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Class being online this week means I could draw Payneland while listening to the professor and you better believe I took the opportunity to do just that xD
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» Payneland episode 8 hug reversed ❤️💙 requested by @manicpixiedreamedwins
+ a bonus self-indulgent one for me ✨
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An anonymous donor for #thegoodwedo fundraiser requested a payneland hug. Happy to oblige 💜. Thank you so much for participating!!
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The second kiss is always better.
And the third.. and the fourth...
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Les étreintes dans la série sont tellement emplies de douceur et d’affection…j’avais envie de reproduire ce sentiment mais en rajoutant une pointe de vulnérabilité.
Apres tout ce qui leur sont arrivé, j’imagine qu’il y’a encore de quoi être un peu émotif quand la pression monte.
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So I’m constantly thinking about Charles and how he could eventually meet Edwin with his feelings.
Here’s something I realized: Charles, despite constantly talking about things he miss, things he wants, he actually has a complicated relationship with desire as a concept.
How I would put it is by taking Supernatural as an example. There’s an episode in Season 5 where the boys meet Famine, a horseman of the apocalypse. However, Dean is not at all affected by him. It’s because due to being the older brother, and a Hunter, Dean was never allowed to consider acting on or even having desire for anything.
You can see where I’m going with this. Charles, like Dean, doesn’t actually believe he should want anything, due to “not being good enough”.
This is something actually touched on subtly in the show through the acting. When Niko says, “I know what it’s like to want something you can’t have.” Edwin directly looks at The Cat King’s bracelet, while Charles stares off into space. When Tragic Mick describes Angie’s light as enforcing a sense of yearning, Edwin looks at Charles, while again, Charles looks off blankly (can’t access screenshots right now). Edwin knows what he wants but is scared of it, while Charles doesn’t know what he wants because he can’t allow himself to consider it. This gives an entirely new meaning to Charles’ hatred of the Cat King. A supernatural entity who describes his kingdom as being about “want and pleasure”. Thomas is the encapsulation of everything Charles was never allowed to have. Charles chases after things that he knows he can’t have, romancing a living girl despite knowing she will eventually leave. Charles can’t consider returning Edwin’s feelings because that would mean he’s been running away from what’s been in front of him the whole time. That what he wanted was always there, at his lowest point, when he thought he deserved it least.
Returning Edwin’s feelings means he was already enough. And Charles can’t imagine that yet.
While I would obviously adore an interaction between Charles and Desire of The Endless, ultimately I don’t think it would do anything. Like Dean, Charles might be completely unaffected by them because he’s spent most of his existence building walls around his desires. Edwin was completely blindsided by Thomas because he never even considered having to think about Desire due to having no attraction to women and that being the dominant narrative of his time. Charles pursues Crystal because he still wants to feel like he has a chance at “normal life” (which as I said is self-punishment by throwing himself at something he knows he can’t have). To accept that he’s in love with Edwin would mean no longer pursuing a living person. Edwin would be it for him, which he kind of already gets but it hasn’t fully sunk in yet. Just like his death
There's also this exchange that drives me nuts:
"You gave up tranquil eternity…for your friend?" "Does that sound like someone who belongs in Hell?"
THIS. MAKES. ME. INSANE. Because Charles, like he always does when confronted with his own wants, completely avoids it. He doesn't respond to The Night Nurse's obvious confusion as to why he ran from Death, and instead turns the conversation back to Edwin. He makes it all about what Edwin deserves, not what Charles saw in Edwin that led him to make that choice. You could say this is practical as time is of the essence, but I think that's the point. Charles throws away the chance to explain his viewpoint on their first meeting, the consequences of his choice to run from Death with a boy he just met and knew for a few hours, and instead remains single-minded on Edwin's safety. Like when Edwin reasonably questioned, "Why are you getting angry?" when he began freaking out over Thomas getting close to Edwin, he says nothing.
There's just so much happening in that head that I can't stop thinking about.
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I dont think the starfishes are a giveaway that payneland was supposed to be cannon. They show up in ep4 when the colors are all messed up - Charles's red is getting darker and darker, Niko wears red and Crystal wears blue (her vest)
And the observation about them being in love is made by Niko who is shown in the very next episode to be really bad at matchmaking.
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The Cat King sabotaging himself so hard by shape-shifting into Charles and making Edwin realize he's into him, and then (allegedly) still getting Edwin to fuck him in s2 is the boyfailure to boyboss pipeline of the ages
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i love how cool charles thinks he is, like, you can feel it in the way he smirks; he thinks he's awesome (and he's right)
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Here's the basic break down for the different commission options detailed in the previous post.

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Dead Boy Detectives (2024) 1.01 | "The Case of Crystal Palace"
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Dead Boy Detectives has won the Rotten Tomatoes Golden Tomato Award for Best Fantasy Series of 2024! ✨🎉🎈

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CHARLES ROWLAND and EDWIN PAYNE Dead Boy Detectives (2024) Season 01, Episode 02
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