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You dismissed @trrenchertrash's argument with no counter-argument until just now when I called you out on it. Being dismissive in a discussion is a bad faith response. I can extend good will far enough to accept that it wasn't intentional but that doesnt absolve it of being in bad faith. The same way you have ignored an entire paragraph of my response, which i will simply repost again for you.
If your issue with "hope" being the theme of the original Star Wars film is because you find it to be underdeveloped and simplistic, I would remind you that theme as a literary device is a central topic, subject, or message within a narrative (which the answer of "hope" covers) and is also often able to be expressed in a single word. In which case an argument that "hope" is too simplistic, implies a fundamental misunderstanding of literary theme and does not apply here. ...
You don't have to like it, thats fine. You are entitled to your own opinions and tastes but to dismiss what is objectively there based on your own personal opinion is disingenuous. And Lord of the Rings is absolutely about love. It is not the only theme in Lord of the Rings but it is a main one, which is very in line with Tolkien's intent to portray his own Christian values in his story.
Additionally, the existence of a character feeling hope is not the same as having hope as a theme in a story. Lots of characters have hope for various different things in The Phantom Menace, and yet hope is still not a theme of that movie because thats not how themes work. Hope existing in a story is not the same as a story being about hope. Almost every film includes learning from failure as well. If characters got everything right the first time we'd be surrounded by some pretty thin plots. The premise even exists in A New Hope, with Luke failing to deflect shots from the combat remote in the beginning, to then successfully destroying the Death Star on the same premise. That doesn't make "learning from failure" a theme of A New Hope.
Technology vs faith is is a weak theme with little supporting evidence in the movie because its not actually a theme in that movie. I'm unsure why you're holding onto the premise despite having disproved it yourself. You are seeking complexity at the expense of understanding what is being shown to you.
... Just because the themes aren't shrouded in layers and layers of complexity doesn't negate their value. Star Wars is meant to be an easily digestible and fun story for all ages. None of that makes it shallow in any sense.
Again, you can dislike it, thats your prerogative, but your personal opinion does not equal an objective fact. I laid out the existence of hope as the theme of A New Hope and you ignored that to refer back to your position of "its too simplistic", completely dismissing that i had already addressed that point as well, which is, you guessed it, disingenuous.
People scream “show don’t tell!” all the damn time, but the second a show actually DOES just show you stuff and make you use your brain to piece things together you scream “bad writing! Bad writing!”
Fuck you. You don’t want a story to “show don’t tell,” you’re literally angry they won’t just spoon feed you the answers on a silver platter.
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If you find people walking away mid-way through discussions to be a recurring event it might be time to consider that it's because you engage in those discussions in a disingenuous and bad faith manner.
The theme of A New Hope is Hope. And that theme is expressed so heavy-handedly that it even makes it to the title. The title of the movie doesn't dictate the theme, the theme dictates the title, and its ironic that A New Hope is the only title that is that direct about its theming and also the one film you seem to have the hardest time identifying a theme for. @trrenchertrash already told you the theme and you dismissed it as "nothing" because it doesn't suit your narrative. And not only have you completely dismissed it but you've also done so with no real rebuttal, just a rejection, which makes it impossible to engage with you in any meaningful way. But hey, I'll bite anyway.
If your issue with "hope" being the theme of the original Star Wars film is because you find it to be underdeveloped and simplistic, I would remind you that theme as a literary device is a central topic, subject, or message within a narrative (which the answer of "hope" covers) and is also often able to be expressed in a single word. In which case an argument that "hope" is too simplistic, implies a fundamental misunderstanding of literary theme and does not apply here. But i am also perfectly capable of providing you with a more complex interpretation of A New Hope's theming if that's your requirement.
The theme of A New Hope is not just hope, but the endurance of hope, even in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds and even after crushing losses, when it seems that all hope has been lost. The film has many instances of hope returning after seemingly having been lost but the most poignant follows the first and last major scenes in the movie. A New Hope opens with the interception of Leia's ship, the failure of her mission, her capture, the unveiling of an extremely formidable weapon, the destruction of an entire planet, and the lines "This is our most desperate hour. Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope". So we open on a very dire note, and with only one avenue of salvation - Obi-Wan. But between this opening scene and the celebratory victory at the end of the movie, we lose that avenue - Leia's proclaimed only hope for the rebel alliance is lost, in the form of Obi-Wan's death. And yet the movie still ends in victory for the rebels. The Death Star is destroyed, Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Luke are new members of the rebel alliance, and even though the empire still exists, even though Alderaan and Obi-Wan are gone, there is still so much hope.
But please tell me how that is "nothing". You're entitled to dislike the theme, or even the entire movie, but to deny its existence only implicates your ability to identify what is frankly a glaringly obvious message, out of what is likely willful ignorance given your lack of struggle in identifying one for The Last Jedi.
As for the depth of Star Wars as a whole, George Lucas' competency or lack thereof as a director has little bearing on the messages his story contains. Star Wars is full of meaningful themes and messages throughout all its installations, including the endurance of hope, the power of will, faith in oneself and ones abilities, the importance and influence of immaterial forces, love, mercy, self-sacrifice, humility, the corrupting nature of power and also of fear, criticism of political systems, and so many more. You could write a PhD dissertation on the messages and lessons conveyed through the prequel era Jedi Order alone. Just because the themes aren't shrouded in layers and layers of complexity doesn't negate their value. Star Wars is meant to be an easily digestible and fun story for all ages. None of that makes it shallow in any sense.
People scream “show don’t tell!” all the damn time, but the second a show actually DOES just show you stuff and make you use your brain to piece things together you scream “bad writing! Bad writing!”
Fuck you. You don’t want a story to “show don’t tell,” you’re literally angry they won’t just spoon feed you the answers on a silver platter.
#star wars#shawty got her fingers in her ears going LALALALALALALALA#i had to bring this blog out of retirement because this thread pissed me off so much#you dont like star wars? cool#you dont like a new hope? cool#you think the last jedi is the best star wars movie? to each their own#but you can at least engage in a discussion regarding topics you disagree with in good faith#even “i think thats a dumb theme” or “i simply prefer the last jedi” are better responses than “thats nothing”#its like arguing with a wall
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did you main super, who, or lock back in the day
#first lock then super then back to lock#those were always my main two#could never really get into who
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reposting cause this got kicked from the tags. again. tumblr’s really testing me this fine morning. made with @somethingmissingthings​ ! link in the reblogs.
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damn no wonder i used this place to cope in 2013 i forgot how fun this shit was
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George Lucas: A Life by Brian Jay Jones
George was enormously far-sighted, and the studio wasn’t, because they didn’t know the world was changing. George did know the world was changing. I mean, he changed it.
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#georgelucasedit#george lucas a life#george lucas#books#louisesfam#i did not expect this to become one of my favorite books of all time#but it really is#anyway i love george lucas with all my heart#happy bday george god bless#mine
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I have found my calling and it is to create niche memes about The Princess Bride (1987, dir. Rob Reiner)
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man it makes me sad to see 13 year old girls on instagram pretending like they are 20 with a huge following that includes a big amount of other girls that age who look up to them and think that it’s normal to look and behave like an adult as soon as you start puberty, I hate this entire instagram culture and I equally hate this gross societal practice that is arising of presenting young actresses (and role models) in the same manner as adults and consequently robbing them from the possibility of experiencing awkward teenage years only to force them from childhood directly into adulthood
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PSA: no name is impossible to pronounce. no name is too hard to learn, no name is justifiably butchered. kids with 'different' names should be taught again and again that being called by their name is a right, not a privilege
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I didn’t mean to come off rude, and I’m sorry if I did - this topic just frustrates me
It’s in Asia and the the Asia/Europe border has been consistent for a while now
Like girl google “what continent is Armenia on” it literally entirely in Asia - and culturally Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan don’t belong either - not every post-soviet country is Eastern Europe
I did, and it said eastern europe. at this point, I’m not going to delete because I worked so hard on it, but I’ll keep it it mind
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pls no
Do not blame me for who I am. The doctor prescribed me 20 mL of #bbc sherlock twice a day.
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