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[framed-stanford]

We Actually Really Liked Elio

I had a professor who encouraged us to do research before writing essays - he said that reading a 50-year-old novel and not looking up existing discussions is a bit like coming to a party late and not knowing what anyone is talking about.

I'm curious what he would say now, in the age of ChatGPT, but I digress.

We couldn't get tickets to Superman, so we decided to give Elio a shot. We were both impressed - maybe even blown away - prompting me to check big YouTube channels to see why so many people didn't like it.

The consensus overall seemed to be

-It's really not bad, just not what you would expect from Pixar

-Existing Pixar/Disney movies did it better

-It was safe and forgettable

So...let me try to take a different angle I haven't seen many people discuss.

The similarities with Lilo and Stitch are obvious. I've also seen the movie compared to Big Hero Six and even The Incredibles. It's about family. There's this child who doesn't really fit in, and he wants to be somewhere else, and there's this mother figure just barely able to keep it all together.

And I would say...sure...

but...

Elio is a movie about curiosity and exploration. Early on, without spoiling too much, there's this scene of Elio meeting two other young HAM radio enthusiasts. There's this military base itself that's implied to be restricted by bureaucracy, but within its ranks is an enthusiastic scientist whose role...again, without spoiling too much...gets expanded later on. There's a scene reminiscent of The Martian that hints at the notion of multiple countries collaborating, a reminder that science does not have to exist for the benefit of any individual country, but for the benefit of all mankind. Predictably, a lot of "social media critics" seem to focus more on the other aspects of the movie, and you'll only see this kind of thing mentioned if you go on obscure Subreddits like the amateur radio page.

*Spoilers*

Other criticisms I've heard on YouTube

-The secondary characters are forgettable

I won't push back on the tertiary characters. The robot. The alien other than the mind-reading one. The various other planet leaders who are part of a peaceful and somehow hyperadvanced civilization, but are completely blindsided by a kind of obvious threat.

I heard a particularly critical reviewer (possum) point out that Grigon was just a minor comic relief character, but then they went through production hell, rewrote much of the script, and recast him as the villain.

But the other characters? Solid. The relationship between the two "outcast children" was particularly sweet. I even liked the clone, who kind of subverted my personal expectation that Elio would come into conflict with his "normal shadow," while Glordon accidentally created some "evil shadow" designed to perfectly fit his father's expectations to the point that he became a kind of Avengers level threat.

-This has all been done before

Has it? Lilo and Stitch, I'd argue (non-controversially), has a lot more to do with the culture of Hawaii than space exploration. The Incredibles plays with the idea of being special (and how our world treats people who are special), Big Hero 6 is a coming-of-age story about loss and the dark path to revenge, and Buzz Lightyear...

...well, I haven't watched that one. Maybe that's about exploration.

So Elio, someone who doesn't feel loved and doesn't seem to belong, goes somewhere else and they create a "perfect" clone of him. The "perfect" clone isn't even remotely interested in space, he does chores, he behaves well, he relates. To the real Elio, this is a short-lived nightmare. He really, truly doesn't belong and is replaceable.

Only he's not. Neither is his friend. His mother figure recognizes that this is not him and misses the real him, much like Glordon's father.

Then he collaborates with the same people he had come into conflict with. He accepts who he is, idiosyncrasies (if I'm using the word correctly) and all. He wanted to give up everything and disappear, a kind of futurama-like-protagonist with a desire to get away from everything. But like in Futurama, we as an audience begin to recognize that he DOES have a place, to the point that those around him will go to considerable lengths to reunite once again.

As the conversation goes

"She gave up being an astronaut for me."

To which Glordon, without a moment's hesitation, responds:

"Wow, she must really love you!"

[framed-stanford]

Everyone who said Elio was "mid" needs to apologize rn. I almost didn't bother seeing it because I kept hearing it was mediocre, only for it to end up being one of the best animated films I have seen in a while! Spoiler-free thoughts below the cut:

I loved the character designs, the aliens were absolutely adorable! The textures and lighting were phenomenal, and despite being very realistic, it still worked very well with the overall cartoony style. That's another thing, I've seen a lot of people piss on Elio over its art style that Pixar has been using for their more recent films, but repetition doesn't equal bad!! It's really cool to see animated films with unique, stylized animation. However, remember that this very "bean mouth" style that people hate in Elio was praised in films like Luca and Turning Red because it was unique and stylized at the time. It hasn't even been a decade of this style being used, and people are already complaining about it getting old. Even if it was, not every animated film needs to try something new visually. The point is, Elio still looks great, even if it's art style has been used before. Animated films should not be expected to try something new, even if it is cool when they do.

Outside of the visuals, the writing and pacing were excellent! The latter of the two are especially important to me, since I feel like pacing is something films in general recently have been struggling with. (e.x. The Wild Robot, as good as the visuals, story, and themes were, the pacing was so atrocious it was almost unwatchable for me.) The themes surrounding loneliness, belonging, and parenthood were wonderfully executed as well. I loved how they tied in the question all alien enthusiasts ask, "Are we alone in the universe?" to a much more personal level. Especially amidst the current loneliness epidemic, presenting the theme that "even if we feel alone, we are never alone" is really important. I also loved how parenthood is tied into this, that your parents/caretakers know you better than you think. Even if they don't necessarily understand you, they love you and want you to be happy, which is another great theme for a children's movie.

Anyways, long story short, Elio is a fantastic film, and if you are financially able, go see it in theaters!! I hate seeing these pointless live action remakes outperform an original, remarkable animated film.

[framed-stanford]

"I'm an old man! You can't shove me down the stairs!"

I have you a gift ^^

*it's a paternity basket*

@mabel-multiverse-explorer

"... oh god, this theraprism is pro life. CURSE YOU BILL."

[framed-stanford]

Why are there so many kids here? I thought this place was ment to be so kind of uber powerful prison, not a daycare.

"I wish I knew. As much as I try to be... hospitable, I am not a fan of them. Maybe this is some form of therapy torture."

[framed-stanford]

".... wait-"

I have you a gift ^^

*it's a paternity basket*

@mabel-multiverse-explorer

"... oh god, this theraprism is pro life. CURSE YOU BILL."

[framed-stanford]

"Thank you for the hopeful thinking, child..."

I have you a gift ^^

*it's a paternity basket*

@mabel-multiverse-explorer

"... oh god, this theraprism is pro life. CURSE YOU BILL."

[framed-stanford]

I have you a gift ^^

*it's a paternity basket*

@mabel-multiverse-explorer

"... oh god, this theraprism is pro life. CURSE YOU BILL."

[framed-stanford]

"I don't like the look of this... it reminds me of Bill and myself, once upon a time."

I am not immune to yuri…

[framed-stanford]

"Yes, a problem caused by and therfore preventable by you- but I suppose I have no control over a demon childs actions."

woah prison? what'd you do?

-@nikkos-weirdmageddon

"Nothing. I was framed."

[framed-stanford]

"Child, arson is bad. Please do not commit it. It hurts people."

woah prison? what'd you do?

-@nikkos-weirdmageddon

"Nothing. I was framed."

[framed-stanford]

"I apologize that my predicament doesn't bring you joy?"

woah prison? what'd you do?

-@nikkos-weirdmageddon

"Nothing. I was framed."

[framed-stanford]

woah prison? what'd you do?

-@nikkos-weirdmageddon

"Nothing. I was framed."

[framed-stanford]

"Fair enough, I was hesitant to trust a Bill anyways, and anyone who agreed with him."

"I wanted to meet you myself. You seem pretty normal to me!"

"I've got the papers from my theraprism to have a visit with the one they call... Hench?"

- @framed-stanford

A woman made of water hums in response as she looks through a couple of files "309^45-9 correct?"

[framed-stanford]

"I was also given that god forsaken middle name, and why so many Fords seemed to keep it is beyond my understanding."

"Hm, lets see... a fox fellow, some Euclidean children, a couple a Bills... one was named Nester."

"I've got the papers from my theraprism to have a visit with the one they call... Hench?"

- @framed-stanford

A woman made of water hums in response as she looks through a couple of files "309^45-9 correct?"

[framed-stanford]

"Yes, you go by Hench, do you not? Greetings. I'm Docter Stanford William Pines. You can decide what way you would like to address me."

"A few people have visited me of late, and they all seem to loath you."

"I've got the papers from my theraprism to have a visit with the one they call... Hench?"

- @framed-stanford

A woman made of water hums in response as she looks through a couple of files "309^45-9 correct?"

[framed-stanford]

"Of course they can. Have a good afternoon, Miss." He continues through the door to Henches cell.

"I've got the papers from my theraprism to have a visit with the one they call... Hench?"

- @framed-stanford

A woman made of water hums in response as she looks through a couple of files "309^45-9 correct?"

[framed-stanford]

"Of course. Here you go."

He handed her a few papers that basically gave him permission to meet with hench.

"I've got the papers from my theraprism to have a visit with the one they call... Hench?"

- @framed-stanford

A woman made of water hums in response as she looks through a couple of files "309^45-9 correct?"