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Chapter title: The Demand For Helen Chapter: 5/7 Ships: Apollo/Kassandra, Helen/Paris, Helen/Menelaos, Kassandra & Helenos (and others, more minor)

Summary: If on the one hand you are willing, I request; while if you are not willing, I demand back.

Paris, trying to figure out how to deal with the embassy, chooses his shield - and also his weapon. When Menelaos and Odysseus come before the King of Troy and some of its people, charges are brought, and parried.

But though Helen and Paris in Troy is the core of why the Achaeans are now on Troy's shores, it's not the only thing the Trojans will consider when deciding how to meet Menelaos' demands.

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about that ship, I never understood why people who like it get so angry when others treat it as something negative and start complaining about how the ship is unfairly treated and misunderstood. Like, it's kind of obvious why people see it negatively!! If you like it that's fine! But c'mon don't act like it's weird most people don't like

Basically, yeah.

Like, to talk about Helen/Paris - I am not going to be going about complaining here on tumblr about those people who see it negatively (I will privately lol but that's another matter). There's no point! I know exactly why it can be interpreted negatively! And, like - that's others prerogative if they do, as I said! I don't agree, but I'm mostly just going to talk about the various source texts and why/how I go with the interpretation that I do. It's not as if I don't have plenty to lean on for such an interpretation.

(I just do not agree with the people who insist as if it's somehow obvious and that the only possible take is that Helen/Paris was negative/non-con from the start and always. But whatever.)

And for the same reason I'm not going to (... well, usually) go about complaining about the shippers of that ship, merely talk about (if it comes up, I don't exactly touch on those characters often/at all, especially not together) the characters and the texts - and yeah it'd be negatively because, well. It's obvious why, like you say, anon.

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This is supposed to be children of Hero's who were killed by their parents, chilling in a field. Hopefully having a much peaceful afterlife compared to their lives.

Hippolytus- son of Theseus and the Amazon Hippolyte - who was killed by Poseidon as a wish from Theseus after being falsely blamed for Phaedra (Theseus's wife) suicide.

Iphigenia- daughter of Agamemnon and Clytemnestra - who was killed in a sacrifice to Artemis in order to sail to Troy.

and Medea's and Jason's sons- who were killed by Medea for revenge against Jason, and after researching were not able to find definitive names for them in the play which is tragic. But I haven't read the play so I could be wrong.

Feel free to correct me if I got any information wrong :).

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Book 3 of the Iliad. Menelaus one leather strap away from ending the war until Aphrodite saves Paris’s neck.

I’m using this project to try different things artistically. I’m trying different brushes and trying to make myself draw more action oriented poses.

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"On mainland Greece, the hero Arkas, eponymous ancestor of the Arkadians, is supposed to have married a nymph; Charon is again the earliest source for this tale. When hunting one day, Arkas came upon a hamadryad’s oak in danger of perishing, about to be swept away by a snow-swollen stream. Arkas rerouted the stream and steadied the tree’s foundation, and “the nymph, whose name according to Eumelus was Chrysopeleia, mated with him and bore Elatos and Aphidamas, from whom all the Arkadians are descended.” Arkas’ marriage to the nymph Chrysopeleia is also ascribed to the early epic poet Eumelus by Apollodorus, while Pausanias specifies that Arkas’ wife was a dryad nymph, whom he calls Erato. He further describes a sanctuary of Pan in Arkadia where “in older days this god used to give oracles through the lips of the nymph Erato, the same Erato who married Arkas son of Kallisto” (4.4.3) Presumably, the prophetic nymph aided Arkas in his capacity as king."

~ Greek Nymphs: Myths, Cult, Lore by Jennifer Larson.

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And since I'm already bitching and keep thinking about this (don't click on the read more if you don't want combative shipping opinion, as much as I try to keep from that shit)

I don't really care if people don't like Helen/Parisor don't like Paris; their prerogative, we all like the ships and characters we like, whatever.

But when I've seen a number of people go out of their way to interpret Helen and Paris' relationship, which is ambiguous about Helen's actions in the beginning/how she left RIGHT THERE IN THE ILIAD and there are many versions where she clearly (is blamed for) left of her own desire, as negatively as possible with non-con from the very beginning to the end, Helen never having any REAL desire for him or liking him...

And then ship/think of Agamemnon/Kassandra as positive and/or something that could develop into something positive?

Just pisses me off.

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Honestly fucking upsets me every time I see art of Perseus killed (by Andromeda or Medusa).

He doesn't deserve that!

AND NEITHER DOES DANAE.

Like fuck all the way off and I won't trust or like anyone who thinks this is a good or interesting take or a better way for the story to go. I hope we're going to acknowledge that Danae will now be stuck in an unwanted marriage and sexually assaulted for as long as Polydectes is interested in doing that AND she's lost her son. :)

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Like, Achilles is a man of his time and culture (and participates willingly/with intent).

That is why he goes to Troy at all! That is why he's so angry when Briseis is taken!

That is why he doesn't leave.

Every time I see something that's like "Achilles really just wanted to go home 🥺" it just makes me laugh.

No he didn't.

He had ~two weeks to go home before Patroklos died!

If he actually valued what he says he values in the embassy above and beyond getting restitution, he would already have gone home. (Or at least do what he said he would and be ready/already have left during the next day. Which, again, he didn't!)

Given his actions and what he says and does both before and after the embassy (like charging Patroklos with not going too far because it will steal (more) of his fame and honour!), even if he does value what he says he does in the embassy... it's not above what he has stated he wanted to his mother.

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Every time I see something that's like "Achilles really just wanted to go home 🥺" it just makes me laugh.

No he didn't.

He had ~two weeks to go home before Patroklos died!

If he actually valued what he says he values in the embassy above and beyond getting restitution, he would already have gone home. (Or at least do what he said he would and be ready/already have left during the next day. Which, again, he didn't!)

Given his actions and what he says and does both before and after the embassy (like charging Patroklos with not going too far because it will steal (more) of his fame and honour!), even if he does value what he says he does in the embassy... it's not above what he has stated he wanted to his mother.

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FRIEND ✨😊✨

💞c:

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The final entry in my first Greek mythology series, Hestia!

After a year and a half I am finally done with this series!! Don’t worry, I fully intend to draw more Greek myth characters in the future, I just want to take a little break after drawing the main Olympians.

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Chapter title: The Demand For Helen Chapter: 5/7 Ships: Apollo/Kassandra, Helen/Paris, Helen/Menelaos, Kassandra & Helenos (and others, more minor)

Summary: If on the one hand you are willing, I request; while if you are not willing, I demand back.

Paris, trying to figure out how to deal with the embassy, chooses his shield - and also his weapon. When Menelaos and Odysseus come before the King of Troy and some of its people, charges are brought, and parried.

But though Helen and Paris in Troy is the core of why the Achaeans are now on Troy's shores, it's not the only thing the Trojans will consider when deciding how to meet Menelaos' demands.

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Free to read for #LesbianVisibilityDay

#wlw fantasy of the #Argonautica illustrated with a beautiful, sexy comic by @TheLastBacchae!

Medea falls for her fellow female argonaut Atalante...

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I think, if I had, or would have, leaned more into a(n even) more contentious relationship between Zeus and Hera in my ficverse than I did, this is what I'd do:

-Hera wants to be (Zeus') queen, and she does desire Zeus but she doesn't much like him. Is certainly not in love with him (for a version like this, might acknowledge more the physical abuse Zeus clearly at least threatens in the Iliad, might not - I toned it down for my ficverse because I can't deal with that, even in Zeus and Hera's contentious relationship). -Hera as Typhon's mother in this, though then explicitly with that she goes to Zeus after to reveal what she has done, preparing him somewhat (regardless of when Typhon would attack). -She does not actually want to overthrow him, even as she, multiple times, goes through the motions of doing so. And means every single of those attempts as attempts. The threat of overthrowing him is the point, to show that Zeus is not safe even as they both are the "best" as could be had in leaders of the Olympian sphere. Because if she overthrows him she cannot actually guarantee she will remain in her position of power, and that other people that she does care about, won't be badly treated by the successor.

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thats HIS boyfriend btw

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On either side [sc. of the door] there were golden and silver dogs, immortal and unaging forever, which Hephaestus had fashioned with cunning skill to protect the home of Alcinous the great-hearted. (Od. 7.91-94)

Eustathius goes on to suggest that the adjectives 'undying' and 'un-aging' refer not literally to biological life, but rather to the durability of the rust-proof metals from which they were fashioned, and that the dogs were alleged to be the work of Hephaestus solely on account of their excellent workmanship. He does, however, imply that he knows of other testimonia to these hounds when he refers to a certain "silly story" that they were a present from Hera to Poseidon for his help in some attack against Zeus in the Iliad (probably that described at 1.396-406), and that Poseidon gave them in turn to Alcinous. - Hephaestus the Magician and Near Eastern Parallels for Alcinous' Watchdogs by Christopher A. Faraone

Love the idea that after their failed coup against Zeus, Hera is just like: "Oh well, we'll get 'em next time, here are some dope magical robot dogs my son made, just a little something to express my appreciation for helping me try and upturn the order of the cosmos, thanks bro!"

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Queen of the Dead part 2, 28

This page took me such a long time. Drawing smut is hard. Unfortunately, the next page will probably also take me quite long, since my friend Patrik comes here tomorrow and stays for a week (which is nice but means less time to focus on my comic).