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somewhere out there right now is a kid with curly hair being raised by people who have wavy hair at best and those people are giving them 2-in-1 shampoo and conditioner and telling them to dry brush it. and that kid is gonna spend all of middle school and high school hating their hair and moping over the flat iron. they're being told right now that if they don't dry-brush their curl pattern into oblivion every morning it means they're unkempt and gross even though they naturally have the kind of ringlets that a thousand bridezillas would commit horrible murders for every june. it's happening right now it's an absolute epidemic and a tragedy every time

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"Booktok Romance" and adjacent discourse on this site is so funny because you can see that people's desire to be sex positive (well...for women) is really at war with their fundamental belief that liking low quality art is morally suspect.

"I don't object that's porn! Just that it's bad! Women deserve good porn~" is such ridiculous concern-trolling. It's clearly not bad porn if it's getting them off. Controlling fae king boyfriends are those tiktok ladies' fetish, okay? I'm sorry that that's not interesting or cool enough for you. But people don't usually sit around considering whether or not some unrelated party thinks what gets them going is cool. All this shit is silly if you aren't in to it.

And like I get it. I'm naturally I hater; its feels good to feel surperior to someone because they like some think that you dislike. But "It's cool these women are jacking off. But they should be into the specific thing that I'm into!" is annoying. You should be embarassed to talk like this publically.

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Yeah I don't understand why people act like this is anything new. Romance novels have been popular, high-volume formulaic trash for ages. They've been that way longer than many of the people who complain about booktok romance have been alive.

booktok did ruin a lot of romance novels bc of the demand for instant gratification but culturally it is kind of a slay that so many young women are just reading smut and masturbating all day #respect

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It's still so incredibly twisted how if a woman doesn't wear makeup or has "masculine" interests (which is a stupid concept on its own) people not only attack her and assume she only does that to appeal to men* but also act like they're being feminist for doing so.

If anyone at all should be getting called a pickme I could at least understand if it was misogynistic tradwives or something, not just women who don't fit in with gender conformists.

*A lot of men seem to actually prefer it when women wear makeup and act "feminine" actually. That's the gender role that gets enforced.

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My jaw dropped

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"this guy gets no pussy, which makes him low-status. thats probably why he's joined the hate movement dedicated to the idea that women are a status symbol that's been denied him"

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atheism as an opressed minority is the whitest attempt to pretend you are white and opressed I have ever seen in my entire black ass life

Mhm. Like fucking clockwork lmao.

1) I'm neither white nor an atheist. But sure, me calling atheists a religious minority is me pretending I'm white and oppressed.

2) I didn't use the word "oppressed", I just said "religious minority", but since you want to go there, sure let's go there.

There is no single religious affiliation that is as widely regarded as "political suicide" in the U.S. as openly identifying as an atheist, they're one of the most underrepresented groups in the U.S. government and most of the few atheist politicians that have held any political office in the U.S. have only openly come out as such either after the fact or late into their term, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to be elected in the first place.

A 2014 study by the university of Minnesota on social prejudice against atheists found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists a group of people who "didn't agree with [their] vision of american society" and that 44% of respondents wouldn't agree with their child marrying an atheists.

And also, despite the fact that these have been later ruled to be unenforceable, it's still incredibly telling that there are currently seven U.S States whose constitutions try to explicitly ban atheists from holding public office.

Notice how most of these are worded specifically so that you're not banned as long as you believe in ANY God or "supreme being", so it's not even an attempt at discrimination against non-christians in general, but specifically against atheists and other nonbelievers.

This is an uncharacteristically US-centric post of me but let's be real this ask is written in such an aggressively american way (e.g. immediately conflating "atheist" with "white" and implicitly treating U.S. racial dynamics as universal) so I know your yankee ass isn't gonna give a shit if I talk about how e.g. a 2009 survey found atheists to be one of the most openly hated demographic groups in Brazil, or how in several countries being openly atheist is straight-up punishable by the death penalty.

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watching this to get a look inside the boot licker logic

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"but the text never explicitly stated it!!!" hey, so that's actually what they tried to teach you in those english classes you barely passed 😁

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"I'm not reading all that" is one of the most egg-on-your-face responses you can give to something you disagree with. You are under no obligation to read something you don't feel like reading, but you don't exactly get to act like refusing to read bolsters your position.

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that "most fanfiction that gets published as a novel is bad because it's always the weirdest people writing it" post is so fascinating in the way it very clearly eschews any traditional definitions of words to simply use 'normal' as shorthand for 'good' and 'weird' as shorthand for 'bad'

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I have been saying forever now that the reason there is so much m/m stuff in fandom is that the vast majority of it is created by people who are attracted to men. That's it! Do people wonder why porn for straight men is filled with hot women? Presumably not. But for some reason, no one wants to admit that they are writing erotica because they find it hot - no, there's always some other more respectable reason. This is silly. It's fine to do things just because it's fun and hot.

It really is not a hard explanation to come up with! And those arguing against it typically don't even try to refute it, they just say that the excuses are annoying and that they have heard it all before.

Most people are of course reasonably unsurprised by the prevalence of m/m in fanfic. The one thing that is actually interesting about it is that it is often even more common than m/f. In that way it is different from porn whose target audience is straight men. And people have wrote extensively on that phenomenon, @power-chords added something about it to the post that started the current round of discussions, but she's blocked by the OP now, of course.

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remember when there used to be that tidbit passed around a lot back in 2014 or so (though I am sure it is much older) that goes something like,

there are specially-gendered insults just for women [bitch, cunt], but no gendered insults for men, isn't that sexist? the only male-specific insults [bastard, son of a bitch] are still sexist against women

but I was thinking about this the other day and I think that it's just that almost all insults are male-gendered, but no one notices it

but, when's the last time you saw a woman called a jackass, dick, asshole, jerk, etc. probably never, right? or it's at least vanishingly uncommon

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The replies on anti-astrology posts often provide even more justification to avoid astrology people.

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One time in highschool our teacher said that it was never under any circumstances okay for a boy to hit a girl and I asked “not even in self defense?” and he said “no” so I pointed to the kid next to me and said “so if I just started whaling on this guy then he’d just have to take it? What the hell” and he was like “you two have had the same homeroom for three years do you not know his name” and I was like “that’s not the point right now” and Mr. K if you’re out there reading this I’m still mad about it

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All types of people can be and are victims of say...police brutality. But if somebody called police brutality a black issue or POC issue and your response was "this affects everyone, you just don't see white people as people!"...that would say a whole lot more about you than anybody else.

It's pretty normal to call something an [x] issue when it disproportionately affects that group. And a lot these things listed...do disproportionately affect men. Women are given more latitude when displaying emotions publicly, men experience more hair loss, women get more college degrees than men and studies have turned up evidence of bias against boys in classrooms. I could go on.

The idea the something can't be looked at as an issue of a specific group if it might affect anybody else at any time ever is an actually insane position to hold. There are vanishingly few "issues" that fit that criteria. If OP uniformly believed this they would be on the "wrong" side of like 90% of social justice issues. Men just aren't on the approved list of people allowed to have issues.

about to say something mean but i feel like every "male-specific" issue is something that also happens to women its just that a lot of you dont seem to see women as people