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"those asking for 1 or 0 pairings are selfish" anons, do you not realize that people posting those are people with 0 or 1 breedings themselves, where the partner being dropped has been picked up for a 2nd pair? Not only is it unlikely that the pairing will be picked, but then you guys would complain about the partner they're dropping now having gotten 3 breedings when most people only get 1. Why not make 2 overall pickups the norm, instead of most being 1, with a small group having 3?

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post645044870545850368 | Actually there were at least a few who had posted that, but those posts have since been deleted so my assumption is they likely got their pairing. Honestly, idc @ the reason, it's still gross. Not to mention over the course of the event there have been conversations in the server about people seeking partners with 0 or 1 as a tactic to make sure THEY got more. Also, it's GOOD the GAs are making sure everyone gets one, I just don't like seeing people used like that. :(

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So Mana entered kittsunami and got picked up for a double breeding of her own nins. So instead of working something out with the GAs at the end of the event she takes a slot from her community members. Real classy.

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post/645044870545850368 huh?? it was one person. you can't blame them when everyone is on here / the discord complaining about how the whole event is unfair because they haven't been picked, won a flaffle, or someone else got more pairs picked than them. breeding pairs with users who have a lot of elnin get screwed even if their partners have gotten few or no breedings cuz now the GAs feels pressured to avoid them cuz of the one partner

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Ok I missed that you got named dropped. Though you also can’t blame other people from being angry after how the discord thing was handled and to me you were very aggressive and some things were opinions not fact and tbh you could argue that other people were saying facts that you could limit it to one kittom per person or one a round kittom per person so one win per breeding. That’s a suggestion and can be implemented just by having a list of whose won a kittom or breed and not choose any 1/3

more of their pairings and that they can’t enter the flaffle. And is the same for breedings and flaffle. While their are still some people who will get nothing it is still fairer and means a lot more people will get something. It’s also more luck but as it stans people with more Elnin have a higher probability of getting kittoms and can get multiple and isn’t pure luck as they have a weighted advantage with being more likely and having more chances of winning if you have more Elnin and for 2/3breeding. pure luck is everyone having an equal chance. Yes you can be lucky and win multiple though that’s why some people do limit that you can only win one like how Elnin say you can only win one per flaffle and not that people can win multiple. I do agree it’s good that the artists are not going through breedings now. Though what people are saying is just that it could of been handled better. Which does no harm and is just people expressing their opinion or stating facts and is no attack 3/3

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Sorry for piggybacking off @csvent. Not sure how to gain traction tbh

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csvent.tumblr.com/post/644959569983963136/no-one-was-complain-about-not-getting-anything

I was answering to a blog that I got name-dropped in for literally no reason. Ofc I’m gonna be up-in-arms (also, I was mainly addressing the post that I took a quotation from?). I don’t believe I was bitching about anything? mainly spitting facts? And I’m not anonymous. Everyone knows I’m posting under my own name, and not hiding behind anonymous. I think it’s important to take responsibility for what one says, even if I fuck up or something, so I can at least own up to it.  I personally agree on some points. I don’t think the secondary pool was very necessary. If everyone had the same # of chances for breedings to inspire the artists, the mods might have been able to cut back on some of the concerns (also less work/pairs to sift through, and less manipulation of the primaries for max-kittom-output via breedings. NOTE: not accusing anyone, just something I’ve thought about before). The mod team made some great changes for this kittsunami compared to the last one, but there’s always room for improvement. I’m personally also very supportive of the idea of buying/making ones own breedings to build your own family (can we quest this please or something??), but that’s a suggestion for another day. >:)

Other than that, I don’t see any suggestions/etc. that could *actually logistically* make the event fairer. Let’s say 60 unique people got kittoms from the breedings in one “flaffle” round. About half of the flaffle kittoms are for FTO (39/81), so that leaves 42 kittoms for the non-FTO. We have over 450 people registered on the WoE site. Granted, not everyone will enter, but you also have to consider there’s also dA people entering who have not yet registered on the site itself. 42 kittoms to fight over via raffle w/ 300+ other people? what if someone wins the next raffle? are they then barred from entering the flaffles? What about breedings? what if someone gets their breeding selected every single “round”, etc. there’s so many more steps one would have to take the “fine-tune” this idea. Lady Luck is a choosy person/bich. Sure, you can try tugging everything even, but in the end, there’s always gonna be someone who ends up unhappy. (For example, one could suggest limiting to winning 1x flaffle kittom ALL event, but then the people who didn’t submit breedings only get 1x kittom for the entire event, whereas people who’ve submitted pairings could potentially get like…4 kittoms >_> from just breedings (and thanks to secondary pools, 4+ kittoms >_>). Like…Rng man?? or… 42 (kittoms per flaffle) x 4 (number of flaffles)=168. 450 (totalish people?) - 150 (people who’ve entered breedings?) = 300. About half of the people would still get nothing. lmfao).

My MAIN point is this: Kittsunami will not be happening again to this magnitude/extent. There might be MUCH smaller plans in the future, but a full event like this? Not happening again. The suggestions are great, but will never be implemented; the mods are almost definitely not going to be implementing them half-way through the event. So “try to make things fair” is very noble but??? The mods/artists are already trying to cover everyone who’ve submitted breedings. :shrug:

Flaffles are just like any other kind of raffle. RNG. The more people that enter, the slimmer the chances. If these were just normal flaffles w/o the breeding aspect, there will still be people who enter each round and win EACH time or something. Super lucky people. Are you going to complain they are “not making it fair” for other people simply because they have a better luck stat than you? (sorry, i found this very funny…isekai plots and luck…aksjdlfkj i’ll shut up). TLDR; my MAIN point. :’) and also Flaffles are like the lottery ok xd you don’t expect to win it, but you hope you will.

Btw, my DM’s are open if you ever want to chat about this stuff. I know I might sound it, but I honestly don’t bite. And I’m open to discussing stuff like this if you have a different opinion you wanna express :) but ye, just my 2 cents :D

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About Manaberry, whoever supports her on patreon should just stop. It’s not worth it. She’s not worth it. People like that shouldn’t get encouraged with your support because your loyalty means nothing to her. Think about all the money you’ve left on her patreon by now alone by subscribing. I bet that must be a lot for some people. You could buy yourself so many better things with that money. (1/3)

I know you’re after those EC crumbs she’s throwing at you for some sub tiers, but by now you could have just as much bought whatever you wanted to get with them yourself. I know she’s selling growths and myos exclusively there, but you must see how much she’s exploiting you with that whole system. She could easily sell those on DA or the website as well. People would pay the same. She’s literally hiding basic stuff like that behind pricey paywalls while delivering poorly. How is that okay? (2/3)

Your time and effort is worth something too. Most of you work probably pretty hard in order to afford blowing extra money on her patreon, she‘s on the other hand barely lifting a finger while still thinking she deserves all of your support and money. She does not. Stop subscribing. Even if it’s only for 1-2 months. This can’t seriously continue like this. Every single one of you deserves so much more. (3/3)

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+1. Idk where you are looking anon but there are far too many people entering for everyone to get one breeding especially with some people getting two. Even the news article mentioned how big the event is and how they can’t cope with the number of people entering. That’s also just the people which pairings let alone those that don’t have adults, don’t want their Elnin to have canon kittoms (like me) and people who couldn’t find suitable breeding partners like my friend.

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In all honesty, everyone who got picked for a breeding batch shouldn’t be allowed to enter the raffle as well. I saw way too many names of the same people on the list of winners, who already got a batch secured.

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The kittom FTO thing is completely RNG. Why it seems like there's more is there are smaller batches (3 or 4 instead of 5). So now instead of 1 of 3 being FTO its 1 of 2, so half of the primary breedings will be FTO (or LOW LUCK if they run out of FTO by the end of the event). Whereas the 3-kittom breedings will always have theirs be open to everyone. However, it pisses me off that everyone whines about "oh no its FTO" in chat. Yeah, I get it, but let's not push FTOs away? Or be jerks about it?

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Honestly do the same for elnin too. I've seen recently the mods color picking three specs of starlit suffusion and saying they weren't perfect 000000 white in hexidemial codes. Elnin has one standard for mods/GAs and another for members. I don't understand how the standard for GA art is somehow LESS than the standard for normal members. Even though GAs and mods have more power/money and SHOULD be held to higher standards. They wonder why approvals are getting people upset. When people can't even fucking draw their nin the way GAs drew them and the literal designs they paid for cause mods and guest artists get no strictness at all. If a GA wants to correct me pleaee do. Show proof of your GA work getting nitpicked.

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/post/644116373116715008/ tbf elnins runs with like half the crew they need to function properly. idk why they won't hire more people tho

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@half the crew and half the experience anon, are you joking right now? Half the reason those big cs fail like Elnin is because they have half the crew. Most cs use mods that are their friends or have to be overseen by the owner so mods can’t do there work. All people want is some mods that will actually do their work in a reasonable amount of time and not sit around doing nothing and going mia. Most of those mods don’t even have experience. And you don’t even need experience to be a mod. 1/2

All mod duties are tasks are just the official version of what cs members do. Approve myos. When you make a myo you check that everything looks ok. Mods do the same. Answering questions. A big help is to have a site with information which isn’t that hard to set up. Some people do still ask obvious questions which is annoying but easy. If you need help you can use a free template or reference other cs. Most people in the group will mini mod and help each other out. It’s a social media page. 2/2

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"It's CS" is a lousy excuse for awful practices. I stand by my point. You got one kittom in the upcoming wave through a breeding? You're out for the raffle itself so someone else gets a chance. Easy and somewhat fair than that. And yes, this is not only for FTO but for other members who maybe own one or more nins but can't partake in the event themselves. It's very obvious how much you dislike the idea of actual fairness.

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