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i have to figure out a way to work in that they're in canada before alex talks about his mom being a puerto rican immigrant or people will think I don't know that puerto rico is part of the us.

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the setting isn't anime and i don't think she'd have dyed hair at least at this point so this isn't canon, but in my head Marcia does just look like Nicole Demara from Zenless Zone Zero. I've never played any of those games i just think her design is sooo cute and I realized I was thinking of her for Marcia even though I don't think their personalities are all that similar from what I've seen? which is admittedly not much, once I learned she wasn't mean I stopped caring about the actual character lmao.

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ship dynamic i really like

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high rn and i just got the idea for my most niche porn story yet, not inbterms of kink but due to sheer dissonance between the characters and the plot structure. its like a combo of extremely broey dudes rock shock jocky type porn but specifically for bisexual men, house of leaves type metanarrative stuff, and a creepypasta/nosleep/unfiction type story about a fake tv show lmao.

like the story format is a mysteriously annotated copy of what appears to be a transcript of an unaired version of an episode in a sexual prank show starring a gang of bros who dress like its the late 2000s/early 2010s living in what they call like the "prank house" or something. and they like construct these elaborate hidden camera prank scenarios with the help of someone in the persons life except the pranks are all super sexual. and the annotations are like from someone trying to solve a mystery.

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me: bro you cannot be coming up with aus for your own story like you havent even finished it

also me: fantasy setting ttdl where they live in a village and alex is trying to summon an eldritch ocean monster/god/demon thing to kill desmond because the overall dynamic is the same but none of them have school and run around and do chores and shit and jamie accidentally interrupts and ends up getting eldritch sea god powers and grows gills and sharp teeth and a second eyelid and shit and

other me: hi i'm a third you while that guy was talking i came up with another one which is an au based on disney channel original movie the thirteenth year but the age is like 18 instead of 13 because thirteen is way too young and if they're gonna make me nail down a specific age it may as well be the most legal one but yeah jamie is the star swimmer (woahg they're making me specify a sport too this movies fucked up) who starts turning into a mermaid and alex is the nerd who knows about ocean stuff who helps him out in exchange for swimming lessons and marcia is the girl who in the movie gives the main character a framed picture of her own face as a birthday present but in this one they're not even dating they have the exact same dynamic as in canon because she would also do that in canon lmao.

also me: ...bro you really cut me off there. like i get the vision this is beautiful but i had like an actual story concept. there was vibes and a setting and a mood and shit. and now i jut wanna combine it with that somehow instead. shit.

me: hey its me the first one 100% come around now this rules okay what if jamie interrupting gives the sea monster alex summoned and now its just a normal sea monster hes trying to bind to will to kill desmond but it gets the chance to break free from his binding cause the chanting gets interrupted and then jamie jumps in to save him and hes like just had some weird shit happen but this is the first time he does something like undeniably impossible and magical and the monster seeing him with his teeth already sharper and his eyes shining like a creature in the night gets recognizes its more terrifying kin and flees back to the depths.

other me: then jamie makes alex help him figure out whats going on with his knowledge of forbidden texts and stolen grimoires and protects him from the other bullies in exchange. and like the elder god in his blood is like recognizing this exchange as a cultist/warlock situation and giving his sense of ownership over alex that internal justification he needs psychologically that in canon is the deal and the fact that alex agreed to it.

also me: ooh, so you're saying this version of alex, who's already been pushed even further cause he was desperate enough to be trying to kill desmond via a method that could be just as fatal to him if he failed, is both even more grateful to jamie because he literally saved his life and from the even worse desperation, but also the sexual nature of the relationship and the amount of control jamie asserts over him is even less consensual and confusing >:3

me: i just remembered this au is based on a disney movie how did it get darker than canon instead of less lmaao

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At some boring party for nobles and I notice a cute tiny butler up on the tables. He’s just a liiiiittle too close to the edge, close enough that I can “accidentally” bump into it and hold my glass at juuuuust the right angle that he plops directly into it.

All the other human nobility takes notice. All eyes on him and he goes bright red-of course he does. And now he’s trapped, soaked, humiliated. Tiny servants were supposed to be quiet and unnoticeable, after all, and now he’s the source of entertainment for the entire party.

I drink from the glass anyways, everyone guffawing and laughing- and meanwhile the rest of the tiny servants in the room watch in fear as he slides down, pressed against my face by the force of gravity. What are they going to do? Risk punishment for interfering? He’s my toy now, in that moment. Completely and utterly at my mercy. All because he was a little too close to the edge of a table and I felt like fucking with him.

Letting him sit there, for a moment, his soaked clothes sticking to my skin. Not sure how to react that wouldn’t humiliate him further so he just lies flat, his heart beating out of his chest.

Eventually letting him go after we’ve had our laughs but now he’s on edge all the time. Any time he sees me walking towards him in the hall he gets behind another tiny nearby.

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“These are the eyes of a Strawberry Conch (Conomurex luhuanus). They inhabit the shallow tropical waters of the Great Barrier Reef and feed on algae and detritus.” © Lawrence Scheele

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idk about you all but the horrors at the lowest depths of the ocean are completely within my comprehension. it's just some weird fish with sharp teeth or like, a big squid or whatever. maybe some huge sea bug. why is this so existentially terrifying to you all

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me months ago coming up with backstory stuff: i have to save this until the most dramatic possible moment.

me now: what if i just casually open the next chapter with it like its not a big deal and then maybe not even address it until way later still

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one of my favourite things is when a character meets a couple and goes "wow, what a fucked up age difference!" and then they're either the exact same age or the small cute one is actually older

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high rn so idk if ill agree with myself tomorrow but i think desmonds one of those guys who says hes not gay for watching femboy porn but gets annoyed when the femboy looks too much like a girl. and also he doesn't watch porn with women in it.

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https://archiveofourown.org/works/66719476

idk why tumblr refuses to let me embed links properly these days, it's fucked up.

the good news is there's a new That's the Deal Loser part out, it's called Panic Switch after the Silversun Pickups song which I'm realizing just now I forgot to mention in the author's note but it doesn't super matter just a missed opportunity to tell people to listen to a song I like lol. And in case there wasn't enough on-screen bullying the whole beginning is a fucked up flashback to Alex geting his shit kicked in by Desmond and then drinking his piss. Things get better, though he has a hard time believing it.

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That's the Deal, Loser Rec List

A lot of people mentioned not being able to find other stuff like ttdl in their (super wonderful and appreciated) comments, so I asked if people would want a list of the stuff that inspired it. Enough people said yes for me to put in the work. I might come back and add more later if I'm reminded of other stuff, especially manga and comics I'm not as good at saving the ones I really like as I am with written stuff. If you come across this randomly, these are primarily bully x victim fics, heavy noncon warning for almost all of them. I mostly haven't bothered warning specifically about other things under the assumption that they'll be tagged on the fic itself but I haven't double checked the tags for every single fic so, keep yourself safe.

This first bullet point is a memorial to pivotal piece of inspiration that I learned was sadly deleted while making this list. Bathroom Stall, I won't shout out your author since I assume they no longer want to be associated with you, but this story wouldn't exist without you.

The Bully Wins - Multi chapter, porn and plot. one of the biggest inspirations, bully takes a depressed kid and makes him his pet + complicated friendship dynamics and social drama. sadly likely to remain unfinished given how long its been since the last update, but worth reading whats there anyway imo. Only written work on this list not on Ao3

The Bully - Two single chapter works, 9k and 4k respectively, first one porn and plot second one just plot. Well, okay actually basically no plot, but a lot of character stuff. Technically it's an x reader fic, but as someone who has a hard time grasping the core appeal of trying to project myself onto a character written by someone who doesn't even know me, it works totally fine as a second-person POV story about a character who's not the reader also lmao.

My Bully Boyfriend - Two works, one 3k single chapter and one 22k multi-chapter, first one mostly porn second one porn then a lot of plot, though still updating regularly enough I believe in their promise of more smut upcoming. One of the only M/F bully stories I've read where I actually like the core dynamic and characters lmao. Also one of very few pieces of porn with a trans girl in it I've found that didn't feel like the fact she was trans was intended as pure fetish. Or, not very few, but they're enough of a minority that I always feel like I'm gambling when I see the trans girl tag on a story and this one felt like winning big, Sophie is delightful.

Lurks' Bullying Tales: Episode 1 - Single chapter, 11k, porn and plot. This ones got a lot of stuff going on but the core dynamic of the bully who finds their fave loser in a tough situation and forcibly adopts/fucks them is a very strong point of inspiration for ttdl. This is clearly a world and characters that author knows a lot about, and in my opinion it does a pretty decent job showing enough about it to get the audience immersed without just info dumping. But if you're not into magical cyberpunk furries then it might not be for you. Also while TTDL is about teens, I don't ever give explicit ages, and this one does start to creep lower than I'm generally comfortable with, so if the fact that its all with people around the same age and has a very cartoony tone isn't enough to edge it into acceptability for you the way it is for me then that's extremely fair.

Degrees of Lewdity - Video game. Mostly text-based RPG with some visual aspects such as character creation/dress up stuff. Sandboxy open world game that mostly isn't that similar, but I felt the need to include it because the character Whitney, who's one of the love interests before and arguably after you start dating them. Gender, sexuality, etc. are all up to the player. One of the things that originally got me to come up with Jamie and Alex is I was thinking of scenarios between Whitney and my player character and was like 'this is getting out of character, I should make some new guys that fit this dynamic even though it's not actually that much different'. This mentality is probably why I have like five sets of bully/victim ocs fucking around in my head lmao.

New Friends - One chapter, 5k, mix of plot and porn. A fanfic of the above game between Whitney and one of the other love interests, Kylar. A good showcase of all of Whitney's worst traits (like, none of this is out of character but he also has some more positive traits lmao), and Kylar is very Alex-coded in this fic. Also sort of in the game but the fact that they're a yandere obsessed with the player character is so non-Alex-coded that its more obscured.

incompatibility - M/F, not quite a bully/victim fic but has a lot of the same dynamics as established relationships formed from a bully/victim pairing tend to have. While there are sex scenes, and some of them are quite hot, calling this erotica doesn't feel quite right. Should note that this is more realistic than a lot of these in a number of ways, and the catharsis feels more like a drama or a tragedy than a fantasy that gets dark sometimes. Like Wren, the equivalent to the bullying victim in most of these, straight up does not enjoy sex.

Mike & Erik - Killer Boyfriends - Two insanely long multi-chapter fics the first of which is completed and the second of which is ongoing. So this one's about serial killers. Not like 'they do some murders but they're all justified', Mike and Erik are genuinely really fucked up people. I love them and I want them to be happy lmao. The dynamics not quite the same, honestly its closer to like if Jamie wasn't popular and he and Desmond ended up hooking up. A comparison I feel bad for making even though Erik is literally a serial killer but I have yet to give Desmond a single redeeming quality lmao. Has the same type of large cast with complex social dynamics that I've been doing with TTDL though, and honestly I just feel like the vibes are similar lol.

fucked.exe - Multi-chapter ongoing, mix of porn and plot. Almost didn't include this one because it's by me but also if you like the other story I wrote you'll probably like this one too because it's by me lmao. The dynamic is flipped in that the dom is the nerd and the sub is the bully, but there's a lot of parallels that are embarrassing to me because I feel like I'm telling on myself but are probably fine. So like quiet grumpy sub x loud rambly dom, huge size, bully head over heels down so bad for the victim and the victim being confused and disbelieving and making fun of the bully for it, etc.

Emetophiliac - This ones gross! I like it but def not for everyone as I think you can guess just from the name lmao. Mostly smut. More of a one-off encounter than a relationship (though one can imagine it turning into more if like me you're kind of fucked up and insane) but what reminds me of TTDL in it is the way the bully is so into this thing about the victim that he finds really gross and upsetting and shameful, and how weird and out of nowhere his advances feel to the victim.

A Sadistic Bully and his Favourite Toy - Another gross one lol. Unfinished and likely to remain so given the last update time. It's pretty fun because the victim is into being bullied and humiliated right from the start and is mostly scared that about the bully finding out about that. But then it turns out the bully is also into it in a sex way and it becomes like a roleplay that they're carrying out publicly and actively hiding the fact that its consensual which I've always thought was a fun concept.

Magic & Boys - I'm gonna be really honest and kind of mean this one's straight up not that well written, plus its barely started and unlikely to ever be finished, plus the age gap is way bigger than I usually prefer with younger characters. But the bully character is really really hot to me, so I keep re-reading it anyways lmao.

The Werewolf's Bitch - Single chapter porn, x reader but detailed enough to read as a second person story about a character who isn't you like with The Bully. The victim does not come around within the course of this fic, they're basically just minding their own business then they get kidnapped by their bully from high school who doesn't bother explaining anything and is a werewolf now. The line "I'm your boyfriend and you're my property" or something like that is said and it's very hot to me especially because he doesn't bother to explain anything before then about why he's kidnapping them and the victim up until that point has no idea they're at all interested in them.

What Could Be Worse Than a Punch? - This is mostly your pretty classic 'sexual assault as a form of bullying' rather than the more complex dubcon stuff happening in TTDL, but the thing that really does it for me is that afterwards the victim asks "Why would you even do that?" and for the first time in the whole thing the bully is like caught off guard and is just kind of awkwardly like "I don't know, I just felt like it" and that's the shit I go insane for, I would read like eighty chapters of these two based mostly on that last little bit at the end.

okay i got all the like plot-centric ones with character dynamics and parallels I wanted to explain done already and I don't want to write more blurbs for the remaining smutty things that already have ao3 descriptions so i'm just gonna link the rest without comment. this isn't necessarily a sign that they're in anyway more or less important than the other mostly porn pieces I'm just tired and I've been procrastinating on finishing this for awhile lmao

Full-Body Workout

Damen & Jon

Locker Room Bully

What's Done is Done

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starting a collection

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she was ethically opposed to the practice of assimilation into the hive mind but her dick was a fork and by g-d that goo girl pussy was starting to look like a toaster