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When, why, & who decided "number names are only RAMCOA"?

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Reminder that the majority of peer reviewed research that supports the existence of endogenic plurality as existing has been done on created plurality(especially tulpamancy). There have been brain scans that support a difference in activity in the brains of tulpamancers and singlets(it's still in peer review but the researchers have discussed their findings publicly). If you want to claim science has proven otherwise... links or it didn't happen :)

Edit proof the study that's in peer review exists:

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It's also important to note that willogenic was a term/concept that started within the plural community. Willomancy more likely to be practiced by those who are already systems. It's more likely to be used to fill roles, elaborate fragments, and stuff of that nature than other forms of created plurality such as tulpamancy.

We have a quetion, (Spelling mistake is purposeful lol) what’s the difference between parogenic and willogenic? We have some created headmates by artisans and/or fragment assembling and like, for us both of them are thoughtform in a way? Is there a difference? What is it? /genq

Hi Anon!!

From our understanding, willogenic is a subterm of parogenic!!

Parogenic includes all types/methods of created headmates, tulpamancy, thoughtforms, soulbonding, and so on. Whereas willogenic is, as described by Pluralpedia, "a system that was purposefully created or willed into existence, with no connections to tulpamancy."

It's just a matter of more specific verbage for different experiences!!

-Jay (💀)

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one aspect of system and plural communities i wish was discussed upon more often is that such micro cultures are not monolithic.

yes, we do know that from one media platform to another, there are different cultures.

but even here on tumblr, the culture formed by mutual circles older in age and more established in their system is different from younger systems.

and as a result, language usage does clash. the weight of the term fakeclaiming, for example, can hold either so little or so much weight. there's not a one true weight to such a word, as every system and plural micro culture is correct in their own definition. but communication failures will happen anyways due to this, and it's no one's fault.

it is like how it's not really the fault of a usamerican and an australian for not delivering the right thing when they ask each other for a lemonade.

so i think that it would be beneficial, before judging the entirety of plural or system spaces, to perhaps consider if all spaces are like what you're familiar with. if the entire community is monolithic. or if there are issues within the specific groups you run in to.

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It obviously wasn't your intention but it was definitely implied that you were saying it about all CDD systems in saying its a feature of CDD systemhood. The way you phrased that implies that it is a requirement. Especially when following it up with directly stating not all of your alters are going to be traumagenic like it is a fact.

Like it's ok if an individual is that way or sees it that way but the way you phrased it made it seem like you were generalizing it about the entire group. It's obvious this wasn't your intention and I appreciate the clarification but was just trying to explain where that assumption is coming from since your original post does read like you are talking about all CDD systems. Which no biggie since it was obviously a mistake but it may be good to add clarification to the original post.

Your reminder that yes, even CDD systems have endogenic and created alters. That's literally just a feature of CDD systemhood. Not all of your alters are going to be traumagenic and that's okay. The non-disordered system community and the CDD system community have more in common than you would think, and I think we should celebrate how our communities have helped each other and meshed together in so many ways 🫂

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where did circular system go

This is a copy pasted message of what they wanted to say on this.

Circular had to take a break due to the drama in syscourse recently. Several syscoursers have been doing incredibly triggering things lately, and being called a bigot, being told they’re supporting harassment, and their victimhood constantly being fakeclaimed finally was the last straw. They’ve privated most of their blogs and, while they plan to return someday, it won’t be until they’re capable of being in this space, and it’ll definitely be different than how they were engaging.

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Anyway. Not all willogenics are endogenic. Willomancy is not something typically done "for fun." And it's not typically done by singlets. It is a practice based in the plural community for creating headmates more than creating systems. It can be used to elaborate fragments or make splits easier. It's not about singlets playing make believe with plurality for fun.

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Searches CDD tags for the offending BAH blog. Sees it's a radqueer BAH blog. Sees it's run by a DID system. Oh no this is such a willogenic problem(sarcasm).

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Yes of course someone can be traumatized without developing a trauma disorder. That is the reason that PTSD can't be diagnosed until a month after the traumatic event. Because before that it's normal for people to still be recovering from the event. It can only be officially identified as disorder if the effect is long lasting. I guess there may also be cases of fitting some but not all criteria for the disorder but if trauma still has an effect over a month after the event there is a decent chance of a trauma disorder existing.

okay, question for syscourse.

do you think someone can have trauma without having PTSD/CPTSD/a trauma-based disorder? Why?

feel free to reblog with your answer or comment it I don't really care how you answer.

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Anyone free to reblog :)

If You Were a Fictional Character

I've seen a few moots doing this and it looked fun!

* Make this picrew of yourself

* Take this uquiz (How Fandom Would See You If You Were A Fictional Character)

...yeah that seems about right 😅🫠

Not sure who's done this already so tagging the besties @thetumblingmoron @redheadsramblings @woundedsoul12 @the-bear-and-his-sunbird @aurorabiggs @thepalehorsevictoria @kiir-do-faal-rahhe and anyone else who would like to play!

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Reminder that punitive justice just makes things worse. Anyway... have some kittens :)

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Gentle Reminder

CDDs have a suicide attempt rate of over 70%, and the vast majority have multiple attempts under their belt.

This is NOT a community where you should throw around "kys", EVER

Be better, be aware, be kind

Don't let anyone get away with that kind of behaviour.

It's never okay.

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A(n un)kind reminder 🌈

People who were mistaken about having a CDD are still members of the system community and become A VALUABLE RESOURCE for new and questioning systems.

Who better to help someone else figure it out than someone who thought they had it and were mistaken? We need more people willing to talk about it and explain what the differences are and how to recognize signs that everything might not be as it seems.

And they already know everything they need and know how to be respectful of systems. What more could you ask for?

We need to normalize being mistaken. It's okay.

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Only been listening to my own songs cycle in my brain so should definitely listen to something I didn't write again lol. And using this as our motivation to continue reading. We finally finished our first book this year and need to get back to our routine of reading at least 15 pages a day. (We're reading the Warriors books again)

Syscourse Break!

Today seems like a great day to let the tag go sit in a corner and not check it. I’d rather not look at all that.

Instead, let’s relax together. I’ve got a fun one:

What have you read or listened to recently? It can be a book, music, anything!

Today I carved out some time to read two graphic novels, both of which I greatly enjoyed! I’ve also listened to Sunflower from Post Malone again today. It’s been a bit! :P

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very silently oul🦉

oul (small, silent edition)

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i think most people in general are traumatized is a sentiment that does a disservice to the experiences of traumatized people. it's like saying well everyone's a little ocd or something. like yeah sure everyone experiences some adverse events in their lives and being alive is tough but there's a difference between that and like... being Traumatized to the degree of clinical significance. it's a pretty good way to invalidate and shut up abuse victims to say 'well most people are traumatized so'.

Thank you for reaching out. I'm really sorry if what I said came across as dismissive. That wasn't my intention at all.

When I said that most people are traumatized, I meant it in a serious and factual way, not as a throwaway comment like “everyone’s a little OCD.” Trauma is absolutely a real, life-altering experience. (We have PTSD and CPTSD, we know this first hand!) According to the National Institute of Mental Health, about 70% of American adults will experience some form of trauma in their lifetime. That’s a significant majority of the population, and it speaks to how widespread and systemic trauma is.

I understand your concern, especially given how often language about mental health gets misused or minimized. But my point was that trauma is more common than not, even among endogenic systems — because lack of trauma origins and having trauma are two separate things —and that reality deserves to be acknowledged. I appreciate you giving me the chance to explain.

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Um noticing the big T in traumatized there and kind of wanted to point out that in some cases of DID there isn't any big T trauma. There is no traumatic event that is significant enough on its own. It can be about the length of time that the little t traumas last for and the environment around them that effects the trauma response. That's part of the reason for C-PTSD to exist. Not having significant, easily identifyable trauma is normal with CDDs so acting like this is about big T trauma only feels weird.

All trauma is EQUALLY valid here. This is not meant to dismiss anyone.

i think most people in general are traumatized is a sentiment that does a disservice to the experiences of traumatized people. it's like saying well everyone's a little ocd or something. like yeah sure everyone experiences some adverse events in their lives and being alive is tough but there's a difference between that and like... being Traumatized to the degree of clinical significance. it's a pretty good way to invalidate and shut up abuse victims to say 'well most people are traumatized so'.

Thank you for reaching out. I'm really sorry if what I said came across as dismissive. That wasn't my intention at all.

When I said that most people are traumatized, I meant it in a serious and factual way, not as a throwaway comment like “everyone’s a little OCD.” Trauma is absolutely a real, life-altering experience. (We have PTSD and CPTSD, we know this first hand!) According to the National Institute of Mental Health, about 70% of American adults will experience some form of trauma in their lifetime. That’s a significant majority of the population, and it speaks to how widespread and systemic trauma is.

I understand your concern, especially given how often language about mental health gets misused or minimized. But my point was that trauma is more common than not, even among endogenic systems — because lack of trauma origins and having trauma are two separate things —and that reality deserves to be acknowledged. I appreciate you giving me the chance to explain.