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already saw someone suggest this on twitter so it's not an original idea by any means but i wonder if they're going to kill john off once what he's done has been revealed and do a big whodunnit storyline. i mean everyone in that village is going to have a motive. but maybe that's too many "who killed [insert character here]?" storylines too soon who knows.

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speaking of days of our lives, robert is kind of what i always wanted will horton to be on days of our lives (not necessarily in his actions but just in general messiness and chaos). he's the gay son of sami fucking brady! they'd occasionally have him be messy but they were always too scared to really pull the trigger on making him fully messy and chaotic for a long period of time. a real shame.

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a perfect soap character tbh. the sami brady of emmerdale (robert is a much tamer version though lol)

Robert is just such a brilliant character and I'm finding it a little overwhelming really.

Because he can be written as romantic hero (or romantic sap depending on your pov)

Violent offender

Poor sad boy suffering from PTSD from experiences we don't yet know about.

Threatening villain

Threatening hero (ie John)

Notorious money hungry schemer

Loving brother

Demon brother

And the whole lot is just completely believable.

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people complaining about robert scheming.... if you can't love him at his worst, etc. etc. although i argue that's also part of his best but maybe that's just me!

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the writing is obviously not perfect (it's a soap so it's always going to give you whiplash) but i continue to really appreciate what the writers have given robert since he's been back. i can see why ryan hawley actually came back cause i do feel like if he had just been asked to come back for the robron of it all, i'm not sure he would have agreed to it. he's not just being relegated to being aaron's partner/support system here. i'm not saying that was all he was during his first time out but i do think emmerdale often stuck to the formula of aaron going through something tragic and robert having to support him OR robert messing up and having to make it up to aaron, etc. and as much as i loved them, it never really did feel properly balanced once they officially got together.

obviously i want to see aaron's pov at some point and his thoughts on these recent developments and i hope we get it but i like that while obviously aaron is still a very big reason for why robert is back, the show is also allowing him to rebuild his relationship with victoria, go up against his long lost half brother, build new relationships with other characters, and are slowly delving into his prison trauma. it's nice! and in the long run i think it will help the eventual robert/aaron reunion as well because now we have so much context as to who this new robert is.

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they're never going to fully go there but i need them to run with john having a psycho sexual obsession with robert. like that man is already fully obsessed. the only time we see that character be interesting and fully come alive is when he's sharing scenes with robert. they have more chemistry than he and aaron really ever did (i do think some part of that is on purpose but not all of it).

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at least robert looks damn good while his entire life and heart is getting stomped on 😔 we have to take the small wins for now!

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kind of kills me that the only time we really get that robert sugden trademark bravado and confidence is when he's in the same room with aaron/fighting for aaron. their love is like the one thing he still has complete and utter faith in!!!!!!!!! prison has taken so much from him but the belief that aaron still feels the same way about him is the one thing he's held onto and probably gives him strength!!!!!!!!! and that long held belief is probably going to be shattered to pieces in these latest eps..... (even though the audience knows he's right and aaron still DOES still feel the same)

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me the day robert starts being freed from these beige ass colours in his wardrobe signifying that he's slowly but surely back to being his old self again

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sorry it always cracks me up when people watch soaps and go "oh no conflict! oh no drama! oh no people lying to themselves about their feelings! i don't want this!" like is this not just par for the course for a soap opera especially?

the angst is going to be angsting and i hope to god they stretch it out for months and months!!!! it'll make the eventual reunion even juicier.

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i like langdon and i think people should be careful about how they talk about addiction but i do find it a bit annoying that people conveniently leave out the fact that the man actively put OTHERS in harms way not just himself. i definitely think some of the reactions need to be more empathetic towards addicts but this idea that if someone, whether it be a character or an audience member, is upset at langdon it automatically means they have no empathy or grace towards addicts is a bit much for me. maybe robby would have handled the langdon situation a bit better had he not found out during maybe the worst shift ever but i think he gave the guy a lot of grace considering i'm pretty sure most people would have fired langdon on the spot. like it's one thing if robby found out he was an addict, it's another thing to find out that he has put himself in a position that can potentially harm patients? and not only that that he's been stealing from patients? come on.

also the writers WANT you to be a little upset at langdon. having empathy for his situation and being frustrated and a little pissed with him can coincide. they're clearly setting him up for a specific arc.

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i've discussed this in another places but truly i have tried to give the people who hate the s2 finale the benefit of the doubt and who hate the louis/lestat reunion especially a little grace but it's been a couple of months since then and i'm over it doing that lol. there is valid criticisms in terms of pacing that i can probably agree with but every single "complaint" i've seen about that reunion scene in particular is in such bad faith and i find it fascinating how most of it comes from people who supposedly hate lestat but then they choose to center the entire finale ON him. when the finale and that reunion especially was about louis.

the main complaint i've seen about that reunion is this idea that lestat was automatically forgiven for all his crimes (not true) and that somehow claudia's death is being used as a way for them to get back together (it was not). and it's from people who supposedly care about louis as a character and yet all their discussion and bad faith readings is consistently always about lestat. they never attempt to understand WHY louis goes to seek out lestat, why he chooses to hug him, why louis thanks lestat for the gift. if you cared about louis at all as a character, every single choice he makes in that finale is consistent with his character arc and his journey. he goes to see lestat not in an attempt to get back together or to forgive him for every single wrongdoing but because he's the only other person in the world who can understand the grief louis is feeling and has felt for decades now but has never had a chance to fully express it. but instead so much of the discussion from that side of the fandom is "lestat this" "lestat that". like my god, for people who supposedly hate that character you sure spend your entire time making him the center of the narrative even when the show isn't attempting to do so.

i wish certain people in this fandom would just admit that they don't actually care about louis at all as a character because it's so clear so much of the so-called ~interpretations~ of the show are just due to the ship wars some people have made up in their heads or because they hate a character so much it has affected their ability to properly analyze the show in front of them and not the show in their heads.

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something about the way certain armand stans are incapable of talking about his trauma and motivations to explain his actions (very valid thing to do about a character) without throwing louis completely under the bus for it

"i understand armand... louis didn't treat him well" "louis never seemed that committed to a relationship so i get why armand did it"

like you know you can talk about why armand's actions are the way it is without victim blaming louis in this situation right? oh louis wasn't as commited or into armand the way armand was into him? so therefore it's understandable that armand directed a trial that lynched him and his daughter? and ultimately murdered louis' daughter?

i like armand. he's a fascinating, compelling character but some of you seem to like a version in your head that's completely made up. the version where he's louis' sad jilted lover and not the man who directed his daughter's murder nor the man who mindfucked louis for god knows how many years. somehow you, the audience, has fully bought into armands's "uwu i'm a victim louis the coven forced me to choose and i couldn't prevent it" bullshit. it's WILD. armand IS a victim in many ways, it's extremely important to talk about WHY he is the way he is but in his relationship with louis? he's the one with the power there. louis is HIS victim. not the other way around.

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does the iwtv fandom know that liking or disliking a character or a ship does not equate to irl activism? why are you out here trying to win the moral superiority olympics over a fictional show?

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there's a section of the interview with the vampire fandom that seem absolutely miserable watching this show lol

they dislike what they see on-screen, they dislike the actors interpretations of their characters, they act like their interpretation of their material is the Correct interpretation and call everyone else media illiterate and then when the show doesn't subscribe to their headcanons and the show they built up in their heads doesn't happen they throw tantrums about it, they're constantly doom posting about what's going to happen in a season 3 that has yet to be written or filmed

i've hate-watched a couple of shows in my lifetime so i'm not above a little hating but also if a show makes me this upset and angry i know to call it quits and like watch it via clips on youtube or gifs or something

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me happy and thriving knowing that the show is always going to be about louis and lestat and them together:

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i truly hate the word “cringe” especially when people use it as some sort of criticism to heartstopper. the show is just incredibly earnest and open-hearted and i truly think people just use the word “cringe” when they’re uncomfortable with any kind of genuine sincerity or earnestness being presented.  i think the shows sincerity and earnestness is easily its biggest strength (it’s other biggest strength is kit connor’s big, sad expressive eyes lol).