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margaret pleads w arthur not to go to battle, a la [ this ], but he replies that her dreams are equally likely to be right or wrong and he may die, but he must fight as their father did.  she replies that their father fought and their father died.  he tells her that, if he does not fight, a far worse fate than mortal doom awaits him, for he will have died to himself, to his honor, to his duty, and to all that he believes and holds dear

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Rival Kings | A WftH Playlist

numbers - daughter

take me back - the kongos

everybody wants to rule the world - lorde

the driver - bastille

i’m so sorry - imagine dragons ??????

my body is a cage - arcade fire

anne askew burned - trevor morris

the execution - paul cantelon

valley of fallen kings - snow patrol

bad blood - bastille

thick as thieves - natalie merchant ??????

courtyard apocalypse - alexandre desplat

requiem for a tower

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I wanted to protect you from everything, even death; that is the burden of love. But what I loved I could not protect and that is the cruelty of love.

WftH

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You believe that you have rights devoid of duties? Are you a child? One does not exist without the other. If you’ve a right to the throne then you have also a duty to it and, more specifically, to the people you rule. You have a right to rule because it is your duty and it is your duty because it is right. Is that not the cause of all this bloodshed? The people owe you nothing for your right; you owe them everything for it.

WftH

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Arthur Playlist

glitter & gold - barns courtney

carry me - eurielle

we have it all - pim stones

the humbling river - puscifer

courtyard apocalypse - hans zimmer

breathe - of verona

CATHERINE/ARTHUR

rooting for you - london grammar

we had it all - pim stones

for those words we can’t say - karliene

wish you were here - florence + the machine

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For the ask: 1, 3 & 15 for Wild for to Hold!

1: What inspired you to write the fic this way?

I did toy with writing this other ways!!  

For a time, I thought of pursuing an epistolary approach to the story (since, for most of it, there’re lots of ppl away from one another, etc.), but I found 1) I wanted to delve into the characters’ minds in ways they might not write down 2) I’m really frickin lazy hahaha and for whatever reason this more standard approach is easier for me - esp bc I can feel a little more content w myself in writing more modernized dialogue rather than letters: since I’ve never heard a Tudor person speak to me, I can pretend its ok accuracy-wise, whereas I can read Tudor letters and KNOW they don’t sound like that hahaha  I’m a perfectionist and I torture myself w these weird details that I fully realize matter to no one else hahaha  But I’m ultimately glad I didn’t do that.  I don’t think the story would’ve flowed as well since, that way, you’re always removed from the action ++ you know certain things: for instance, whoever’s writing the letter had enough time to experience said event AND write it down, so they’re probably alive, etc.

The other thing I thought of doing - and almost did!! - was writing it in present tense.  Actually, a lot of the earlier chapters I initially wrote in present tense and then went back to edit into past tense.  I actually sometimes wish I had stuck with the present tense for certain scenes - for others I’m glad I didn’t.  I write differently, depending on the tense in which I’m writing idk hahaha which works better for some things than others.

I did also struggle with where to begin the story, proper!  I thought about following the journeys of the entire Tudor family during their exile and of showcasing the transition from rebel!Perkin to king!Richard and his consolidation of power, regal priorities, etc.  As you can see, the story is way long enough withOUT all of that so that was the primary reason for cutting it and going with the time-jump to the Tudor bros arriving in France hahaha

3: What’s your favorite line of narration?

WOW!!  Truth be told, I’ve written 201,564 words of this fic and probs remember a whole fifteen of them  and most of that’s dialogue hahaha ;DDDD  But I mean...I won’t lie to you...almost every chapter I have some lil nugget I’m quite proud of hahaha and if its not too spoilery for the given chapter, that’s generally what I put in the chapter description hahaha so reading those will give you a collection of my favorite quotes, for the most part, but yeah!! 

So I LOVE this question bc it has me analyzing my own writing which is GREAT bc I’m gonna get to the editing segment of this project soon so I need to be up for that!!!!!!!  Again, not to toot my own horn hahaha but I do have a number of narration quotes I quite enjoy - I mean, there’re nearly 100 chapters!! which is nuts!! so I’m glad I feel that way hahah - so I narrowed it down to my more recent chapters to find a quote and here it is!!

Her husbands all were dead and now, so was she, dead and buried and already replaced. It seemed so strange and so predictable: she’d replaced her own husbands again and again and another time yet: now it was her time to be covered over and forgotten. This, too, was her duty: to give way to another woman…even one born from so small an estate as the one that was coming. Yes, Anne would replace Catherine as Catherine once had replaced Elizabeth and on and on and on it went. Perhaps Elizabeth was right. Perhaps, even now, they all lived only in the memories of those who once had known them.

Which...small ironies bc we know, historically CoA DID give way to Anne Boleyn as Queen of England but, given the v different circumstances, seeing it in opposition of (many things hahah including) her duty, she wouldn’t relent whereas here it is in alignment with (many things including) her duty, so she ~does.  I try, w this fic, always to be mindful of what really did happen, even while building a different sequence of events.

15: What did you learn from writing this fic?

So much!!!!!  I’ve just...learned so, so much!  For one, keeping to a v strict routine and schedule (I MUST have a chapter by midnight on Saturdays each week unless I have a very good reason why not - such reasons being limited to v srs situations such as deaths in the family, etc) works really well for me!!  Things like, powering through writer’s block is the only way to get shit done!!  Things like...writing about the real stuff can ultimately be super healing even when it hurts, hurts, hurts!!  Things like: I am actually capable of finishing a book.  I’m not there yet, but I can see the finish line, I can almost touch it, it’s so close (now, watch, it’ll take me two years to write the ending jk jk ;DDDD)  And that’s not even counting alllllll the research I’ve done for this!  I mean, not to toot my own horn here, but I knew a LOT of things going into this, particularly about Henry and Anne, but woW will I come out of it knowing things esp about Perkin Warbeck!!  The whole thing has just been such a ride, really, I’m not gonna know what to do with myself when it’s over!! ;DDDD

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Captive King Ages

On August 22, 1485, Richard III was 32; Henry VII was 28; Elizabeth of York was 19

Jasper Tudor, Duke of Bedford and Earl of Pembroke, was 53

Margaret Beaufort was 44

Thomas Stanley, Earl of Derby, was 50

Richard, Duke of York, was 49; would have been 74

Cecily Neville was 70

Anne of York, Duchess of Exeter, was 37; would have been 46

Henry of York was 1 day; would have been 44

Edward V was 41; would have been 43

Edmund, Earl of Rutland, was 17; would have been 42

Elizabeth of York, Duchess of Suffolk, was 41

Margaret of York, Duchess of Burgundy, was 39

William of York was ??; would have been 38

John of York was ??; would have been 37

George, Duke was Clarence, was 29; would have been 36

Thomas of York was 1; would have been 35

Ursula of York was ??; would have been 30

John of Lancaster, Duke of Bedford was 46; would have been 96

Richard Woodville, Earl Rivers, was 64; would have been 80

Jacquetta of Luxembourg was 57/58; would have been 70/71

Lewis Woodville was ??; would have been 47

Anne Woodville, married to George Grey younger brother to Eleanor/Joan’s hubby, was 47/46

Anthony Woodville, Earl Rivers, was 43; would have been 45

John Woodville was 25; would have been 41

Jacquetta Woodville, Dowager Lady Strange of Knockin, was 40

Lionel Woodville was 38; would have been 39

Eleanor/Joan Woodville, Countess of Kent, was 37/36

Margaret Woodville, Countess of Arundel, was 35

Martha Woodville, Lady Bromley, was 34-33

Richard Woodville, Earl Rivers, was 32

Edward Woodville, Lord Scales, was 31-27

Mary Woodville, Countess of Pembroke, was 25; would have been 29

Catherine Woodville, Dowager Duchess of Buckingham, was 27

Elizabeth Woodville was 48

Thomas Grey, Earl of Huntingdon, Marquess of Dorset, and Lord of Ferrers de Groby, was 30

Richard Grey was 26; would have been 28

Mary of York was 15; would have been 18

Cecily of York was 16

Edward V was 12; would have been 14

Margaret of York was 8months; would have been 13

Richard of Shrewsbury was 9; would have been 12

Anne of York was 9

George of Windsor was 2; would have been 8

Catherine of York was 6

Bridget of York was 4

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henry/anne au based on s01e01 of the romanoffs:

an aging h7 sits on his riches with relatives clamoring to claim their inheritance upon his death

shut up both physically and emotionally and looks for reasons to push ppl away!!

as his health begins to fail, his second son, h8, who, by default, stands to inherit, brings on a health care professional, anne boleyn

religious, cultural, and economic clashes ensue

includes a tragically dead son and heir

differences on and discussions of religion, history, lineage

h8 wants children but can’t have them

his significant other, coa, has been married before and is both proud and ambitious (the rest doesn’t really apply but yeah)

includes discussions of history and lineage and dead royalty

h8 wholesale embarrassing himself in front of anne boleyn in cheesy ways

ultimately, h7 develops a v paternal relationship w anne boleyn and decides to make her his heir instead

h8 is then forced to court anne boleyn’s favor...and the two end up falling for each other in the process

they have an affair and when anne boleyn tries to get h7 to return the inheritance to h8, drama ensues

things come to a head when anne boleyn discovers she is carrying h8′s child...

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Captive King

When the Stanleys turn another way and the Battle of Bosworth ends in a victory for Richard III, Henry Tudor is carried off to London in chains.  Margaret Beaufort manages to convince Richard to commute Henry’s sentence and Henry is ultimately named the King’s cupbearer.  Henry, a captive king, has no intention of remaining his enemy’s cupbearer forever...and with the Woodville faction still in an uproar, he sees an opportunity for change.

r3 attempts the double marriage alliance w portugal (marrying eoy to manuel i and wedding, himself, blessed princess joan of portugal)

joan, however, raises objections and manuel isn’t sure about a bastard, incidentally buying some time for h7

court intrigue

h7 feeds r3 info and, as he gains more trust, finds ingenious ways to fill r3′s coffers

meanwhile, h7 romances eoy behind r3′s back and plots w the woodville faction to throne a different king and queen

and meditates upon a suitable fate for stanley

meanwhile, r3 tries v hard at being king but honestly he’s much more suited to an administrative position

but he is the last plantagenet and he cannot give any ground or all his family will have died for nothing

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Starcrossed Timeline

1920 (c. 1450)

1927

january 28 - birth of henry vii

1930 (c. 1460)

1936 

february 11 - birth of elizabeth of york

1940 (c. 1470)

1950 (c. 1480)

1953

april 9 - death of edward iv

july 6 - coronation of richard iii

1954

???? - birth of charles brandon

1955

august 22 - death of richard iii

october 30 - coronation of henry vii

december 16 - birth of catherine of aragon

1956

january 18 - henry vii marries elizabeth of york

september 20 - birth of arthur tudor

1959

november 28 - birth of margaret tudor

1960 (c. 1490)

1961

june 28 - birth of henry viii

1966

march 18 - birth of mary rose tudor

1970 (c. 1500)

the age of majority is legally reduced from 21 to 18

1971

november 14 - arthur and ————— marry

???? - birth of mary boleyn

1973

february 11 - death of elizabeth of york

august 8 - margaret marries james iv

1974

???? - birth of george boleyn

1977

????? - birth of anne boleyn

1979

????? - birth of jane seymour

april 21 - death of henry vii

june 11 - henry viii and catherine marry

june 23 - coronation of arthur ii

1980 (c. 1510)

august ?? - birth of katharine parr

1980 (c. 1510)

1982

april 10 - birth of james v

1983

september 9 - death of james iv

1984

august 6 - margaret marries archibald douglas

1985

september 22 - birth of anne of cleves

october 8 - birth of margaret douglas

1986

february 18 - brith of mary i

1988

margaret tudor’s third marriage

1990 (c. 1520)

1992

??????? - henry meets anne boleyn

??????? - birth of katherine howard

1998

march 3 - margaret marries henry stuart

2000 (c. 1530)

2002

june 24 - birth of robert dudley

november 14 - h8 divorces coa

2003

january 25 - h8 marries anne

september 7 - birth of elizabeth i

2006

may 19 - h8 divorces anne

may 30 - h8 marries jane

2007

october 12 - birth of edward vi

2010 (approx 1540)

2014

july 6 - margaret douglas marries matthew stuart

2015

december 7 - birth of henry stuart darnley

2018: current year (approx 1548)

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Uncharted Territory Characters

BETHANY “bet/s” BLOUNT (00) Status: Single Occupation: Relationship(s): Fitz Blount (son), Henry Pembroke (baby daddy)

FITZROY “fitz” BLOUNT (00) Status: Single Occupation: Relationship(s): Bethany Blount (mother), Henry Pembroke (father), Mary Pembroke (half-sister), Elizabeth Butler (unborn half-sister)

THOMAS “tom” BUTLER (00) Status: Married Occupation: Relationship(s): Elizabeth Butler (wife), Mary Butler, Anne Butler (daughters), George Butler (son), Elizabeth Butler (unborn granddaughter)

ELIZABETH “eliza” ARUNDEL BUTLER (00) Status: Married Occupation: Relationship(s): Thomas Butler (husband), Mary Butler, Anne Butler (daughters), George Butler (son) Elizabeth Butler (unborn granddaughter)

suffered two miscarriages between anne and george which made her esp overprotective

pr haughty but v proud and drills this into her kids

elizabeth: ‘i love all my children equally’ *earlier that day* ‘i don’t care for mary’

MARY BUTLER (27) Status: Single Occupation: Relationship(s): Thomas Butler (father), Elizabeth Butler (mother), Anne Butler (sister), George Butler (brother), Elizabeth Butler (unborn niece), Wilfred Stafford (best friend), Francis Leroy (ex-boyfriend)

her father wants her to marry walter which is at once an attraction and detraction re: walter tbh

her bff is in love w her

when she was 14 she became pregnant w 16yo francis’ baby, who had pressured her into sex

he then pressured her into having an abortion

anne went w her, francis abandoned her, just gave her money for it and cut ties entirely

only anne and george and francis know it ever happened

hasn’t really dealt so well w it tbh

occupation: family disappointment

ANNE BUTLER (26) Status: Engaged Occupation: Masters Student Relationship(s): Thomas Butler (father), Elizabeth Butler (mother), Mary Butler (sister), George Butler (brother), Percy North (fiancé), Elizabeth Butler (unborn daughter), Henry Pembroke (baby daddy), Joan Parker (best friend)

educated in a catholic convent

witty, refined, proud, vindictive, courageous, ineffable, kind, clever, ambitious, feisty, independent

her father wants her to be a lawyer but she’s not sure that’s what ~she wants

has her life super!!!! planned!!!!!

except that one glaring fork in the road and she’s v stressed and anxious thinking about what road she’ll take...

which is why she really doesn’t need anything else thrown in her path rn

decided not to loose her virginity until marriage when she saw how francis leroy treated her sister, esp when mary got pregnant

knew she wanted a different path!!!!!!

GEORGE “gee” BUTLER (23) Status: Single/secretly dating joan parker Occupation: Relationship(s): Thomas Butler (father), Elizabeth Butler (mother), Mary Butler, Anne Butler (sisters), Elizabeth Butler (unborn niece), Joan Parker (secret girlfriend)

WALTER CAREY (00) Status:  Occupation: Relationship(s): Thomas Butler (boss), Percy North (cousin)

BRANDON GREY (33) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): 

FRANCIS LEROY (29) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): 

PERCY NORTH (26) Status: Engaged Occupation: Relationship(s): Anne Butler (fiancée), Walter Carey (cousin)

so!!!! in love!!!! w anne!!!!!!

‘she amazes me’

so sweet

always remembers anniversaries and birthdays and does all the little important things a bf should

still can’t believe anne wants to be w him!!!!!!

got disinherited by his family bc he refused to give her up ‘as long as i know she wants me too there’s nothing i wouldn’t do’

has asthma...and anxiety

JOAN PARKER (22) Status: Single/secretly dating george butler Occupation: Relationship(s): 

HENRY PEMBROKE, SR. (00) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): 

ELIZABETH PEMBROKE (00) Status: Deceased Occupation: Relationship(s): 

died in a car wreck w arthur

ARTHUR PEMBROKE (00) Status: Deceased Occupation: Relationship(s): 

MARGARET “meg” PEMBROKE (33) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): 

HENRY “harry” PEMBROKE, JR. (31) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): 

has probably written ‘mr anne butler’ in a notebook somewhere and doodled a heart around it tbh

ROSE “rosie” PEMBROKE (26) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): George Butler????????

CATALINA “cat” PEMBROKE (32) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): 

after her fiancé arthur’s death, she and his brother henry sought comfort in each other...

MARIA PEMBROKE (7?) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): Henry Pembroke, Jr. (father), Catalina Pembroke (mother), Fitzroy Blount (half-brother), Elizabeth Butler (unborn half-sister)

WILSON “will” STAFFORD (00) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s): Mary Butler (best friend/interest)

JANE WOLFE (24) Status: Occupation: Relationship(s):