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TW for rat experiment nxnxnxnxn

Now I'm 100% sure that Sawyer was the one who not only did experiments on animals with poppy gel but he was successful with it.

First things first. People wrongly assumed (including me at first) that Sawyer didn't write note about rat experiment because the letters were different.

But the thing is this is not how you compare handwriting to determine whether or not it was written by the same person.

Look closely at both texts. They seem at first glance to be too different to be written by the same person, right? But the difference comes from the time both these notes were written.

Rat experiment was written by Sawyer during his time at Young Geniuses Program and he was a teenager at that time. The handwriting actually looks like something that teenager could write. Letters still look like how you learn to write in school.

Note about Yarnaby was written by Sawyer when he was working at Playtime Co and he was adult then. The handwriting changed - letters are written in simpler style probably from years of writing thanks to the profession he chose. Hence why capital letters like "a" or "s" are now written as bigger versions of lowercase letters. Because it's simpler to write them in this way.

We can see that Sawyer found his own style and his handwriting is now more confident and stylized compared to his handwriting from teenage years.

And what's most important when you compare handwriting? You have to find unique qualities of ones handwriting. And we can see that in both notes letters written in one word are connected and letters are leaning in the same direction though it became more apparent in his adult handwriting.

Changing of handwriting over time is completely normal thing. It happens to everyone.

And another thing. You can't say from one letter that thing was written by the same person. I'm talking about how many people (including me at first) believe that rat experiment was written by Elliot solely because the letter "E" is the same. It's not how this works. And I admit that I was wrong when I thought that Elliot wrote that note.

I know that I talked about it already in one of my posts but I wanted to make this clear because it's important that Sawyer was the one who discovered the scientific breakthrough of bringing dead back to life.

Why it's important?

Because I realized that the only thing everyone saw in Sawyer was his intellect and that everyone used him and then betrayed him later (or in Leith's case earlier).

We don't know what exactly happened between Elliot and Harley. But we can conclude this based on hints and more importantly from narrative standpoint.

So what we know for a fact is that Sawyer survived two times solely thanks to his intellect: 1) Leith didn't kill him but turned him into an experiment because he needed Sawyer's knowledge and unique capabilities; 2) the Prototype didn't kill him because he needed Sawyer's knowledge that he lacked - cause it was pointed out rather clearly that the Prototype would need too much time to first learn things that Sawyer already knew before he'll be able to crack the secret on his own and he didn't have that much time; Sawyer on the other hand already had a lot of knowledge on the matter which was what the Prototype needed.

In both these cases Sawyer was used for his intellect and betrayed 1) by Leith when he turned him into an experiment; 2) by the Prototype - he didn't kill him on his own (I think he couldn't) but used the third party (the player) and he was plotting it behind Sawyer's back.

Hints given to us that heavily imply that Elliot used Sawyer for his intellect and later betrayed him:

1) removal letter description - "Monsters We Make..." suggests that Elliot's actions are direct cause of Sawyer's mental breakdown which made him into the person or rather a monster who he is now (he pushed him over the edge - one bad day).

2) Sawyer's voice lines - "It was going to be mine. It was all going to be mine. My discovery. My recognition. I was the one who paved the golden path."

"Has she not strung you along, betrayed you, and told you only what you needed to know to do exactly as she asked?"

"Do you think Poppy cares about you? She'd sacrifice you in an INSTANT if she believed it means getting what she wants."

These clearly imply how Sawyer viewed Elliot's actions towards him (he was projecting on Poppy how he felt about Elliot).

And this together with:

3) Sawyer's memory of rat experiment from Doctor's trailer.

Shows us that Sawyer was experimenting on animals with poppy gel during his time at Young Geniuses Program.

Experiments on animals were pretty common and non-controvercial at the time period Young Geniuses Program was founded - most likely between 60-70s.

And because this Program was founded by Elliot every experiment and discovery belonged to him as it was a property of Playtime Co.

Lines like "My discovery" and "I was the one who paved the golden path" suggests to us that it was Sawyer who discovered the scientific breakthrough. He succeded with bringing dead back to life. But we don't know when it happened and with what subject exactly.

Important thing to note is that Sawyer was young back then and he didn't had the vast knowledge and abilities he gained later. He was using whatever knowledge and abilities he had at that age and he was most likely improvising driven by scientific progress ("progress doesn't care about anyone's feelings") and curiosity.

I believe that Sawyer crossed lines which caused the argument between him and Elliot and resulted in his removal from the Program.

Hence why it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that Sawyer made the Prototype and not Elliot - and he succeded we can say on accident. Using human for experimentation was definitely a no go even back then. Though we know that at that period of time there were experiments conducted on humans that were unethical.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Elliot told him about Poppy and his dream to be able to have her back. And it wouldn't surprise me if this could also be a reason to why Sawyer tried so hard because he was doing this for Elliot the only person that gave him positive attention. And this is where Harley's line "I thought you CARED" could come from cause Elliot wanted something similar, no?

Anyway. Hints that Elliot used Sawyer for his intellect.

So Sawyer was working under Elliot and came up with the project with poppy gel that caught Elliot's attention because of his dead daughter - proof: "If I might just be a tad selfish here, he is EXACTLY who I hoped this program would attract."

Elliot took Sawyer's project to bring his daughter back to life. He did it for selfish reasons. He already had that in mind when he saw what Sawyer was working on. And it makes him a hypocrite cause he experimented on his own daughter while he kicked out Harley if not for the same thing (the Prototype) then for something less than that.

"He took EVERYTHING"

"I thought you CARED"

These words written by Sawyer about Elliot have clear implication. Elliot took Sawyer's project by kicking him out of YGP because it belonged to Playtime Co. It's not fair when the one who discovered the scientific breakthrough was Sawyer and also because Elliot did what he kicked out Harley for. Sawyer thought that Elliot cared but sadly Elliot cared about his selfish desire to bring his daughter back to life.

I'm pretty sure that he cared about Sawyer but not more than his selfish desire. He just covered his reasoning for kicking Harley out of YGP in nice words like Sawyer lacking humility or that he should use science for benefit of humanity not only for the sake of progress.

We know these were excuses when Elliot saw Harley's struggles:

"I've tried to ask him questions— get a sense for who he is. And while he doesn't say much, from how he talks about home, I get a sense he doesn't miss it. A mind such as his can be quick to isolate himself from his peers, and if not surrounded by kindness, that mind can twist. The way he spoke almost made me feel sorry for him."

And because Elliot brought his dead daughter back to life.

Elliot had his own vision and selfish desire and he was fixated on it and when Sawyer didn't fit his ideal world ("childish fantasy of a naive, broken man") he ignored his issues and ditched responsibility. Elliot was selfish back then.

Sawyer mental breakdown was understandable. Elliot indeed betrayed him. And this pushed Sawyer over the edge - reference to Joker (one bad day; jester's siluette on torn papers; Doctor wearing jester's hat on official art). He became a monster because of Elliot's actions towards him.

And why I don't think that Elliot made Poppy on his own because he isn't a scientist in that field. Sure he had various innovational ideas and he could make machines and toys or at least their designs. But we don't have any proof of Elliot being knowledgable on subject of biology and such.

Elliot doesn't come off as someone who knows how to do surgery or anything like that.

And I get it that Elliot was grieving but it's not excuse to be a hypocrite and Elliot was an adult so he should know better. He saw that Harley had issues. He saw that something was wrong. But he was selfish. And grieving can't be an excuse to broke the trust of an already broken kid. It's not an excuse to mistreat a child.

This makes me even more feral over them and I need to know in what circumstances Harley killed Elliot jxnxnxnnxnxnxnnxnxnxnx

Anyway. Sawyer being the one who discovered the scientific breakthrough of bringing dead back to life makes sense from both hints in game and ARG etc and narrative standpoint.

Sad thing is that no one saw Sawyer as his own person but rather they saw only his intellect. The only person who could do something and cared about Harley was Elliot but we all know what he chose.

It's not surprising that Sawyer acts so superior cause he learned that all that matters in him is his intellect and nothing else. So he tries to make up for this by acting as he's above everyone else.

And I believe that Sawyer got this mentality from his home. I believe that his parents also focused only on his intellect. That's why he's so detached from his humane aspects because he had nothing outside of his big brain. And it reflects in what happened to him later when he was turned into basically a machine. A brain plugged into a computer. Because only this brain mattered to others.

That's why I don't think that Sawyer would care if the only thing left of him was his intellect in digital version and not even his brain cause he's too used to being valued for his smarts and used and later discarded like a thing or a tool. He was dehumanized, I believe since childhood, to the point he became a machine.

But what's tragic is that he still misses humane aspects of him, he still wished for connection even though he didn't understand that and wasn't even aware of that. But he pushes away every bit of what makes him humane because of his goal - golden path. He's obsessed with this goal even more than he's obsessed with himself I think. Because if he was truly obsessed with himself why would he want to discard and push further and further away anything that could distract him from his goal? He doesn't even allow himself simple pleasures and even if he does something for his own amusement he's still emotionally detached from it. Like we could hear in his QnA. He answers in such way about most trivial things as if he had to find an analitical and logical reason to do and like something. (Come on, Harley! Bsnznznzn QwQ)

I think he became obsessed with golden path since Elliot kicked him out of YGP because it was his breaking point. Golden path was his idea. It was his project. His discovery. But I think that roots of this comes from his home.

This much focus on scientific progress and what it escalated to later doesn't come from nothing.

Like I get it that Sawyer could have an interest in science and all but when it's implied that he had bad childhood and he is compared to rest of experiments via implications by devs then I doubt that his obsessive mindset came from nowhere. (also why the name golden path and why belief in special properties of poppy flowers vzbxbznbxbxbxnx)

His parents were at least neglectful both physically and emotionally and were pressuring and pushing him to focus only on studying and on gaining knowledge and on progress.

And with all of this I just think that the Doctor is better candidate for main antagonist in horror franchise. Cause he's a monster but a tragic monster who projects his trauma on everyone around him. Most of iconic horror characters had tragic backstory and they ended up projecting their hurt onto others.

I'm pretty sure that the Doctor is alive but I hope for it because it makes sense and would be good from narrative standpoint.

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