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Heard this song was in Alastor's official playlist ๐ค
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Cute Idea for a Future Episode
Since we know that there's going to be crossovers from Helluva Boss, that would mean the Hazbin gang would have access to the human world through Blitz if they borrow the gem gifted to him by Stolas.
I'll leave it up to you as to why Charlie needs/wants to go to the human world. She invites Alastor to come along with her, saying it will give him the chance to revisit New Orleans. He's delighted at the invite and agrees to go with Charlie. They get human disguises.
But upon arrival, Alastor is horrified at how much New Orleans has changed. He has his perpetual smile but Charlie can tell he's pretty glum about all the changes throughout their day spent there. She rents a boat and takes him into the bayou at night and there's fireflies surrounding them and Charlie smiled at him and says, "I think there's still some places here left untouched by time if you know where to look."
Alastor smiles at her for the longest moment before he begins telling her about his childhood spent in the bayou. Charlie's face is cupped by her hands as she listens with interest, beaming at seeing how happy he is at talking about his human past.
Come on Spindlehorse Charlastor Writers, make it happen just once! Charlie and Alastor in the human world with human disguises would be really entertaining to watch.
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I've been so busy lately with the commissions that I haven't done much personal works ^^" Have a short charlastor comic~ Alastor is sitting way too close >_>"
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Charlie's Facial Expression in this Screenshot

When Charlie initially asks Alastor if he and Mimzy know each other, she seems happy for him as she asks. She was probably assuming that they were friends, but Alastor never gets to answer that because Mimzy jumps in for him.
"Oh, yeah. He and I go way back. Ran in the same circles when we were alive. He's the only one I know who could pound whiskey like a sailor and keep up with me on the dance floor."
But you know what? That still didn't answer what they are to each other. The one thing that stands out from what Mimzy tells Charlie is that Alastor frequently would take her out on the dancefloor. That's hinting at a certain level of intimacy plus the smug look Mimzy is throwing Charlie's way.
Charlie's expression here never made sense to me until I had rewatched that scene recently. Mimzy may be jealous of Alastor's closeness with Charlie, but Charlie also doesn't seem to be too pleased about the "implications" of Alastor and Mimzy's past/current relationship. And Brandon Rogers mentioned not long ago that everything in animation is put there intentionally.
So Charlie may have actually been a bit jealous at Mimzy showing up. Especially if you consider their similarities, blonde, pale and (even though it's more faded) porcelain doll blush marks. So Charlie is watching someone with similarities to her having an "implied" intimate relationship with Alastor, and this comes directly after Alastor just finished singing about how important his bond with Charlie is. Yeah, Charlastor is not entirely platonic.
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I just found this drawing from what I'm assuming is one of Vivzie's old livestreams. The way I am STARK RAVING @ Alastor in all of these drawings. THE LIPSTICK MARKS ON HIS FACE YFZUX8YXY9C9CPUCOUCO

Omg I completely forgot about the drawing with the kiss marks! I love that "drunk and in love" one. I see at this point Alastor is still with Mimzy. You know I'm thinking with Viv recently revealing that she's ace, I wonder if that is the reason she made Alastor ace too.
So if she's ace till trying to figure out where she is on the spectrum then Alastor...I think you know where I'm headed with this. Another reason I think Viv made him ace might have been so that Alastor and his potential former/future gf doesn't distract from the many other couples so they can let him focus on his goal of setting himself free and "pulling all the strings".
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Yes, I've Gotten So Bored From Lack of Content That Now I'm Trying to Guess What Will Be in the Trailer
Charlie, Angel or another character will say "We're baaack!"
Tag line will pop in like "And We're Hornier Than Ever" with a quick shot of Alastor's horns along with Vox and Val sloppily making out.
A voice over of Charlie saying "We've got our work cut out for us! We'll show everyone how serious we are about redemption! -couple of different shots of Charlie and the gang handing out flyers for the hotel, the Hazbin Hotel written in fireworks in the sky as well as them redoing the commercial- "Let's go out and recruit more sinners!
A shot of Charlie taking one step toward the front door before the wall blows up, forming into the shape of its usual heart. A chunk of debris sends Niffty flying back.The dust clears and in comes a smirking Vox. He looks around. "I've gotta say I'm surprised this tacky place is still around. Though, it looks a bit better now I have to admit."
Charlie stands protectively in front of the gang as Vaggie holds her spear to Vox's screen. "What do you want, Vox?" Vox gives her a sleazy look as he gently removes Vaggies spear. "Why, princess. I thought everyone was welcome here. You're not being very hospitable now, are you? At the blank stares from everyone, he says "I'll cut to the chase. I know you made a deal with that dickless deer so I want to make a new deal. Your soul in exchange for the Vees' influence and power. We run all the TV networks and social media. Face it, princess. You need us- me in particular." Vox holds Charlie's chin. "What do you say?" He purrs.
A shot of a tentacle appears out of no where and slaps Voxs hand away. "Why would she needs you when she has ME?" Alastors disembodied voice warbles as he cackles maniacally.
Vox glances around looking pissed off. "Where the fuck are you? Stop hiding you coward! Face me like a man!"
Cuts to a shot of Vox getting flung out of the hotel by a tentacle. Alastor steps out of the shadows to stand by Charlie. "He's all talk. Not to worry. He's no big threat."
A shot of Vaggie asking Alastor privately"Our deal isn't going to effect the hotel will it?" "Ah ha! Of course not!" Vaggie deadpans. "It's definitely going to effect us isn't it?"
A shot of Charlie and Alastor in the hallway as she tells him he's been off lately and if he's feeling OK. Alastor pats her head. "Oh, nothing to worry about my dear. Everything is under control."
The hotel gets blown up. Alastor laughs it off. "Everything is under control."
A shot of Niffty getting kidnapped by Vox. A voice over of Alastor saying "Everything is under control!"
A shot of Alastor in his tower with his head in his hands. "Everything...is...under...COnTroL!" He warbles and he begins to turn into his Eldritch form.
"Who wants pancakes?" Luci calls out In another shot while Charlie drags a hand down her face. "Not a good time, dad."
The entire gang (except Alastor) sitting at the bar looking drained as they ask Husk to pour them a glass.
A voice over of Cherri asking Angel about Husk. A quick shot of Angel and Husk sharing a smile before a voice over of Angel says "I don't know. It's complicated...and I wish it wasnt." A quick shot of Angel's hand reaching out to hold Husks. It cuts out before they touch.
A shot of Charlie crying in bed with a voice over of her saying "Everything is going to shit and I just miss Pen so much." with Vaggie saying "You can't keep blaming yourself."
A shot of Pen in heaven looking concerned as Emily flutters around him in excitement. Lute punches a hole in the wall, swearing her revenge. "I'll make them pay. They'll know real pain," she hissed as gold blood drips from her fist.
A new song starts playing. Likely the "dark night of the soul" kind of song Erika described for Charlie starts playing. Everything is on fire and all of Charlie's friends are incapacitated as she glances around in despair. The sound of footsteps approaching. Charlie gasps as she turns around. "...Mom?" Cuts to "Vacancy Available at the Hazbin Hotel on -insert release date-"
It would be even cooler if Liliths silhouette is shown and "Judas" by Lady Gaga starts playing and that's how we find out she's playing Lilith.
Lets see how right (wrong) I am about the trailer. I purposely left out how I thought Baxter would show up in trailer since we already got a first look at him back in August. What do you guys think? Hopefully, we'll see something at Comic Con.
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Charlastor Coded
I saw the trailer for Luc Besson's "Dracula: A Tale of Love" lol just in time for Charlastor Week with the 1st day being vampire themed. In the trailer Dracula says (about his love, Mina), "She is my salvation." With another person saying, "And you are her damnation." And that is just so Charlastor coded.
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I Need to Know Which Of These Writers Are the Charlastor Writers So I Can Send Them Flowers.

The fact that THEY KNOW some sort of Charlastor tea happened in S2 (in whatever capacity) and we won't know what it is til later this year. What I would've given to have been a fly on the wall of that writers room.
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One Way We Could See A Charlastor Kiss Onscreen. What About Through a Dream Sequence? Preferably Alastor Being the One Who Has the Dream. Hey, It Doesn't Have to Be Canon in Order For Us to Receive Ship Fuel.
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Wanted to Spread Some Positivity in the Charlastor Community
I see that Anti negativity has been making its rounds. A part from the usual bullshit, it seems now they're bringing up old toxic Charlastor behavior from 5 years ago. No one is saying that their behavior toward Viv wasn't shitty, but a large part of that particular group of Charlastors either fucked off or took a long look in the mirror.
It's almost like there's such a thing called growth. Something it seems Antis know nothing about because instead of just focusing on enjoying their own ship, they choose to tear down other ships, Charlastor in particular.
The ironic thing is the current Antis, RadioApple in particular, have becomes the new toxic Charlastors from 2020. They've become the very thing that they hate most- the thing they try to convince everyone is what we are. I wouldn't be surprised if Viv ended up blocking the RadioApple tag as a result.
Charlastor is no longer blocked as evidenced by the Charlastor art Viv occasionally likes. I've seen her "like" several ships and her liking Charlastor is not gonna make them canon any more than RadioApple will become canon- something the RadioApples/Antis cannot grasp.
They're out there losing their shit because Viv had Alastor and Charlie stickers on her luggage right next to Stolitz stickers. Is she not allowed to represent her main characters? Basically, the Antis are going to end up performing the greatest magic trick mankind has ever seen- the trash is going to take itself out.
They are only creating more trouble for themselves. Eventually, their behavior is gonna cause Viv to block their tag and a lot of them are gonna end up leaving the fandom, especially once they realize any "RadioApple" merch is merely ship bait. I hope this gives you guys some peace of mind.
So that's why I want to say that I understand RadioApples and other Antis are frustrating to deal with to say the least. It can be easy to rise to the bait. I've done it myself once before but also I tend to use only charlastor, radiobelle, musical shipping and alastor x charlie as my usual tags to avoid Anti conflict.
I never cross tag with HH, Hazbin Hotel or even with another ship, and that's helped me keep the Antis at bay for a year and a half until one recently invited themselves into the comment section of one of my posts that were clearly not meant for their ship.
It makes me sad to see people wanting to leave the Charlastor fandom/social media because of the Antis constant bullying. That's why I implore you to just use those tags that I listed above from now on, block all the antis and try not to engage in their bullshit if you can avoid it. If any of you have an Anti Block list, please actively share them so the less we all have to deal with them the better.
You owe it to yourself to brain rot over Charlastor with the rest of us as you should. Draw the art, write the fanfic, write the analysis. We will all eagerly engage with that and support each other while we wait for S2.
Charlastor may not be as big of a ship as it once was but our numbers are steadily growing, I've even seen our ship win some shipping polls here and there so that's just one more good sign for our ship.
All RadioApples/Antis are doing is gaining lots of bad karma for their rudeness and bullying. Just watch, they're gonna end up hardly getting any "ship fuel" and end up having to resort once again to stealing Charlastor scenes and replacing Charlie with Luci.
For them to steal and redraw those scenes means they can see the romantic tension and are actively choosing to ignore it, more so if a couple of innocent stickers on Vivs luggage are enough to make them lose their shit.
Our ship is often called "overrated" and "generic" and I implore you to look at that kind of talk from another angle. You know what's another word for overrated and generic- it's popular. :) The word is popular.
The bad boy x good girl ship never dies. I'm almost willing to bet that that's one of the reasons Charlastor got so much content and WILL continue to get more content. Also, whether the Antis like it or not, let me say it again- Charlie and Alastor are the MAIN characters. Not Charlie and Vaggie. Not Alastor and Luci. Alastor and Charlie are the ones running the show and moving the story forward.
The truth is that RadiaApples and other Antis are really truly threatened by Charlastor. They are actually scared that Charlastor could become canon. Let them be threatened. I'd feel salty too if my ship (though I wouldn't act out in a toxic way over it) didn't have real ship fuel.
So don't let them ruin your day or your interest in this ship! Love the ship and talk about the ship and engage in the Charlastor community as much as you'd like. One thing those noisy Antis can't stand is being ignored so give them just that.
Let their toxic delulu brains talk to the wall while you continue to enjoy yourself. Not just to spite them but because Charlastor deserves to be celebrated. It's so special, charming, magical and I think it's exactly what a lot of us needed.
Me for sure because I hadn't been a part of a fandom in a long time and there was something with just the right amount of kick to the Charlastor flavor that made me want to join- I even got back into writing fanfiction because of it.
I had retired from fanfiction many years ago but the Charlastor ship was so special that it literally revived my love for writing and I've gotten to talk to so many wonderful Charlastor fans. And I hope all of you continue to enjoy the ship and I hope you choose to concentrate more on the positive side of our fandom.
Once again, our numbers are growing. You're not alone. Fuck the Antis and for every Anti you may encounter hopefully only once in a blue moon (with only charlastor related tags), may you gain 3-5 new Charlastor friends. :)
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Let's Give This Charlastor Fic Some Love! It's So Underrated!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/47716432/chapters/120279361
It's called "The Devil Wears a Suit and Tie". It's set in modern day New Orleans. While not explicitly stated, Alastor appears to be demiromantic so this version of him does appear to lean more toward having a regular sex life.
In this fic, Charlie is a detective looking for a missing kid and finds a lead at Alastor's club. In this fic, Alastor is a mob boss.
Despite their shared history and her deep-seated hatred for his selfish ways, Charlie and Alastor are forced into an uneasy alliance. Charlie has always been a good girl. Thatโs why Alastor loathes her.
It's very well written and Alastor and Charlie's sexual tension is amazing! Tell all your Charlastor friends about it so that the author knows how well received it is!
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Why Is No One Talking About This?
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Originally, I wasn't that interested in this song. I thought it sounded cool and very Angel but now that it looks like Alastor might be the one singing the song in S3, this creator now has my full attention. Here is the full song. THE LYRICS. LISTEN TO THE LYRICS!
The ppl that work on Hazbin are saying they think the 2nd verse matches Alastor pretty well so they want him to sing the song because they're saying S3 goes deeper into Alastors story.
The lyrics make Alastor sound like a masochist in deep longing and I believe that Viv did once mention in a live a long time ago that Alastor is a masochist. Also there's the fact that from the spoilers we've seen them (not giving specifics but iykyk) sexualizing Alastor with stuff involving his scar and something about the cross on his shirt so it feels like it's all leading to Alastor's ace spectrum.
And as a bonus mention, check this out! The creator of the "Citadel" song I mentioned did a Charlastor edit! He didn't tag it as Charlastor, but it's giving him using Charlie as a "placeholder" for whoever Alastor is singing the sing about and in the edit it looks like he's singing it to Charlie.
In another post, I had mentioned a theory I had where I thought one reason why Alastor is always all over Charlie is because there's a possibility he could've had a lover while he was alive- a lover that could've looked a lot like Charlie but maybe he accidentally killed her/was forced to kill her when she found out he murdering people.
I like this idea and I also like the idea of Alastor directly singing the "Citadel" song to Charlie during a brief Chaggie break up and for the first time revealing his true desires for her. Amir did say we would find out who Alastor would do anything for, the leaks show (without giving specifics) that it's strongly implying that Alastor needs Charlie to need him and in the "Citadel" song it mentions "Use me how you want. I'm not concerned." and "You can play me like a pawn." Idc let me be delulu. I'm manifesting a Charlastor scene like that with this song.
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Beetlebabes BJ3 Theory
In another post, I mentioned how the wedding stuff happenee out of order. They have a ceremony, followed by having a baby, then having their first dance with the consummation of their wedding still pending.
And then there's the dream aspect of the film, which I think will still play a major part in BJ3. During the therapy scene, Beetlejuice tells Lydia, "If stalking means trying to remarry the love of my life, well I'm guilty as charge! C'mere!" The key word being REMARRY.
And Lydia woke up multiple times at the end of BJ2. What if the third time she woke up, she finally woke up for real and BJ3 opens exactly where we left off in Lydia's bed and Beetlejuice reappears a few moments later, revealing a big twist to Lydia- that they've been married for a while. For how long exactly? Who knows?
So for me BJ3 would have BJ retelling the story of how he and Lydia finally got married. That's the first half of the film and the second half is Lydia trying to find a way to undo the marriage contract while also starting to gain feelings for BJ.
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I Like How Even When BJ Was Checking Out Janet and Delia, Those Looks Don't Have Any Meaning to Them. His Gaze Didn't Even Linger Very Long With Janet Because His Talk With Wolf was What Really Had his Attention. And He Told Delia to "Beat It" the Second He Got What He Really Wanted from Delia, Which Was Lydia.
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"You Just Popped his Beetlejuice."
Why does this line sound like "you just popped his cherry." ?
We all know Beetlejuice isn't a virgin, but it's funny when you think about it in this context. In the first movie, they had a ceremony and in the second film they had their first dance together.. Literally the only thing they haven't done yet is consummate the marriage through sex. And well...third times the charm as they say?
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Preparation
Previous part: Seed
โปThis comic contains a very self-indulgent Charlastor. Please use discretion. Read right to left ( โ )
A sudden offer.
I swear they gonna fuck on the next part I swear--
I feel bad that this one takes a while to update but I'm glad to finally conclude part 3! Next part would be the final one.
Thank you for the support of fellow fans on my Ko-Fi; I will post a new goal for the next part around next week! ^^
Bonus:
yeah sure but your vein is exposed my guy
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