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Me pulling up a chair to read every Wednesday S2 theory (Cause yall cookin right now 👀🍿) :

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My theories on Tyler and his Hyde (split personality, just the name of the monster form or repressed darkness)

Over the nearly three years since the show’s release, we’ve discussed hundreds of times what exactly the writers intended for Tyler and his Hyde. Since season two hasn’t aired yet and we don’t have a definitive answer, I decided to gather all my theories about it in one place.

Version 1 - The Hyde is just the name for the monster form

According to this version, Tyler controlled all his actions in the show, except maybe for the first murders he didn’t remember, and everything he did under Laurel’s orders.

This is quite realistic, because many of Tyler’s actions in the series are pragmatic, manipulative, and calculated. This is the version that haters and fans of “dark Tyler” tend to support.

Most likely, if the writers decide to take him down the villain path, this is the route they’ll follow.

However, it’s still entirely possible to justify him here. The police station scene is easy to explain away (see my Police station scene analysis), the crypt and forest scenes are harder but not impossible, if you stretch things a bit. In the crypt, Tyler was clearly waiting for Wednesday to wake up, he wanted her to see him first. Laurel immediately drives him off as soon as Wednesday regains consciousness.

Why? Maybe he was already starting to lose control behind the scenes, and Laurel didn’t want him present for the kill, fearing it would completely shatter him. His joke was about the date, not about her torture. Wednesday strikes right back at his weakest point, stripping him of subjectivity.

I think at that point, Tyler had already resigned himself to seeing her alive for the last time, and that anger and hatred were a defense mechanism. “If I’m going to lose her anyway, better to hate her.” And she had given him plenty of reasons by then.

Then there’s the forest scene. First question - what was he even doing there? Laurel told him to wait by the boat. He was supposed to leave with her and Crackstone, so why was he in the woods?

I see two possibilities: Laurel sent him to confirm Wednesday was dead and finish her off if not, or maybe hide the body. The second option is that he went back of his own accord, under some pretext, just to see her one last time.

Then the question becomes: how well could he control the Hyde? Was there an order from Laurel to kill Wednesday if she was alive, or to kill anyone in the forest? If there was, it explains everything: he couldn’t resist the order.

Tyler pulls Wednesday close, almost like he wants to kiss her or stall for time, but then starts to transform. Did he want to? Or did he lose control? Or couldn’t resist the order? Maybe he even heard Enid approaching and deliberately stalled to give her time to stop him?

Obviously, these are pretty stretched explanations, but they’re still valid.

In my Eadges of Illusions fic I used this version of how the Hyde works (maybe a little mix with ver 3). It’s simple and convenient, doesn’t require diving deep into psychology - unlike my favorite Version 3.

But I think if the show follows this model, we’ll get a dark Tyler with potential for redemption, but not anytime soon.

Version 2 - Classic split personality

Tyler and the Hyde are two separate personalities sharing one body. They identify as different people and sometimes even have separate names (I’ve seen this in fanfics). Laurel’s serum awakened the dormant second personality.

In this case, Tyler might or might not remember what the Hyde does, but he definitely can’t control it. The Hyde obviously remembers everything Tyler experiences, otherwise, certain plot points in the show wouldn’t make sense.

We’ve seen similar concepts in films like Split or metaphorically in Substance - two personalities born from the same person, clashing and refusing to accept they are one.

Here Tyler is clearly the victim. The one enjoying the murders, tormenting Wednesday in the crypt, nearly killing her in the forest is Hyde.

Tyler isn’t necessarily pure good, and the Hyde isn’t pure evil - they’re just two different people with their own needs and desires. Tyler could be a normal guy who loves Wednesday, while Hyde is a psychopath who relishes killing.

I’m not a big fan of this version, but it’s the easiest way to justify Tyler’s actions.

I suspect the show will go with either this or version one, but Version 3 is my personal favorite. It also feels the most realistic and psychologically grounded, though I doubt the writers will dive that deep. But maybe (I hope!) I’m underestimating them.

Version 3 - The Hyde isn’t a separate personality but a mental state or subpersonality

This theory is based on Carl Jung's concept of the Shadow, Robert Louis Stevenson’s Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and the psychological idea of subpersonalities.

Let’s start with a bit of theory.

Jung’s concept of the Shadow refers to the hidden, repressed parts of our psyche. The Shadow contains all the traits, desires, and impulses that we refuse to accept in ourselves and try to suppress or ignore. These can include aggression, envy, fears, passion, weakness - anything that doesn’t fit our “ideal” self-image. The Shadow isn't purely negative. It can also contain repressed talents, desires, and strengths that we’re afraid to express.

Jung believed that for a person to become whole, they must acknowledge, confront, and integrate their Shadow rather than suppress it.

In my view, this concept is exactly what’s reflected in the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Dr. Jekyll wanted to permanently separate good from evil within himself, to become an impeccable person while still releasing his darker desires without consequence. For this, he created a serum meant to “purify” him from evil.

But the serum didn’t work as he expected. It didn’t split good and evil equally - it unleashed his entire repressed dark side, his pure Shadow, embodied in Mr. Hyde. Hyde wasn’t just a part of him. He was the full personification of all Jekyll’s suppressed desires - malicious, cruel, free from conscience. Jekyll, on the other hand, remained a mix: good and evil, but constantly suppressing the latter.

Good couldn’t be separated because a person cannot be purely good without their darker side. But evil broke free entirely. The more Jekyll turned into Hyde, the stronger Hyde became. Eventually, the Shadow took over.

I think something similar happened with Tyler in the show, except he didn’t choose to separate his darker side - Laurel did that to him. And from that moment, both aspects of his psyche became subject to her control.

We can also view Tyler’s situation through the lens of subpersonalities.

Subpersonalities are different parts of a single personality, each with its own roles, desires, and beliefs. For example, a person might have an “inner critic,” an “anxious child,” or a “responsible adult.”

They aren’t fully separate, as in dissociative identity disorder, but they can still conflict.

So, Tyler, like any person, originally had different subpersonalities: a regular guy who wanted love and acceptance, and a repressed, dark, wild side - Hyde.

When Laurel used the serum to separate them, one subpersonality (Hyde) gained full power and freedom, while the other (Jekyll, the regular Tyler) remained weak, suppressed, and exhausted from the internal struggle.

At the start of the series, we mostly see the ordinary Tyler, but as the story progresses, Hyde becomes more dominant.

I believe the breaking point which weakened and displaced Tyler's normal subpersonality was Wednesday’s torture. After that, only Hyde remained (though, again, not as a separate identity, but as Tyler’s dark side without the control of his lighter self).

In general, characters like Marvel’s Hulk or Spider-Man’s Green Goblin are also based on the Jekyll and Hyde concept. In those cases, the serum doesn’t create separate people - it releases the dark side and strips away self-control.

All of this is a metaphor for what happens when we refuse to accept our darker side. In Stevenson’s novel, this refusal led to a tragic ending. But the show could become a kind of fix-it for that story.

In this concept, Tyler’s healing arc would involve accepting his dark side and regaining control.

Specifically:

1. Acknowledge Hyde as a part of himself instead of trying to get rid of him.

2. An open dialogue with Hyde: “Why are you here? What are you protecting? What do you want?”

3. Take responsibility for all actions, including those committed by Hyde.

4. Give Hyde a controlled outlet: creativity, sports, passion, hunting - something where intense emotions can be safely expressed.

Jekyll (and, I believe, Tyler too) struggled because he didn’t want to take responsibility for his dark side. He wanted to either be entirely good or completely surrender to darkness. But true control means saying “I acknowledge both the light and the dark within me, and I take responsibility for how they manifest.”

This perspective also explains why Tyler was drawn to Wednesday. She is a vivid example of someone who accepts her darkness and controls it. Exactly what Tyler lacks. She is perfectly suited to be the person who can help him.

I used this theory in my fanfic Ambivalence.

And I would love for the creators of the show to avoid the easy path and give Tyler a compelling redemption and healing arc.

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I just imagine sometime when Wednesday and Tyler are married with kids, and their teenage daughter goes out with friends or even a date both Tyler and Wednesday would follow her around and it'd go like this.

*Both Wednesday and Tyler hiding in the trees*

Wednesday with a pair of binoculars: Hmm..This boy she's with seems adequate enough.

*Tyler sniffling next to her*

Wednesday: Are you crying?

Tyler: It's just..look how far we've come Wens..we went from stalking our parents..to stalking our kids. 🥹🥹🥹

*Wednesday shakes her head in annoyance*

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Dancing with Tyler Galpin's Shadows

Okay so I was actually going to post about this particular theory before this sneak peak had dropped, but I'ma get this out the way and talk about the sneak peak later.

ANYWAY

I was looking back at pics of Tyler from season 1 and I saw someone mention this a while ago, about how half of Tyler's face was in the dark in a lot of scenes, and I thought that was interesting, because that is probably a form of symbolism for him being the Hyde, he's literally split in half between two different personalities and the lighting on his person reflects it well.

For example...

You see only half of him is present the other half of him is Hyde in a lot of these scenes.

That could symbolize one of two things, either he's in sync with the hyde and they are both acting as one. Or two, it reflects being at odds, or feeling divided about what's happening. Notice in all of these scenes Wednesday is present, and he's quite literally split in two on what to do when he's around her. It's like a part of him doesn't want to lie to her, but the hyde is winning out overall, he has no say.

The reason this is important is because it seems like this is carrying into Season 2 as well.

In these new photos Tyler is once again split right down the middle with the lighting.

But don't let the dark lighting be your only clue.

Instead of focusing on when he's split.

Let's focus on the scenes where he appeared in full light.

Exposed.

Now I wanna start with the times he was fully well lit when he was with Wednesday because this is very important.

Wednesday and Tyler's first meeting..This is one of the most important weyler scenes because Hunter clarified he didn't know who she was in this first meeting, so this is a genuine reaction. He finds her intriguing right off the bat, the smile shows it, but the lighting proves it. He's well lit, you can see his face, his genuine reaction to his first encounter with this odd but interesting girl. He's not hiding his emotions here, he's being sincere.

Tyler is also well lit here, this is the same episode and again he seems fascinated by Wednesday, like he's seeing an outcast who's an outcast live her life the way she wants and embraces her oddness, and I think Tyler can't help but admire that since he cannot fully embrace who it is because it costs a high price.

Oof..the kiss scene, well he is WELL lit here, you can see his full face which makes me believe that this is 100% Tyler at this moment. He has no reason to kiss her at this point, he already had won her complete trust and had gotten Xavier arrested instead of him. His mission was accomplished, but that still didn't stop Tyler from kissing her.

I mean why would you kiss someone you allegedly absolutely hate if you didn't have too for the sake of the plan??

It doesn't make sense unless he genuinely liked her.

NOW

let's move onto moments Tyler was fully lit but only this time we're getting the TRUE image of Tyler who he really is as a whole.

This scene was interesting to me, and it's not talked about often, but there is a LITERAL spotlight being put on Tyler Galpin..and now that I'm looking even closer at this picture...

There is a absolute HUGE shadow of Tyler Galpin behind himself that practically screams..

TWO IDENTITIES.

If you weren't suspicious of Tyler at all this season, this would've been a pretty giant hint that something was amiss here.

He is fully lit, and he looks worried, but it's only later you find out he was worried..but only of getting caught.

Tyler is also well lit at the mayor's funeral..you can see his face in whole, no shadows lurking, this is Tyler as well..you can see the real guilt illuminating off of him as he stares at Wednesday, to me this scene always screamed that he desperately wanted Wednesday to figure it out to help stop him..I truly think the mayors death was one of Tyler's clear breaking points.

Tyler is also well lit in the scene where he's talking with his father and chastises Donovan for not going to therapy with him to the Addams family does with Wednesday. You see him clear here as well and I think this is Tyler fully speaking, he's resentful and maybe a little jealous of both his father and of Wednesday in this scene.

But it's fully him.

Then finally we have this scene and it's interesting he's well lit here, because everything around him is truly dark.

But this is full hyde and Tyler combined, they have fully become one entity at this point, both of them, confused, hurt, vengeful and angry this is a full look at Tyler/Hyde as one.

To Conclude Tyler Galpin and his shadows danced to their own kind of tango most of this season.

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Wednesday at the Galpin House

Imagine Wednesday goes to search the Galpin house and goes in Tyler's room and finds the Snood she left behind at the Gates mansion or maybe even that black rose corsage he never got to give her...

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I’m so glad it wasn’t a pickup. Every skinny white boy I’ve met with a pickup is evil but hatchback ones are just wonky lil guys.

sometimes I feel like the showrunners really fucked up by not giving Tyler a truck a la Bella Swan, but then I’m like no him being a loser in a hatchback works

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Wednesday: Since you continue to act like a child, I am forced to be the bigger person.

Tyler *squatting down to look her in the eye*: I know how hard that is for you.

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Analysis of Tyler's behind-the-scenes storyline in first season. Part 1

Over the past three years, I’ve spent a lot of time wondering what exactly happened to Tyler behind the scenes of Season 1: how he fell into Laurel’s trap, how she awakened him, and how much he actually knew about the plan.

Now, after years of analyzing the show under a microscope, I finally have a fairly coherent picture. I considered writing a fic based on it, but with Season 2 approaching fast, and I'm not gonna make it before the release, so I decided to share it here and later see what I guessed right.

Who is Laurel working for?

Laurel Gates clearly has powerful backers - she managed to change her identity twice and acquire documents good enough to get her hired at Nevermore.

We know that Laurel arrived at Nevermore about a year and a half before Wednesday. At that time, she couldn't have known Wednesday would be coming and that she could use her to open Crackstone’s tomb.

So I believe Laurel had another mission. Most likely: to enslave a Hyde and deliver him to her employers.

Who are they? I think the real villains are somehow tied to Willow Hill. Why?

1. The name Thornhill echoes Willow Hill (thorn and rowan hills).

2. Laurel had a file on Tyler’s mother from Willow Hill. It was a secret file - not the one his father had. Donovan’s file mentioned bipolar disorder, which means Laurel had access to a different source.

3. Laurel couldn’t have learned about Françoise and her son from her father - he died long before Françoise’s Hyde ever emerged, and back then she hadn’t even married and had a different last name. The only ones who definitely knew about Françoise being a Hyde were people from Willow Hill.

So I believe Laurel came to Jericho with a mission to awaken a Hyde and deliver him to the villains connected to Willow Hill - possibly to study and use him as a weapon for their own purposes.Laurel awakened Tyler, but didn’t use him for killings right away. The murders began shortly before Wednesday’s arrival. I believe that’s when Laurel decided to stray from her original mission and pursue her personal revenge - resurrecting Crackstone.

How did Laurel awaken Tyler’s Hyde?

I seriously doubt Laurel told Tyler from the start that she intended to enslave him and use him for mass murder.

I think she told him the truth about his mother - and warned that he could share her fate unless he accepted her help. She promised not to awaken but rather suppress or cure the Hyde. Later, in the cave, Tyler realized she had lied to him.

How much did Tyler know about Laurel’s plan?

At first - almost nothing.Early in the show, it seems like he doesn’t remember the killings. He likely killed in full Hyde form, and Laurel harvested the organs herself. This is supported by the fact that right after the tourist’s murder (which happened when Wednesday arrived), Laurel is seen with muddy boots.

There’s also a sense that after Rowan’s death, Tyler is trying to figure things out himself. He follows his father into the woods and seems surprised the monster didn’t harm Wednesday.Even in his police station monologue, he says he didn’t understand what was happening at first.

When did Tyler realize he was the one killing in the woods and when did he regain his memories?

I think Tyler realized he was the killer after Rowan’s death. This was most likely his first murder not by Laurel's will. Hyde protected Wednesday, who Tyler liked. He acted not by Laurel's orders to protect Wednesday, because Tyler was actually going to take Wednesday away, which goes against the plan.

But I believe he fully remembered everything after the murder at the Meeting House. That’s when we get the bathtub scene.

That scene likely takes place at the Gates mansion. Tyler is screaming underwater, probably because he isn’t allowed to make noise or turn on the lights. But maybe he broke that rule intentionally - using the lights as a distress signal, which prompted Mayor Walker to launch an investigation.

Why does Laurel’s plan make no sense from Tyler’s perspective?

I don't think Laurel's revenge plan is something Tyler would fully support.

Firstly, there’s no way he would willingly agree to being turned into a slave and a murderer. That’s absurd.

Secondly, because the theory that Tyler seeks revenge on Nevermore for his mother makes very little sense.

Françoise graduated from Nevermore before the Hydes were exiled (according to the Outcast Book, she was 19 at the time of the exile in 1993). Her Hyde awakened much later - after Tyler was born.

Also, if resurrecting the dead is truly possible, wouldn’t Tyler want to bring back his mother instead of some insane old Pilgrim?

There’s a chance that Tyler’s mother is still alive, and that Laurel knows it (by the way, we’ve never seen Tyler visiting her grave, which would make sense if she were dead). But if she’s alive, then why would Tyler participate in a plan for genocide?

He’d be more likely to try to find her and save her. In that case, maybe Laurel and Tyler made a deal - she would tell him where his mother was if he helped her carry out the plan.

Still, I find the conversation between Laurel and Tyler (while she was disguised as Weems) very strange.

Laurel says: “I showed you who you really are” (as if that’s a good thing?) and then “Outcasts made you a monster”.

What? Why the outcasts, when it was clearly Laurel?

And if being a monster is a bad thing, why is it good that she “showed him who he is”?

To me, those two phrases contradict each other and make little sense. If anyone has a clearer interpretation, feel free to comment.

To be continued... This is about half of what I've written, so I'll post the second part tomorrow.

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Analysis of Tyler's behind-the-scenes storyline in first season. Part 2

Part 1 is here: https://www.tumblr.com/shadowofthesun123/786182996998946816/analysis-of-tylers-behind-the-scenes-storyline-in?source=share

Why didn’t Tyler try to ask for help or tell everything to Wednesday or his father?

First, he was probably given a direct order not to - specifically not to reveal that he’s a Hyde or who his master is.

Second, I think Laurel threatened to turn him in as a murderer if he didn’t obey. Technically, all the murders would fall on him. Maybe once his memories returned, she revealed the plan and told him that if he helped her finish her revenge, she’d let him go and suppress the Hyde again. If not - she’d expose him and he’d end up in Willow Hill.

This is indirectly supported by the line at the Rave’N, when Laurel is surprised to see him and says, “It’s a small town. It's hard to keep secrets”, which sounds like a threat. Also, Tyler clearly isn’t happy that Wednesday leaves him alone with Laurel.

There are definitely things Tyler did of his own volition - not by Laurel’s orders.

For example, he wanted to steal Faulkner’s diary - he insisted on the date with Wednesday right after learning about the book.

For Laurel, the theft may have been about destroying evidence that Hydes have masters. But for Tyler, it might’ve been an attempt to understand himself - maybe even to figure out how to break the bond with Laurel.

Too bad he didn’t just ask Wednesday to show him the diary again - she likely would’ve agreed.

Why was Tyler so eager to move to “more than friends" with Wednesday?

It’s hard not to notice how much Tyler rushed the relationship with Wednesday. I think he may have done this in order to gain her complete trust, to make sure she had truly fallen for him, so that only then could he open up and ask for help, since taking risks too early wasn’t an option.

I also like the version from my Ambivalence, where after Tyler framed Xavier, he was planning to turn against Laurel, break free, and stay with Wednesday.

Otherwise, it’s hard to explain why he would go to such lengths to win over a girl who was supposedly going to die the next days.

The idea that he just wanted to sleep with her before she died also exists, but I personally don’t like it.

Did Tyler himself frame Xavier? And who was collecting the victims’ belongings?

I think Tyler framed Xavier on his own, without Laurel’s orders. But I do have a lot of questions here.Apparently, starting with Rowan’s murder, someone was collecting the victims’ belongings. It’s unclear how Tyler could have gotten Rowan’s inhaler if he didn’t remember the murder itself. So it might have been Laurel who collected the items. In that case, she could’ve done it to gain another form of leverage over Tyler: physical evidence of the killings (but not the organs, which were needed for the ritual). Then she could threaten to turn him in, using that evidence, if he tried to rebel.

Did Tyler try to resist Laurel at all?

Yes, I believe he did - just not openly. Deep down, I think he hoped Wednesday would figure things out and help him.

He didn’t actively interfere with her investigation - and at times even helped.He gave her his father’s file, which directly links the Addams and Gates families. That’s actually when Wednesday first learns about the Gates.

He also pointed her toward the Meeting House, he was the one who broke the elevator and revealed the basement with the parts of the bodies.I like the theory from the fanfic the kill - that he deliberately went to the Meeting House and transformed from monster back to human in the rain so Wednesday could see the footprints and realize the monster turns into a human.He didn’t kill Eugene - he managed to find a loophole in Laurel’s order, likely because Eugene was Wednesday’s friend.

During the murder of the homeless man, the camera takes several photos of the attacking Hyde. The flashes and shutter sounds were hard to miss. It would have made sense for Tyler to destroy the camera as evidence, but he didn’t. I believe he deliberately left it intact, hoping the photos would end up in his father's hands and push him to finally talk to his son about his true nature. Sheriff likely recognized who was in the pictures. But that conversation never happened. The sheriff chose to keep burying his head in the sand.

After Rowan’s death, the killings stopped for a while. That could’ve been Tyler’s attempt to resist Laurel.

However, I think Wednesday’s torture was a major turning point for him. At that moment, he realized that she wasn’t going to help him - she only saw him as a monster who deserved pain and punishment.

Still, Tyler’s confession at the police station actually goes against Laurel’s plan. (I analyzed this scene in detail before, so here is just a summary):

I think that by this point, Tyler had given up hope that Wednesday would help him - and just wanted her to leave. It always seemed strange to me that the sheriff didn’t press charges against someone who threatened his son with a hammer, but instead told her to leave town. I think that was Tyler’s idea.

People often forget that Wednesday makes a huge mistake here: she assumes Hyde’s master is dead. Tyler can’t tell her directly, but he does try to warn her with the line: “You have no idea what’s coming.”

He also uses his confession to hurt Wednesday - to get revenge for the torture and to scare her so she won’t come near him again. Because he knows Laurel is going to ask him to stop her from leaving.

Tyler doesn’t tell Laurel about the confession - and goes to the train station to stop Wednesday. He probably believes she has already left and safe now. But when he returns to the greenhouse and finds her unconscious and bleeding, he realizes that all his efforts were for nothing. I think that’s when he finally gives up and lets Hyde take full control.

And in conclusion a few random fan theories I personally find interesting:

– The sheriff might be involved in Françoise’s death. It’s possible he shot her - maybe she attacked him or Tyler. That would explain why he avoids talking about her.

– Goody Addams might have had a connection to the Hydes. If Laurel didn’t learn the awakening ritual from Willow Hill, maybe she found it in Goody’s Book of Shadows.

– This isn’t my theory, and it's a little unserious, but I like the idea that Tyler believed a kiss from Wednesday could break the bond with Laurel. It’s a common trope in popular culture: “True love’s kiss breaks every spell”, etc. Maybe that’s why Tyler pushed so hard to be more than friends - to have time to kiss her before the Blood Moon night.

And when the kiss failed, he might have believed Wednesday didn’t truly love him. That breaks my heart. It’s more of a humorous theory, but I still adore it.

– Weems is a very suspicious character. She hired a teacher with fake documents. She apparently knew from the start that monster was a Hyde - possibly even that there had to be a master, but didn’t tell anyone, claiming it would endanger the school. But Hydes are banned from Nevermore, and Tyler wasn’t a student, so how was the school really in danger? She also personally took Wednesday to Laurel on the night of the Blood Moon. She clearly had her own unresolved issues with the Addams family. I’m not sure if the show will explore this storyline, but as for me it’s still very interesting.

I also have a few thoughts about the origin of the Hydes in general - since the whole idea of magical subjugation seems pretty unnatural. But I’ll save that for the next part.

As I write all this, sometimes I think I've totally lost my mind because of Tyler and the amount of controversy in the show. But I hope you found it interesting!

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I think it’s very interesting that, like the majority of outcast society, the majority of Wednesday’s viewership sees Hydes as only what they are vs who they are. How they view Tyler without empathy, without compassion, and how (I’m pretty sure) the viewers of the show will be gaining that empathy and compassion along with the characters.

I’m not sure if the writers did that on purpose, but it’s cool nonetheless.

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Wednesday's signals to Tyler - they were really there

Some people accuse Tyler of gaslighting and claim he somehow convinced Wednesday that she liked him. But there were signals from her.

And I’m not even talking about the way she looked at him or the fact that he was the only one she allowed to touch her. Let's just look at the actions.

When they first met, and he offered to drive her, and she waited an hour for him instead of trying to find someone else.

That same evening, she didn't use Enid’s phone to call an Uber, but somehow found Tyler’s address and sent Thing to him. Afterwards, she waited several more days for the Harvest Festival only to have him as a driver.

She went to Tyler with all her questions, rang the bell just to talk to him. But Xavier was more than willing to help. The moment in Weathervane on Outreach Day makes that very clear. She bluntly said she came to Tyler, even though Xavier had sort of warned her about him before.

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I’ll draw a line here, because the “signals” comment came before the next moments, but even that is enough to justify Tyler’s remark. They really did like each other from the start.

Continuing:

Wednesday changed her plans about the cave so she wouldn’t upset Tyler when he came to the dance.She dragged him to the Gates mansion under the excuse that she needed a car, even though Xavier walked there on foot.In the crypt, during their date, she was ready to kiss him.

Later, she walked alone at night to Jericho just to kiss him.

And then people say there were no signals and she didn’t like him? That’s simply not true.

As for Tyler’s “signals” comment - I believe he meant it sincerely. Laurel clearly didn’t order him to ask Wednesday to the dance; she was shocked to see him there.

Tyler genuinely wanted to go with Wednesday and was clearly upset when she said she’d go with Xavier. After that, he didn’t pressure her. In fact, most of their interactions were initiated by Wednesday.

I don’t understand how that could be seen as gaslighting.

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SHUT UP RN THIS IS SO GOOD! It would be so interesting to see Wednesday possessed by Goody and losing control. It would be the perfect way to make her (and maybe some stubborn fans) empathetic to Tyler’s plight!

While she was surprised by Tyler’s “betrayal” it only proved her worldview that people cant be trusted. Not even being able to trust herself would be the earth shattering thing to really make Wednesday reevaluate herself and grow.

I had made the connection to the Caliban and the Tempest and Prospero but not with the Red Masque. Prospero (in both literary pieces) is definitely going to be the biggest hint towards this season’s antagonist.

I’m so excited!

Howdy Weyler Nation! WS2 Part 2 - Is Wednesday cursed? Who is the killer? What is Tyler's role on that?

As I told on the last post, the only thing I can trust now is those 6 minutes, BUT I will use some isolated scenes from teasers to illustrate some insights. ONCE AGAIN: THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN! IT'S JUST THEORIES. NOTHING IS CONFIRMED. Only for the voices in my head.

Here it lies more questions than answers but I decided to share because there's always someone clever than me (You guys) to helpto crack the code about Wednesday's plot and a possible Weyler's plot as well.

1- Is Wednesday cursed?

In my opinion, NO. But I need to explain: At first, I thought it was a curse, but now I don't think it is anymore. She is crying black tears because she is messing with Goody's book of spell. She is messing with High Dark Magic and she is not able to handle it. She wasn't supposed to cry black tears during a vision while being touched by someone else. She was supposed to trigger visions whenever she wants. But once again, she passed out when the serial killer touched her.

She was supposed to be trained by an ancestor and now she is training herself alone using ancient magic and her mom warned her how dangerous it could be to lead Goody's path and advices.

But another point here is that Goody lives inside her because Wednesday would have died and Goody didn't see any other way. LAUREL DIDN'T PLAN FOR CRACKSTONE TO KILL WEDNESDAY. Laurel just needed some blood. Crackstone's act was a surprise. I guess it was not Goody's intention to live inside Wednesday, but she couldn't do differently. However I guess she had plans to have her revenge in future and probably she thought she could influence Wednesday at some point. But now things took a dark turn....

The fact they both were a Raven shows us how they are powerful witches/psychics but also there is a real possibility they suffer from the same destiny: madness.

Is this girl Goody? hmm... I believe the Black Tears is the consequence of using Raven's powers uncontrollably.

"Secrets can have deadly consequences." As we could see Wednesday hasn't told anyone she's been training alone and I dare to say that she hadn't told anyone Goody had saved her from death as well. NO ONE KNOWS THAT GOODY LIVES INSIDE HER.

So my theory is that Wednesday will lose sense of reality and will lose control litlle by little because we all know she is going to use her psychic abilities to solve the cases, but she will suffer the consequences. She is going to use those powers like there's no tomorrow. She will be drunk by the power and she will overload her systems until the point she gets literally nuts. I think she will do things she won't remember and I dare to say, evil things. She will be out of control.

It would be a clever mirror to Tyler's Hyde. But I'll be come back to him soon.

2- Who is the killer? HERE IT LIES MY BOLDEST THEORY! LOL GET READY!

When Jenna said the Death of Red Masque was as inspiration for the plot, I got curious and I googled it. SPOILER ALERT:

In "The Masque of the Red Death," Prince Prospero attempts to escape a deadly plague, the Red Death, by isolating himself and his courtiers in a fortified abbey. He throws a lavish masquerade ball within the abbey's seven elaborately decorated rooms, each representing a stage of life, to distract from the plague raging outside. At midnight, a mysterious figure, resembling a Red Death victim, appears and walks through all the rooms, culminating in the black room where Prince Prospero confronts him. The prince dies upon confronting the figure, who is revealed to be the Red Death itself, and all the revelers die soon after. 

Today they released a new teaser about Barry Dort and how he is going to lead Nevermore. He is anti normie. He is a proud outcast.

If I was going to theorize something about it, I would say Barry Dort would represent Prince Prospero. But let's not say it literally. Let's say that the fact he is an anti normie and wants to protect the outcast from normies, it would make him to isolate them at Nevemore because in his mind, he is doing the right thing for his community. It's better isolation than integration, because I assume Jericho now is against all types of outcasts after Tyler. I assume the normies can't stand to be near outcasts anymore which complicates the situation once Nevermore is the responsible to prop up the town. Let's move on...

Once the murders starts to happen or even when Tyler escapes form WH, Dort will become more and more protective over Nevermore and students and he will isolate them there eventually. I mean, the outcasts will be first suspects around the crimes And maybe the normies just need an excuse to show how outcast are dangerous and close the school. So I assume Dort will do everything to shield Nevermore and students.

Ok, but what does it have to do with the killer? PAY ATTENTION NOW:

The killer is wearing a RED hood. I assume this person is representing the death according to the reference of the Death of Red Masque. Bart will be so worried about protecting students inside Nevermore that he won't realize that DEATH IS ALREADY INSIDE the school. Yes, I assumed it's a student. and now... WHO IS THE KILLER?

OK, IT'S JUST THEORY!!!! FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!

Have you paid attention that the killer is wearing a doll-face's mask? Who was surrounded by dolls recently?

Yeah, the first thing I noticed, since the beginning, it was how the hands of the killer were small. It made me think it is a girl.

Then i noticed how the killer is short:

We can see the victim is taller than the killer. So the killer knocks the victim down and straddles his chest to choke him.

But what really makes me support this theory is the plot of the death of red masque: the Red Death is the Prince Prospero, THE MAIN LEAD!! The illusion of control is being explored here! Wednesday thought she was in control of her ability and herself, but she was never! She is totally taken by her power and she cant do anything about it. She cannot win anymore and the prediction of Rowan's mother was right: she would destroy the school and everyone in it in one way or another.

Jenna herself said that Wednesday would be in a situation she cannot win.

Yeah, i know it sounds delulu, but who knows?

Another point there is that Wednesday is a celebrity and has a fan named Annie. She looks a bit nuts. Take a look:

OF COURSE IT COULD BE HER AS WELL!!! THE WAY SHE IS CLEARLY OBSESSED WITH WEDNESDAY! LOL

I wouldn't doubt if she is killing some people to get some attention from Wednesday because she know how our girl loves to solve mysteries.

But she could be a red herring as well. Another ginger? Of course she will be first suspect.

3 - What about Tyler? My shayla!

If there's one person who can totally understand Wednesday in the middle of the chaos, this person is Tyler!

He knows how it is feels to do thing you don't remember, to do things you would never agree to do and to be controled by his own power.

I can totally assure he will be the first person to realize that something's wrong with Wednesday.

It would be a great opportunity to show Wednesday and to viewers how Tyler couldn't do anything about Laurel's orders. It would be a chance to clarify how things worked. Because I don't think Tyler agreed with killing people but he couldn't do anything about it. He couldn't stop his Hyde because he couldn't control him just like Wednesday can't control her abilities anymore. She thinks she doesnt' need help and she can do it all by herself, but everybody needs help. Tyler didn't have any and he is the example of how things turned totally wrong. It's more about a development about your emotional issues than the abilities themselves.

What makes me worried is the fact that Wednesday might be his master at some point of the show! But I dont think they will repeat the same old story: Wednesday making Tyler kill. I think they will make things differently now and I have one good theories about them.

I want to talk about Weyler and Tyler tomorrow because I have theories about Wednesday being his master and Tyler is masterless. This post would be massive if I start now. So I'll leave it for tomorrow.

What are your thoughts about my delulu theories? lol

Let me know everything!

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This is so random and absurd but we know people don’t know much about Hydes. Wouldn’t it be hilarious and cute if Tyler could hear "the note only a dog can hear"—the one Wednesday hit and broke that one student’s glasses?

Imagine him getting annoyed and flustered because of how loud and screechy it sounds in his ears.

Even better if she uses it as a danger signal, and only Tyler understands what it means—so he transforms and rushes to her in the woods.

Ajax: Great, he tore my clothes again. I'm not lending him another piece of clothing. He does this every damn time!

Enid: Oh god, are we gonna do this again?! Sure, the overeager puppy act is cute, but I really don’t need to see him butt naked every time!

Bianca: One thing’s for sure—they’re becoming more and more mysterious with the way they communicate.

Eugene: Um, guys? I need a new pair of glasses.

[gallowdancingmuck]

Found this on Reddit, and I’m pretty sure a lot of my friends here can relate lol.

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Every time I’m about to start an analysis, I find more things to analyze.

Right now my eye is twitching about the fact one of the halls is CALIBAN Hall.

Caliban from the Tempest? The man considered monstrous and wild? The only native inhabitant in the main cast? The man representing repression and power dynamics?

…

Would that make Wednesday Ariel?

P.s.

THISBE hall?

As in Pyramus and Thisbe?A couple tragically torn apart about a misunderstanding over a beast (that wasn’t even there)?

The writers are writing.

[gallowdancingmuck]

I think that’s the hardest thing for me to digest about the fandom right now. I’ve never been apart of a fandom (and I’m apart of a lot) where the ship wars are so nasty.

I personally don’t like Wenclair for the pure fact that I see the friendship as purely platonic and think you can deeply love someone and vibe with someone and not have it be romantic. My best friend and I are constantly told we should “just date” cuz we’re so good together, but the romantic/sexual chemistry is just not there. I feel Wenclair is the perfect bestie pairing but I genuinely don’t see the romantic part of it.

But notice how I’m not trashing or attacking it. I just know I like Wyler more.

And it’s SO IRONIC that this fandom is so unforgiving of Tyler. Literally the whole point of the Addams family is despite all their macabre ways they are still good people (they are involved in philanthropy and are a supportive family). Tyler is still a good person he was just put under so much manipulation at a huge area of development. Maybe if they were aged up to be in their 20’s I’d hate him too, but at 16??? Be so for real.

And I’m also really confused by how mischaracterized the Addams family is by the fandom? Like Tyler did Wednesday wrong not because he’s a killer, it’s because he’s a traitor. But even that isn’t true because he can’t help it? Painting the Addams as being so off put by murder and mayhem is so strange to me. Imagine “loving” the extremely nuanced and gothic/horror based family of the Addams without actually understanding nuance or gothic/horror tropes and themes.

Was just thinking that’s it’s actually crazy how so many people hate Tyler. I’m really guessing all the people who do are also under the age of 18 because taking a step back and realizing Tyler is like 16/17 in the show made me so upset.

My job is working with troubled youth and I’m in my early 20’s, to me the 16 yr olds I work with are BABIES.

If you’re an adult who is hating on Tyler’s character I think that’s insane. Empathy may be lost because the actors are older and everything is dramatized and unreal, but step back and just think about it. SIXTEEN AND SEVENTEEN is so small and I’m not even 25 yet.

16 being tied to a cave wall NAKED AND DRUGGED?!?!?! And we see as 17/18 in the trailer he’s chained to the wall in the psych ward? Thats so heartbreaking.