formidablefangs

[formidablefangs]

We really liked this one transfem blog but they turned out to be pro endo and there's not really another version we can follow of the same blog ;-;

im so sorry anon🫂 I don't get it, why can't people just stop being ableist

[formidablefangs]

Honestly tiring that this needs to be said and reiterated so often.

A system is a defense mechanism created by the brain as a reaction to a traumatic even (typically multiple) during childhood development. It's the disruption of the development of self and a covert disorder.

So terms like system, multiple and (though we personally dislike this one) plural, are therefore medical terms in the context of a disorder.

Basic proper research should show this.

This is why the community tries so hard to defend its terms and repeats that being a system is a neurological and psychological medical matter.

This is why we hate the fact that there are people using our terms and claiming to have the expirience of our disorder without the required points of diagnosis that make it happen.

We're upset because there are people:

A) grooming minors and others with disinformation and misinformation into believing something either they dont have or that's the wrong thing they're experiencing entirely.

B) claiming to have a similar expirience to us without bothering to properly look into it

C) have something else but plaster pur terms over it to try and pretend to be like us.

Yes some endos might just not remember their trauma, that's normal and exactly how the brain will work with this disorder.

Yes sometimes they actually just dont have the disorder and instead have something else or multiple other things that are going undiagnosed because they believe in false information.

Yes a lot of them are just looking for a place to fit in because that is human and what our brains need when we're going through things.

But for God sake we know more about how the brain works than people let on, there is documented research and still more research being done and if this misinformation/disinformation continues to spread and people continue to try to pander to and normalize endos then it will halt that research and stigmatize the disorder so it will be even harder for us to get help than it already is.

And on top of that if they cant just find something else to further separate from us, stop using system terms and use something more disconnected than they need to halt what they're doing now and do something else until they can figure it out.

Alters are pieces of the brain, parts of a whole self that failed to develop properly, they form from multiple things outside just trauma and trauma can be anything. But that doesnt mean alters that form from sources unrelated to trauma arent still "traumagenic", the system itself formed from trauma therefore all the alters and parts of the system follow suit in the defense mechanism the brain has made to cope.

Parts of you cannot move to someone elses brain.

Parts of you cannot die, but instead change. Theh fuse, split into different parts, go dormant but they cant die because they're a part of your self, a facet of you in your brain, and you as a person whole or not can change.

Parts of you that function as the brain does.

Alters exist for comfort, managing symptoms, dealing with memories, organizing the system, calming other alters, helping with daily or work or school tasks, every aspect of your mind and life the brain has developed a way of dealing with it through the system. Relationships and the bad things like intrusive thoughts included.

I sincerely hope that those who call themselves endo, those who use "system" terms under the endogenic umbrella and their supporters understand this, understand how the brain works and at least try to accept it.

I know we hate being put in a box, that people hate when things are restricted to a box, but with things like this medical condition, a disorder related to the function of the brain and psyche, the box is there for a reason to help understand how said thing works. Trying to force it outside the box is only hurting those who have it.

Systems are systems because of what happened to them. The expirience is different for everyone but theres a template in place to guide the understanding of it logically.

The fighting is tiring, people have talked it to exhaustion and to the people who continue to refuse to listen and instead chose to perpetuate the ignorance, I hope you can take a breather from the internet for a while and find something better to get into than this.

Its genuinely exhausting.

[formidablefangs]

ik a mod of sysboxes, qnd they mentioned to me that they get a LOT of tips from anons of

"someone talked abt you here"

"youre posted on fdc again"

etc etc,

They dont actively seek it out; and you might be blocked on the group but that doesn't mean individuals mods have you blocked i guess

That is what I suggested. Not the anons part, but the fact that I don't think the mods have me blocked. But I suppose I appreciate knowing . Though I'd say if you're friends with those guys I don't think I really want you here, not gonna lie /nm

[formidablefangs]

It's normal for alters to split from things other than traumatic events/situations. That's how a system works, alters form to help with every function the brain deems needed in every aspect of ones life, that doesnt make your system or alters in anyway "endogenic".

Acknowledging your trauma is a first step in healing and learning it is healthy, while it may be scary and your memories are hidden because of that, going to therapy to unlock and work through it is a major step for healing and knowing about your trauma so you can deal with and heal from it is the only way to do so, if you ignore your trauma you're only hurting yourself and making it worse not healing from it.

I hate misinformation.

Traumaendo isnt a thing you're just describing the experience of splitting alters.

Yes you can go "digging" for trauma your brain has locked away and that memory holders haven't shared, just do so safely because learning things that happened to you require someone to support you.

For the love of the gods please stop saying alters not formed from trauma are or make you nontraumagenic and stop saying anything along the lines of "your brain hid it for a reason dont go looking for it" "suppress that shit" "you dont need to remember your trauma just ignore it"

Trauma doesnt go away unless you openly accept, aknowledge and work through it. An alter forming from a show you like is not endogenic, its comfort and coping and your brain searching for pieces of identity that haven't integrated.

God I hate seeing misinformation so much

[formidablefangs]

Treating your headmates like separate people isn't worsening your condition by default by the way. Treating them with respect isn't making you dissociate more. Final fusion is a fine thing to try and achieve, but people need to understand that functional multiplicity is a thing you can work to achieve in therapy too. Please stop pushing the idea that you need to treat your headmates like a disorder or curse in order to heal. You can be happily multiple if you want that.

[formidablefangs]

Sys culture is being confusing AF how endos claim to be systems without childhood trauma causing them to become a system.

People don't become systems without childhood trauma causing it and without a reason to become a system.

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[formidablefangs]

It's not a faux pa to mention that you have DID/OSDD-1B to people in your life that you trust to know.

I'm not even talking about sharing info about alters, system, trauma, or anything. I'm talking about how it's not a faux pa to say "Yeah I have dissociative amnesia because of my DID. I learned how to take good notes on everyday activities because that's what I had to do when my DID symptoms were worse. Yeah some days I feel more or less prepared for xyz because of my DID."

Allowing average everyday people the space to casually bring up their DID to people they trust helps de-stigmatize DID. No one is obligated to do it, but allow the people who want to, the space to.

[formidablefangs]

sysculture is watching people admit to faking DID as a teen on accident and on one hand understanding how a teenager with identity problems and growing mental issues would come to that conclusion, but on the other hand, feel a bit of resentment because now you can't tell people you're a system without them trying to fakeclaim you despite the debilitating dissociation and daily confusion you feel that you will never, ever, be able to properly communicate to someone who doesn't experience the disorder

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[formidablefangs]

Since apparently I have to say this again;

It's not okay to take an anti endo's post, copy it word for word, then post it again on your blog with maybe a few words changed just to make it "endo safe".

You are not being "inclusive" when you do that. You are talking over CDD systems and making our issues and experiences about endos.

When you hear anti endos say that endos are making our experiences about them, this is exactly when we mean by that. Even if it's far from every endo doing it, it's still a common thing, and it still is received well. This is still a thing a lot of (pro) endos support.

We're allowed to make posts about our experiences and not include endos in that. We can post about our experiences specifically. Just like (pro) endos are allowed to do the opposite.

CDD systems are allowed to talk about CDD experiences. We're allowed to be anti endo. We're allowed to have endos on our DNIs.

If you're going to make safe spaces for endos, do it without stealing from other systems. Make your own posts and stop snatching every anti endo post you see and copy and pasting it just because you don't believe we deserve spaces without endos. If you do that, you are giving us anti endos more of a reason to not like endos. You're doing nothing but making (pro) endos look like assholes.

-Milkyway

[formidablefangs]

" we know most endos are probably partially, mostly or exclusively traumagenic but you shouldn't force that label (did/osdd/udd/cdds/etc) on them if they arnt in a place to accept their trauma"

Idk how to tell you that denying your trauma not only doesn't make it disappear or minimize its affects, it explicitly makes it worse and it also doesn't change its damage or impact and even though I'm all for (most) forms of self-identification, acknowledging you have trauma is the ONLY way to actually address it and heal from it.

So although I sympathize with the endos who can't accept their trauma or don't remember it, it dosent make it disappear, it doesn't lessen the fact it is the soul reason they have did/osdd (if they arnt knowingly faking) and I refuse to support a label and it's subsequent community if it's soul existence is either to encourage self harm via ignoring trauma and exasperate harmful coping mechanisms, the delegitimacy of an already demonized mental disability via an attempt at normalizing it's most overt and unique symptom as well as legitimately fear mongering about diagnosis and treatment or outright appropriating a disability just for fun knowingly.

Even if I didn't see a personal issue with the endogenic label (and I absolutely do, mostly due to lack of scientific evidence), id still have a glaring problem with its community and it's proclivity towards victim blaming, sh encouragement, abuse minimalization, fake claiming, bigotry and overt ableism. Idk how to tell you that apple is rotten to the core...

[formidablefangs]

Why are endos so upset when they cant interact with a trauma survivors blog?

I guarantee you aren't actually missing out on that much, theres no birthday party to crash maleficent.

[formidablefangs]

i got a reply to my sys blog’s intro post that tumblr apparently hid because i can only see the notification and not the full comment, but it said “‘dni - anyone who’s a good person’ fuck off abusive…” and the person was, of course, an endo. but they are also TWENTY EIGHT? surely they have better things to be doing than leaving hate comments on a trauma survivor’s blog.

(i also have never been called abusive for being anti endo, so there’s that 😭)

"anyone who's a good person" they claim while actively breaking someone's boundaries and calling someone abusive over literally just not being ableist 💀 and they're 28!!?!!! I can't 😭

[formidablefangs]

Post I just saw in the sys punk tags from 4 days ago said somewhere in the middle of several walls of text "I think the acceptance of endogenics helps both endos and traumagenics" and I just wanna hurl

Pro endos stop invading our tags and please further educate yourselves esp if you're still new to system hood because you've more than likely been subjected to disinformation and you're really only perpetuating harm as ive said in a previous post

[formidablefangs]

WOAH HEY PSA TO ALL SYSTEMS

local piece of shit does bad horrible things; block sophies [speculated to be, most likely to be] latest blog ; @/ifuckinghateendos

mostly posting this here because this has more posts than my main and i need everyone who was affected by Sophies previous purposeful paranoia inducing posting to be aware of this blog and block it as soon as you can.

DO NOT CHECK OUT THIS BLOG IF YOU ARE AFFECTED BY UNREALITY, PARANOIA, AND THINGS LIKE IT

sorry im not very good at giving content warnings, but its troll blog that posts government conspiracy things related to endos, posing as an anti endo poster.

please stay safe everyone, and i hope sophie gets kicked off of the fucking internet forever.

- 🌀sys [anonymous]

^^^^^ I remember that (excuse my language) twat and she is a HORRIBLE person. Block the account and move on though. Don't harass her, don't even interact with her. As someone who is affected by paranoia am blocking her immediately

[formidablefangs]

Why aren't endos valid?

Endos (and the like) are inherently radqueer.

You can not be pro Endo, willow, tulpa, whatever, and be anti radqueer. Systems are a trauma response. You cannot make them. You cannot appropriate a closed practice to make them. They require trauma. To think otherwise is definition radqueer. Tulpamancy is not systemhood, it is a closed spiritual practice that many, like Sophieinwonderland, chose to appropriate.

Disorders are not a gender identity. They can not be compared. Terms like Sysmed and Traumascum are often used by endos to describe anti-endos, and if those terms already make you angry just by the look of them (Because us too), they're used to compare real systems to transmeds and truscum. Being queer is an endless spectrum, one not to be gatekept. Severe mental disorders resulting from severe or repeated trauma is not comparable!

Harassing traumatized teens online because they ask you not to interact does not make you look better especially when very few do so to you. Many endos do this as explained partially in the "what is an Endo" post. Invading spaces meant for traumatized individuals while claiming not to have trauma is wrong on so many levels but most endos will call you ableist for saying that. Which is hypocritical, because if you're not disordered then excluding you from a space purely for disordered individuals isn't ableist

-Stolas

(Apologies for any spelling errors, we are dyslexic. I'm also not the alter who originally wrote this post, that was Jinx, our co-host, but I used their post as a base to add onto)

[formidablefangs]

[ * I feel like I need to make a post about this because I keep seeing this kind of thing in endo spaces and I really need to say this ]

[ * If you're trying to shove anti endos off of platforms before we have the chance to join them, you're not beating the allegations of endos invading CDD spaces. ]

[ * If you go into anti endo spaces for no other reason than to tell us that we're wrong and evil and bigots, you're not beating the allegations of endos invading CDD spaces. ]

[ * If you try and "reclaim" anti endo tags and flood them with your posts, then try and either tell us that it was never ours to begin with or that we don't deserve it, you're not beating the allegations of endos invading CDD spaces. ]

[ * If you're going out of your way to try and take our spaces or prevent us from making spaces for ourselves, you're not convincing us to be pro endo, you're not proving us wrong, you aren't doing the right thing, you are only giving us more reasons to despise you. You're giving other pro endos a bad name, and convincing us that we were right about you all along. ]

[ * Threatening to, or even outright trying to take our spaces from us for not agreeing with you is horrible and you shouldn't be surprised when we react badly to it. If you do this, you are actively invading disabled spaces ]

-Splotch

[formidablefangs]

Being black and mentally ill has me feeling like a fucking joke. Apparently, I’m abusing substances because there’s absolutely no way I’m actually mentally ill. No, no, that’s a myth. According to them: “black people don’t get sick, that’s white people shit.” ..?? Are we not human too???? We are not immune to developing disorders, people. But unfortunately, to them it’s like this made up concept and in their eyes, the professionals “must be lying.”

And with being trans, apparently, I am just confused and probably just a lesbian… like what?? My gender identity has nothing to do with my sexual orientation and I wish they’d stop coming up with that conclusion.

Also the term “Psychopath” has been thrown around more and more every time someone does something that doesn’t fit their ideal image of a “respectable person” and it can be something as simple as some person driving too fast on the road. It never made sense and it’s only adding to the problems we face. Racism, stereotypes, stigmatization, etc, The more closed-minded the community is, the more we are adding to our own problems/struggles.

You can’t push for respect and acceptance outside the community while still being unaccepting and cruel to the people within that same community.