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Heyy!! What are your thoughts on Jaeherys and Alysanne's daughters?
well when your father looks at you and only sees an incarnation of his own sister-wife because you were put on this earth for him to groom into a future child bride for his sons or summarily disposed of it is a bit of a crazymaking situation.
I think the reason Jaehaerys acted inexplicably genuinely shocked every single time one of his teenage daughters got to marrying age and someone suggested that they get married was because he thought that he was going to be the only man in their lives forever because there is something deeply wrong with him. and then their mom is arranging these crazyass matches with older men to live vicariously through them because she never got to choose a partner, so it really is just a complete and total psychosexual codependency enmeshment nightmare.
-think something had to be extremely wrong with valyrian tradwife never allowed to develop an independent identity Alyssa below the surface. because being named the golden child by responding positively to the grooming telling you to peg your brother and wanting to birth him an entire army of sons before dying at 23 definitely speaks to….something. where else do daemon‘s mommy issues come from
-Daella exists to be a victim and dies giving birth to her daughter who also exists to be a victim. sacrificial lamb parthenogenesis.
-Maegelle got out of everything else simply by being conceived with the explicit intention of being a living tithe. somehow the least crazy situation on this list. 
-I don’t know whether or not it is intentional that Saera is written exhibiting so many of the behaviors indicative of being a CSA victim. hypersexual alcoholic dysregulated fifteen year-old being held down and forced to watch her father chop her boyfriend in half by her mom‘s codependent female bodyguard is an experience you could throw the entire works of Sigmund Freud at and come up lacking. i hope lys was nice.
-Viserra being exiled for absorbing too much of the Targaryen grooming background radiation and getting falling down drunk at 15 before making a move on her brother. this just keeps happening to them. I’m sure it’s a coincidence. insane that Alysanne really felt like she was competing with her own daughter here because I know she was a #boymom with baelon and aemon.
-I think it’s interesting how no one mentions Gael ever again after she kills herself and no one seems to think of her at all given the fact that she’s daemon’s age and presumably would’ve interacted with any of the grandkids. I know it’s because textually she’s just an afterthought, but I think it would be interesting if her yellow wallpaper ass existence and the fact that she is basically a pet for her mother her entire life just sort of renders her posthumously unspeakable. no one wants to talk about what happened to her.
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jorocks30 · 6 days
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that sand movie
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ily king on god we’re gonna get u a razor
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Thank you so much for the sweet comments everyone... 💛 here is the colored version!
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jorocks30 · 16 days
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Prelude to the Riots of King's Landing
My latest chapter, here's a sample - hope you enjoy! Also canon divergence!
With all the Hightowers either dead, captured, or away from the city, the war was not looking good for the Green faction. Otto Hightower, in an attempt to turn the war (and have hands on the next claimant if Aegon were to die), hatched a plot with the Master of Whisperers Lord Larys Strong to spirit away Aegon’s remaining living children. Prince Jaehaerys, Princess Jaehaera, and a kitchen boy called Gaemon were all dressed as squires and led through a secret tunnel underneath the Red Keep by Ser Willis Fell and Ser Rickard Thorne of the Kingsguard. Gaemon would act as a decoy for the prince, as would Jaehaera, if need be. Outside the Red Keep a mob was beginning to form; the cityfolk were famished and desperate from the siege and ongoing plague. Soon the small group was spotted on their way to the shipyards, it was said the cap on Gaemon’s head flew away revealing his pale hair, so alike that of the Targaryens.
The crowd grew hysterical, they had mistaken Aegon’s children for Rhaenyra’s, and assumed the Queen meant to abandon the city. The mob chased them through the city all the way to the fish markets, where the ship to whisk them away was just within sight. By then the knights had killed a score of peasants and were growing haggard and bloody. At last the mob turned angry. Dozens of hands tried to seize the royal children in hopes of ransoming them for passage out of the city, at the same time a fight broke out. Blows were made when the princess was taken a hold of, and Ser Rickard was torn apart trying to make his way to save her. Ser Willis struggled to beat the crowd back until they were finally able to make it to the ship.
Gaemon was bloodied and bruised, he had taken a hit to the temple and was fading in and out of consciousness. The prince was trembling, clearly in shock of the whole ordeal and the abandonment of his twin. It wasn’t until the ship was out to port though, that it was discovered it was Jaehaerys who had been left to the mob and not Jaehaera. It was said his trampled body was found the next morning in the gutters of the River road. Queen Rhaenyra had cried when he was presented to her, says Mushroom, though Eustace said she smiled and sent his body to his mother’s chambers, so she might kiss his face one last time.
It seems Ser Willis had hoped to pass Gaemon off as Prince Jaehaerys once their trio landed in Oldtown, but a week into their journey the boy passed from his injuries. His body was dumped into the Narrow Sea.
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jorocks30 · 17 days
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They currently have my heart atm so here's a quick doodle of kataang💃🏽
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jorocks30 · 18 days
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That last part eats so hard. The entire North going to war for the foster father who could’ve killed her and then after his death, fighting for the foster sisters who have been taken hostage. The fact that everyone is fighting so hard for them when her own father gave her up and forgot her because what else could he do but why didn’t he fight hard enough for her.
okay let's throbb some more. uhhhhhh what if hetero? i know. i know. but please open your heart for a moment. which has more sauce: female robb + male theon or male robb + female theon. i say female theon cause robb has such an incredibly normal relationship with his gender. lil cis boy. also the Gender Troubles are still fun with female theon cause being a woman in westeros is to be in hell. something something the thin line between wife and hostage, sansa parallels, etc.
my heart is opened babe dont even worry. and the thing is throbb has SUCH i wish you were a girl so i could marry you and vice versa. theon who wished he could be loved by ned as a real son and marrying sansa so he can BE a real son well what if ROBB was a girl. and marrying girltheon to robb is a classic way of ending a war. girl hostage theon having to be married off oh the horror of it all. but its robb so itll be fine but its like the principle of it the lack of agency THE HORROR OF IT ALL!!!
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jorocks30 · 18 days
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I was drawing an oc but then it turned into Alicent
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jorocks30 · 19 days
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IN DEFENSE OF JOANNA LANNISTER
The Woman Dies, Aoko Matsuda, Translated by Polly Barton // Beatrix, Elizabeth Sonrel // A Storm of Swords, Chapter 38, Tyrion V
lyanna stark || elia martell || sansa stark || arya stark || alicent hightower || jaehaera targaryen || cersei lannister || myrcella baratheon || joanna lannister
for @joanna-lannister, on whose blog i've been a lurker for an embarrassing amount of time, sorry, ma'am.
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jorocks30 · 19 days
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The voices (Rhaenyra and Amethyst Empress parallels) got me so good this time fanart was produced 😯
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Ta-da! I’ve finally done it, I’m now posting to AO3. If you want to read some nice little tidbits about my OCs please check it out. The story and characters are all based off of one of my CK2 AGOT playthroughs. I hope you enjoy; the stories are mainly character exploration, dynamics, and world building for my little oc story.
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jorocks30 · 26 days
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the assertion that ‘blaming rhaegar in any way for elia’s death detracts from the true culprits, the lannisters, and diminishes the tragedy of her story’ confuses me for several reasons:
You can hold Rhaegar, a grown man who seemingly had tremendous influence over his own father’s Kingsguard to the point where several of them were willing to obey Rhaegar over Aerys, responsible for his inaction (and actions) without blaming Lyanna, a 15 year old captive.
The idea that Rhaegar was helpless before Aerys is absurd when Rhaegar demonstrably defied his father several times- hiding Lyanna’s identity as the KotLT, fleeing with her to Dorne, refusing to return to court for months on end. Rhaegar absolutely could have made some attempt to remove Elia and his children from KL. He was either in denial that they were in serious danger, or simply so fixated on conceiving a living prophecy with Lyanna that he chose not to care.
The claim that the present day Martells do not blame Rhaegar and thus we shouldn’t either is silly. Rhaegar is dead and has been for 15 years. There’s no further vengeance to be sought against him. Tywin Lannister and his cronies are the surviving culprits who have yet to be held accountable when the book series begins.
You can view Rhaegar as a tragic character while still admitting that he made very blatantly idiotic decisions and absolutely helped dig his own grave. Putting all blame for the civil war on Aerys diminishes Rhaegar into a helpless child who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Rhaegar chose when to act and when not to act. He was 24, not a little boy.
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Or my last post alternatively as Sansa! At Joffrey's wedding
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Betrothal portrait of Amanda Arryn (OC from a CK2 AGOT playthru) details below!
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Maybe... the Fire Nation's got a point?
AKA the Katara Willingly Joins Zuko In His Quest To Find The Avatar AU
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asoiaf + old characters, in their youth and now
maester aemon targaryen, brynden rivers/bloodraven, galazza galare (the green grace), old nan, olenna tyrell, maester pycelle, walder frey
Small headcanon for galazza: the books describe white graces who are young girls, implying that it is custom that graces start from a young age; so i assume galazza also was a grace since a young age, and that graces change colors through their education. Further she is the only green grace in meereen (likely the highest ranking grace), implying that she probably had a different color in her youth before she took the position (unless she was chosen/groomed for the position early, but the books for example also dont mention her having any sort of apprentice dressed in green despite her old age). Galazza also has attendants called the “Pink Graces”, so i chose to dress her young version in pink as well; my thought was that maybe the pink graces receive a special education due to their closeness to the green grace (similar to jon being chosen as lord commander mormont’s steward to groom him for command).
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Theon's choice not to visit Alannys was not a choice
Cannot believe it took this long for me to get around to this meta—also, feel free to read my whole spiel about Theon's father figures in Ned, Balon, and Roose here, because it does inform my view.
OK, Alannys Harlaw hours.
The conception of Theon's motivations in the situation where he does not go to see his mother when he returns to the Islands is a bit harsh on Theon. It ignores that Theon has not been avoiding Alannys all these years: he has been kept from her. Theon's access to her has always been controlled by the NedBalons in his life.
I want to get into the idea that this is not happenstance. That Theon's father figures control his access to his mother, which is not even a novel concept in ASOIAF. Jon Snow, who is Theon's foil, also has access to his mother restricted by—woah! Ned Stark as well!! (And both Jon and Theon are expected to be grateful for this too.)
Theon's homecoming to Pyke does not result in him rushing triumphant as the prodigal son into his loving mother's arms because in fact Alannys is not even on Pyke (though Theon thought she would be). Nope, it's Theon's suspicious, resentful, and yes "homophobic" uncle as well as father who Theon meets. From here it is just assumed that Theon has perfect access to Alannys, and that him not hopskipping over to Harlaw is purely his preference. (Are you catching on to the idea that I disagree with this, yet?)
Getting into Theon as a character & how he acts under suspicious/mistrustful eyes:
As a boy, he had lived in fear of Stark's stern face and great dark sword. His wife was, if anything, even more distant and suspicious. [ACOK, Theon I]
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“What I am about to tell you must not leave this room,” she told them. “I want your oaths on that. If even part of what I suspect is true, Ned and my girls have ridden into deadly danger, and a word in the wrong ears could mean their lives.” “Lord Eddard is a second father to me,” said Theon Greyjoy. “I do so swear.” [AGOT, Catelyn III]
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Ned turned back to his wife. “Once you are home, send word to Helman Tallhart and Galbart Glover under my seal. They are to raise a hundred bowmen each and fortify Moat Cailin. Two hundred determined archers can hold the Neck against an army. Instruct Lord Manderly that he is to strengthen and repair all his defenses at WhiteHarbor, and see that they are well manned. And from this day on, I want a careful watch kept over Theon Greyjoy. If there is war, we shall have sore need of his father’s fleet.” [AGOT, Eddard IV]
Theon knows he is not trusted in Winterfell. Catelyn including Theon in this circle of ooh secrets is mostly due to the fact that Robb physically brought him & also because she knows that Theon does not really even have the ability to betray her on this front. He definitely knows that. Ned does not have a paternal relationship with Theon & does not perceive himself as Theon's father any more than Theon believes he is Ned's son (in the manner that Robb or Bran or even Jon is), so why does Theon lie here?
HE IS OVERPERFORMING HIS COMMITMENT TO THE PATRIARCH FIGURE IN WHOSE HANDS HIS LIFE/FUTURE LIES.
Theon predicates his vow to Catelyn with an affirmation of his willingness to do service to Ned, and in fact that's what his access to her relies on. That's probably why he makes such a production of incessantly flirting with her too; because of how it implies he is in Ned and later Robb's good graces! Of course AGOT Theon is also just a flirt for the purposes of producing his masculinity in general. But does anyone really disagree? Moving on.
The door was grey wood studded with iron, and Theon found it barred from the inside. He hammered on it with a fist, and cursed when a splinter snagged the fabric of his glove. The wood was damp and moldy, the iron studs rusted. After a moment the door was opened from within by a guard in a black iron breastplate and pothelm. "You are the son?" "Out of my way, or you'll learn who I am." [ACOK, Theon I]
(Even the damn door is in on it LOL)
Theon knelt. He had a purpose here, and might need Aeron's help to achieve it. A crown was worth a little mud and horseshit on his breeches, he supposed.
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He was playing the part of a dutiful young prince for the moment, while he waited for Lord Balon to reveal the fullness of his plans. [ACOK, Theon II]
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"My father gave me the command here, Uncle." "And sent me to counsel you." And to watch me. Theon dare not push matters too far with his uncle. The command was his, yes, but his men had a faith in the Drowned God that they did not have in him, and they were terrified of Aeron Damphair. [ACOK, Theon III]
THEON IS PERFORMING FOR BALON. His father doesn't approve of him and Theon is playing the part. He is making every overture and concession to obedience, or piety, that is asked of him. Balon, Aeron, Asha, even Victarion make sure he knows when he's failing—whether it's with an express disapproval or just a knowing laugh. Theon notes all of this because due to how he was raised he's extremely perceptive of how those with power over him regard him.
And Balon does not criticize Theon for not visiting Alannys.
"Will I find my sister and my lady mother at Pyke?" "You will not. [ACOK, Theon I]
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Harlaw is only a day’s sail, and surely Lady Greyjoy yearns for a last sight of her son.” “Would that I could. I am kept too busy here. My father relies on me, now that I am returned. Come peace, perhaps...” [ACOK, Theon II]
Theon visiting his mother is not reliant on his own self-motivation, but on whether or not Balon grants him access to her. This is not to say Balon expressly forbade it or that there would have been any direct consequences if Theon had gone over... but it's about goodwill, not permission! What else changes between Theon asking about Alannys when he returns to Pyke and when he explicitly tells Asha that he can't go see her because Balon, because war? Simple: he needs to prove himself to his father as loyal and strong first. To make it explicit, Ned & Robb allowed Theon access to Catelyn in the same manner that Balon refuses (or, at the least, disapproves of) Theon's access to Alannys. Theon is sensitive to this disapproval and does not push the matter.
The only person who pushes Theon to go to Alannys is Asha. Asha obviously has Balon's trust, though, and it could be said she takes it for granted. Asha's level of understanding of Theon is complex; she recognizes him but she doesn't know him. When she says this:
You are blood of my blood, Theon, whatever else you may be. For the sake of the mother who bore us both, return to Deepwood Motte with me. [ACOK, Theon V]
it's actually wild how much is packed in here. For the sake of the mother who bore us both: Theon doesn't yet have the right to Alannys or even know how she'd receive him, given his other receptions on Pyke. Return to Deepwood Motte: the castle Theon believes he should have been tasked with taking above Asha, a concrete proof of his father's mistrust in him, which amongst other reasons spurs on his taking on Winterfell to begin with.
Personally I think Theon as a symbol of Balon's failed rebellion does make him, in Balon's eyes, also a symbol of his failed marriage. Theon does not confirm Baelon's masculinity as a son should, as Asha does. He is a reminder of the ways in which Balon lacks.
I also believe that Theon ~misses his mother, FWIW. He thinks back to his childhood sleeping in the Sea Tower while on his way to Pyke which is a mommy-coded memory; he expects to sleep in his old chambers again when he returns to Pyke—both that and his expectation of seeing Alannys are swiftly disabused. He will not be slipping into his old roles, Theon learns through the reunion with Balon which is violent in more ways than one. It's interesting because Theon actually expects to have to prove himself to his father (which is why he comes armed with a plan for taking Casterly Rock) but he doesn't expect to be punished for having been held hostage all these years.
If we are indulging in symbolism, though:
Above the Sea Tower snapped his father's banner. The Myraham was too far off for Theon to see more than the cloth itself, but he knew the device it bore: the golden kraken of House Greyjoy, arms writhing and reaching against a black field. The banner streamed from an iron mast, shivering and twisting as the wind gusted, like a bird struggling to take flight. And here at least the direwolf of Stark did not fly above, casting its shadow down upon the Greyjoy kraken. [ACOK, Theon I]
The Sea Tower where Theon's childhood memories & hopes for return to his family lie is dominated by his father's banner. At least it's Balon Greyjoy and not Ned Stark, Theon tells himself. Yet the result is the paralleled, mirrored, as Balon and Ned often are with Theon: under Ned's control Theon can't see Alannys because he is Balon Greyjoy's son, while under Balon's control Theon is discouraged from seeing Alannys because he isn't son enough. Perhaps Theon does prioritize the goodwill of his patriarch because he views it as an essential ingredient to his survival and success... but he's also absolutely aware of the role the wife/mother/lady/queen plays in the whole arena too. As power, as leverage. It's pretty plain when you consider that he tells Barbrey she could claim leadership over the North if she so desired. He took such pleasure in being relatively intimate with Catelyn as well.
So, he knows. Yet they're still all held above his head like a little treat. Delicious.
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