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READ: NOT ARGUING ABOUT CREATED SYSTEMS. THIS IS ABOUT DNI'S.

You're the only person who has ever and will ever use the term "rad endo" :(

nobody pro created systems are going to block the "dni radendos" tag because it just. it isnt a term. saying 'pro radendos' dni is talking to absolutely nobody, because radendos don't exist. if you want pro created systems to DNI, use the actual right terms. pro created systems.

you are like the radfems, who took "mens right activists" (a misogynistic group that advocates for violence against women), and decided to make the term "trans rights activists". have you ever noticed that radfems refer to trans people and supporters only as TRA? for no reason? only because it makes them uncomfortable? in order to compare them to somebody else, who's terrible? have you ever noticed that you're doing that exact same thing?

you are doing the exact same thing.

what you are doing is like them.

why?

what is the point?

just change your DNI to be accurate to who you want to avoid you. people who find your blog will have no idea what you mean.

and its just rude to call people things that not only dont fit them, but aren't what they want to be called.

Can people stop with the rumors!!!! I have never and will never send anons!!!! And I have never and will never interact with someone I’ve blocked!!!! I block ableists for a reason!!! Because I don’t wanna see them!!! If I get one more ask about these stupid rumors I’m locking the account until you all learn to find a different scapegoat!!!

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"why are you mad at me for slapping at you!! I could've killed you instead!!"

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syscourse hot take: a lot of the time, when people say "shared spaces are good but we also need separate spaces" in syscourse, they are, whether knowingly or not, perpetuating the binary of "trauma survivors" vs. "non-trauma survivors," or "CDD" vs. "non-CDD"

and yes, both binaries are used to be harmful. yes, even the CDD one. we HAVE separate spaces for these already, and they are constantly used to gatekeep and force those who don't fit that binary into one camp or the other.

I will believe that separate communities in the plural and system communities are good when said separate communities widely accept mixed-origin and otherwise non-binary systems that can't or won't "pick a side."

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Honestly curious...

And for those who said yes...

Pop quiz: Can you name me the article that fakeclaims traumagenic systems?

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"oh thats epic!! i should reblog this!!!"

*scrolls down*

'pro endos dni'

"aw man :("

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*pours boiling water over the takes so the aren’t freezing anymore*

NOOOOO MY TAKES!

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what Sophie supporters in our ask box seem to think we're like:

evil.... irredeemable.... Sophie!!! Sophie bad!!! Sophie terrible!!! rawr!!!! evil Sophie!!!!!!!! sophie bad!!!! Sophie bad things!!!!!! Sophie negative connotation!!!! hatred!!!! sophie (*looks up synonyms*) rotten!!! unsatisfactory!!!!! unpleasant!!!!

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oh that person actually agrees with that take :[

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“fake disorder cringe” has us losing our mind so we're going to just say a few things:

systems can have alters younger (and older) than their bodily age.

systems can have nonhuman alters and introjects from controversial or modern-day medias.

systems can have alters that aren't the same gender as the body or use different labels.

systems can have high alter counts.

systems can want to change their appearance (using wigs, makeup, fake piercings, etc) depending on who is fronting.

systems can post about their personal experiences with their disorder and be open about having the disorder.

systems can have a complex headspace or no headspace at all.

systems can have varying degrees of dissociation and memory loss.

systems are not always aware of who is fronting or who they are.

systems can refer to their alters as anything they feel comfortable with, whether it be alters, headmates, parts, or even something like rats.

systems can realize they're a system at an early age or be unaware/in denial for a long time.

systems can go to parties, drink, smoke, and do “normal” things that singlets do.

system alters can have positive triggers.

systems can have times where their alters rapidly switch or their fronting room is crowded/overwhelming.

system alters can have varying levels of communication with other alters.

i shouldn't even have to say this one, but systems can have dyed hair??

tldr: if you don't have the disorder, don't speak on it. fake-claiming does more harm than good.

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Hey. Kinda hypocritical, I know, but I think its kind of a dick move to make a blog that's solely "callout posts" based on people being supportive or unsupportive of certain things. I'm not in like, the most stable mood right now, but doing that is a one way road to getting somebody's life ruined, and there's literally no reason to do it.

I don't give a shit what kind of person someone is.

I don't care what mental illness someone has, and how enthusiastic they are about recovering from it.

Wowwwww, no way? this system online, which is a largely traumagenic community, and substantial amount of these people have sustained abuse and trauma,,

no shit that they're going to be mentally unhealthy?

does it actually matter if somebody doesn't want to recover? does it actually matter if somebody does something that is mentally unhealthy for them?

does it matter to anyone else but them? because the person that is a problem towards is them?

if they need to be exposed for something, doesn't that mean it is hidden? shouldn't that be what you want? would you rather they be public or private about their mental illness? or are both fine, since you can "call them out" for it either way?

just some thoughts.

and people who are actively harming others – yes, obviously that's bad. but is it any helpful towards the victims for Tumblr users to know that somebody on a completely different social media hurt somebody on that completely different social media?

doesn't that make it more visible that that person can be victimized?

doesn't that show to others that that person can be manipulated?

are you really doing anything to help?

or is it just content?

is this just content for your notes?

for your notifications?

is this important?

or is it something to do?

something to pass the time?

something to feel morally righteous?

i think that those kind of posts just... suck generally. everywhere.

systemscringe. fdc. system callouts. what's the point? who cares?

ruin a life, and what's your crown? notes? upvotes?

all for exposing... a mental illness?

im tired.

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yeah!! I think the main reasons that we've seen/heard would be:

1. OCD

2. Alterhuman, otherkin,, some form of identity euphoria

3. Something tied to previous traumas

i think typing quirks are usually related to OCD or compulsions in general. oftentimes telling someone to break a typing quirk is like telling them to just stop having compulsions, which doesnt. work.

From the conversations on my original post (plus one with my partner) there seems to be a lot of reasons alters have typing quirks. For the particular alter we mentioned, it's tied to trauma around trying to be the "perfect child." But yeah for some people it's almost certainly OCD.

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pov you checked the syscourse tag

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you should go get a snack

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I find the infantilization of endos to be very weird. They're kids who don't know any better. They're uneducated. Etc. I find it upsetting as someone who's an endo. Just let us chill damn

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hey.

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wait actually? we fit this

the only real ecosystems are ones made of plants and animals? i thought this was common sense

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ohhhhhhhhh..... wow we're ridiculously bad at paying attention to and following DNI's

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yeah!!

Me, a singlet earnestly trying to learn about systems:

Every single traumagenic system for some fucking reason: FUCK endos all my homies HATE endos

???????????

Anyway endogenic systems are literally valid idk what’s wrong with people