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1881, Jews rebuilding their ancestral country out of an empty, desolate, malaria infested land. Very few Arabs lived in Israel until the 1920's when the British arrived after the Ottomans withdrew, and some Arabs were drawn to the area for new economic opportunities, from Egypt, Syria, and other Muslim countries. The only Palestinians there were the Jews, many of whom had been there since Judaism was born there 3500 years earlier; small numbers of Arabs also present were called Arabs or Moslems, and did not identify as Palestinians. That came later in 1964 when Nasser and Russia came up with the idea and invented the "Palestinian" people as a weapon against Israel. They recruited Arafat, an Egyptian, to play the role of a "Palestinian" and cultivate a false nation.

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Serious question here: As succinctly as possible, please explain how antizionism is antisemitism, and how Zionism is not a settler colonial project.

In Short:

Zionism cannot be settler colonialism because it is, by definition, decolonization of the Jewish People's (aka the People of Israel's) native lands by its indigenous inhabitants. Inverting the reality of this is bigoted against Jews. Denying Jews their self-determination in their native lands is hateful against Jews. Turning us over to people who openly aim to genocide the Jews is hateful against Jews. Acting like you can separate a core tenant of Judaism that 90% of ethnic Jews agree with, from Judaism and its people, is pretty twisted and hateful against Jews.

But yeah I don't believe in oversimplifying things so... I will expand on this.

In Medium:

Zionism is a belief that Jews should have a nation and self-determination in our indigenous land where all ethnic Jews originally come from. Zionism succeeded in it's goals and currently Israel which currently houses half the world's Jews, most of whom are Holocaust and MENA (Middle East and North Africa)-region refugees and their descendents displaced from genocide and ethnic cleansing to the one place that would accept them. There is a little over 14 million Jews in the whole world and a little over 7 million of them live in Israel.

Antizionism is the belief that half the world's Jews, those 7 million Jews, can go fuck themselves, and their self detetermination. That they can, or should be genocided by their neighbors who have already shed their countries of their Jews, and that they would deserve it, too. That the world's most persecuted group of people have no right to self determination in oir native land, and the children of those who colonized our native land have all the right to self determination in our native land.

That is fucked, and antisemitic.

In Long:

Let's look at the history of Jews.

The Hebrew people who would later be called Israelites and then Jews were by all genetic and archeological accounts, descended and derived from Cannanites and split off to form a distinct culture in the land around 3700 years ago, eventually gaining control of the land somewhat approximating Israel's current borders.

Zionism is defined as the belief that Jews, who have been the most persecuted group in human history, deserve a right to self-determination in a nation in our indigenous land that we came from. Zionism is an old movement found as far back as the Old Testament from Jews who were exiled by Babylonian colonialists from Israel to what is now Iraq in years 597-538 BCE, after which most of the Jews were returned to Israel by Cyrus the Great of Persia. Later Romans would conquer what was by then known just as the Kingdom of Judea, and after a failed revolt in 135 CE they slaughtered 1 million Jews and sent most of the rest of us on slave ships and caravans around the Mediterranean and Middle East, bringing us far out into the world.

They renamed the land Syria Palaestinia, after the Philistines, which translates to INVADERS, who were a likely Phoenecian people who invaded the coast by sea and lived in oddy enough Gaza and that area and warred against the Israelites in Old Testament times and were eventually lost to history as a group 1000 years before Romans arrived.

From then we have yearned for our return. The idea of return to Israel is in our prayerbooks, mentioned as the closing of the passover Seder every year with a "Next Year In Jerusalem!", it is in our religious laws, and many commandments of our religion can only be carrid out in the land of Israel. Our holidays are organized around the agricultural calendar of the Levant with its dry and wet seasons instead of four seasons. In the late 1800s this movement of return to our homeland gained actual political traction in the world for the first time, and meanwhile Jews were returning to Ottoman (read: foreign imperial colonialists) Palestine and Jews were buying land (read: decolonizing) from the Ottoman Empire, and building things like small agraryan communes and even Tel Aviv was built on such a purchase not far from the ancient city of Yafo. Ottomans had ruled for 400 years before their downfall and Jews were Dhimmis, second-class citizens. We decolonized more of our land, and eventually the British took over and mucked about, and then in 1947 the UN votes Yes to a partition plan that would separate the land between the Jews and the children of our colonizers, and Israel agreed to this and Palestine did not. Israel decided fuck that we want independence and declared it with no particular borders established in this declaration. The same day, Egyptian tanks were rolling through Gaza into Israel, and a metric fuck ton of Arab nations join in and invade via Gaza and West Bank, and joined with Palestinian fighters, with the intention to "Drive the Jews into the Sea" and thus there was a war.

The Arabs lost this war they started badly enough that they now call it "The Catastrophe", and were pushed out to 1948 borders which left Palestinians with less land than they would have had if they peacefully split it with us by the Partition Plan.

This nation that the Jews yearned so hard for, for 2000 years straight, became Israel and it has existed as the singular Jewish country for over three quarters of a century now. We successfully decolonized and now have self-autonomy of our native land. Half of us live there. And those who are not Jews who are in our borders? Equal rights, equal everything. 1.6 million Palestinians living peacefully with Jews. 2 million Muslims living peacefully with Jews. Nowhere else in the region. You want to take that away (how? And then what? You saw what happened on Oct 7 and either stayed silent or cheered) and then say you don't hate me and my people? Be real.

Because what would happen if Israel goes away is just more of this:

...but without an army to protect us.

I don't know that every part of Israel's decolonization process has been pretty, or optimal, or free of human suffering. I do not agree with how Netanyahu's government does things, and especially with regards to the West Bank which was (unlike Gaza really to my knowledge) part of our former native territory and we should back off it because just as 7 million Jews aren't going anywhere, neither are the Palestinians, so they should also have autonomy over some of this land. It's not their fault they are the children of Judea's colonizers over the millenia. They have nowhere else to go.

Zionism says nothing at all about what to do with the children of our colonizers, especially when they keep trying so hard to kill us all the time. There's a range of opinions on that, but Zionism itself says nothing about it.

I'd like to say that our decolonization was done without bloodshed. But as I am frequently reminded by the "antizionist" crowd, "decolonization is violent".

Maybe it is. Didn't have to be. Didn't start off that way. Didn't have to do the Hebron massacre of 1927. Didn't have to try to drive the Jews into the Sea all those times and lose creating a refugee crisis. Didn't have to lob rockets at us for decades. Didn't have to do October 7th. Zionism won already, half the world's Jews are in our native lands enjoying our self-determination, and we have an army to defend the Jews now, and if anyone tries to kill us, it will always be their mistake every time. We aren't perfect human beings, but we are human beings, and we deserve self-determination as all peoples do, even if we don't do it exactly the way you want all the time.

Zionism is about Israel as a Jewish Nation existing, and ultimately not so much about what the State of Israel as a political entity does...those things are something else, and support of them or not supporting those things have little or nothing to do with what Zionism is, which is why 90% of Jews are Zionist despite a broader variety of opinions on Israeli politics or Israeli-palestinian geopolitics. The common thread is Jews should have a country in our native homeland.

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Thread: The idea that Arabs loved Jews until the creation of Israel is a widespread and untrue myth. Many believe that Jews were welcomed and lived peacefully among Arabs until the establishment of the modern state of Israel in 1948. This view is not only historically inaccurate but dangerously overlooks the long and painful history of Jewish suffering in the Middle East. Long before Zionism, Jews faced massacres, forced conversions, and expulsions in regions once ruled by the Arabs. In fact, Jews in the Arab world endured centuries of persecution under both Muslim and Ottoman rulers. Here’s a look at some of the most significant massacres and pogroms throughout this period, revealing the true story of Jewish life in the Middle East.

1. The Massacre of the Banu Qurayza (627 CE).

Long before Zionism, Jewish communities in the Middle East endured persecution, including one of the earliest and most harrowing incidents: the massacre of the Banu Qurayza in Medina during the time of the Prophet Muhammad.

The Banu Qurayza, a Jewish tribe in Medina, had entered into a pact with Muhammad under the Constitution of Medina, which allowed Muslims and Jews to coexist. However, during the Battle of the Trench, the tribe was accused of conspiring with Muhammad’s enemies, the Quraysh. After the Muslim victory, Muhammad and his forces besieged the Banu Qurayza’s fortress, forcing their surrender.

What followed was brutal. A tribunal led by Sa’d ibn Mu’adh sentenced all adult males of the tribe to death and enslaved the women and children. To determine who qualified as an “adult male,” boys were subjected to inspections for signs of puberty, specifically the presence of pubic hair. Those deemed adults were executed alongside the men. Historical sources, such as Ibn Ishaq and al-Tabari, report that between 600 and 900 men and boys were killed, their bodies dumped into trenches.

The Banu Qurayza’s women and children were sold into slavery, marking the total destruction of the tribe. This event illustrates the precarious and often deadly position of Jewish communities in the early Islamic period, long before the creation of Israel or the modern conflict in the region.

2/ Granada Massacre (1066) - Al-Andalus (Muslim Spain).

The first well-documented massacre of Jews in the Middle East dates back to 1066 in Granada, part of the Muslim-ruled Al-Andalus (Muslim Spain). After a Jewish vizier, Joseph Ibn Naghrela, was blamed for the death of the Muslim king, the situation escalated. A mob of Muslims, inspired by rumors and political tension, attacked the Jewish population of Granada. Over 4,000 Jews were slaughtered in a brutal pogrom that saw entire families butchered, their homes looted, and their properties destroyed. This massacre was part of a larger pattern of Jewish scapegoating across Muslim-ruled territories during periods of political instability. The massacre marked a turning point for Jews in the Iberian Peninsula, with many fleeing to other parts of the Muslim world for safety.

3/ The Persecution of Jews in Yemen: 1165 to 1679

The Jewish community in Yemen endured centuries of brutal persecution, systemic discrimination, and forced displacement, with two particularly devastating events defining their history before modern Zionism.

In 1165, during the reign of the Muslim leader Abd-al-Nabi ibn Mahdi, Yemen’s Jews faces an ultimatum: convert to Islam or face death. This period marked one of the earliest recorded instances of mass violence against Yemeni Jews. Synagogues were destroyed, and Jewish religious practices were outlawed. While some Jews fled or were forcibly converted, others were massacred for refusing to abandon their faith. This event signified the precarious existence of Jews in Yemen, where tolerance depended on the ruler’s whims.

Centuries later, in 1679, the Yemeni Jewish community faced an even more catastrophic event known as the Mawza Exile. Under the rule of Imam Al-Mahdi Ahmad, all Jews were expelled from their homes and forced into the barren Mawza desert. The journey itself claimed thousands of lives due to starvation and disease. Those who survived the desert exile were not allowed to return to their homes for several years, and when they did, they found their properties confiscated and their communities decimated. This period permanently weakened the Jewish presence in Yemen.

Throughout these centuries, Yemeni Jews were subjected to the degrading status of dhimmi under Islamic law, requiring them to pay exorbitant taxes, wear distinctive clothing, and accept legal and social inferiority. Forced conversions, kidnappings, and violent riots were regular occurrences. Despite these challenges, the community persisted, holding on to their traditions and faith until most were ultimately forced to leave Yemen in the mid-20th century.

4/ The  Safed Attacks (1517).

In 1517, following the Ottoman conquest of the Levant from the Mamluks, chaos erupted in the  city of Safed, one of the holiest cities in Judaism. The transition of power unleashed lawlessness, and Jewish communities became an easy target for violence.

Led by rogue Ottoman soldiers and local mobs, the attacks on Safed’s Jews were devastating. Homes and synagogues were looted and burned, and many Jews were brutally murdered. The violence displaced much of Safed’s Jewish population, forcing survivors to flee to neighboring areas.

Safed had been a center of Jewish learning and spirituality, with a thriving community. The attacks disrupted this flourishing cultural hub and instilled fear among Jews living in Ottoman-controlled lands. This event was one of the earliest indications that even under the Ottomans, Jewish communities would face intermittent violence and persecution, often fueled by local unrest and anti-Jewish sentiment.

The Safed Attacks of 1517 were a sad reminder of how quickly Jewish communities could become scapegoats during periods of political upheaval, long before modern Zionism or the establishment of Israel.

5/ The Tripoli Pogrom (1785).

In 1785, the Jewish community of Tripoli, Libya, endured a catastrophic pogrom instigated by Ali Burghul, an Ottoman officer who temporarily seized power in the region. After overthrowing the ruling pasha, Burghul wanted to consolidate his rule by targeting the city’s vulnerable minorities, particularly Jews.

The violence against Jews was brutal and systematic. Jewish homes and businesses were looted, synagogues were desecrated, and many Jews were tortured or killed. The pogrom decimated the Jewish quarter of Tripoli, leaving countless families homeless and destitute.

While Burghul’s regime lasted less than a year, the damage to the Jewish community was profound and long-lasting. Survivors faced the daunting task of rebuilding their lives amidst persistent discrimination and insecurity. This pogrom was a stark reminder of the precarious existence of Jews in North Africa, where they were often targeted during periods of political upheaval.

The Tripoli Pogrom of 1785 shows you again, the centuries-long persecution faced by Jews in Arab lands, well before the emergence of modern Zionism or the creation of Israel.

6/ The Baghdad Pogrom (1828).

In 1828, the Jewish community in Baghdad, Iraq, was subjected to one of the most devastating anti-Jewish pogroms in Ottoman-controlled Iraq. Tensions between Jews and Muslims had been rising due to a combination of economic envy, political instability, and increasing religious intolerance.

The pogrom began when a prominent Muslim figure, incited by local political and economic disputes, spread false accusations against the Jews of Baghdad. Jews were blamed for a series of issues, including alleged economic exploitation and religious violations, though no evidence supported these claims.

A violent mob quickly assembled, attacking Jewish homes, shops, and synagogues. Many Jews were beaten, and several were killed in the streets. Property was looted, and entire neighborhoods were set on fire. The violence lasted for several days, and it is estimated that several dozen Jews were killed, with many more injured or left destitute.

The pogrom also resulted in mass destruction of Jewish religious and cultural landmarks in Baghdad, severely damaging the local Jewish community’s infrastructure. This event left lasting scars on the Jewish population, contributing to a growing sense of insecurity and vulnerability. While the situation temporarily improved, the event remained a painful chapter in the history of Jewish life in Iraq.

The Baghdad Pogrom of 1828 showed how easily Jews were targeted and scapegoated in times of political and religious tension, long before the rise of modern Zionism or the establishment of Israel.

7/ The 1838  Safed Pogrom.

The second major pogrom in Safed, occurring in 1838, further demonstrated the uncertain position of Jews in the region during Ottoman rule. This wave of violence took place during the Egyptian-Ottoman War, as Ibrahim Pasha’s Egyptian forces temporarily controlled Israel. When Ibrahim’s forces retreated from Safed, local Arab mobs, emboldened by the chaos and lack of authority, turned their fury on the city’s Jewish population.

Over several days, armed bands ransacked Jewish homes, robbed businesses, and desecrated synagogues. Entire families were beaten and humiliated, while women and children were subjected to horrifying abuse. Many Jews fled to the surrounding hills for safety, living in caves or shelters with little food or water, while those who remained in the city faced murder or severe physical violence.

The Ottoman authorities did little to restore order or protect the Jewish residents. The aftermath of the pogrom left the Jewish quarter of Safed devastated, with entire families displaced and ancient synagogues reduced to ruins. Survivors recounted harrowing stories of betrayal by neighbors who joined in the looting and violence. The 1838 pogrom was a traumatic event that further destabilized the already struggling Jewish community in Safed, leading many to consider emigration.

The recurring violence in Safed was a reminder of the vulnerability of Jewish communities in Israel long before the modern Zionist movement emerged.

8/ The 1840 Damascus Affair

The Damascus Affair of 1840 was a horrifying example of the blood libel myth, a baseless and antisemitic accusation that Jews murder non-Jews to use their blood for religious rituals. This particular incident unfolded in Ottoman-controlled Damascus and left a deep scar on Jewish communities across the region and beyond.

The tragedy began when Father Thomas, a Catholic monk, and his Muslim servant mysteriously disappeared. Almost immediately local Christian leaders accused the Jewish community of abducting and murdering them for their blood, supposedly to bake matzot for Passover. The accusation, entirely unfounded, unleashed a torrent of violence and state-backed persecution against Damascus’s Jews.

Under pressure from local Christian clergy, the Ottoman authorities arrested several prominent Jewish figures, including rabbis and community leaders. These men were subjected to brutal torture to extract confessions to a crime they did not commit. Torture methods included floggings, burning, and deprivation of food and water. One man, Isaac Harari, died from the torture, and another, Aaron Monshe Rehama, succumbed to his injuries shortly after being released. The torture yielded forced confessions that only fueled further hysteria.

As rumors spread, mobs looted Jewish homes and desecrated synagogues. The community lived in terror, with many families hiding in fear of further arrests or violence. The situation worsened when the Ottoman authorities imprisoned dozens more Jews, including children, in an attempt to pressure the community into “confessing” to collective guilt.

The Damascus Affair also had international implications. Initially, France supported the blood libel accusations due to the influence of local Catholic leaders. However, prominent Jews in Europe, including Sir Moses Montefiore, Adolphe Crémieux, and Salomon Munk, mobilized a vigorous diplomatic campaign to challenge the lies. They traveled to Alexandria and Constantinople, lobbying influential leaders like Muhammad Ali of Egypt and Sultan Abdülmecid I of the Ottoman Empire to stop the persecution.

Eventually, after months of pressure and mounting evidence of the absurdity of the charges, the surviving Jewish prisoners were released. Still, the community was left in ruins. The aftermath of the affair saw Damascus’s Jewish population diminished and traumatized. Many families fled, and those who remained lived under the shadow of renewed accusations.

The Damascus Affair exposed yet again the fragility of Jewish life under Ottoman rule and the enduring danger of antisemitic myths, this as well happened long before the creation of modern Zionism.

9/ The 1920 Nebi Musa Riots.

The Nebi Musa Riots, which took place during Easter week in April 1920, were among the first major instances of anti-Jewish violence in British-controlled Israel, occurring long before the establishment of modern Israel. The riots shattered the myth of peaceful coexistence between Jews and Arabs in the region and exposed the hostility Arab leaders harbored toward the growing Jewish community.

Nebi Musa was a Muslim religious festival traditionally marked by processions to a shrine near Jericho. In 1920, the festival coincided with Easter and Passover, bringing an unusually large number of Muslims, Christians, and Jews to  Jerusalem. Arab leaders, including Haj Amin al-Husseini (later notorious for his collaboration with the Nazis), used the occasion to incite the crowds against the Jewish community. They spread false claims that Jews were threatening the  Al-Aqsa Mosque and seeking to take over Muslim holy sites, a tactic that would recur in later decades.

The inflammatory rhetoric worked. On April 4, 1920, Arab mobs began attacking Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem. Armed with knives, clubs, and stones, they looted Jewish homes and businesses, burned property, and assaulted Jewish residents. Reports described horrific acts of violence, including the brutal killing of five Jews and the injury of over 200 others. Jewish women were targeted for sexual violence, adding to the community’s trauma.

The British authorities, unprepared for the scale of the violence, initially failed to contain the riots. British soldiers were criticized for their slow response, and some were even accused of sympathizing with the rioters. Jewish self-defense groups, including the Haganah’s predecessors, stepped in to protect their communities, marking one of the first organized efforts by Jews to defend themselves in modern Israel.

The aftermath of the riots further deepened tensions. Haj Amin al-Husseini, though implicated in inciting the violence, received a relatively light punishment and would later be appointed the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, a decision with disastrous consequences. Meanwhile, the Jewish community, already shaken from European pogroms, began to view self-defense as essential for survival in the face of local hostility.

The 1920 Nebi Musa Riots are a powerful reminder that violence against Jews in the Middle East was not a product of Zionism but a reflection of deep hostility toward Jewish communities.

10/ The 1929 Hebron Massacre.

In August 1929, one of the darkest chapters in Jewish history under the British Mandate unfolded in the ancient city of Hebron, where a long established Jewish community had lived for thousands of years. Hebron, considered one of Judaism’s four holy cities, was home to a mix of Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews, many of whom lived peacefully alongside their Arab neighbors, until incitement turned deadly.

Tensions had been brewing for months, fueled by false rumors spread by Arab leaders and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini. Claims circulated that Jews were planning to take over the Temple Mount and destroy the al-Aqsa Mosque. These fabrications were spread intentionally to inflame anti-Jewish sentiment and provoke violence.

On the 23rd and 24th of August, Arab mobs descended upon the Jewish community of Hebron, armed with knives, clubs, and firearms. The British authorities, overwhelmed and unprepared, failed to intervene effectively. Over the course of two days, 67 Jews were brutally murdered, men, women, and children alike. Victims were tortured, mutilated, and dismembered. Entire families were wiped out in their homes.

One of the most horrific aspects of the massacre was the betrayal by neighbors. Some Arabs, with whom the Jews had coexisted peacefully for years, turned on them.

The aftermath was devastating. The Jewish quarter was looted and ransacked. Synagogues were desecrated, Torah scrolls destroyed. Survivors were forcibly evacuated by the British, ending a Jewish presence in Hebron that had lasted centuries. The city, once a symbol of coexistence, became a stark reminder of how quickly incitement and hatred could shatter fragile relations.

The massacre was part of a larger wave of violence that also targeted Jews in  Jerusalem,  Safed, and other areas of Israel during the same period. It was not an isolated event but a symptom of escalating hostility toward the Jewish community, years before the establishment of modern Israel.

11/ The 1941 Farhud Massacre.

The Farhud, which took place on June 1-2, 1941, was a brutal pogrom against the Jewish community in Baghdad, Iraq. The violence erupted during the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, fueled by Nazi propaganda and growing political instability. The Iraqi government, under the pro-Nazi Rashid Ali al-Gaylani, had recently been overthrown by the British, leaving the country in chaos.

Pro-Nazi mobs, fueled by years of antisemitic rhetoric, attacked Jews with brutal force. Over 180 Jews were murdered, and hundreds more were injured. Mobs looted Jewish homes, destroyed businesses, and desecrated synagogues. Women were raped, and many victims were tortured and mutilated.

The British and Iraqi authorities intervened after two days of unchecked violence, but the damage was done. The Farhud shattered the Iraqi Jewish community, marking the beginning of a mass exodus. By the 1950s, most of Iraq’s 150,000 Jews had fled, many of them to Israel.

The Farhud remains a tragic reminder of how quickly a Jewish community, with a history in the region spanning over 2,600 years, could be destroyed by hatred and incitement. It underscored the urgent need for Jewish self-determination, which Zionism sought to provide.

12/ Palestinian Collaboration with Nazi Germany.

During the 1930s and 40s, the Palestinian Arab leadership, particularly the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, formed an alliance with Nazi Germany. Husseini, who opposed Jewish immigration to Israel, wanted Nazi support for his goal of preventing a Jewish homeland. In 1941, he met with Adolf Hitler, where he expressed his admiration for the Nazis’ anti-Semitic policies and urged them to support the Arab cause against the Jews. Husseini also played a role in recruiting Muslim soldiers to fight for the Axis powers, including the notorious Waffen-SS. His collaboration with Nazi Germany, which included attempts to organize massacres of Jews in Israel, contributed to deepening the hostility and violence toward Jewish communities in the region.

Conclusion.

When I started studying and looking up these events, I was shocked by the crazy number of them. I had to choose from hundreds, if not thousands, of such atrocities throughout history. And knowing that each of these incidents means real people, Jewish men, women, and children, lost their lives or endured unimaginable torture, it broke my heart. It’s heartbreaking that, even today, we continue to prove, over and over again, how badly Jews have been treated, and how, in some corners of the world, there are still those who want us to endure even more suffering. The existence of Israel today is a direct result of all these painful events—a nation born out of the ashes of centuries of persecution. Israel stands as a shield, ensuring that Jews will never again face the horrors of those dark days. This history is not just a series of events, it’s a painful reminder of the resilience required to survive and the urgency of remembering so we can prevent such horrors from happening again.

Although not all of the events happened in the Middle east per se, all of them happened under Muslim rule. 

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How would you go about proving to people that most of the land occupied today by modern Israel was not "stolen" or taken from Palestinians in 1945? I remember you posted something about population censuses of the period not adding up to this claim?

sorry I took my sweetasstime answering ur ask, the answer is just Very Long:

First of all u cant prove anything to someone who already made up their mind. if ur talking to someone who isnt stupid then u can show them this cool little trick, which is also a Trade Secret of the Israeli archaeologist - The MapTM. Its a very useful, interactive map made by the delulu side of the conflict, and whats special about it is a base map layer called "Western Palestine, 1870s" (western from what?? owo). pretty sure I linked it preselected but if ur getting a normal, not old-timey map u can select it in the"base map" section on the left of the screen.

This map was made in the 1870s by a couple of cool dudes from the PEF (Palestine Exploration Fund; the Bri'ish), and what they did was basically go aaaallll over the place, documenting every village, town and archaeological ruin in the region, in Arabic, English and Hebrew. the delulu creators of this modern, interactive overlay of this map dumped in every single village that existed in 1945 and tried their best to align it with the villages documented by the PEF, but lo and behold - the majority of these lil dots placed on the map....have no coinciding village from the 1870s; meaning they were established after the 1870s, which coincides with what we read about mass immigration during the late 1800s from all around the Ottoman world into this specific region. This phenomenon of village-dots and no village marker on the map is especially apparent on the coastal plane, central Israel and southern Israel, where most of the dots represent seasonal Bedouin camps, and not villages. Another interesting phenomenon in the map is associating places called "khirbet" with villages, when "khirbet" means ruins, i.e., archaeological ruins. People did not live in ruins, they either left them alone or used them seasonally for herding purposes (camping). Lets look for example at Khirbet Sir - marked as ruins on the PEF map (no red-filled blob that symbolizes villages/towns):

The delulus have decided this was a full on village, when no such village is indicated on the map (or by their own database), and when the PEF described this place like this:

Or if we look at this bundle of dots, all of which were defined by the delulus as villages having been "depopulated" in 1945:

Not a single one of these villages existed in the late 1800s. Not one.

This one I find particularly funny:

It literally says SAND DUNES yet that little yellow dot in the south is a village depopulated in 1948 jhsbdfkjhsdabf where was it in the late 1800s? The 2 dots in the north are btw Israeli cities Holon and Bat Yam, shamefully built over the beautiful Palestinian village of.....sand dunes. The northernmost dot is.....TLV. Shamefully built on top of yet another chunk of purebred Palestinian Sand DunesTM. Other villages we see east of Jaffa (the pink lumps) are mysteriously not mentioned by the delulu dot creators. What are these mysterious pink village lumps you ask? Here, marked in green:

More fun examples:

apologies for linking to The Medium but this article is amazing and is a great source for reference mining for the autists among us, and, it presents multiple bangers such as this:

("which have been erased" = vandalized).

imo this map is an amazing tool that lets u visually see how propaganda aligns with an actual historical source (hint: badly). Look for example, at a village called "Abbasiya". The original name of this place was "Yehudiya" (wonder what that means!), for generations upon generations, and this is also how it was recorded in the 1870s. However, if u click its dot, it will display "Abbasiya", which is the name the villagers gave it in the 1930s as a reaction to Jewish presence in the area, to erase its Jewish roots:

Have fun perusing the map and dont forget me when u become more Knowledgeable and LearnedTM!

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Amin al-Husseini docu: part 1

Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6 | Part 7 | Part 8 | Last

Not that long ago, I mentioned in one of my daily update posts, Amin al-Husseini, the Nazi collaborator, Arab religious leader that shaped the Israeli-Arab conflict more than any other person. I pointed out that there is an EXCELLENT docu series on Israeli TV, which covers Middle Eastern leaders hostile to Israel, and the fascinating ep they did on this man. It's available online and for free, but only in Hebrew, with no English subs.

Well... guess what? I'll do it in fragments, but I want to translate this ep, and then add the subs. Here is part 1:

(for all of my updates and ask replies regarding Israel, click here)

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On the right, a Jewish Israeli policewoman. On the left, Ahed Tamimi, a Palestinian activist who's advocated for the slaughter of Jews.

Next time someone tells you Jews are European you're welcome to show them this photo and remind them over half the Jews in Israel are Middle Eastern or North African.

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Yoseph Haddad & Mosab Hassan Yousef

Love them so much ❤️

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“Jews are willing to give up land for peace.” Bull fucking shit!!! Have you seen what’s happening to the West Bank??? Are you aware of how many Palestinians have lost their homes to Israeli settlers? In settlements that are internationally recognized as illegal!!! This isn’t just an Israeli thing either. Diaspora Jews are being recruited to move to the West Bank but Israeli real estate agents.

“We are NOT willing to bare our necks before the executioner's axe just because Islamists demand it.” But you expect Palestinians to bare their necks for the executioner’s axe because Israel demands it.

Jews are not the fucking victims here. I know Jews have been the victims of a lot of violence throughout history but the situation in Palestine is perhaps the one time in history Jews are the perpetrators.

I see you didn't read or watch a single source I gave to back up my claims, and didn't cite any sources to back up your claims either.

Since you're not going to bother to read, I'll keep it brief:

Are you aware of how many Palestinians have lost their homes to Israeli settlers?

And are you aware of how many Jews were violently driven out of their homes due to Islamic aggression after WWII--mostly in retaliation for Israel being formed?

Are you aware that Jews were living in and around the "West Bank" (historically Judea and Samaria) for centuries before Arab Jordinians invaded and violently expelled all the Jews living there in 1948?

Are you aware that most so-called "illegal settlements in the West Bank" are places where previous Jewish communities were forcibly expelled by Arab armies or militia, and many "Israel? (Or slaughtered, like Jewish community of Hebron in 1929?)

Are you aware that about 2 out of 9 million Israeli citizens are Israeli Arabs--most of whom are descended from Arabs who chose not to leave to make it eas

Meanwhile, most of Israel's current 2.2 million Israeli Arabs are descended from Arabs who chose not and annexed

But you expect Palestinians to bare their necks for the executioner’s axe because Israel demands it.

No, I just want them to stop attacking and trying to kill all Israelis/Jews already.

Like the so-called "moderate" Palestinian Authority's infamous "pay to slay" Martyr Fund, which incentivizes West Bank Arabs to attack and kill Israelis/Jews, since they get more money for every act of violence they commit against "the state of Israel."

Like Hamas firing rockets Israel non-stop after the latter completely withdrew from Gaza and effectively gave them a Palestinian state to run as they please, without Israeli.

Jews are not the fucking victims here. I know Jews have been the victims of a lot of violence throughout history but the situation in Palestine is perhaps the one time in history Jews are the perpetrators.

I want you to stop and think about that for a moment.

What logical sense does that make? "Yeah, Jews were victims of violent persecution throughout history, but THIS TIME all the evil things people say about you and do to you are totally justified!!"

a) Isn't that what antisemites say every time they attack Jews?

b) Have you ever considered that maybe the said extensive history of violent antisemitism might have contributed to Palestinian Arabs being complete hostility towards and refusal to accept a Jewish homeland?

For example: After the Ottoman Empire lost against the European Allies in WWI and ceded territory to the victors, France gained control of "Greater Syria" while Britain gained control of Palestine and Mesopotamia (now Iraq).

About the same time that Britain thought about dividing Mandatory Palestine into an Arab State for the Arab Muslim majority to the east and a Jewish state for the (existing) Jewish minority to the west...

France was ALSO dividing Greater Syria into a larger Arab State for the Sunni Muslim majority, and a smaller state for the Maronite Christian and Druze minority.

Yet, no one ever questions why Arabs grudgingly accepted a state for the Maronite Christian/Druze minority, but threw a raging bitch fit against a homeland for the Jewish minority?

No one ever accuses Maronites/Druze of "stealing Syria land!" but they do constantly accuse Jews of "stealing Palestinian land!"

Speaking of, roughly 3/4 of the original Mandate for Palestine became what is now Jordan, yet no one ever accuses Jordan of "stealing Palestinian land"?

IF NOTHING ELSE, I would like you to AT LEAST read this detailed and well-researched article about historical attitudes and treatments towards Jews in Islamic lands, and how those same attitudes and treatments carried over into the Islamic world's reaction to Jews emigrating to and eventually creating Israel.

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There are minorities in the middle East, Arabs - even the ones living in the dismantled British mandate - are not one.

What the Arabs living in the mandate lands are, unfortunately, just an easy tool to spread your Jew-hatred. Because you never truly cared about any of them.

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This is what indigenous means

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This just in—

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I empathize with the Palestinian people.

They were failed by their elected government, and now that same elected government is using them as human shields.

They have been failed.

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