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I've expressed this to a few people...

But I don't like Roxy's Pesterquest sprite? It's cute as a standalone thing, and would be fine by itself, but as a part of a game where there's already a canon representation of Mom Lalonde without either of them even sharing features aside from the lipstick and pink? It feels off, and she doesn't fit in. Plus, Alpha Rose looks like Rose, so why doesn't Roxy look like Mom Lalonde?

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If you'd disagree, I'd really love to have a DM conversation. Let me repeat, conversation. Let's have a mutually beneficial and polite convo! No name calling, no cuss words, no agression.

This is a side blog, and I can't reply to comments, that's the only reason I'm suggesting it.

DirkRoxy, A Conversation

As I was innocently perusing for beloved pale art of my fave bros, I happened upon the shipping controversy and I've decided to drop down my opinions on the matter.

The DirkRoxy tag is a field of, "Down with Cishet Dirk", ranging from casual annoyance to straight up hate for 'gay erasure'. People attacking poor fools who just want to ship some people. In my book, if it's fictional? Who cares.

I understand the problem though. Dirk is a character that is proven to have been interested in a male character. He doesn't see Roxy as a romantic interest, he just cares about her deeply as a person. That much is obvious. Unfortunately for the people screaming that they're done with DirkRoxy people, Dirk isn't gay. Hear me out before anyone starts slamming down on their keyboards in outrage. I'm not saying Dirk doesn't like boys, I'm not saying he likes girls. Dirk has expressed he doesn't want to use labels. Sure, this may just be him being confused or resistent, but we never got a conclusion to the way he feels about it! He never expressed anything past it. He doesn't want to be referred to as gay, bi, blah, blah, blah.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, I'm not denying that, but there's no reason to blow up in people's faces over the matter. Not to mention, it's a fictional character being represented in a healthy, caring relationship with someone. Who cares, it's just people having fun and drawing two characters they like the dynamic of in a healthy way!! I'm just saying that just because you don't like something, it doesn't mean it's bad. Not to mention the fact that these people who are annoyed about the Dirk x Female things are practically quaking when people say that they're being offensive to straight people for making characters that like the opposite gender gay.

They are.

Many people do it to the point where they even knock out bisexual characters to make them strictly gay. It's a problem, and people should just let others do as they please so they don't contradict themselves or dig a hole. It's a fictional character being represented in a way that may be more comfortable, or just fun, for the person drawing, writing, roleplaying, or jusy fucking vibing.

Anyways, that's my take on it. 👌

Just be respectful, y'all. No need to make it a federal fucking case.

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DirkRoxy, A Conversation

As I was innocently perusing for beloved pale art of my fave bros, I happened upon the shipping controversy and I've decided to drop down my opinions on the matter.

The DirkRoxy tag is a field of, "Down with Cishet Dirk", ranging from casual annoyance to straight up hate for 'gay erasure'. People attacking poor fools who just want to ship some people. In my book, if it's fictional? Who cares.

I understand the problem though. Dirk is a character that is proven to have been interested in a male character. He doesn't see Roxy as a romantic interest, he just cares about her deeply as a person. That much is obvious. Unfortunately for the people screaming that they're done with DirkRoxy people, Dirk isn't gay. Hear me out before anyone starts slamming down on their keyboards in outrage. I'm not saying Dirk doesn't like boys, I'm not saying he likes girls. Dirk has expressed he doesn't want to use labels. Sure, this may just be him being confused or resistent, but we never got a conclusion to the way he feels about it! He never expressed anything past it. He doesn't want to be referred to as gay, bi, blah, blah, blah.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, I'm not denying that, but there's no reason to blow up in people's faces over the matter. Not to mention, it's a fictional character being represented in a healthy, caring relationship with someone. Who cares, it's just people having fun and drawing two characters they like the dynamic of in a healthy way!! I'm just saying that just because you don't like something, it doesn't mean it's bad. Not to mention the fact that these people who are annoyed about the Dirk x Female things are practically quaking when people say that they're being offensive to straight people for making characters that like the opposite gender gay.

They are.

Many people do it to the point where they even knock out bisexual characters to make them strictly gay. It's a problem, and people should just let others do as they please so they don't contradict themselves or dig a hole. It's a fictional character being represented in a way that may be more comfortable, or just fun, for the person drawing, writing, roleplaying, or jusy fucking vibing.

Anyways, that's my take on it. 👌

Just be respectful, y'all. No need to make it a federal fucking case.

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transfem roxy will become real in 24 hours meme is the only thing homestuck tumblr is missing out on from twitter

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“No, the TAVROS FANS on REDDIT are the problem!”

I thought it was about time I fully expressed my take on this the only way I can.

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My Opinions on The Epilogues

So I expect that this isn’t going to go over too well, whether it be because I get absolutely zero attention on this post, or for the fact that I’m literally typing up what is probably a hate post that’ll spark up some, “Oh fuck you.” comments. Either way, I don’t really care about the possible hate to be garnered or anything. I’m here to state my opinion on this, and opinions can’t kill anyone when you’re as weak at arguing as I myself am. Now, this isn’t a fucking logical article, I’m not taking time with comprehensive research and making sure I fact check every little detail because that would involve reading Homestuck for and eighth time and re-reading the Epilogues so I have the biggest refresher in the world. I’m not doing that, so take my sub-par rambles.

Preface over, let’s get into the meat.

My original thought when I heard that the Epilogues came out was initially an eye roll big enough to be like when Hulk smashed Loki in the ground. An arch of, “What the fuck, Hussie.” In other words? I didn’t want to read them. I spent the first few days in agony, complaining about how Homestuck was probably just becoming a money grab, and hearing from other people about the content that  came out.

It.. wasn’t as bad as I expected when I jumped into it. People made a bigger deal about them than I thought was even insanely possible. Let me get this out of the way. I don’t hate the Epilogues. Do I think they were poorly done? Yes. Do I think that the writing was subpar? Absolutely. Do I think that fourteen year olds in their bedroom typing away at shitty fanfiction or roleplaying smut on MxRP/MSPARP have a better grasp on the characterization of each individual character than the people who took over and wrote the Epilogues? 10000%. Still, I thought they were a clever addition to alternate timelines. I had heard from a source they were meant to be a satirical take on fanfiction, and was a mocking poke at the Homestuck community... until Beyond Canon came out.

So here we are now with an 18 year old who’s spent their time on this planet obsessing over Homestuck since before they could read cuss words without feeling embarrassed telling you about how they’re pissed off with some small things that are of no value.

I’m an Alpha Kid Stan(TM) so everything that happened to my sweet babies has made me want to blow my brains out over the walls. Let’s go down the line.

Jane, sweetheart? Who hurt you? Now, I’ll be honest, I rushed through the Epilogues in my, ‘fuck I don’t want to read this but I feel like I need to in order to satiate my burning curiosity.’ mode. Jane’s whole... situation seems really fucked up to me. The color of her text in the EPs is another thing that pissed me off beyond belief, and I’m not sure why. The consistency between comic and canon was draining on my nerves. Jane, in Homestuck, is a whiny teen, but in no way do I look at her and see racist Hitler. Also, what the fuck was up with the clown thing? Why did she have an obsession with fucking Jake? Sure, she was into him before, but wasn’t part of her character arch getting over the buck toothed bangaroo? I thought so. I also thought that Jane was, you know, just a normal girl living her best life. She sure complained, but who doesn’t?? The Jane we’re given in the Epilogues seems to lack the internal dilemmas that the dear, sweet Crocker we’ve grown fond of does. There’s barely a hit of self hate, she doesn’t blow up, and sure we could possibly count this to her being older, but, what? She didn’t seem to be pissed off about the entire existence of trolls in Homestuck. Sure, her time with them was minimal and she didn’t really get all the shit through, but she fought side by side with Kanaya, even. I just don’t see it at all.

Jake. Oh boy. This is a big one. In either case, Jake’s whole thing really bothers me. He doesn’t seem like Jake. He seems like a watered down version of himself that doesn’t even make fucking sense? He’s an aloof dork, but he’s not horrendously stupid, there’s no reason to make him an alcoholic, and why the fuck is he an attention seeking slut? Yes, yes. We could blame this all on Dirk but really, what were the authors thinking? They had complete control over what happens in this and they turn Jake into something he’s not. He had other drives and passions than living out his life as the sexy action movie woman we all need in our lives. Jake’s smart to his own degree, stubborn, and kind of a flirt! He’s not insanely oblivious, either. For instance, I recall a specific moment where he insinuates that Jane was having a wet dream about him in Homestuck. I’m not going to find the quote, but I know it’s there. Jake spent time working on the robot rabbit for John with Jade and outright refused help from some outside sources. Jake is smart! He’s got an extensive vocabulary! He’s just a nerd, and he’s more than an uwu gay boy for Mr. Triangles.

Roxy, oh no. This is where I expect to get the most heat. Roxy is a beloved character. The light of my life and the best of the kids, in my opinion. (I’m an avid Dirk Stan, but Roxy has won my heart truly and thoroughly.) I don’t like the whole trans/non-binary thing. Not because I’m transphobic or anything, because I’m absolutely not. It’s because it feels like it just doesn’t fit with her as a character?? Roxy grew up in isolation in a place without humans, you really think she’s going to have an outright conceptualized view on gender roles and norms? Basic fucking psychology would tell you otherwise. This is something that her brain would have trained her to do based on a societal view. I may not have paid a huge ass amount of attention in psychology, but gender is a thing that’s completely up in the air and taught to us. Roxy didn’t have that. You could argue and say that her house has something of the sort that’d lead her to feel that way, or perhaps she’s learned this all off the internet, but her clothes scream femme and she had to make them herself, is all I’m saying. Again, whatever, go off, make Roxy trans. It’s not a huge deal, but that isn’t the only problem I have. Roxy as a character seems to have just lost her spark. There’s little outright love and enjoyment and adoration for her friends that there is in Homestuck. She’s not your hype go get them loving girl. Again, maybe you could blame this on the fact that they’re all older, but getting older isn’t going to drastically impede your previous personality and make you an entirely different person. They essentially turned Roxy into a watered down version of Dave, but trans. It’s like they couldn’t make Dave trans so they just made a new Dave. It’s annoying to me, and that’s my biggest problem. I love Roxy. I don’t care for Epilogue Roxy. If they had done it right, if they had used specific things from Homestuck, if Homestuck itself keyed in on this or ANYTHING, fine. But Roxy was old enough to question her identity, most people do around 16, and she could have had the opportunity to start representing this already. I mean, who was stopping her? Then the baby stuff. Huh? What? Why? Doesn’t make sense, pass. Her bffsy, brother, and person that cared about her most off and yeets himself from the top of the nearest belltower and all she can think about is copulating with John??? Alright, fam.

Onto Dirk. Y’know what? I don’t have many huge problems with Dirk. I found his personality in Meat really funny, I found the death in Candy absolutely soul crushing. Dirk is a good character. I don’t think they did his personality well, but I don’t think they did any of the characters well. Maybe John. Maybe. Dirk really just sounded like a child who wasn’t getting what he wanted, and it was amusing to say the least. He sounded horrible from the way people talked about him before I read it, but I really just found his overzealous ego entertaining. I found the fact that they made him still totally desperate for Jake kind of annoying though. Dirk broke of their relationship. Dirk was the one who took a moment to realize it wasn’t healthy for either of them, and getting what you want isn’t good. Taking over the narrative and making your ex nearly jizz himself in public is hilarious and all, but also, what??

Alright. Alphas. Let’s move onto Betas.

I skipped a lot of it, not going to lie. Rather than breaking it down for each character like I did with the Alphas, I’m just going to ramble and see where the wind takes. me.

I don’t ship Davekat. I don’t see it working in a romantic aspect. I see them being bros, and it felt really forced in both sides of the story. The homoerotic tension could maybe be smelled for a mile away, but lets not forget something very important. Dave has shown interest in women. Dave was interested in Terezi, he called Roxy and Jane hot, he totally fucking jizzed his jeans for Jade. The fact that so many characters in the Epilogues were exclaiming that Dave was gay, and Dave himself leaning towards the sentiment, didn’t seem to really match up. Dave’s not just pretending to like chicks either, he’s definitely interested in them to the point of being genuinely flustered and embarrassed (I.E The Hot Mom conversation.) So, I don’t really enjoy that. I think the economy shit is cute, his alternate counterpart seemed to have a good hand for business according to the spiel that was made about him, I liked it.

Rose? Didn’t pay a lot of attention to her. The drug abuse shit really pissed me off. Rose in general really pissed me off in the Epilogues. 

John is a can of worms. His characterization was done well, but I guess I just don’t see the point in the two timeline deals. Also, why did he have sex with Terezi? Why was he so much of a baby when the rest of the people around him apparently seemed to mature? Who knows. I sure as hell don’t.

And... then there’s Jade. Poor, sweet Jade. She’s been done dirty almost as much as Jake has, if not worse. She has a dick for one. Yikes. She’s extremely sexually driven, which isn’t something I can see for canon Jade who just wants to hang out and vibe. She’s also so fucking insistent with the “uwu lets date Dave and Karkat” shit that it drives me up a fucking wall. Jade, you should know better! You dated an alternate version of Dave! You dated the OG motherfucker fresh timeline bitch who lost everyone, and sure he was depressed, but I think if I remember correctly you know about all of this???? Hmmmmm!!!! Big questions. It almost leads one to believe she’d know better than to enter into a relationship like this with Dave since it could be emotionally unfulfilling. :))))

Anyways, this entire thing is a can of fucking worms and I don’t suspect I’m going to use this account often aside from shitposting, so have this one uneducated article and if you made it through it and agree, disagree, or what have you, don’t be an ass in the replies? I get it, I’m opinionated and should probably shut my mouth, but it’s the internet and I don’t really care at this point.