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the way vi says cait you agree reblog

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Hello world! New arcane fan here!!

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I've been sitting on this interaction for a while but you know what why not post about it. I got to interact with Amanda Overton a few months back and she told me something in regards to the sexualities of Vi and Caitlyn that I found interesting.

She said "When people would ask me what the sexualities of the characters were after season 1 like I would initially let them know that we would confirm them in season 2. People would ask me what Caitlyn's sexuality is and we tried to make it clear in season 2 that she's a lesbian. She's attracted to women. I wanted people to experience those answers with the show so for most characters I would tell them 'You'll see in season 2'. But I didn't have the same problem with Vi because answering that question was easy. Vi's sexuality is Caitlyn. She's not interested in anyone else. She doesn't want anyone else. She loves Caitlyn."

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love AUs where AU powder and vi meet.. vi gives the best hugs fr

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something about caitlyn changing her bed curtains from green to violet

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I wish #arcane critical people would watch this video

@willatheewisp

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I love caitvi so much🥰🥰🥰

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caitvi celebrating cny 🧧🫶 (pls don’t judge me I forgor to post it here asjdysddg)

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the day fans learn to differentiate between “bad writing” and “things i personally didnt like” is the day i finally know peace

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Saying shimmer is like penicillin is laughable. I think a good example of an equivalent toxin to shimmer is botulinum. It’s not an addictive drug but a highly deadly nerve toxin produced by a type of bacteria, and is found in rotten meat. You wouldn’t think it’s used in medicine, but it’s what Botox is based on. Botox is botulinum but a very small dose so it would get rid of wrinkles and smoothen the face. But that doesn’t mean botulinum is not one of the most deadly toxins in the world and won’t kill you in a horrific way if you consume enough of it.

I’m comparing It to shimmer (I know it’s not a 1 to 1 equivalent) because like botulinum, it can be used for medicinal purposes in small doses, but it’s extremely damaging and harmful in high doses, and addictive on top of that. That’s why it’s so ridiculous that you are defending shimmer and comparing it to a fucking antibiotic that is nowhere near as dangerous as shimmer. The show makes it very clear that shimmer is a bad thing in Zaun and it’s not really up to debate. Just because it has some healing properties doesn’t make it good or a viable replacement to doctors or that is the only form of healthcare. The only reasons why Cait had to use shimmer to heal vi in the fissures is because she had no other choice and it was the only form of medicine down there.

Watch this unhinged mongoose gaslight baby blue and the audience into believing their crimes are on the same level in real time.

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fun prompt->artist cant stop thinking about it->fanart

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i find it heartbreaking that caitlyn wanted to be seen as more capable and be given more responsibility, and she wanted to be the change, and then, she was given all the power, but in a way and at a time that was all wrong. she was at her lowest, struggling with the rage and grief of losing her mother, unable to channel it in a way that wouldn't be destructive. and she didn't choose taking over - first it was her father giving her the kiramman key (to her protests), then it was ambessa putting her on the spot, so she couldn't refuse. it was the worst possible way for her to become head of house kiramman and commander.

this is what you asked for, heavy is the crown, indeed

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No, Caitlyn is not a fascist

As time passed after the ending of arcane I've come to realise that labelling Caitlyn Kiramman as a "dictator" is plain wrong and it heavily mischaracterizes her as a person who was so clearly manipulated by a woman in power.

Arcane writers have done everything they can to explain to the fandom that the gas was mostly used on chembarons and their goons. Obviously other people were caught in the crossfire and got poisoned from the gray, but this is nowhere near what the nazis were doing. And it is also NOT a valid reason to call her "KKKiramman"

Yes, she created checkpoints. Yes, she wanted Singed to be put in a dungeon. But - let's be real right now - she didn't do that out of her hatred for the poor people of Zaun. She did it because she wanted to avenge Jinx. All of her actions are caused by her grief, hate, guilt and loneliness.

You can argue that if she wasn't a fascist then she wouldn't do any of it and would've given up her power. But this actively ignores the grief she's going through. And also completely ignores the definition of fascism. What was she supposed to do? Just give up all of her assets and power when she was at her lowest? Beg on her knees for forgiveness? Just forget that her mother died a horrific death and forgive Jinx for everything?

Caitlyn actively despised how she was seen. Here's some quotes from S2:

When talking to maddie she said that she never thought this operation would go for so long. She didn't seem happy or malevolent about it - which would be true if she hated zaunites so much as you guys are painting her.

When Ambessa came to her Caitlyn accused Rictus of inciting violence against zaunites (after she became "the fascist dictator")

In the same dialogue said that there needs to be a reason to arrest someone.

Again, in the same dialogue - "Why is peace always the justification for violence?".

Actively acknowledged that she was manipulated and used as a pawn by Ambessa when she was talking to Vi.

No, her throwing that wooden boat is not abuse. I genuinely don't know HOW this is a real argument.

6. "Hating you...I've hated myself"

7. "No amount of good deeds can undo our crimes!" is the biggest one. She didn't say this about Jinx - she said it about herself.

I could go on and on listing you quotes from S2 but to be frank - this is not how character development works. You don't just say a bunch of words and magically become "better". You change how you act. And you don't magically become "worse" when you say something heinous.

Most of you have the ability to see nuance in Jinx's character. Why isn't the same for Cait? Is it because you just agree with her? Is it because you divide "good" and "bad" people by whether or not they agree with you?

What about Cait giving up her seat at the council for Sevika? What about her fighting her mentor just for the freedom of the people she supposedly hates? What about her asking zaunites to fight alongside her? What about her ratting out everything about Ambessa's defense in viktor's village AS SOON as she gets support from Vi and Jinx?

Obviously in real world it would seem that I argue for the "both sides" bullshit. I am not. And I really don't want you to think that I'm acting as superior because I'm able to see nuance in Caitlyn's arc. I want to show you that it is REALLY REALLY important not to dehumanize your enemies. Because

when you dehumanize nazis YOU BECOME ONE!

You NEED to be able to see them as humans so that you can see yourself in them and correct that. So that you see your friends and family in them. Because so many people realize they were living with racists/homophobes/transphobes/antisemites/bigots in general for their whole life only when the elections come. I want that to stop. And you can begin to do that by watching arcane one more time and not basing your opinion on something as fragile and unstable as a public opinion.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY SANJI

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Thank you for writing this. I love jinx as a character but she such a difficult person and a sister to deal with. It’s amazing vi was able to forgive her and still love her after all of that.

Honestly, every single one of Jinx's accusations against Vi is so hypocritical:

1) "I thought, maybe you could love me like you used to, even though I'm different".

She accuses Vi of not loving/accepting her as she is. This is already an absurd expectation, because first, Vi has no obligation to "accept her as she is" when she is doing all the horrible things that she does, and second, Vi actually does love her despite all her mistakes, it's Jinx herself who refuses Vi's offer to leave and start anew.

But it's also a completely hypocritical accusation: she wants Vi to accept her as she is, but she doesn't accept Vi as she is. Vi is a person who is not willing to murder innocents and also someone who cares about Caitlyn. But Jinx doesn't accept that about her sister. She wants Vi to change for her, she wants Vi to become a murderer and kill Caitlyn to prove her love for her, and when Vi refuses, she rejects Vi. So Jinx herself doesn't accept Vi as she is.

2) "Poisoning our air"

This is incredibly hypocritical coming from a person who spent years helping to poison the people of Zaun with shimmer, a drug that devastated Zaun. Vi and Caitlyn's use of the Grey at least was targeted against the chem-barons (the very people that were poisoning Zaun with Shimmer and that Jinx spent years helping), and the Grey is also not shown to be lethal. Silco spreading shimmer, on the other hand, was not targeted. He didn't sell shimmer in a controlled manner for its healing properties, he sold it in a widespread manner, getting people addicted, debilitated, and turning them into monsters that attack other people. And Jinx helped Silco do it. What she did is much worse than what Vi did, but apparently it's ok for Jinx to poison her own people.** (And that's not even mentioning all the other bad things against Zaun that Jinx helped happen by working with Silco, like the child slave labor, the killing of the Firelights and all other of Silco's crimes)

3) "Wish I was seeing things when you decided to throw in with the Piltie goons who murdered mom and dad"

Again, so hypocritical. Yes, Vi joined the enforcers. But she joined a team with an enforcer that she trusted (Caitlyn), and she didn't join anyone directly responsible for their parent's deaths. Jinx, on the other hand, actually joined the man directly responsible for the deaths of their adoptive family.** Not to mention that Jinx's actions are the main reason Vi joined the enforcers in the first place.

**By the way, I know that Jinx was a kid when she was taken in by Silco. But as an adult, we never see Jinx express remorse for working with him. On the contrary, we see her grieve him, smell his jacket and only ever think fondly of him, never criticizing him for his role in destroying Zaun. And while she was a kid when she was taken in, she continues helping him as an adult, she continues doing it even after Vi comes back and tries to help her, and it's also implied that Ekko tried to help her in the past and she refused (or if he didn't try, she still could have tried to ask for his help, she had somewhere else to go other than staying with Silco). She could have left Silco as an adult but didn't. As Ekko said, she works for Silco not because she needs to, but because she wants to, and she constantly seeks Silco's validation. So while I can understand that Jinx was a vulnerable kid that was manipulated by Silco, I still think that if she's going to make these accusations against Vi without ever self-reflecting about her own role in helping Silco oppress Zaun, then it's fair to call out her hypocrisy.

4) "Wake up, sis. I'm a hero. I busted half of Zaun out of Stillwater while you were passed out in the bottom of a mug."

First of all, it's incredibly insensitive for her to throw Stillwater in Vi's face, considering that she knows Vi spent 7 years there, and it's really cruel to mock Vi for being "passed out in the bottom of a mug" considering that part of the reason Vi has been spiraling and drinking were Jinx's own actions. Jinx is part of the reason why Vi has been getting wasted like this.

But it's also hypocritical, because she is accusing Vi of doing nothing while Zaun is suffering, even though Jinx herself was also doing nothing. She was hiding with Isha and would not have helped anyone if Isha hadn't been taken. Not to mention that her own terrorist attacks are the very reason Zaun is being occupied, and Vi helped Zaun way more than Jinx ever did.

(Tbh, I find it frustrating that Vi never got to properly answer to Jinx's accusations or point out Jinx's hypocrisy. I get that for most of the show, Vi is never really in a good state of mind to actually answer to these accusations, especially because Vi is usually busy blaming herself for everything. So I'm not saying it's bad writing that Vi never properly defended herself against these accusations. But it's still very frustrating)

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