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Laito's Sensitivity

I think what really kills me about Laito's character is that you can tell that beneath it all, he's a sensitive guy. This is not to say he's a good guy. If we must weigh his soul against the feather of Ma'at, Sobek's eating him, okay? I cannot recommend a relationship with this man. But setting that aside, I believe that we see hints as to his character having a 'sensitive' nature throughout the series - that he's not just intelligent in a logical sense, but able to pick up on things, and lives in that awareness in a way which is probably hard to turn off. One of the first things we see him doing with Ayato as a kid is advising him that Cordelia is not interested in his castle. He's sort of laughing about it, but I think that this is because, even at this age, he knows it's kind of futile, and he has that water-like quality where he doesn't batter at a problem but goes at it more subtly. He doesn't yell at Ayato, he knows that wouldn't do anything and would lead to a confrontation that (especially at that age) he wouldn't want. He just wants to plant the seed - but why does he do this? I do think he wants to support Ayato in some small way against his own obsession with impressing her, because Ayato's energy might affect Laito's. We see him quick to console and protect Kanato, too, in ways he never talks about and never tries to take credit for. I have to believe this is because it's instinctual, part of his natural character. Kanato is sensitive, but he's not able to control himself well, and Laito is sensitive, too, so he sort of cares, and tries to regulate the both of them. Even when he's teasing Kanato about needing to (frankly) use sex to add some honey to the trap he's keeping Yui in, he's essentially helping him keep his prey (while simultaneously threatening to take it away.) What really kills me about this, though, is that he was probably trying to 'take care of' Cordelia in whatever way he could, too. He seems to have been keenly aware of how much she wanted Karlheinz and longed for him. One of the things that absolutely sucks about being 'the sensitive one' in a family system is that you are often relegated to be the caretaker of others' emotions - including parents. Look at how Laito relates to Yui. "I know what women want. You all want the same thing. You want me to take care of you, don't you?" Cordelia is the woman he compares every other woman to, and his relationship to her is the model for every other relationship he has with women. Cordelia didn't just corrupt the word 'love' for Laito. She corrupted the natural way he connects to others - through his sensitivity, and his desire to take care of them. Beyond showing him, (possibly in the most literal way,) that the way to 'take care of' her when she was lonely was through sex, she also belittled and degraded him constantly as soon as she was done using him or the second he asked for anything real in return, teaching him that any sort of deep relationship was just asking to get tossed away and hurt. I'm poly by nature, so I don't really understand the nature of the pain monogamous people feel when they see their partners cheating on them, so I'd love thoughts from monogamous people on ways that her doing that in front of him must have affected him. (Besides the obvious - using him as basically a fetish object while he was in prison so that she could feel her own power as she had sex with Richter, or literally telling him she was bored with him so she'd be using other men instead.) My stomach flips a little as I think about this, but one of the things I hate about the things survivors of sexual abuse have to deal with is that a lot of the time, people are completely overwhelmed by feelings when they just think about the notion of sexual abuse. And this stops them thinking about what it must really be like. What I keep concluding as I think about it is that Laito is an essentially sensitive-natured guy, but everything in his life twisted that into the uniquely painful sort of weapon he uses to control girls like Yui.

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I have a serious issue I need to talk to you about, it's about Kat, or @koumukumailife I have screenshots that you need to see, because this involves child safety, you can believe it or not, but we need to keep people safe. I would not be talking to people, if this wasn't important, the short story is, she tried to force minors to join NSFW servers for her to get back in, and she has also blackmailed me. She's mad because she got caught, I even have close up screenshots from those conversations that I saved (over 50 of them, I'll post the main ones here) that people sent me. And screen record from one of the minors who just turned 16 two days ago, She happens to be one of the co-owners of my server, I have no one in my server yet and thank God I do not, because she's done this to two people under 18, she is probably done it to more people, and she doesn't think this is serious and it's lying about it. i am in fact going public with this everywhere that I know she's on and with everyone that I know she knows, because her putting minors in danger and possibly getting them affiliated with pedophiles and things is not okay.

The people under this tag are people I know are also in DL community, and are more well spread than I am, and I need you guys' help to spread the message.

@yuiokamicosplays @bubblespalace @dialovers-lover-xoxo @diabolikloverstranslations @dirtydiabolikloversconfessions @dialovers-translations

Underneath are some of the screenshots that people have sent me, one just turned 16 two days ago, the other is 17. If anyone would like to DM me for more information as well as a lot of more screenshots, you are welcome to, she is putting people under the age of 18 at risk of being groomed by pedophiles, please make everyone aware of this person as she has done this to more people most of us assume.

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dl fandom what do we think about starting an ayayui week? :3

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Hello there!

I'm asking around Diabolik Lovers pages to ask their opinions. So if you see this question on other pages don't think it's a spam I'm just asking for other opinion about the series.

My question is that is it wrong to like the series?

The series is a guilty pleasure of mine. However from what I have seen many are too fond with the series because of the constant abuse Yui is put through, romancization of an abusive relationship, many don't like the sadistic nature of the brothers, and Yui not being able to do anything.

// I do not see anything wrong about liking DL. At the end of the day, it's just fiction marketed towards people with MASOCHISTIC fantasies, and I don't believe DL romanticizes abuse, as some claim. The Diaboys' behavior is not meant to be considered normal or acceptable, because they are vampires and have different morals. Many fans may like living those experiences in the otoge world but would prefer not to do so in reality. And even if they do, they are most likely only interested in being handled in a badly manner as a type of roleplay, which requires actual consent.

The closest thing you’ll get to abuse justification in canon is in Ayato’s LE route, based on how much he suffered there and how his struggles were treated. Nevertheless, fans didn’t let that slide and even boycotted the game due to that route being too disgusting (check this post).

People who don’t want to deal with DO-S vampires, shouldn’t play a game that includes the word DIABOLIK in it. In addition, the Diaboys aren’t the irredeemable monsters some want them to be. Most of them became so nice for real and they end up treating you/Yui right. People act like every other otome game is full of love and sweetness, which is definitely not the case. There are a bunch of love interests who are cruel too, and not only from Rejet games. The main guy of one of the most popular otome games right now literally k!lls a child, decapitates him and sends his head to his sister afterwards. And mind you, he’s one of the softest LIs in that game (love him though). What I’m trying to say is that a bunch of otome games include dark content, but this doesn’t mean people can’t enjoy them because they’re not meant to be taken seriously.

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ok I'm sorry but this take pissed the fuck out of me lmfao. I think its one thing to not like DL and its another thing to believe this take to be normal. I'm going to hold your hands when I said this but there's not such thing as ''normal traumatized people'', people who are traumatized behave differently and you canot put all of us in one singular box because of how different humans are from each other, just like you cannot validate someone as a trauma victim just because theyre ''good people'' and invalide others because theyre ''bad people''. thats not how it works.

Trauma affects everyone differently, and since it affects everyone differently, people are going to REACT differently, people are going to have different trauma responses, different coping mechanisms, and be different in general. You have to take this into consideration even if means that the victims in question can become horrible vicitm due to their trauma.

And while I get what you're saying, referring to vicitims of trauma (fictional or not) as ''unnormal trauma vicitims'' because they commit vile actions is extremely weird.

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I have a question for you regarding the whole seriesbof Diabolik Lovers.

Is it wrong to like the series?

The whole series falls under the dark romance troupe. But many people do not like it due to the fact the constant abuse and torture Yui is put through, how the tragic past of brothers the doesn't justify their actions towards Yui, and the romancitization of a abusive relationship.

Not using Stockholm Syndrome because it doesn't have any psychological trials but was coined by a police officer to discredit a female hostage during a bank robbery.

https://apnews.com/article/stockholm-syndrome-history-origin-023ddcd3a14ac00a0ba88feb838574b3

First of, thanks for the question anon because I really wanted to make post about this exact topic so this is the perfect opportunity!

As of your question, I think we really have to understand, as a fandom, that diabolik lovers is not for everyone and is targeted at a very specific demographic, so of course it makes perfect sense why there's people who would not like the content diabolik lovers has and criticize or hate. Personally, I think that as long you don't normalize, justify, or romanticize the actions of the male characters, as long as you understand that a lot of the stuff the characters do to the protagonist is not okay and is NOT ROMANTIC, you know why there's people who feel uncomfortable by Diabolik lovers and in general you don't defend these types of behaviors and don't view them as romantic..it's not wrong to like Diabolik lovers and I don't think liking it makes you a bad person or a person with questionable morals.

I think anyone should be allowed to like media with problematic stuff without being questioned about their morality as long as the media in question doesn't normalize the questionable things. Which, unlike popular belief, I don't believe diabolik lovers normalize those horrible things, but that's a topic for another post. Anyway, I think we also have to take into consideration that a lot of the people in the fandom got into DL because of the anime (which is a more censored version compared to the games) and not really because of the games (myself included) and not all of them are aware of the bad things the diaboys did to the MC so that's why, till this day, some of them still defend the diaboys, even if its a small minority.

Anywho, I know there's a huge debate (that I personally won't get into) about whether fiction affects reality or not, and because of that a lot of non-DL likers believe DL fans think that type of behavior is okay and that justifies serious situations like SA or torture, which is the opposite (I would like to say that compared to other fandoms, the DL fandom ACTUALLY is aware of the bad behaviors of the characters and do call them out, which you can see countless of posts doing so) because we, in fact, do not (though there are people who justify the actions, but again, it's a small minority)

Is it wrong to like diabolik lovers? No, at least I don't think it's a bad thing. I think DL is one of those series that show you perfectly how victims of abuse can become abusers and do bad things and that not all abuse victims become good people. of course, I agree with anyone saying that their abuse doesn't justify their actions towards Yui but again, it's more of an explanation than a justification, it's the reason why they behaved that way. I think we should also take into consideration that a a fair amount of time has passed between the first games and the diaboys no longer behave like they used to and are way kinder with the mc (at the end of the day, it is an otome game so it makes sense).

I am a firm believer that creators should have the freedom to add a problematic thing (as long as it doesn't normalize it, of course) without spoonfeeding the consumer of how the bad thing in question is bad constantly, because the consumer should already know that and because the media makes it clear that it's bad, and I believe diabolik lovers does that. While reading the translations I always thought that the game made a very clear distinction between what actions were supposed to be romantic and what actions weren't supposed to be romantic. I believe that a lot of the actions of the diaboys did were supposed to show us how bad their past trauma affected them to the point it affected their personality and the way they treat others (not only MC). I think DL in general makes it clear that the behaviors of the diaboys towards the mc aren't okay and, believe it or not, the diaboys do suffer consequences from treating the mc like dogshit lol.

I know a lot of people are not going to agree with this particular take, but taking into account you asked me, I just wanted to put my two and two together on what I personally thought regarding this topic. if you don't like Diabolik lovers and you hate it for being problematic, I don't blame you and I understand why, at the end of the day it's extremely disturbing and definitely not for anyone. Even as someone who has been consuming DL content for years now, it does make me very uncomfortable sometimes and disturbed me to the point there are a lot of translations I never finished reading because I got creeped out lol, but the character development of this game makes it up for those times.

To conclude, no it's not wrong to like DL as long as you're aware that none of the behaviors displayed by the diaboys are not normal nor in any way justified.

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Diabolik lovers but it's now WOKE

The protagonist, Yui Komori is now non binary and you can choose their appearance and pronouns at the beginning of the game (masc ver or fem ver) they are also bisexual and aroace. Ayato is now a transfem aroace bi feminism who uses she/they pronouns and wears a miku binder. Laito is now a french bisexual man, kanato is now a trans woman and is now called kanade, she gets mad at you if misgender her , shu is no longer a romanceable option and is now dating yuma, Reiji is now genderfluid asexual, Subaru now has black hair and is a punk anarchist and makes metal music to speak against the government. Ruki is now a misandrist, Azusa is now a trans woman and no longer a masochist because it's problematic, Yuma is now a demiboy bisexual polyamorous cupioromantic who uses she/they/he pronouns and is also no longer a romanceable option and is dating shu, kou is biromantic demisexual demigirl who uses she/her and is a WOKE artist and has rainbow hair. Carla is now transfem aroace and shin is now a bisexual demiboy polyamorous in a open relationship with kino and the protagonist (if you choose him). Kino is now a bisexual demigender asexual discord mod and is in a open relationship with shin. Karlheinz is now gayheinz and is now genderfluid and gay and in a relationship with socrates. Diabolik lovers is now called queerlovers and no longer has elements of sadomasochism because it's now WOKE.

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BREAKING NEWS: Yui komori has arrived at the met gala and ate everyone else up!’

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This was funnier in my head😔😔

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Rejet knew ruki’s birthday was around the corner so they made sure to draw him extra fine these days.

Bro majored in cuntology from the serving university

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*insert very cool and funny title *

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Laito: Brother, I feel my time is soon.

Ayato: Laito wtf are you talking abou-

Laito: I am afraid that I may behold the light from the pearly gates .

Ayato: why are you talking like th-

Laito: Oh, how I long to walk anew within the garden's embrace.

Ayato: Stop interrupting m-

Laito: Oh, how I yearn to rekindle the fervent nights with my beloveds.

Laito: Verily, brother, dost thou reckon I could wander the gardens once more ere my time draws nigh?

Ayato: Laito it’s just a damn cold you ain’t dying-

Laito: Oh, how I desire to bestow one final kiss upon my beloved ere we part wa-

Ayato: LAITO FOR FUCKS SAKE YOURE A VAMPIRE, YOU AINT DYING, YOU AINT ENTERING THE PEARLY GATES, AND YOU AINT SEEING ANY DAMN LIGHT.

Laito: Damn can’t a bitch be dramatic

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When the trope is two idiots in love 😍

// Yeah… I’m taking it back. Maybe some couples deserve to be bullied, lol. Why are you acting like that with others around?? 😭😭

And mind you, Kanato and Laito weren’t the only Sakamakis who had to witness those scenes——

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Hey just a quick thought but since we can all agree that Kanato is more than a screaming baby and Laito is more than a fake pervert and ruki is more than a cat killer and that they’re all very well written and complex characters then we can all also understand ayato is more than hahaha chichinashi and hahahaha takoyaki and hahahaha I’m dumb and that he’s also a very well written character right guys.

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Quick note: reiji is not that hated on Japan as I thought lol. Just wanted to correct that here 😭

I feel like people underestimate or don’t comprehend very well how fucked up reiji is.

Or well

How his trauma fucked him up BADLY.

Quick question, have you guys noticed that in his own route he doesn’t bother shu that much but in shu’s route he’s like the major antagonist (even more than yuma, dare I say)?

It’s because he can’t stand the thought of shu living a happy life.

That’s why he has no problem killing yui in shu’s bad ending or lying to Yuma, or even setting his village on fire when he was a kid.

He genuinely think he hated shu being happy more than he hated shu himself.

Of course things have changed and they get “along” now, reiji apologizing both to shu and Yuma. But there’s a reason on why he’s not liked very much by the Japanese fans despite this.

Im well aware that he’s not the only mentally insane character in the whole franchise but it still surprises me that there’s people out there who genuinely think he’s mentally sane.

He’s not, and that’s fine, because no damn character in this franchise is lol

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I feel like people underestimate or don’t comprehend very well how fucked up reiji is.

Or well

How his trauma fucked him up BADLY.

Quick question, have you guys noticed that in his own route he doesn’t bother shu that much but in shu’s route he’s like the major antagonist (even more than yuma, dare I say)?

It’s because he can’t stand the thought of shu living a happy life.

That’s why he has no problem killing yui in shu’s bad ending or lying to Yuma, or even setting his village on fire when he was a kid.

He genuinely think he hated shu being happy more than he hated shu himself.

Of course things have changed and they get “along” now, reiji apologizing both to shu and Yuma. But there’s a reason on why he’s not liked very much by the Japanese fans despite this.

Im well aware that he’s not the only mentally insane character in the whole franchise but it still surprises me that there’s people out there who genuinely think he’s mentally sane.

He’s not, and that’s fine, because no damn character in this franchise is lol

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