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Aging Gracefully

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Sometimes I Wonder If I'm A Mistake from Mister Rogers Neighborhood

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Shirley Jackson, We Have Always Lived in the Castle Vincent van Gogh, Garden at Arles (1888)

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Oh my god, you're not wrong XD

If you'll indulge me, I really want to go more in depth into this comparison though, because these are my favorite Austen couples. But I'd also like to argue that Tilney also has a few things in common with Darcy, and Catherine with Elizabeth:

Tilney & Elizabeth:

Well-read

Witty

Love to point out discrepancies in society

Second-born child

Close with their sister

The one with the people skills in the relationship

Discerning, but can also be a bit judgy

The last one to realize their feelings

Expected to marry well by family

Darcy & Catherine:

Not always the best at reading the room

In need of friends

Bookish

Their good opinion, once lost, is lost forever (see how Catherine treats Isabella after she betrays her brother)

Protective of sibling(s)

The first one to admit their feelings

Tilney & Darcy:

Rich

Well-read

Protective of sibling(s)

Have that one guy they grew up with that they can't stand (Frederick Tilney and Wickham)

Can be a bit judgy (to differing degrees, obviously)

Well-regarded by others

Lizzie & Catherine:

Middle child

Passionate

Honest

Outdoorsy

Teenagers

Seeks genuine affection and some challenge in relationships

Humbled by the end of the story

Doesn't like pompous douchebags

Tilney is the male Lizzie! If she is your favorite heroine YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM!!!!!!!

Mr Tilney (2007) Vs Mr Knightley (2009)

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Oh my god, you're not wrong XD

If you'll indulge me, I really want to go more in depth into this comparison though, because these are my favorite Austen couples. But I'd also like to argue that Tilney also has a few things in common with Darcy, and Catherine with Elizabeth:

Tilney & Elizabeth:

Well-read

Witty

Love to point out discrepancies in society

Second-born child

Close with their sister

The one with the people skills in the relationship

Discerning, but can also be a bit judgy

The last one to realize their feelings

Expected to marry well by family

Darcy & Catherine:

Not always the best at reading the room

Their manners could use work, but they're really sweet

In need of friends

Bookish

Their good opinion, once lost, is lost forever (see how Catherine treats Isabella after she betrays her brother)

Protective of sibling(s)

The first one to admit their feelings

Humbled by end of story

Kind of sort of insult their love interest's family

Tilney & Darcy:

Rich

Handsome

Well-read

Protective of sibling(s)

Have that one guy they grew up with that they can't stand (Frederick Tilney and Wickham)

Can be a bit judgy (to differing degrees, obviously)

Well-regarded by others

Care about expectations, but in the end decide to screw that and marry beneath their station

Lizzie & Catherine:

Middle child

Passionate

Honest

Outdoorsy

Teenagers

Seeks genuine affection and some challenge in relationships

Humbled by the end of the story

Doesn't like pompous douchebags

Feels betrayed by a friend

Protective of older sibling when their heart gets broken

Get treated poorly by their love interest's older family member (Catherine de Bourgh and General Tilney)

Marry above their station

Tilney is the male Lizzie! If she is your favorite heroine YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM!!!!!!!

Mr Tilney (2007) Vs Mr Knightley (2009)

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Putting on my grad student hat, if we take this account as accurate, this is a very interesting example of the concept of "The Fingertip Effect" by David (D.N.) Perkins (1985).

Perkins was concerned with the advent of information-processing tech and how this might shape human thinking. In particular, he broke down "opportunities get taken" hypothesis, which was a common belief that if a technology puts opportunities for learning literally and figuratively at students' fingertips, students will recognize the opportunity and pick it the skills as they go.

Which sounds great... except he did not find it to be true. Based on studies of students using word processors (a new tech for the time) and the Logo programming language, students more often would NOT instinctually take the opportunities the tech presented to them, because they would either not perceive them or not be motivated enough to learn on their own.

He basically argues that while some skills can be learned automatically through extensive, varied practice (low-road info transfer) , while others must be learned consciously (high-road learning transfer). The best learning practices use both.

Keep in mind again: This was written in 1985. He was worried what students might lose from using Microsoft Word.

So it might be that all of us millennials and Gen X who are considered digital natives are the ones who had the most opportunity to do both high-road and low-road learning with tech. We had computer classes in school, but we also had a lot of opportunities to practice on our own with rapidly-advancing tech, going from desktops to laptops to smartphones in a short period of time.

Younger generations who did not get computer classes, who already had smartphones, have been expected to learn entirely by the low-road route. And based on this story and others like it? It's not working that well. Students aren't getting the varied experiences they need to practice, nor are they getting explicit instruction to make the most of what they have available. They do pick up some things on their own, especially with touchscreen tech being so simple, but not nearly as much as adults may expect them to.

TLDR: The digital natives concept only works if you combine computer classes at a young age with a lot of varied experience. Without explicit instruction, kids will not pick up the skills needed.

So this was originally a response to this post:

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Which is about people wanting an AO3 app, but then it became large and way off topic, so here you go.

Nobody under the age of 20 knows how to use a computer or the internet. At all. They only know how to use apps. Their whole lives are in their phones or *maybe* a tablet/iPad if they're an artist.

Is this a bad thing? Maybe it won't be in the future, but for right now, this is a huge concern.

I'm a private tutor for middle- and high-school students, and since 2020 my business has been 100% virtual. Either the student's on a tablet, which comes with its own series of problems for screen-sharing and file access, or they're on mom's or dad's computer, and they have zero understanding of it.

They also don't know what the internet is, or even the absolute basics of how it works. You might not think that's an important thing to know, but stick with me.

Last week I accepted a new student. The first session is always about the tech -- I tell them this in advance, that they'll have to set up a few things during the session, but once we're set up, we'll be good to go. They all say the same thing -- it won't be a problem because they're so "online" that they get technology easily.

I never laugh in their faces, but it's always a close thing. Because they are expecting an app. They are not expecting to discover how little they actually know about tech.

I must say up front: this story is not an outlier. This is *every* student during their first session with me. Every single one. I go through this with each of them because most of them learn more, and more solidly, via discussion and discovery rather than direct instruction.

Once she logged in, I asked her to click on the icon for screen-sharing. I described the icon, then started with "Okay, move your mouse to the bottom right corner of the screen." She did the thing that those of us who are old enough to remember the beginnings of widespread home computers remember - picked up the mouse and moved it and then put it down. I explained she had to pull the mouse along the surface, and then click on the icon. She found this cumbersome. I asked if she was on a laptop or desktop computer. She didn't know what I meant. I asked if the computer screen was connected to the keyboard as one piece of machinery that you can open and close, or if there was a monitor - like a TV - and the keyboard was connected to another machine either by cord or by Bluetooth. Once we figured it out was a laptop, I asked her if she could use the touchpad, because it's similar (though not equivalent) to a phone screen in terms of touching, clicking, and dragging.

Once we got her using the touchpad, we tried screen-sharing again. We got it working, to an extent, but she was having trouble with... lots of things. I asked if she could email me a download or a photo of her homework instead, and we could both have a copy, and talk through it rather than put it on the screen, and we'd worry about learning more tech another day. She said she tried, but her email blocked her from sending anything to me.

This is because the only email address she has is for school, and she never uses email for any other purpose. I asked if her mom or dad could email it to me. They weren't home.

(Re: school email that blocks any emails not whitelisted by the school: that's great for kids as are all parental controls for young ones, but 16-year-olds really should be getting used to using an email that belongs to them, not an institution.)

I asked if the homework was on a paper handout, or in a book, or on the computer. She said it was on the computer. Great! I asked her where it was saved. She didn't know. I asked her to search for the name of the file. She said she already did that and now it was on her screen. Then she said to me: "You can just search for it yourself - it's Chapter 5, page 11."

This is because her homework is on the school's website, in her math class's homework section, which is where she searched. For her, that was "searching the internet." Navigating her school's website is the closest she comes to navigating the internet. Because everything in her life is an app.

Her concepts of "on my computer" "on the internet" or "on my school's website" are all the same thing. If something is displayed on the screen, it's "on the internet" and "on my phone/tablet/computer" and "on the school's website."

I explained that the homework being on the school's website is kind of the opposite of it being on her computer. I worked with her a little bit on getting set up for ongoing tutoring (creating a folder called "tutoring," understanding where the folder is, how to save things to the folder, and so on).

She doesn't understand "upload" or "download," because she does her homework on the school's website and hits a "submit" button when she's done. I asked her how she shares photos and stuff with friends; she said she posts to Snapchat or TikTok, or she AirDrops. (She said she sometimes uses Insta, though she said Insta is more "for old people"). So in her world, there's a button for "post" or "share," and that's how you put things on "the internet".

She doesn't know how it works. None of it. And she doesn't know how to use it, either.

Also, none of them can type. Not a one. They don't want to learn how, because "everything is on my phone."

And as I implied at the start, maybe that's where we're headed. Maybe one day, everything will be on "my phone," and computers as we know them will be a thing of the past. But for the time being, they're not. Students need to learn how to use computers. They need to learn how to type. No one is telling them this, because people think teenagers are "digital natives." And to an extent, they are, but the definition of that has changed radically in the last 20-30 years. It used to mean "someone who was in the right age cohort to get into computers and the internet, and understand them and use them instinctively." Today, it means "everything is on my phone."

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Stardust (2007) Dir. Matthew Vaughn

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I wish it had been! The thing is, where Barbenheimer had both movies be equally embraced by audiences, that was not the case for Dark Knight vs Mamma Mia. Dark Knight was the clear winner that year, from what I remember, even though Mamma Mia has grown in popularity over the years since.

See, I was away at sleepaway camp in July 2008, and we had a trip to the movie theater where this was the choice: Dark Knight or Mamma Mia.

I, the eternal wimp and musical fan, of course chose Mamma Mia. But I was very much in the minority.

How much in the minority? When I co-hosted the camp talent show, my co-host and I didn't throw in joke references to Mamma Mia. Because barely anyone from our group saw that, no one would get it. So, we threw in jokes about Dark Knight.

(Which, by the way, is how I learned about the infamous pencil scene, to my horror).

Because of course, how could the silly ABBA musical where Pierce Brosnan butchered "SOS" compete with the grimdark take on Batman that won Heath Ledger his posthumous Oscar?

And this was with a bunch of choir camp teens. Choir camp.

But I'd like to imagine a world where both films had come in hot on the same weekend, the way Barbenheimer did. Perhaps that can only happen in a world proliferated by social media and Gen Z humor. But that world didn't exist in 2008.

We need to talk about the ORIGINAL Barbenheimer:

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Listen, as someone who once booked a train to Penn Station (NY) instead of Penn Station (Baltimore), I'm not ashamed of this. I need to see ALL the details.

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decided to make silly cat versions for the whole avatar team

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#HUH!#and in the old school shojo symbolism#green hair indicates a gentle soul#kindness#but the darker the hair the deeper its buried#lol

Oh! I like that, too. Maybe Drosselmeyer evoked this symbolism on purpose with Edel to make Ahiru/Duck trust him. And yeah, Fakir's hair doesn't really have that green tinge until later in his arc, when his kindness becomes more obvious - it looks black at first, which seems to be a red herring that Fakir represents the Raven.

Anyone notice how all the characters most related to Drosselmeyer in Princess Tutu have green hair?

Now, Edel and Uzura are sort of the same person, sure. But Fakir... his hair is so dark it almost looks black in most scenes, but it is green, and he is related to Drosselmeyer.

While there is one other, unrelated character with green hair (Malen the artist from "Akt 9: Black Shoes"), still, it makes me wonder, was Drosselmeyer's hair green in his youth? Or maybe his wife's? (Fakir had to come from somewhere...) Did he model Edel after one or both of them?

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WAIT ALL CREATURES GREAT AND SMALL HAS TWO NEW SEASONS

SCREAMING - CRYING - THROWING UP

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just my current thoughts on the pjo show and how they changed gabe's character.

when i first saw the show, i was a bit disappointed at how the abuse wasn't really there (which, writing that feels like a horrible thought to have had). gabe just seemed like a whiny loser instead of a mean, smelly, controlling person who we later learn is physically harming sally. did i want it to be a bit more book accurate? yes, because i was excited to see him get what he deserved at the end of the season.

but now, im glad they changed it. i've been watching alyson stoner's series Dear Hollywood, where she breaks down a lot of the psychology of child actors as they get into the industry and how it continues to affect them throughout the years. and having the show be completely book accurate with gabe's representation would probably have harmed walker in the long run. yeah, he was a bit older (12 or 13 when they filmed i believe) so not in the very first formative years of development, but that's still much too early to have to act with something like that.

yes, walker is a fantastic actor, and he probably can separate reality from fiction very well. and obviously what happens on set isn't "real". but still, having an abusive parent on-screen, even though gabe isn't physically abusive to percy, could have caused actual consequences to walker's brain that he probably wouldn't have understood for years. and i would MUCH rather have the kids be in a safe and comfortable environment while working for my entertainment than get something that is the same as rick riordan wrote 15 years ago.

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antique book covers 🍂💞🤎

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A callout post (it’s me I’m calling myself out)