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Can we spare a moment to appreciate how sweet Regen One Shockstar and their relationship is?

Regen One is a continuation of the original Marvel(US) comics.

By Regeneration One, They had both lost their bodily autonomy, Starscream didn't really have much awareness and could not speak anything coherently after being essentially lobotomized by Megatron and Shockwave couldn't tether himself from the ship because it had become a part of him.

They were both in horrible situations all around and helped eachother regain their autonomy, Shockwave removed the blocks Megatron had placed in Starscream's mind, but he did not have complete autonomy himself and required a pilot, and when Starscream volunteered to be that he did not once doubt that he wasn't being insincere at all and trusted him. Shockwave, somebody who is well known for prioritizing his logic over everything else trusted the one known notoriously for being a self serving backstabber knowing Starscream would not try to betray him and Starscream not disappointing his trust at all. And in return Starscream while being possessed by Underbase helped separate Shockwave from the Ark's body.

I think there is inherently something so sweet that this is one of the first Shockwaves who was actually emotionless at the start and throughout the series he gradually started to learn it, he actually sounds really excited to work with Starscream it's not even subtle, they were on and off partners in crime essentially.

By the time everything is over and done with, and the place was about to be destroyed Shockwave willingly with no ulterior motive decided to go back and save Starscream before they got into the ship and left, an action that surprised even himself, the first time he acknowledged that he ever felt emotion.

I am obsessed with this particular iteration of their dynamic they make me ill, their relationship can be everything you can think of whether you see them as friends, Qplatonic or more, the bond is there. It's someone who doesn't understand emotions and prioritizes logic and someone who has rarely ever had a geniune connection with anyone because he has a habit of self sabotaging every relationship he's ever had and has trouble understanding relationships outside of self gain. None of them really understand the need of forming connections besides for their own benefit yet they were still able to seamlessly work together.

It's two selfish people who for the most part prioritize their own self's survival over everyone else's, yet Shockwave still went back for Starscream. And this extended to others too as they later scoured Cybertron to see if anyone else was alive too and saved Ravage from zombie Soundwave. They were both broken people by that point, who have had a long history in the war and have fought alongside eachother for their own needs, by the time the dust settles they don't really have any fight left in them to continue the cruelty and decided to elope on the ship to have a vacation and help other species find peace, like they've discovered in eachother and their unconventional situation, the point was they found their own peace just living in that mundane way. And for once that's enough. Their relationship is just so very sweet, they went from being colleagues to allies/partners to frenemies to straight up friends at the end and the payoff despite everything else is great because it didn't come out of nowhere, they're not even just tolerating eachother they geniunely enjoy the other's presence and come on it's sweet.

They ended up in an actually healthy relationship too.

That, and Ravage literally thinks they've both lost their minds because they've suddenly turned a 180 and became peace ambassadors after everything, honestly I don't blame him lmao. Imagine knowing these two and out of nowhere they suddenly start speaking for peace and unity, the three of them are the last decepticons alive, Starscream and Shockwave aren't really following the need of keeping the memories of the faction alive anymore so it's just Ravage.

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Can we spare a moment to appreciate how sweet Regen One Shockstar and their relationship is?

Regen One is a continuation of the original Marvel(US) comics.

By Regeneration One, They had both lost their bodily autonomy, Starscream didn't really have much awareness and could not speak anything coherently after being essentially lobotomized by Megatron and Shockwave couldn't tether himself from the ship because it had become a part of him.

They were both in horrible situations all around and helped eachother regain their autonomy, Shockwave removed the blocks Megatron had placed in Starscream's mind, but he did not have complete autonomy himself and required a pilot, and when Starscream volunteered to be that he did not once doubt that he wasn't being insincere at all and trusted him. Shockwave, somebody who is well known for prioritizing his logic over everything else trusted the one known notoriously for being a self serving backstabber knowing Starscream would not try to betray him and Starscream not disappointing his trust at all. And in return Starscream while being possessed by Underbase helped separate Shockwave from the Ark's body.

I think there is inherently something so sweet that this is one of the first Shockwaves who was actually emotionless at the start and throughout the series he gradually started to learn it, he actually sounds really excited to work with Starscream it's not even subtle, they were on and off partners in crime essentially.

By the time everything is over and done with, and the place was about to be destroyed Shockwave willingly with no ulterior motive decided to go back and save Starscream before they got into the ship and left, an action that surprised even himself, the first time he acknowledged that he ever felt emotion.

I am obsessed with this particular iteration of their dynamic they make me ill, their relationship can be everything you can think of whether you see them as friends, Qplatonic or more, the bond is there. It's someone who doesn't understand emotions and prioritizes logic and someone who has rarely ever had a geniune connection with anyone because he has a habit of self sabotaging every relationship he's ever had and has trouble understanding relationships outside of self gain. None of them really understand the need of forming connections besides for their own benefit yet they were still able to seamlessly work together.

It's two selfish people who for the most part prioritize their own self's survival over everyone else's, yet Shockwave still went back for Starscream. And this extended to others too as they later scoured Cybertron to see if anyone else was alive too and saved Ravage from zombie Soundwave. They were both broken people by that point, who have had a long history in the war and have fought alongside eachother for their own needs, by the time the dust settles they don't really have any fight left in them to continue the cruelty and decided to elope on the ship to have a vacation and help other species find peace, like they've discovered in eachother and their unconventional situation, the point was they found their own peace just living in that mundane way. And for once that's enough. Their relationship is just so very sweet, they went from being colleagues to allies/partners to frenemies to straight up friends at the end and the payoff despite everything else is great because it didn't come out of nowhere, they're not even just tolerating eachother they geniunely enjoy the other's presence and come on it's sweet.

They ended up in an actually healthy relationship too.

That, and Ravage literally thinks they've both lost their minds because they've suddenly turned a 180 and became peace ambassadors after everything, honestly I don't blame him lmao. Imagine knowing these two and out of nowhere they suddenly start speaking for peace and unity, the three of them are the last decepticons alive, Starscream and Shockwave aren't really following the need of keeping the memories of the faction alive anymore so it's just Ravage.

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Random thought just wondering how do you think the tf one autobots will get their insignia? I get Megatron branded the decepticons as a symbolism for him having to endure pain from the hands of Sentinel as a way of showing their loyalty, but branding is like painful though right? So would the Autobots also get branded the same way? or (crack/joke) will it be like G1 where it's attached/ a sticker lol.

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About trio ships what are your opinions of StarOplita, SlipShadowWar or Megawavewave?

Love all 3.

Megawavewave is kind of a given I like Megasound and Megashock and WaveWave so why not? Despite Shockwave's arguable loyalty in some continuities he does seem to still have some degree of amicability with Megatron, G1 especially lol. These two are usually his original and most trusted subordinates...you know what? I can see it, and I like it,underrated though.

StarOplita... I've read a few fics about them, I guess same with Megawaves, I like Starop,Oplita and recently Starlita too so why not?I am actually considering including this is in my Parallex Protocol AU as a side ship because it's funny. Again super underrated, it has potential to be one of my favourite ot3 ships too alongside StarWaveWave and Cywhirlgate, MegOpLita and Starbeeblade, only reason I haven't written anything about it so far is I don't have a good grasp on Elita and Starscream's relationship yet unlike with their relationships with Optimus and with ot3 ships the main rule I follow by is if I don't ship all 3 of them together then I don't ship it all, which I do in this case but I don't have a good dynamic yet.

SlipShadowWar is my favourite ship for all three of them, IDW2 gave me a lot of reason to like it. I would've said a lot more but I don't remember enough about IDW2 to ramble about them for now.

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sooooo triple-S team (Starscream-Soundwave-Shockwave) being the High Guard means that they are far older than Megatron and probably worked with Primes directly… just like Sentinel... And before carrying out his betrayal, he could have tried to rizz them (and fail miserably) so that they would more likely to continue working for him...

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Just something I've thought about, I love how every little redemption Starscream has ever had,(besides maybe IDW where it was mostly Bee and Windblade who did most of the work) there's atleast some plot point where he ends up realizing maybe Optimus is way better than Megatron in terms of how kind he is to his soldiers.

It's in Armada where he admits that while he does still respect Megatron and still does want his approval,he said the first leader who ever showed him integrity was Optimus and that showed him how a true leader was supposed to be it wasn't just about how many battles they won,but about how one treated their subordinates.

It's in Redemption Center where he loses his memory and is pretty much reset to his pre war self he finds himself trusting Optimus and how reasonable and understanding he was,and how Optimus never forced him to stay or leave when Megatron and Soundwave came to get him back,and even after regaining his memory he does still look back on Optimus and takes inspiration (in a horribly twisted Starscream fashion)from it.

Even in the scrapped up plot of Cyberverse there was supposed to be a scene where Starscream messes up on something and Optimus wouldn't immediately beat him up for it and would try to encourage a more positive response that felt alien to him in general.

Then there's this quote from Redemption center.

Just some crumbs 🥹

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Starscream be like : "My psychiatrist said I'm too fixated on revenge. We'll fucking see about that."

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Would it be too much to ask for TFO StarWaveWave headcanons?how do you think they first met? I'm all ears whatever opinion you have. I'm starved.

I was going to say maybe later since I'm very drained atm,then I realized anon you're right, you and I are both starved so here are some headcanons. A lot of my headcanons are actually pre-war/pre-Prime's murder, so I guess could be considered AU-ish because I am desperate for pre canon content of them.

• I like to think they were just acquaintances by the time they first met, Soundwave had been in the High Guard the longest, for the majority of his life actually he had been around the Primes after being taken in by them when the War escalated,he and Sentinel knew eachother at around the same time since Sentinel was but they weren't that close. Soundwave met Starscream first when the latter was a cadet, at the time they weren't really on speaking terms and Starscream was much closer to Sentinel in the beginning before their relationship got strained.

• Soundwave and Starscream started to actually interact as colleagues after Starscream's promotion, they happened to work with each other and while at times they got annoyed with how the other goes around with things, they did start to deliberately seek out eachother during meetings when Zeta Prime's speeches got too long, and when they talked about Sentinel behind his back. Soundwave isn't one to hold a grudge but he doesn't really like Sentinel much either and they got along because of that.

Plus Soundwave was Megatronus' favourite Guard and Starscream was Prima's, so they had additional opportunities where they were "stuck with eachother" so it became a begrudging but eventually amicable friendship.

• They met Shockwave after the latter was integrated into the High Guard to find a new start for himself, after he was rescued from being a Quintesson civilian hostage at one point and became the head scientist. He and Starscream met a while back before that when Shockwave played a role in helping civilian unrest during the war when the overworld cities were destroyed and refugees had to be escorted to Iacon which was moved underground.

• Starscream was the one who visited Shockwave's lab to ramble about things that some soldier did to annoy him and boast about how he made them do extra work,and other things, much to the latter's exasperation since he really wanted to be alone but he never did bring up anything mentioning Shockwave's trauma or anything to trigger it ,overtime it became a kind of habit between them Shockwave even let him join in on his experiments since Starscream always did want to be a scientist but decided his skills could be used elsewhere since it was wartime,he was pretty excited over it.

• Shockwave and Soundwave had a more normal meeting,they met eachother randomly in the hallway before Zeta Prime introduced them, then went on a mission together, they got along and just decided to start hanging out with eachother because they both thought the other was weird and intriguing.

•Eventually,they just started to choose to hang out together, and conveniently got assigned to missions together. Because the Primes also wanted them to get along Starscream caught on pretty fast because he was used to a lot of Prima's very very eccentric requests but somehow those involving his colleagues happened to be way too obvious, but Prima would always brush it under the rug. It was the same with Megatronus who was somehow even worse at acting than Prima, he'd conveniently nudge them to interact with eachother and even make vague comments here and there under the guise of casual conversation. That confused Soundwave.

•Alpha Trion ships them he's not even going to try to deny it as does almost the entire High Guard Thundercracker and Alpha Trion even wrote a fanfic about them during their casual writing sessions Thundercracker would visit Alpha Trion in the archives which was open to the public at that time to talk about his latest works and get feedback,

•Sentinel is pretty bitter about it because the three of them have the nerve to somehow grouping up and isolating him (to bitch about him too), and he doesn't get it, why?what did he do? They hate his guts 😭.

• They were pretty much Amica endurae by that point unofficially, Ravage thinks Soundwave's choices are highly questionable but hey if it's working out for you, that's fine I guess. (Going by IDW's dynamic for Soundwave and Ravage, Ravage was one of Megatronus Prime's aides who took in Soundwave because I thought it would be funny)

• They are not the most emotionally open people, Soundwave and Shockwave actually do talk about those things when they are alone but Starscream is very hard to get to open up, he'd rather stew in his own issues than admit help, he'd sooner notice their problems than notice his own. The Waves convinced the Primes to assign him to a therapist because there was no way he'd agree to go unless it's an order. Starscream knows it's them and he is not happy but he's not going to disobey an order, doesn't mean he won't make very passive aggressive comments to the therapist about them.

•They do occasionally live in a shared apartment for tax reasons, but different beds since they aren't really tactile people unless it's an awfully hard day,their expressions of adoration are more gestures, my interpretation of them is very queerplatonic tbh. But that's just me.

• They argue about anything and everything, they're like an old married couple by how much they argue over the most ridiculous things, they've saved eachother's life more than once during war, it's just a very odd dynamic their strengths do work well when paired, and they do generally get along really well- when they are not arguing over who's turn it is to make dinner or who's strategy or suggestion is the most superior during war meetings.

• The day the Primes died the three were stationed on the city's outer posts, Shockwave had his suspicions but no one believed him,once they received the distress signal by Alpha Trion,almost immediately after they got ambushed by Quintesson ships, Starscream took Skywarp to check the coordinates of the signal and walked in on Sentinel taking out Megatronus cog. Skywarp dragged him out of there before he killed himself by attacking Sentinel, he was barely able to tell Soundwave, Shockwave and the rest of the HG before ordering them to evacuate. It was also when his yellow/blue(undecided) eyes turned red/orange for the first time that was when Shockwave asked him what happened? Soundwave already knew he'd read his mind......and he hated what he heard.

•I like to think while not completely unrecognizable by the time they were in the High Guard they were very drastically different from how they were in the movie, Soundwave was more emotionally open and while he's not proud of it he does use his telepathy on his comrades even without their knowledge at times,something he never used to do unless necessary because he blames himself for being unable to see through Sentinel's intentions even while working so close to him. Shockwave's anxieties were not that intense that was mostly the result of being constantly on the run and the past 50 cycles he's constantly on the analysis of everything wrong that could possibly happen as the surface is very dangerous and having Quintessons and Sentinel tracking them did not help, Starscream was already pretty closed off by the time he initially joined the HG, it took Prima, Skywarp, Thundercracker to get him to start opening up,his paranoia after Sentinel's betrayal intensified as he sees it as a personal failure, I like to think he was pretty reasonable back then and was geniunely a good leader he started to spiral during the exile, most of them did.

•They don't have the heart to really comfort eachother the way they want to because they are all depressed and messed up. They wanted the war to end so bad only to be thrust in another war and then another one(the latter was technically their own choice though when they sided with Megatron but it's still sad).

• If any of them are trying to comfort eachother it's Soundwave, and it's done very subtly. Because he knows Starscream would just get annoyed and lash out or Shockwave may have another emotional break, I like to think the other two do try in their own way but they fall short most of the time.

• Soundwave met Laserbeak when the latter nearly tried to claw out Starscream's eyes when they had to evacuate one of their bases after being compromised and decided "I'm adopting you". Laserbeak deliberately gets on Shockwave and Starscream's nerves but they can't really do anything but complain since Soundwave actually likes him, Rumble and Frenzy come afterwards when the Autobot/Decepticon war actually begins, they are their weird adoptive children.

• Their relationship does get more strained as the war escalates and their differing relationship with Megatron, Soundwave's loyalty, Shockwave's mostly neutrality and starting to lean more on logic as an anchor, and Starscream eventually growing to dislike Megatron. This puts them at odds, and there's a sense of betrayal when they aren't on the same page. At times they do even hate eachother. After the war eventually ends...they need therapy and recounselling to work on their issues, but it got better over time.

• Shockwave did try to fix Starscream's voice after the movie at the latters request but was really only able to fix the pitch a little it's still damaged but it's adjusted so the pitch isn't that noticable unless he's yelling- which he unfortunately does a lot, they did assure him it's not that bad. He gets annoyed at their horrible attempt at comfort but weirdly appreciates it.

• They have their own merch back when they were HG, it was eventually forgotten over time but Starscream is never living it down that he not only voted for himself but he and Shockwave both anonymously voted for Soundwave, they all voted for eachother without the other annoying in different catogaries in a fan poll. They don't bring it up much but it's a funny topic Skywarp and Thundercracker bring up at times before being yelled at to shut up.

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season 2 if i was in charge

(has never watched season 2 or 3 out of spite)

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Help I am so interested in your tf one Starscream/B being swapped au

How did that even happen?like did Bee immediately just ran after Megatron after he left?why did Elita and Op even let him go? And how did the High Guard not notice Starscream wasn't with them?

Hi anon, I haven't really thought too much on this AU left, after exams trust! But I did think of this specific part very early on. I initially made this AU for comedic purposes now I actually have a solid plot for it too.

But basically I just thought Optimus wouldn't really say anything to object if Bee wanted that for himself, they're all grown ups they can make their own decisions but is he still upset about it? Of course, very much it's still painful even if they didn't really know eachother that well, but he respects Bee's decision. Elita thinks this is a bad idea and it will blow up in their faces (she's right),but really she's in the same boat as Optimus except she just tells B to just come back if anything isn't working out, B just brushes her off and skips off after the High Guard. He trails them for hours them unprivy to his presence cue it being night and trying to navigate their way to a new base after Airachnid destroyed their last one. One of them hears something in the bushes they think it's something dangerous that lurks on the surface and to their shock it's just B. Megatron is surprised and grateful to say the least. Skywarp not so much.

As for the High Guard, they kind of assumed Starscream was with them, Soundwave probably knew he wasn't but like assumed he'd eventually come back because Starscream does this a lot when he's feeling delusionally convinced of something and thought Starscream was just taking a break to brood after everything that happened and would be back in a few hours so he just assumed after a while he'd come back when he realized this wasn't working, Soundwave severely underestimated the latter's sheer stubbornness though. The truth is you really can't hide anything from Soundwave he knew Bee was trailing them too he just didn't say anything because again, he's been under the most stress trying to keep everyone from going insane or killing themselves for the past 50 cycles he really just wants a break and thinks it's amusing for the meantime. Up until it isn't.

Bee hiding in the bushes like a monster interacting with the weird local wildlife before scaring the living daylights out of the war veterans, and the other one engaging in corpse desecration and jumpscaring the new Prime and his Commandor who watched a body fall into the Well. A fun way to start an AU, I like to think Bee completely noticed Starscream still there near while he left he even waved(the gesture was not returned) and later casually brought it up when he met up with Megatron and the HG.

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Help I am so interested in your tf one Starscream/B being swapped au

How did that even happen?like did Bee immediately just ran after Megatron after he left?why did Elita and Op even let him go? And how did the High Guard not notice Starscream wasn't with them?

Hi anon, I haven't really thought too much on this AU left, after exams trust! But I did think of this specific part very early on. I initially made this AU for comedic purposes now I actually have a solid plot for it too.

But basically I just thought Optimus wouldn't really say anything to object if Bee wanted that for himself, they're all grown ups they can make their own decisions but is he still upset about it? Of course, very much it's still painful even if they didn't really know eachother that well, but he respects Bee's decision. Elita thinks this is a bad idea and it will blow up in their faces (she's right),but really she's in the same boat as Optimus except she just tells B to just come back if anything isn't working out, B just brushes her off and skips off after the High Guard. He trails them for hours them unprivy to his presence cue it being night and trying to navigate their way to a new base after Airachnid destroyed their last one. One of them hears something in the bushes they think it's something dangerous that lurks on the surface and to their shock it's just B. Megatron is surprised and grateful to say the least. Skywarp not so much.

As for the High Guard, they kind of assumed Starscream was with them, Soundwave probably knew he wasn't but like assumed he'd eventually come back because Starscream does this a lot when he's feeling delusionally convinced of something and thought Starscream was just taking a break to brood after everything that happened and would be back in a few hours so he just assumed after a while he'd come back when he realized this wasn't working, Soundwave severely underestimated the latter's sheer stubbornness though. The truth is you really can't hide anything from Soundwave he knew Bee was trailing them too he just didn't say anything because again, he's been under the most stress trying to keep everyone from going insane or killing themselves for the past 50 cycles he really just wants a break and thinks it's amusing for the meantime. Up until it isn't.

Bee hiding in the bushes like a monster interacting with the weird local wildlife before scaring the living daylights out of the war veterans, and the other one engaging in corpse desecration and jumpscaring the new Prime and his Commandor who watched a body fall into the Well. A fun way to start an AU, I like to think Bee completely noticed Starscream still there near while he left he even waved(the gesture was not returned) and later casually brought it up when he met up with Megatron and the HG.

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Tf One AU idea

What if like Decepticon Bee and Autobot Starscream but it occured at the exact same time?

Imagine Optimus already grieving the loss of his best friend — and then, on top of that, his new friend decides to leave with him too. I get it though; B wouldn’t want anyone to be alone, so he’s not siding with Megatron because he agrees with him, but because that’s his friend. And Optimus just has to sit there and accept it — like, yeah, it hurts, but... oh well. It’s their choice, and he has to respect it.

Then he and Elita turn around — and Starscream’s still there.

After Elita tells him to leave, he just flat-out refuses — for a bunch of complicated reasons he won’t say out loud. But really, it mostly comes down to the fact that he just doesn’t want to. Probably out of pure pettiness, since he’s still bitter about being demoted. He figures there’s no point in going back anyway, and now he wants to start grabbing power here instead.

(Also because he’s secretly homesick and dealing with a lot of internalized issues he won’t admit. And a lot of them are related to the Primes and the nagging sense of guilt which he totally won't admit even under threat, tbh my headcanon is a lot of the High Guard do hold a sense of Guilt of failing at their jobs I think Starscream Shockwave and Soundwave would have it to a greater degree since they were high ranking members)

And technically, the High Guard was supposed to serve the Primes — and from his point of view, Optimus was clearly the stronger one. So why should he leave?

Meanwhile, he’s just conveniently ignoring the whole "participated in terrorism" part.

Now Elita and Optimus aren’t just trying to build a faction from scratch while preparing for a possible war against the Decepticons or Quintessons — they’re also grieving the loss of two friends and stuck dealing with someone who basically has no moral compass left. There goes their mental stability.

Meanwhile, to make things even more painfully ironic, a lot of the Decepticons and old High Guard actually end up liking B. He’s like their weird, annoying little brother — it’s a toxic mess, but some of them genuinely care about him.

Bottom line: they’re having way more luck than Optimus and Elita right now.

Meanwhile, Megatron’s still spiraling, but he’s actually trying to be nice to B — he really does appreciate that at least one of his friends stuck with him. But sometimes, no matter how hard he tries, he just can’t keep it together.

Not that B’s having a great time either. Honestly, the only ones who are actually nice to him are Soundwave, maybe Thundercracker, and a few other bots here and there. (Totally not me pushing my Thunderbee agenda.)

Meanwhile, Shockwave and Elita are both just out here having the absolute worst day of their lives

The thing is, no one’s personalities are actually different in this AU. B still doesn’t really approve of Megatron’s actions — just like in the movie — so he’s not exactly a hardcore Decepticon supporter or anything. He just feels lonely overall, he wants to befriend everyone but they are all either hardened veterans who don't want to talk too much to him or straight up ignore his presence unless it's to do something they want,he wants to talk to D/Megatron but the latter is just acting so distant and he can't even talk to Elita and Optimus either.

He also doesn't like violence too much and is horrified seeing what the decepticons are becoming but feels overall so lonely.

Starscream is still Starscream. He’s still trying to pull the same stunts he used to with Megatron, except now he’s doing it with Optimus — and the difference is, Optimus and Elita absolutely do not put up with his crap. So he has no choice but to back off... though of course, he still makes himself a pain for everyone around him.

And he can’t exactly go crawling back to Megatron either, because at this point Megatron would just see him as a traitor. So Starscream’s basically stuck trying to make the best of the mess he threw himself into, since he really can't go back even if he wanted to since Shockwave and Soundwave are not picking up his calls( because he deliberately ignored their calls) and he's overall not having a good time because he legitimately would not leave even when he was banished Elita forced his ass to do community service including help rebuild some of the buildings he destroyed which he still holds resentment over. Because over 70+ bots destroyed those building why is he the only one who has to rebuild them lol? It took quite a while but he did do it out of spite. (Not entirely by himself because Optimus was feeling sympathetic)

Pushing my Elita/Starscream as rivals agenda they both end up in arguments over battle strategies and straight up every possible thing ever and she is so fed up. I ironically think he would try pulling off most of the stunts on her rather than Optimus because Optimus is Prime no point in trying to challenge that, but he can try to one-up Elita or atleast get on her nerves and she is 2 seconds away from personally kicking him out of Iacon.

Meanwhile, Optimus and Elita just want B to come back home.

There's a lot of pettiness in this AU Megatron thoroughly knows yeah maybe this isn't working out but he just doesn't want to show any weakness Infront of Optimus, so over battle calls he just tries to pretend B is much happier here than with you, Optimus is fine with their choice even if it pains him but like are you really sure about that because B is looking unhappy? Meanwhile Starscream passive aggressive interactions with Shockwave and Soundwave to see how well they are faring without him.

Soundwave is doing perfectly fine actually he's not even mad, he just thinks it's unconventional and kind of funny,Shockwave is mad because he now has to deal with B's ramblings by himself. He and Starscream have petty interactions

"you replaced me with the yellow bug?"

"quit saying that!no one replaced you, you left on your own".

The end result is no one is happy, but everyone has a horrible time adjusting. Resulting in a weirdly different timeline of events. B might eventually defect once he realizes this is definitely not working and if Megatron does something to make him make that choice,I don't know about Starscream yet if in an AU like this would he even have much of a reason to go to the Decepticons besides maybe kinship?

I have the entire outline of this plotted out to a possible 25 chapter fic, but I can only publish it after exams, fun fact I had this idea in January in the literal middle of my mock exams I had free time after finishing the paper and came up with it lol.

I don't know if anyone already made an AU like this but just wanted to share my thoughts. I just thought it would be funny.

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starwaves cuddling after getting the biggest beat down from Optimus prime. it totally beat some sense into them.

Optimus feels bad but is happy they joined his side.

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starwaves cuddling after getting the biggest beat down from Optimus prime. it totally beat some sense into them.

Optimus feels bad but is happy they joined his side.

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Elita ships! Especially tf one Elita,Explain the appeal I don't know how random or controversial I wanna hear them out.

Huh?Is this about that brief mention in my StarWaveWave post. But ok I don't mind she's my recent favourite so I geniunely don't think there's a single "bad" ship/bad as in a ship I don't like on some level atleast. Because more love for her right?

Oplita is my favourite ship for her though because they're the couple ever since g1, I like the mutual trust they have for eachother and their varying differences in leadership, in tf one there's kind of a clash between her pragmatism and his idealism and I find that really interesting. If we do get a sequel their relationship could be explored a lot more from building the Autobot faction and learning to trust one another more, Earthspark and Tf One may have my favourite dynamics between them ngl, Skybound has the angsty part of her wanting to protect their planet and Optimus wanting to protect Earth and this putting them at odds. It's just a classic like MegOp, they could geniunely uplift eachother in a healthy way, also it kind of felt like Orion was hitting on her during the mining scene low-key.

While my friend and I were joking about it we did come up with other random ships I actually find quite interesting/funny.

Megalita/Deelita

I ship MegOpLita so it's pretty much a given that I would like this ship too, I think they might have gotten along better than Elita with Orion at the beginning since D-16 was the one who typically stayed out of trouble, their conversation in WFC trilogy was also a bit of the reason why I think it's an interesting ship he tried to convince her if she was a better leader than Optimus he'd consider joining her side and she said he'd never even make the team. Earthspark has the three of them be like an old married couple and that's kinda cute whether you ship them as friends or not. Because to me shipping isn't just about saying I want certain charecters to kiss.

ChromeLita.

I think Chromia was like her right hand bot in G1 alongside Moonracer and Firestar, they haven't interacted much ever since G1 but I think it's still kinda adorable, there could definitely be a layer of mutual trust and understanding, they've been comrades for a while so I think it's a good ship, underrated tho, I might write a fic for them someday.

Shocklita

I have actually shipped them quite a while before Tf One came out, because of Shockwave's reaction to Elita and her army in g1, just the mere notion of female Autobots being alive was enough for him to short circuit, that and the idea Elita and Shockwave were the higher ranking officers stationed/left on Cybertron so the enmity/rivalry could be either appealing for it's toxicity or just for funsies. Shockwave is really only shippable for me depending on which version of him we are talking about really. Her punching him into submission in TFO was funny and I think that relationship could be kinda cute in concept even if I don't see it happening. The fun thing about ships is who cares about canon just do what makes you happy, ships like these I don't really want it to be canon I like living in my own bubble.

StarLita

Honestly there is literally no reason for me to ship this besides the fact they are my favourite characters,and for comedic purposes I read a good fic about this so I find the concept funny, they're both second in commands, and have opposite personalities, it she can snap Shockwave out of his delusions she can do the same to Starscream they'd hate eachother lol but I can kind of see him finding her the most tolerable(as if he has much room to speak)out of the quartret. But it's still a funny ship, and also weirdly underrated they have interacted I think in several continuities,another guilty pairing I may write a fic for someday. The rivals appeal is there.

Arceelita

I have no idea why I ship this besides me seeing a cute fanart of Arcee fangirling over Elita and looking up to her.

AirLita could be appealing to some people too but it's not really something I ship tbh.

Her and Slipstream could be cute too, I ship this purely because of the TFA Blackarachnia/Slipstream ship.

You asked for random ships you got it.

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Something I find funny about StarWaveWave is you just know all of them believe they are the normal one in their dynamic. While thinking what is wrong with the other two...but newsflash none of them even know what normal means. They're all freaks in their own ways.

Also thinking about something I find it interesting(and funny because of the irony)how depending on continuity Starscream and Shockwave have either a neutral relationship with Soundwave's cassettes or they are just straight up being horrible. These two ignored Soundwave's requests(with Starscream even assaulting Ravage)in Skybound and then there's Regeneration One where they end up saving Ravage after all the decepticons end up dying and Starscream saving Ravage from an undead like state Soundwave.

I love them your honor

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Day something of crying over how similar pre war Skybound Starscream/Ulchtar and amnesiac g1 Redemption center Starscream are, literally my first time reading issue 13 I was reminded of RC. Starscream without his memories and essentially a blank state was just exactly how Ulchtar used to be before Genvo's death and meeting Megatron.

His natural state was so polite,reasonable,intelligent and curious, these traits got morphed into more twisted versions once the war started. I always did wonder why was someone like Jetfire close friends with Starscream in g1? because Jetfire couldn't tolerate a few hours with the decepticons noticing how they were, and if we take RC being a g1 adjacent story it makes sense because Starscream was also a pretty nice/decent person back then.

As I recall redemption center had a whole conversation with the Autobots trying to figure out if there was a way they could influence and reason with decepticons- with some even suggesting brainwashing which Optimus was against- but it was mostly about trying to understand them, by the end Optimus narrowed down that without whatever happened in his past Starscream would have been a different person but it was the past that influenced and changed his personality to the one he currently has, that's why upon remembering despite a part of himself wanting to look at a possible bright future a few moments ago he felt he had no choice but to continue his old ambitions because he at his current state will never able to able to go back to who he used to be. That person is dead,and I think Starscream himself does miss his past self too he seemed partially disappointed that he remembered when Optimus realizes this.

This line especially stood out.

"he knew who he was,knew the inevitability of who he was"

I wonder everyday what would have happened had it been Optimus who met him first instead of Megatron. I wonder what was G1 Starscream's inciting incident like Skybound with the death of his friend. What happened to him after that expedition where he lost Jetfire and before he met the decepticons?

Like not trying to excuse anything,he was always pretty full of himself to an extent,in the he wanted to be validated kind of way but he still had morals and it wasn't borderline narcissism back then.

I wish he just went with Jetfire instead of staying. Not that it would've helped much but maybe then he wouldn't been corrupted due to war in the specific way he did. At the end of the day his actions are still his own and he did hurt so many people but I do still feel bad for him. My war criminal pookie.

Now I'm just wondering it really does add up to his relationship with Jetfire/Skyfire because after Fire in the Sky they literally act like strangers, for Jetfire it makes sense because the guy shot him for dead, but Starscream was acting strange even before that to the point even Megatron pointed it out. Thinking about it it really does make sense why, when he chose to shoot Jetfire it wasn't just a simple act of ending an old friendship, it was him severing the last connection he had to his past self, he chose to discard that part of himself completely that the friend he once spent so long mourning and even searched half the globe for,he had no hesitation shooting that same person down.

It's even more evident when Jetfire asks him if he's happier being a warrior than a scientist, to him of course it is, why would he want to go back to who he used to be? Starscream likely associates his past self with weakness in Skybound's case weakness that allowed Genvo to be killed,weakness of hesitating to kill prisoners for the cause that's why he doesn't like being reminded of his past. And it explains why he's kind of a control freak in a way he hates it when things are out of his control,he hates it when people try to control him so he follows the mentality he'd be even worse than them. Because this world is for the strong, something he told Thundercracker. If you were weak you die or lose what you care about.

And the fact he isn't initially drawn by Megatron when he and Soundwave come to get him back in RC while being in Optimus' care says a lot, a lot of things relied completely on circumstance Skybound Starscream was in a very vulnerable moment when he first met Megatron he just lost one of his best friends,lost his work station and saw Optimus himself shoot Genvo down in the crossfire, then in came Megatron. The panelling of that moment really does give the feeling to Starscream Megatron was like a saviour he was the one who gave him a new purpose in life,who saved him but in reality played the biggest part in his damnation.

The thing is I geniunely do not believe who Ulchtar was would have become the person Starscream is today without Megatron's influence, if he never met the latter and had been left to his own devices he would have continued to suffer for sure and have been a victim of war like Jetfire eventually became in the future, he would've either remained depressed and get more cynical or have died as a civilian later down the line,who he is today is a result of Megatron grooming him into being that way. He didn't show any real signs of wanting revenge until the latter tempted him and even then he was still willing to hold onto his morals up until he was forced to kill those POW against his will.

Megatron himself is a complex charecter and I can see why he also turned out the way he did because of that same cycle of violence but he did play a role in exacting that same pain onto others,same way Starscream in the present is hurting so many people who did not deserve it either.

There are so many gaps in the timeline of G1 SS's backstory I really want to know what the heck happened? This is only clue when he was remembering everything the minute he did he just couldn't stay even if he understood himself that going back was just ruining whatever bridges he could have formed.

Fun fact : Ironically he remembered his backstory upon falling/thrown off a cliff by Soundwave and being in a shock like state,much like RC losing his memory upon falling off a cliff and hitting his head lol. Soundwave also found it so funny he was looping the same footage over and over like a TikTok reel all the while enjoying seeing Megatron crash out over Optimus and having the best time of his life and slightly manipulating Megatron into making efficient decisions. My Boy was winning for once.