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Fam, do we think the wings are literal or is this a metaphor? Surely we'd have an animation if it was his literal wings right?

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Illusio come baaaaaaaack I need you 🥲

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The "still holds an umbrella over you when they are pissed" couple.

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Y'all know he loved it, despite the creeping blush.

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Beautiful, critical damage 🥲

I call this the “My Lover Scarified Themselves For Me” club

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...Sylus strikes again.

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Obsessed with this pose its so 🥲

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HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS

a. I'm sad I don't remember how to art, cause I can picture it so clearly

b. GODDESS OF THE COSMOS SEEING A VERSION OF HERSELF BEING KILLED AS AN EXPERIMENTED ON BY ASTRA/EVER AND SAYING "No."

AND POINTING THE DEEPSPACE TUNNEL AT EARTH.

I'm back with more LADs lore predictions 🤔

1. Miss Hunter's origins as a celestial being made into a humanoid form --

By the game's definition, protocores are; dropped by Wanderers once they are killed and carry celestial energy that can be harnessed for many applications.

We've seen several specific protocores:

A. The Creatio protocore, during Zayne's Foreseer myth. This protocore is said to contain Astra's power and Zayne says "Astra's power is yours to wield" after Miss Hunter absorbs it. Interestingly, he also mentions prior in the myth that her heart condition stems from "resonance with it" and that the Creatio protocore was growing stronger by "draining away" Miss Hunter's life.

B. The specific protocore Xavier searched for and found during his time on Philos. I don't believe it's ever named. I'm not convinced this wasn't Miss Hunter being vague and telling Xavier a cure existed to give him hope so I don't really include this one.

C. Destructio, I'm not sure this was ever confirmed as a protocore but I'm making an assumption here. The "energy" of Miss Hunter from Caleb's myth as A-01.

D. Construo, same as above I am assuming this is a protocore. The "energy" of Caleb as X-02 in his myth. Interestingly, A-01 and X-02 appear to be able to switch these energies -- creation and destruction are two sides of the same coin. I think there are meant to be one protocore. Perhaps this a situation where Miss Hunter has one half of it and Caleb the other.

E. The Spatium core, spatium literally meaning space or displacement or even the distance between two points. In the story, it's been used to influence spaces and create new ones.

F. Special shoutout to the Aether core class, a rare fragment or complete crystal filled with celestial energy. Aether meaning the sky, the dominion of the gods (assuming they are using the mythical definition) and the god of light. A complete Aether core has its own energy shield to protect it. Aether cores come from "the very core of the cosmos". For a long time, I assumed Sylus's eye contained half of Miss Hunter's Aether core and that was why it's unstable. But Zayne says "the energy in your heart has always been stable" and that it "forms a shield when attacked". Miss Hunter's Aether core is in one, complete piece.

G. The Origo core, recently introduced in Death and Rebirth. It descends from the cosmos and finds (seeks out?) dying planets. Then a "tiny protocore" is born from destruction after a planet "collapses inward". and dies. This introduces a chicken and egg problem for me: was there an origin Origo core? Or a planet must die for one to be produced? Was the cosmos made from THE Origo core? If so, how was the very first one produced? By who/what?

SO - Miss Hunter? The game keeps making a point to inform us that it is time AND space that is being altered/bent.

She appears to be based on the Greek Gaia or the Egyptian Nut.

Nut is summarized as the goddess of the sky, stars, the cosmos, mothers, astronomy, and the universe.

Gaia is summarized as the Earth personified, the mother of all life.

She will likely be a combo of the two inspiration wise, given that there supposedly more planets in Deepspace besides Earth.

She travels the universe, comes upon/looks for dying planets and plants a seed of herself in the planet's core. This seed is an Origo core and is powered by her essence. The Origo core builds a new planet and eventually the Origo core houses itself in a human/humanoid personification of her.

These human seeds become our Beloved Bride, Sea Witch, A-01, Thief, the Master of Fate's companion, Knight, Queen, Dragon, and Gladiator. I still maintain my earlier stance that these lives do not intersect nor happen on the same planet or timelime since Miss Hunter's Origo powers allow her to part time and space.

Overall, I think she will be a mix of various mythologies.

Astra seems to have a particular grudge against Miss Hunter, her being part of a pantheon would make sense. Something clearly happened between her and Astra. He seems to be following her across time and space, even if he isn't named explicitly.

In the end? My money is that she is the goddess of life and free will while Astra is the god of death and fate -- two sides of the same coin, locked in an unending battle. I still maintain Astra is the big bad. And what makes her immortal is the Origo protocore.

2. Miss Hunter's latest iteration --

If indeed Miss Hunter seeded all the planets that would presumably include Earth. So is our Miss Hunter a seed that has been on Earth for millenia and recently awakened? I'm not so sure.

I realize this is Zayne and his mystery mission to the Arctic, but the imagery makes me wonder if there IS a Miss Hunter for Dawnbreaker, the OG Earth seed, but she is trapped somewhere by Astra or somehow dormant....perhaps stuck in the Arctic in a different time/space pocket?

In short, I think our latest iteration of Miss Hunter is the gladiator version of her with Sylus. They agree to run away together and something happens to split them up. I believe this is where Sylus ends up in the time space prison and Miss Hunter?

The Deepspace Tunnel being described as "vast" is interesting. It feels like the Temporal Loom from Loki. There is one Deepspace Tunnel, and everything branches from it. Deepspace Tunnel = an Olympus of sorts in the middle/a pocket removed from time and space?

She falls through the Deepspace Tunnel to Earth. If she can manipulate time and space, as it appears she can, she could be falling through multiple times/spaces of the Deepspace Tunnel and "jumping" in her distress.

But our Miss Hunter has protocore syndrome and lacks the power she's supposed to have? The Deepspace Tunnel tore them from her during her fall and they fell from her as protocores. She doesn't have a weak heart -- she's incomplete. The specific, named protocores are easily and "accidentally" absorbed by her because they belong to her, they are pieces of her.

She's going to be weak and unstable until she is complete. She's gotta pull a Thanos and collect them things!

And when she does? Along with sorting thru her memories? She's gonna be scary.

3. But wait -- what about her weak heart in the myths with boys?

This circles back to she can manipulate time and space -- perhaps the Deepspace Tunnel was originally her means of travel and something went wrong? Altered by Astra? Either way, she appears to be incomplete in some (all?) of the myths as well. Her heart with Xavier and Foreseer Zayne, something is "wrong" with her power with Master of Fate Zayne, etc.

If the Goddess version of her is where all the seed versions of her draw their power from, is something wrong with the Goddess and that's why her seeds are weak?

It also occurs to me the boys could have pieces of her as well from their origins and that explains the inexorable draw to each other. Their choice to fall in love but the type of locked eyes with a stranger in a crowded room and can't look away draw.

Or perhaps the boys are celestial bodies as well, I did see a theory to support this (would love to credit the original person who thought that one up, please let me know) on various platforms -- Miss Hunter seeds the planet and becomes intertwined with it.

I think that's all for now 😅😆🤣🤣🤣

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More overnight thoughts on this cause I put two and two together on the way to work 😅

Ghilan'nain from the Dragon Age series (mostly Veilguard) is a PERFECT example of this. Without going too far into spoilers, she created monsters for a goddess to hunt but eventually escalated to an insane creator with unwilling test subjects, forced experimentation, etc all in the name of her idea of perfection/beauty.

THAT is precisely what I see for Ever and the, hopefully, female secondary antagonist.

Hi! If LADS had a female main villain (not one that is a jealous person or MC’s rival to a LI) but like maybe like this female main villain could be the head of EVER like Makima from Chainsaw Man or a dark mirror to MC, do you think it could work?

I do!

I love diving into lore and meta analysis on things like this. 😍

LADS draws a lot of inspiration from multiple mythologies but lately we've been seeing more of Greek mythos -- Tartarus, Sylus is heavily Hades coded [an abduction, pomegranate, etc], Rafayel aa Poseidon, Zayne and Cronus, etc. Plus Astra translates to star with all our new celestial backstory.

So I could definitely see a villain who is a woman based on Echidna. If you aren't familiar, she's half woman/half snake and the mother of monsters and she lives in a cave "beneath the secret parts of the Earth". This could easily translate to mother of Wanderers.

I said in my latest LADS theory that Astra and Miss Hunter are part of a pantheon of gods and goddesses, so it would make sense it would extend past the two of them.

Most people seem to assume it's Astra pulling the strings behind Ever but I could 100% see an Echidna type unhinged goddess running Ever from the shadows who is using it to create Wanderers (rather than rely on them coming thru the Deepspace Tunnel). Viper could be one of her "children" even.

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Nah you’re not alone. I’m not personally a Caleb fan myself since the Yandere trope isn’t for me either. I sympathize with mental state and trauma but I don’t condone or agree with his actions.

Yeah, I'm always hesitant to talk about him because his fans keep getting dragged thru the mud and unfortunately due to ship wars and people just doing too much and gate keeping it feels safer to avoid talking about him than say his reintroduction made me uncomfortable enough to not want to interact further.

Seems to happen in every fandom unfortunately 🥲 there's always a character or ship that people feel like they have to shit on rather than just enjoying their little corner.

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Sort of a LADS theory, but I’m currently studying some psychology stuff when I enroll in college and while I’m not in expert by any means I wanted to analysis the psychology of Caleb. He’s suppose to be the Yandere trope, but I feel like there’s more to it than that given his backstory. I always believed that Caleb has C-PTSD (Complex PTSD) and that he has attachment issues. I saw a reddit comment saying he could be a sociopath but I’m unsure if I want to label him as such.

Let me preference by saying, I want people to like the characters they like and interact with the story in a way that's comfortable and safe to them and I absolutely do NOT condone the gatekeeping or going after people just for having different opinions -- for me, I am not a fan of Caleb. So I do feel a bit biased here as the Yandere trope is not for me and one I actively avoid 👀. I got his myth but have not interacted with his story and cards outside of the myth and the main story.

I definitely agree he has a ton of trauma and most likely PTSD. I'm not familiar enough with the intricacies to speak on it in detail but from a passing knowledge all of the LADS boys probably do to varying degrees.

Thoughts?

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A goddess and her dragon.

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To follow up on the female villain ask, who do you think is the true main antagonist of Love and Deepspace?

Overall, Astra. We seem to be exploring the ideas of fate vs choice/free will especially with Zayne's latest chapters in Death and Rebirth.

Miss Hunter notes too during her monolog about her celestial past (can't remember exactly how its worded) that the planets she comes to could have many fates but they always have the same one -- destruction.

So, I do think Astra is the God of Fate and in direct opposition to Miss Hunter as the goddess of creation (creation implies free will and choice IMO).

What his overall goal is -- control over a pantheon of gods, revenge, tired of life, etc I'm not sure yet.

He's definitely gonna have underlings though for us to sink our teeth into in the meantime 😬

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Hi! If LADS had a female main villain (not one that is a jealous person or MC’s rival to a LI) but like maybe like this female main villain could be the head of EVER like Makima from Chainsaw Man or a dark mirror to MC, do you think it could work?

I do!

I love diving into lore and meta analysis on things like this. 😍

LADS draws a lot of inspiration from multiple mythologies but lately we've been seeing more of Greek mythos -- Tartarus, Sylus is heavily Hades coded [an abduction, pomegranate, etc], Rafayel aa Poseidon, Zayne and Cronus, etc. Plus Astra translates to star with all our new celestial backstory.

So I could definitely see a villain who is a woman based on Echidna. If you aren't familiar, she's half woman/half snake and the mother of monsters and she lives in a cave "beneath the secret parts of the Earth". This could easily translate to mother of Wanderers.

I said in my latest LADS theory that Astra and Miss Hunter are part of a pantheon of gods and goddesses, so it would make sense it would extend past the two of them.

Most people seem to assume it's Astra pulling the strings behind Ever but I could 100% see an Echidna type unhinged goddess running Ever from the shadows who is using it to create Wanderers (rather than rely on them coming thru the Deepspace Tunnel). Viper could be one of her "children" even.

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I'm back with more LADs lore predictions 🤔

1. Miss Hunter's origins as a celestial being made into a humanoid form --

By the game's definition, protocores are; dropped by Wanderers once they are killed and carry celestial energy that can be harnessed for many applications.

We've seen several specific protocores:

A. The Creatio protocore, during Zayne's Foreseer myth. This protocore is said to contain Astra's power and Zayne says "Astra's power is yours to wield" after Miss Hunter absorbs it. Interestingly, he also mentions prior in the myth that her heart condition stems from "resonance with it" and that the Creatio protocore was growing stronger by "draining away" Miss Hunter's life.

B. The specific protocore Xavier searched for and found during his time on Philos. I don't believe it's ever named. I'm not convinced this wasn't Miss Hunter being vague and telling Xavier a cure existed to give him hope so I don't really include this one.

C. Destructio, I'm not sure this was ever confirmed as a protocore but I'm making an assumption here. The "energy" of Miss Hunter from Caleb's myth as A-01.

D. Construo, same as above I am assuming this is a protocore. The "energy" of Caleb as X-02 in his myth. Interestingly, A-01 and X-02 appear to be able to switch these energies -- creation and destruction are two sides of the same coin. I think there are meant to be one protocore. Perhaps this a situation where Miss Hunter has one half of it and Caleb the other.

E. The Spatium core, spatium literally meaning space or displacement or even the distance between two points. In the story, it's been used to influence spaces and create new ones.

F. Special shoutout to the Aether core class, a rare fragment or complete crystal filled with celestial energy. Aether meaning the sky, the dominion of the gods (assuming they are using the mythical definition) and the god of light. A complete Aether core has its own energy shield to protect it. Aether cores come from "the very core of the cosmos". For a long time, I assumed Sylus's eye contained half of Miss Hunter's Aether core and that was why it's unstable. But Zayne says "the energy in your heart has always been stable" and that it "forms a shield when attacked". Miss Hunter's Aether core is in one, complete piece.

G. The Origo core, recently introduced in Death and Rebirth. It descends from the cosmos and finds (seeks out?) dying planets. Then a "tiny protocore" is born from destruction after a planet "collapses inward". and dies. This introduces a chicken and egg problem for me: was there an origin Origo core? Or a planet must die for one to be produced? Was the cosmos made from THE Origo core? If so, how was the very first one produced? By who/what?

SO - Miss Hunter? The game keeps making a point to inform us that it is time AND space that is being altered/bent.

She appears to be based on the Greek Gaia or the Egyptian Nut.

Nut is summarized as the goddess of the sky, stars, the cosmos, mothers, astronomy, and the universe.

Gaia is summarized as the Earth personified, the mother of all life.

She will likely be a combo of the two inspiration wise, given that there supposedly more planets in Deepspace besides Earth.

She travels the universe, comes upon/looks for dying planets and plants a seed of herself in the planet's core. This seed is an Origo core and is powered by her essence. The Origo core builds a new planet and eventually the Origo core houses itself in a human/humanoid personification of her.

These human seeds become our Beloved Bride, Sea Witch, A-01, Thief, the Master of Fate's companion, Knight, Queen, Dragon, and Gladiator. I still maintain my earlier stance that these lives do not intersect nor happen on the same planet or timelime since Miss Hunter's Origo powers allow her to part time and space.

Overall, I think she will be a mix of various mythologies.

Astra seems to have a particular grudge against Miss Hunter, her being part of a pantheon would make sense. Something clearly happened between her and Astra. He seems to be following her across time and space, even if he isn't named explicitly.

In the end? My money is that she is the goddess of life and free will while Astra is the god of death and fate -- two sides of the same coin, locked in an unending battle. I still maintain Astra is the big bad. And what makes her immortal is the Origo protocore.

2. Miss Hunter's latest iteration --

If indeed Miss Hunter seeded all the planets that would presumably include Earth. So is our Miss Hunter a seed that has been on Earth for millenia and recently awakened? I'm not so sure.

I realize this is Zayne and his mystery mission to the Arctic, but the imagery makes me wonder if there IS a Miss Hunter for Dawnbreaker, the OG Earth seed, but she is trapped somewhere by Astra or somehow dormant....perhaps stuck in the Arctic in a different time/space pocket?

In short, I think our latest iteration of Miss Hunter is the gladiator version of her with Sylus. They agree to run away together and something happens to split them up. I believe this is where Sylus ends up in the time space prison and Miss Hunter?

The Deepspace Tunnel being described as "vast" is interesting. It feels like the Temporal Loom from Loki. There is one Deepspace Tunnel, and everything branches from it. Deepspace Tunnel = an Olympus of sorts in the middle/a pocket removed from time and space?

She falls through the Deepspace Tunnel to Earth. If she can manipulate time and space, as it appears she can, she could be falling through multiple times/spaces of the Deepspace Tunnel and "jumping" in her distress.

But our Miss Hunter has protocore syndrome and lacks the power she's supposed to have? The Deepspace Tunnel tore them from her during her fall and they fell from her as protocores. She doesn't have a weak heart -- she's incomplete. The specific, named protocores are easily and "accidentally" absorbed by her because they belong to her, they are pieces of her.

She's going to be weak and unstable until she is complete. She's gotta pull a Thanos and collect them things!

And when she does? Along with sorting thru her memories? She's gonna be scary.

3. But wait -- what about her weak heart in the myths with boys?

This circles back to she can manipulate time and space -- perhaps the Deepspace Tunnel was originally her means of travel and something went wrong? Altered by Astra? Either way, she appears to be incomplete in some (all?) of the myths as well. Her heart with Xavier and Foreseer Zayne, something is "wrong" with her power with Master of Fate Zayne, etc.

If the Goddess version of her is where all the seed versions of her draw their power from, is something wrong with the Goddess and that's why her seeds are weak?

It also occurs to me the boys could have pieces of her as well from their origins and that explains the inexorable draw to each other. Their choice to fall in love but the type of locked eyes with a stranger in a crowded room and can't look away draw.

Or perhaps the boys are celestial bodies as well, I did see a theory to support this (would love to credit the original person who thought that one up, please let me know) on various platforms -- Miss Hunter seeds the planet and becomes intertwined with it.

I think that's all for now 😅😆🤣🤣🤣

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The way this man is so stunning 🥲