventure - and Brain Ghost Dirk is the literal manifestation.

For Tavros, it's his false confidence. It's his assurance that he can stand up for himself and fly to safety should the going get tough - and Rufio is the literal manifestation.

For Horuss, it's his 'renaissance man' projection. It's his showcase of absolute perfection and ideal highblooded taste - and his alters and therian identity are the literal manifestation. (However poorly executed it was, and oh boy was it poorly executed and oh boy was it ableist.)

For this, they're prone to subsequently use their Aspect as a defense mechanism in a more passive manner than the acerbic Knights who prefer to fight with it.

Jake hides behind his fantasies, Tavros runs away from everything he can't face and Horuss pretends he can't hear the sound of Rufioh breaking up with him.

And, of course, as everyone will tell you - this comes with a vast well of potential. Pages are not uniquely powerful or the 'strongest class' like some people would have you believe, but it is true that upon undergoing development, they become incredibly confident in that Aspect. It just happens to be a long journey that no Page fully completes on-screen.

It is learning to accept their own lack of proficiency with their Aspect, drop the mask and begin forging a more genuine relationship with it. Knights must learn to relax, Pages must learn to stop relaxing. It's almost like a little inversion of their active:passive roles, if you want to see it like that!

Point D. Practical function.

Pages... yeah, this is really fucking obvious. Look at Jake. Look at that thing he does. You know? The gigantic shield of pure Hope energy he generates when his full potential is tapped into.

That's what a Page does. They tap into the well of their Aspect to use it as a great shield, making their defense of themselves through their Aspect literal. And, yeah, that's pretty goddamn powerful!

It's like they're meant to embody the little 'sidekick' role in shonen. Koichi Hirose. Koichi Hirose is a Page.

So, there we have it. The classes of compensation. I'll be putting out individual analyses of all of these class combinations soon-ish once the main seven posts are out, so be looking forward to that! I'll be back with you soon wiht the second part of this: Mages and Seers.

And that should be fun, 'cause I am one.

Take care.

[cgtg]

DOOM PLAYERZ ONLY

as with the prev polls: if you consider multiple, i suggest going for the one u feel aligned with currently/most often, which one u wanna represent in a poll like this, whichever has the most compelling role/narrative, whatever works for U. classpecting is very subjective, and fluid for a lot of people.

i actively encourage discussion in the replies of what your class and aspect mean to u. simple or lengthy, i wanna hear it :J

excluding master classes bc no space for em, sorry.

for those who cant vote: i’d appreciate u passing the poll along. also, i’ll post updates throughout the week on how it’s going so everyone can have a peek inside. thank u

[homestucksimplified]

The 12 Classes of Doom.

“Doom is the Aspect of inevitability, destiny, fate, conformity… Doom Players are known to be good listeners, people who understand and will empathize, even if they don’t know how to fix many issues. They seem to be okay with fate, with the way things work, with both contentment and pain. Doom Player Sollux knew that he was going to die, and he accepted it, knowing nothing could be done about it. Doom can be heavily emotional”.

“Doom is a poetic Aspect, and it’s extremely interesting, although rarely depicted in the comic. A Doom Player’s struggle might be about acceptance, a doubt about how it all is supposed to work. It is realistic and skeptical, not always pessimistic instead. Doom can be stability, having an outlook on life that is healing in their own way. I have heard from a Doom Player that “the Life-Doom Aspect pair is the facet of a person that deals with healing. While Life heals through change and improvement, Doom heals through acceptance and adjustment”. This difference is sometimes described as “the vent friend” (Doom) and “the advice friend” (Life). Life is the opposite Aspect to Doom, and it is serving and helpful”.

Sburb Players each have a combination of an Aspect and a Class. Aspects are understood to represent what a player’s goals and actions in life are caused by. A Class is within an Aspect and understood to represent the way they deal with their Aspect.

The Sburb Classes are Maid, Page, Mage, Knight, Rogue, Sylph, Seer, Thief, Heir, Bard, Prince, and Witch. (Lord and Muse*)

(*Classes Lord and Muse seem to only be possible in either Cherub society or in two-player sessions. They are very absolute and it’s rare for a human to identify with their descriptions. I will have to leave them out here and only write about the remaining twelve :)

Adding the Classes to the Aspect of Doom will result in twelve God Tiers. My analyses of them are as follows:

1st God Tier: Witch of Doom

Witch is the Active Class of manipulation. Witches are known to “control” their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Witch of Doom, specifically, would be one of the most repressed people in their lives, always shutting off what should be natural (though they would not be blind to it, they’re not naive about what fate is supposed to bring, they simply no not want to accept that it is true). Witches are characterized by rebellion, and Doom’s rebellion is against fate, the condemnation, sometimes even death. It is impossible to escape from your Aspect but they try their best, but does escaping from destiny not end up becoming your destiny?

Witches of Doom are the most frightened of Witches, but they’re also probably the strongest. I can see them being good liars, and pretty optimistic people, maybe trying to hide the realism or nihilism that might be building up inside them, begging to be seen. They would want to appear more as a Life Player, be helpful and free from destiny and/or suffering. It is through accepting suffering that they will become well-developed Doom Players.

2nd God Tier: Heir of Doom

Heir is the Passive Class of manipulation. Heirs are known to “influence” their Aspect or through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. An Heir of Doom, specifically, would passively manipulate fate in a way that might be shown as “coping”, maybe tricking themselves and those around them into believing the opposite of the truth, for example, that everything will be okay when in reality they know it won’t. It can also be the opposite, if they are mostly negative; they could bring people to believe that a perfectly safe and fine situation will actually end in great tragedy. They don’t do this on purpose all the time, though, and unlike Witches, they have more control of that power. It’s not only their way of dealing with fate, it is also what they are naturally inclined to do. The challenge in an Heir of Doom’s life would be not being in control of what is to come.

Heir of Doom is a canon Homestuck God Tier. Mituna Captor is the character that holds that title.

3rd God Tier: Mage of Doom

Mage is the Active Class of knowledge. Mages are known to “understand” their Aspect or through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Mage of Doom, specifically, would be aware of everyone’s fates and their own as well. I guess in a non-fantasy world that would be through “connecting the dots” and great observation skills. Mages are the most aware of where they are and of what their Aspect means, so Mages of Doom would be completely accepting of, you know, acceptance itself. In subtle cases they might be realistic people who don’t try to defeat their doom, and in extreme cases they might be people who are completely in peace with the fact that they are going to die. It will depend from Player to Player, but Doom will usually have a connection with suffering. Mages of Doom would be understanding of everyone’s suffering, maybe the perfect empaths. Their mind would never be focused on fixing the inevitable, they only accept it as it is; because if it’s meant to go this way, it’s for a good reason. They don’t go against fate.

I like to believe a Mage of Doom would read this and go “yeah. Guess I’m a Mage of Doom then”.

Mage of Doom is a canon Homestuck God Tier. Sollux Captor is the character that holds that title.

4th God Tier: Seer of Doom

Seer is the Passive Class of knowledge. Seers are known to “study” their Aspect or through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Seer of Doom, specifically, would analyse fates and what they might be, what might be hidden behind them, what the reasons for them might be… They are analysts, like every Seer, but of what wouldn’t really appeal to others; of death, suffering, drama, the inevitability of many aspects of life. Seers of Doom would be really interesting people with many interesting hobbies. I can see them, like some of the Time Players, enjoying collecting bones, or rocks that not everyone would notice on the beach. They are probably drawn to endings, and I mean this in the most innocent way. I can connect Doom and Time pretty often, because both overlap when talking about finality; Time for the rush reason and Doom for the fate reason. Does that make sense? Seers of Doom might be really good at understanding how something is going to end, studying situations to figure out motives. What differs them the most from Mages is that they would watch from afar and not feel as intimate with destiny as Mages would.

I don’t know why, but “Mary On A Cross” by Ghost gives me Seer of Doom vibes.

5th God Tier: Thief of Doom

Thief is the Active Class of stealing. Thieves are known to “take” from their Aspect and through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Thief of Doom, specifically, would take advantage of their own ideas of destiny to try to benefit other areas of their life. I see the stealing classes as the most unrelated classes to their Aspects, it is harder for me to figure out who is a Thief or a Rogue, but I can tell that most Thieves are tempted to steal “for themselves”. This has never meant they are self-focused or self-fulfilling, it just means they are less naturally inclined to sacrifice themselves in the name of others. Thieves are usually very comfortable in their Aspects, not ever doubting it, and instead taking every chance they have to perfect it. In a concrete way, a Thief of Doom would, for example, use other’s pessimistic moments to lecture them about it, showing off their certainty in whatever destiny they believe is coming to them. Being comfortable in their Aspect, they would not be affected by suffering as much, they would feel at ease with pessimism. They are confident that if it is the right thing, it’s going to benefit them one day.

6th God Tier: Rogue of Doom

Rogue is the Passive Class of stealing. Rogues are known to “redistribute” their Aspect or through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Rogue of Doom, specifically, would be either defined by sweetness or by incapability. Let me explain, Rogue is a Class that is described to be giving, and with this particular Aspect, it could mean sweet but also dangerous things. A Rogue of Doom might be a great listener, giving away their time to empathize with people or make them feel heard at least, but they might also have extreme sides, like (taking the Aspect more literally) leaving their fate in others’ hands or even being killed by them, due to their own incapability to center their Aspects on themselves.But this being said, every God Tier has macabre interpretations that are not great to think about, but this one stood out to me. Being a Rogue of Doom doesn’t guarantee that a person will leave their destiny up to others, but it facilitates it.

7th God Tier: Knight of Doom

Knight is the Active Class of utilizing. Knights are known to “handle” their Aspect and through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Knight of Doom, specifically, would be the biggest stereotype of Doom, pessimistic and used to suffering and being in the middle of the action. “The action”, in the Doom Aspect, can mean death of relatives, for example, and a Knight of Doom might be used to dealing with that. (This characteristic is also present in Knights of Time!) Otherwise, it can mean constantly having to handle and/or explain inevitability to others. Knights might not be the biggest fans of their Aspect, but they will accept it and not even complain that much. This is an interesting fact in Doom too, would they accept… acceptance?

The song “As the World Caves In” reminds me of this God Tier.

8th God Tier: Page of Doom

Page is the Passive Class of utilizing. Pages are known to “rise” their Aspect or through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Page of Doom, specifically, would carefully and sometimes accidentally deal with the sensitive topics of suffering, death, finality of all things. It will all naturally come to them, in a way they really have no control or awareness over, and they will accept and accept and just handle everything because that’s the only thing they can do. Differently from Knights, they might feel like they’re useless in relation to the inevitability of change. Their main challenge will be learning how they are balanced in whatever chaos of destiny is happening around them. Pages have the potential of being the strongest Class when they learn the patterns of how they deal and how they should deal with their Aspect. I can see a Page of Doom just feel like they are following and not adding anything to the world, because things always happen without their input so how are they affecting anything? (If there’s any Page of Doom reading this, it’s not true; we are all affecting the world.)

9th God Tier: Maid of Doom

Maid is the Active Class of construction. Maids are known to “create” their Aspect or through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Maid of Doom, specifically, would create their own fates! Maids are MADE of their Aspect, Maids of Doom are made of destiny and the ideas of suffering and comformity! Though it is the Active Class of construction, it is also a Class that serves, so it is also important to note that Maids of Doom would do anything to benefit destiny, whatever it might be. They are not the class that knows, they are the class that is.

I find Maids of Doom interesting, because how do you create something that to most others, just comes along on its own? Well, Maids have their technique of building, they will do what it takes until they feel like they are doing their job in a satisfying way. A Maid of Doom might be obsessed with living a perfectly spontaneous life, if that makes sense. They are attending to fate and building themselves from it!

10th God Tier: Sylph of Doom

Sylph is the Passive Class of construction. Sylphs are known to “build” their Aspect or through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Sylph of Doom, specifically, would passively work with fate in order to make it easier to deal with, and then build upon it. I can see them as controlling and bossy about the Aspect. To use a random example, I can see them getting angry at someone who gives them advice, because that is not how Doom works. It’s inevitable and unchangeable, and it is the right thing to follow. I always see Sylphs as possessive of their Aspects, like they are the only ones who can take care of it, even if abstractedly. A Sylph of Doom would make their own interpretations of what their doom should be (maybe even macabrely, how their end should be) and will live their lives with those opinions very close to them at night.

11th God Tier: Prince of Doom

Prince is the Active Class of destruction. Princes are known to “wreck” their Aspect and through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Prince of Doom, specifically, would seem pretty edgy. They’d want to be as positive as Life Players, but would fail miserably and fall back into their inevitable pessimism about inevitability. Unhealthy Princes try to escape from their Aspect, and everyone starts unhealthy. They would be constantly worried and angry at their own destiny, and would be awfully aware of it (Mage is the Class of knowledge, but Prince is the one of awareness!) despite their attempts. Destruction can be literal, in this case it might be breaking objects related to fate, like breaking the weapon that is trying to kill you, “biting the hand that feeds you”.

I like to use the song Call Me What You Like by Lovejoy for this God Tier. Especially “I’m not paranoid, I’m a realist; I know you’re gonna kill me”. I also like to say that, while fate is the correct and natural thing to most Classes, to Princes of Doom, it is the wrongest path of all.

12th God Tier: Bard of Doom

Bard is the Passive Class of destruction. Bards are known to “deconstruct” their Aspect or through their Aspect, both literally and figuratively. A Bard of Doom, specifically, would not purposefully ruin fate’s plans, but would definitely cause that ruin. Think of the term “back to black”, and the inevitability of going back to old patterns and to what happens spontaneously. Bards have a hard time accepting their Aspects, and can go through weird and unbelievable phases with it. This particular Bard could have a complicated relationship with the fact that everything ends, and other times that some things are infinite, they might at one time be okay with death and at another lose their minds about it. Regarding fate, they don’t know they’re against it, but everything they do works in favor to annulate it. Like Princes, they might prefer the idea of belonging to the opposite Aspect (Life), being more positive and less complicated and ever-changing.

[yogsandchaos]

They say a plague rat is a Doom to us all, but THIS time he's pretty sure this will be the right thing, or at least, it will be the right thing for for the only one he cares about

[the-crown-and-the-sword]

“In the father, and the son, and the goddamned spirit—

“Heavy is the head that carries the crown, the name that carries the legacy, the mind that carries the knowledge, the heart that carries the pain.”

Presenting ; KADEN MERSA SOLARA

CROWN PRINCE OF SOLARA ; MIDDLE CHILD OF THE ROYAL FAMILY ; “The Spare Prince”

— WOO! Nice to meet ya, beautiful. Or handsome. Whatever! Anyways, I'm Kaden. You can call me Kay, or whatever nickname you want. I'm...19 years old! Funny, heh? I'm the middle child, and the spare heir since my older brother went missing.

I guess that's all? Well, I have blonde-ish hair, not really. More like platinum white hair. And I have hazel eyes! Isn't that amazing? And I dress a little but like those knights off guard, I was never one for rules.

“The hands that carry the sword of victory are tainted with blood.”

“But they carry victory, yes?”

Announcing ; ELIAS REYER CONSTANTINE

THE KNIGHT ; THE SPARE'S PAIR ; “Knight of Doom”

— Hm. Pleasure to meet you, not. I'm Elias, the Prince's knight. And technically his bestfriend. I don't know anything about my family, unfortunately. But I've been studying and serving in the palace for over a decade. I'm 22, no, I'm not old.

I'm taller than most since I stand at a height of 6’2. I have neck length dark hair, a little shaggy if you may, but rest assured it's in proper care. Unlike someone...That aside, no I'm not emotionally stunted. I just like keeping it forward. If Kayden tells you I dress more aristocratic than he does, tell him to fuck off f’me.

tags 🎀

#crown of blood - kaden

#knight of doom - elias

#the pair of spares - duo!

[homestuck-hell]

Lutura Raynie, Knight of Doom, Prospit

She/Her

The girl to comfort you when you're drunk in the bathroom at 3 am

Often ruins poignant statements by ending them with lol

Alternia may be doomed but that's not going to stop her from living life to the fullest

Land of Comforts and Tribulation

[publiusscipiospqr]

Old randomly generated Classpects

Prince of Time + Mage of Blood

Maid of Rage + Sylph of Breath

Rogue of Light + Knight of Doom

Thief of Void + Seer of Hope

Page of Heart + Bard of Life

If you have any idea on how this session would go, please let me know!

[giftofclasspects]

doom playlists! below the cut!

maid of doom

page of doom

mage of doom

knight of doom

rogue of doom

sylph of doom

seer of doom

thief of doom

heir of doom

bard of doom

prince of doom

witch of doom

[seldomdrawncherubs]

im a knight of doom. probably not a great classpect to have

UU: oh dear, yoU’ve got it all wrong! the knight of doom is important!

UU: for one thing, some have theorized that the knight is what the session lacks. this means that yoUr session woUld have an abUndance of life!

UU: which is good, some might say, bUt yoU need to kill enemies for grist in sbUrb! how will yoU do that with no doom at all?

UU: this may mean that yoU have to do the Unpleasant task of dispatching enemies yoUr fellow players cannot. this is where the doom aspect is Unfortunately present. doom represents martyrdom, sacrifice, and far too many things that may take a toll on yoU.

UU: this is why i believe doom players seek mind players or life players. they need someone to Understand them or to show them that there is still life in a world that saddles them with an Unbearable task.

UU: bUt make no mistake: yoU are, ironically, vital to the team. if a session has a doom player, it is becaUse the team needs yoU and yoUr oUtlook.

UU: the knight protects the space player in frog breeding. doom might prevent the frogs from mUltiplying oUt of control before yoU can properly create a genesis frog.

UU: yoU can also make shields of death energy at the god tier! some people would probably consider that to be very badass!

UU: and remember to talk to yoUr friends. being a knight can be very painfUl, bUt yoU should not have to strUggle alone.

***

uu: HELL FuCKING YES.

uu: EMBRACE YOuR ASPECT. DOOM PLAYERS ARE EXTREMELY POWERFuL

uu: uNTIL THEY LOSE THEIR POWERS. SBuRB NEVER WANTS TO LET COOL PEOPLE HAVE ANY FuN.

uu: SuCKS TO BE YOu I GuESS

uu: THIS MAKES YOu A PERFECT PLAYER OF SBuRB

uu: YOu BuRN YOuR POWER. YOu GO GOD TIER AND GET IT BACK. YOu WIN. YOu PROFIT.

uu: NONE OF THE DOOM PLAYERS HERE DID THAT BuT YOu SHOuLD CHANGE THAT. IMAGINE KILLING. WITH A THOuGHT. IMAGINE WITHERING FORESTS. FOR THE SAKE OF OuR DESTRuCTIVE CAuSE.

uu: KNIGHTS ARE INCREDIBLE. THEY ARE. ALPHA GAMERS. JuST DON’T GET CAuGHT. IN A BuNCH OF ANGST.

uu: THEY ARE ALWAYS GETTING CAuGHT IN A BuNCH OF ANGST.

uu: SOMEONE GET DAVE AND TELL HIM TO STOP MOPING. HE COuLD GO GOD TIER LIKE HIS STuPID SISTER. AND SuRPASS HER WITH THE POWER OF TIME. AND THE POWER. OF NOT HAVING A uSELESS CLASSPECT.

uu: FIND SOMEONE LIKE HIS BRO TO TRAIN YOu. AND YOu WILL BE uNSTOPPABLE.

[douchebagsdoingclasspectingnow]

hi there! i saw your classpect of diemen and was wondering if youd be interested in analyzing the other half of the first friendsim for ardata. i love that her sign is aligned to doom but im not sure what class she would have

Hello there! You're lucky because weeks ago i did an analysis on her on one of my friend groups on discord so i already have kind of a baked response but basically i believe she's a Knight of Doom.

The Knight is someone who protects/preserves the Aspect for themselves by hiding it from others normally because they have a certain insecurity about it. I often call them the "tsunderes" of the classpecting group because they always have the Aspect in some way shape or form but really don't want to admit it. You'd may THINK they're more inclined to their opposite aspect on a surface view until you know them better and you notice that this is only a façade to hide who they truly are. I love using Karkat as an example because he's the most obvious one, talking like he always despises his friends but being always worried if their friendship will last.

Meanwhile Doom is about Obedience. Like i said earlier, Doom's goal is not to screw the person over only because they're 'doomed', the goal is to reinforce the lesson that some things are out of your control, and you should follow it not because you want to, not even because you don't want to, but because you're forced to. That's why it is the opposite of Life, the Aspect that deals with you having enough power and influence to change everything around you.

Now, i know what you're thinking. Ardata doesn't sound like a Life player at all, and i do agree on the literal sense. But Ardata isn't hiding Doom by being all positive and bubbly, she's hiding Doom in a sense of she's making it seem like she's not FORCED to do what she does. She even "incorporates" her persona in the way she acts, in a similar fashion to the metaphoric "mask" that all Knights have.

The thing about Ardata is that she's always faking enjoyment with the content she's making and making it seem like she only does it because she wants to. By faking her laughter and acting like society expects her to, she's hiding the fact that she's only doing it for the sake of Obedience (Doom).

Knights hold a fear of exposing their Aspect to the world because they normally think that society will judge them in some way. That's where the "protecting themselves through the Aspect" comes into play. Ardata pretty much says it right in front of you. That also says about the Doom aspect as well, as she keeps herself from doing what she wants in order to obey the laws of the society she's in.

Basically, she's protecting Doom (in this case, the fabricated 'norm' of how Ceruleans should behave and the fact she's only doing it because she feels the need to obey) by making it seem like she does it naturally, because she likes it.

Also just a note, although Ardata only does the content she does out of feeling obligated to do so i wouldn't say she HATES it either. It's more like she's dessensitized by it (as probably all trolls are, there's a child troll who literally uses troll blood as paint) and wanted to do something else. She does it mostly because she FEELS LIKE she's following orders.

Oh and also, Diemen's bad ending might count as her protecting you through Doom by disposing his body.

[yourfaveisclasspected]

THE IRONCLAD is a KNIGHT of DOOM!

Requested by @hoodie-sys!

[farrvl]

Works as the personal guard of the heir to the throne

Cerera worked on Dionir appearance

She is sociable, but hides her own experiences and emotions, simply not considering it necessary

She will happily replace any part of her body with a robotic one if it gives more benefits

Hardworking

Pessimistic

[en8y]

[IMAGE ID: two horizontal flags with nine stripes; each flag has the doom aspect symbol in the center; a circular black skull with small spines poking out of it. it is outlined in medium green. the middle stripe is twice as large as the rest of them, which are equally sized. the first flag has these top three colors: dark warm purple, bright orange, and medium warm purple. the second flag has these top three colors: dark maroon, warm dark grey, and desaturated dark green. each flag has these bottom six stripes: medium green, off-white, medium green, dull green, dark green, and black. END ID.]

doomasiwitch: a gender connected to being a witch of doom; this gender is connected to the doom aspect, doom aspect aesthetics, magic aesthetics, witch aesthetics, dark magic aesthetics, and occultarity!

knidoomasic: a gender connected to being a knight of doom; this gender is connected to the doom aspect, doom aspect aesthetics, military aesthetics, knight aesthetics, and rankhood.

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[ultra-clashpects]

THE KNIGHT-THIEF OF DOOM

The Knight-Thief of Doom is someone who is constantly fighting their inner dialogue and all of their wants and their needs, being pulled in two different directions by their brain and they can never really get a break from themself. The Knight-Thief of Doom understands suffering and what it’s like to be mistreated by life, constantly thrown around and getting in trouble, usually probably not even being their own fault.

The Knight-Thief of Doom wants to help others by protecting and serving Doom, but they also want to be selfish and steal all the Doom for themself, to take the cruel fates’ from other people and to take the acceptance and knowledge that comes with suffering, but because of all of this they will tend to be more empathetic than most people. The Knight-Thief of Doom is cunning and clever, armed with the understanding of what it means to be damned, but they fight through and against their aspect with their aspect, freeing others from their own Doom and collecting it, so that they may protect it and do their best to serve it however it needs or wants.

The Knight-Thief of Doom is part Knight of Doom, which means that they are an understanding person when it comes to being hurt by other people and life as a whole, but they’re always there to help you stand back up and dust yourself off after you’ve fallen because they do not give up easily and they will encourage you to not either. They are relentless and unstoppable once they put their mind to something, and once they sink their teeth into something they won’t let go, so you know that they will be by your side through thick and thin, going down with the ship when and if things come, push and shove.

The Knight-Thief of Doom is part Thief of Doom, which means that they take other people’s misfortune and discomfort for themselves and their own pleasure, usually finding ways to make people uncomfortable or put them into a Doomed situation for their own enjoyment, and no matter how much Doom they have, they can never be stopped from making the most of a situation. They are likely a pessimistic person, although charismatic and confident, but they have worries that they bury deep inside of themselves, and they understand what being responsible is and what their responsibilities are, but do they ever act responsible in the first place? No, they don’t.

[aortaobservatory]

YESS PLS POST KNIGHT OF DOOM ANALYSIS

Alright, here you go!

The analysis written below is my own writing, analysis, and thoughts. The statements are my own analysis, but they may function as a “fill in the blank” statement for you to create your own interpretation of the classpect as you please.

-aortaObservatory

Knight of [Doom]:

Utilize - Too Much Skill with Doom

A player extremely skilled with [Acceptance and Sympathy], and actively uses every part of [Compliance and Wisdom] as a tool to defend themselves and those around them

A Knight of Doom would be very skilled in using their wisdom born of compliance within the system they are held to, to protect and defend the acceptance of others and the sympathy towards them.

Knights are extremely adept with their aspect, their driving effort to protect it and others through it. They are loyal to their aspect's cause and naturally gifted with it, using it as a tool to achieve whatever they set themself to. Their challenge is to learn how to be less harsh on themselves, to accept and learn from failure, and to accept the assistance of others when they need it.

Inverse Classpect Analysis of Knight

Knight of Doom: Doom (Acceptance, Compliance, Wisdom, Sympathy) is actively there. Too much skill with aspect causes innate utilization of it.

Inverse: Rogue of Life

By being actively skilled in Doom (Acceptance, Compliance, Wisdom, Sympathy), the Knight passively gives Life (Growth, Perseverance, Empathetic, Healing) to others as they utilize Doom (Acceptance, Compliance, Wisdom, Sympathy).

Value of Life (Growth, Perseverance, Empathetic, Healing) in others is given by the Knight's skill with Doom (Acceptance, Compliance, Wisdom, Sympathy).

[homestuck-hell]

Baklar Tahten, Knight of Doom, Derse

He/they

Sweet custom kicks

Did his hair himself

They're cool, they're confident, what more could you want?

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